Re: Public Review Issue 232 Proposed Update UAX #9, Unicode Bidirectional Algorithm (Copy of email sent to the list; also posted by me to unicode feedback/public review issue-- but this has not yet po

2013-02-03 Thread Julian Bradfield
On 2013-02-02, Stephan Stiller stephan.stil...@gmail.com wrote: And sometimes there is no absorption but simply a hard constraint against semantic cooccurrence [sic about oo, which is really the All of which may be ignored by people with mathematical or programming training! One of the

Re: Public Review Issue 232 Proposed Update UAX #9, Unicode Bidirectional Algorithm (Copy of email sent to the list; also posted by me to unicode feedback/public review issue-- but this has not yet po

2013-02-03 Thread Stephan Stiller
(First a correction: By the parentheses absorbing commas I really meant that they /include/ them. The verb absorb was a poor word choice given that I used it a bit differently elsewhere in that same email.) All of which may be ignored by people with mathematical or programming training! One

Re: Public Review Issue 232 Proposed Update UAX #9, Unicode Bidirectional Algorithm (Copy of email sent to the list; also posted by me to unicode feedback/public review issue-- but this has not yet po

2013-02-02 Thread Stephan Stiller
These sorts of absorption rules are discussed in great detail in Geoffrey Nunberg's The Linguistics of Punctuation, which I highly recommend for anyone interested in this and related issues. And sometimes there is no absorption but simply a hard constraint against semantic

Re: Public Review Issue 232 Proposed Update UAX #9, Unicode Bidirectional Algorithm (Copy of email sent to the list; also posted by me to unicode feedback/public review issue-- but this has not yet po

2013-01-31 Thread John D. Burger
Stephan Stiller wrote: I sometimes have a closing dash and sometimes not And let's not forget that one often has what is semantically a pair of parenthetical dashes, either the opening or the closing component of which is eaten up by the beginning or the end of the sentence, resp. These

Re: Public Review Issue 232 Proposed Update UAX #9, Unicode Bidirectional Algorithm (Copy of email sent to the list; also posted by me to unicode feedback/public review issue-- but this has not yet po

2013-01-29 Thread Stephan Stiller
I don't think dashes should be mirrored at all however. (Many of my dashes -- for example these -- are quite symmetrical; but others are not -- I sometimes have a closing dash and sometimes not; but Emily Dickinson is really the expert on the use of the dash:

Re: Public Review Issue 232 Proposed Update UAX #9, Unicode Bidirectional Algorithm (Copy of email sent to the list; also posted by me to unicode feedback/public review issue-- but this has not yet po

2013-01-29 Thread Stephan Stiller
I sometimes have a closing dash and sometimes not /And/ let's not forget that one often has what is semantically a pair of parenthetical dashes, either the opening or the closing component of which is eaten up by the beginning or the end of the sentence, resp. These punctuation rules are

RE: Public Review Issue 232 Proposed Update UAX #9, Unicode Bidirectional Algorithm (Copy of email sent to the list; also posted by me to unicode feedback/public review issue-- but this has not yet po

2013-01-24 Thread CE Whitehead

Re: Public Review Issue 232 Proposed Update UAX #9, Unicode Bidirectional Algorithm (Copy of email sent to the list; also posted by me to unicode feedback/public review issue-- but this has not yet po

2013-01-24 Thread Philippe Verdy
Letter-like mathematical symbols are those like Product (Greek capital Pi), Sum (Greek capital Sigma). Mirroring them by default would have strange effects, even if they may be mirrored in formulas. Lower-than and Higher-than symbols are not letter-like and are safe to mirror, they behave like