Re: Variation Selection (Was Re: Unicode 3.2: BETA files updated)

2002-01-28 Thread Asmus Freytag
At 12:43 PM 1/27/02 -0800, Mark Davis \(jtcsv\) wrote: It sounds like what you are saying, in concrete terms, is that Font #6 at the bottom of: http://www.macchiato.com/utc/variation_selection/variation_selection_f ollowup.htm is conformant. If that is so, then we would have to have an

Re: Variation Selection (Was Re: Unicode 3.2: BETA files updated)

2002-01-27 Thread Asmus Freytag
At 12:33 AM 1/27/02 -0800, Mark Davis \(jtcsv\) wrote: I find it fairly pointless to say that a font supports the variation selection sequence U+03B8, U+FE00 if it does not provide a visual distinction from U+03B8; and such a distinction should be based on the entry description. Thus, of the

Re: Variation Selection (Was Re: Unicode 3.2: BETA files updated)

2002-01-27 Thread Mark Davis \(jtcsv\)
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Re: Variation Selection (Was Re: Unicode 3.2: BETA files updated)

2002-01-27 Thread Mark Davis \(jtcsv\)
(Was Re: Unicode 3.2: BETA files updated) At 12:33 AM 1/27/02 -0800, Mark Davis \(jtcsv\) wrote: I find it fairly pointless to say that a font supports the variation selection sequence U+03B8, U+FE00 if it does not provide a visual distinction from U+03B8; and such a distinction should be based

RE: Unicode 3.2: BETA files updated

2002-01-26 Thread Michael Everson
At 20:55 -0800 2002-01-25, John Hudson wrote: At 13:48 1/25/2002, Julie Allen wrote: We're estimating that 4.0 will be roughly 1500 pages, which the publisher says is not a problem for one volume. Now whether you can carry it with one hand is a different question. :-) Please try to ensure a

Re: Unicode 3.2: BETA files updated

2002-01-25 Thread David Hopwood
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Kenneth Whistler wrote: And StandardizedVariants.html has been updated again, with more of the missing glyphs provided. I can't see any difference between plain U+2278 (either in the draft code chart or StandardizedVariants.html) and U+2278 with VS1. Is

Re: Unicode 3.2: BETA files updated

2002-01-25 Thread Asmus Freytag
At 06:29 AM 1/24/02 +, David Hopwood wrote: Kenneth Whistler wrote: And StandardizedVariants.html has been updated again, with more of the missing glyphs provided. I can't see any difference between plain U+2278 (either in the draft code chart or StandardizedVariants.html) and U+2278

RE: Unicode 3.2: BETA files updated

2002-01-25 Thread Suzanne M. Topping
At 06:29 AM 1/24/02 +, David Hopwood wrote: Kenneth Whistler wrote: And StandardizedVariants.html has been updated again, with more of the missing glyphs provided. Can anyone send me the URL for this chart? I can't seem to find it.

Re: Unicode 3.2: BETA files updated

2002-01-25 Thread John Cowan
Asmus Freytag scripsit: While VARIATION SELECTOR is the formal name of the character (and therefore fixed), referring to the selected thing as a 'variation' sounds really odd, that's why the more common term 'variant' is used all over the place. Perhaps we ought to make them formally

RE: Unicode 3.2: BETA files updated

2002-01-25 Thread Julie Allen
John Hudson asked, As Unicode continues to grow, I wonder if we can expect another book-- or multiple volumes -- at some stage, or if the standard will become a purely electronic document? Has any decision been taken about this? Speaking in my official capacity as editor, the answer is yes,

RE: Unicode 3.2: BETA files updated

2002-01-25 Thread Kenneth Whistler
Julie said: As to the form and timing of 5.0, that would be pure speculation at this point. Someone else on the committee might be willing to speculate, but I won't! Ummm... Unicode 5.0 will be published on December 22, 2007, in DVD3 holographic format, complete with a remastered Unicode

Re: Unicode 3.2: BETA files updated

2002-01-25 Thread David Starner
On Fri, Jan 25, 2002 at 11:31:19AM -0800, Julie Allen wrote: Speaking in my official capacity as editor, the answer is yes, you can expect another book. The editorial committee is already hard at work on 4.0, which we expect to publish as one volume. So are you worried about 4.0 being 2,000

Re: RE: Unicode 3.2: BETA files updated

2002-01-25 Thread Rick McGowan
Ken let the cat out of the bag: Unicode 5.0 will be published on December 22, 2007... complete with a remastered Unicode hymn... It's true. We've already booked an Abbey Road studio for five days in March 2007, and we've signed 75 of the hottest young voices in the world to be in the

RE: Unicode 3.2: BETA files updated

2002-01-25 Thread Asmus Freytag
At 11:31 AM 1/25/02 -0800, Julie Allen wrote: John Hudson asked, As Unicode continues to grow, I wonder if we can expect another book-- or multiple volumes -- at some stage, or if the standard will become a purely electronic document? Has any decision been taken about this? There are

RE: Unicode 3.2: BETA files updated

2002-01-25 Thread Julie Allen
On Fri, Jan 25, 2002 at 11:31:19AM -0800, Julie Allen wrote: Speaking in my official capacity as editor, the answer is yes, you can expect another book. The editorial committee is already hard at work on 4.0, which we expect to publish as one volume. So are you worried about 4.0 being

Carrying it around [was RE: Unicode 3.2: BETA files updated]

2002-01-25 Thread Mark Leisher
Julie We're estimating that 4.0 will be roughly 1500 pages, which the Julie publisher says is not a problem for one volume. Now whether you can Julie carry it with one hand is a different question. :-) We Unicode accolytes have a rule that requires using both hands when carrying the

Re: Unicode 3.2: BETA files updated

2002-01-25 Thread David Hopwood
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Asmus Freytag wrote: At 06:29 AM 1/24/02 +, David Hopwood wrote: Kenneth Whistler wrote: And StandardizedVariants.html has been updated again, with more of the missing glyphs provided. I can't see any difference between plain U+2278 (either in

RE: Unicode 3.2: BETA files updated

2002-01-25 Thread John Hudson
At 13:48 1/25/2002, Julie Allen wrote: We're estimating that 4.0 will be roughly 1500 pages, which the publisher says is not a problem for one volume. Now whether you can carry it with one hand is a different question. :-) Please try to ensure a sturdy binding. The binding of 3.0 is a little

Re: Unicode 3.2: BETA files updated

2002-01-25 Thread Asmus Freytag
At 10:58 PM 1/24/02 +, David Hopwood wrote: One possibility is to make VS1 specify what is now the reference glyph, and VS2 specify the alternate glyph. Unmarked would mean either. Boy, great minds do think alike. I proposed that in a paper to the UTC last year. ;-) You realize that this

Re: Unicode 3.2: BETA files updated

2002-01-24 Thread John Hudson
As Unicode continues to grow, I wonder if we can expect another book-- or multiple volumes -- at some stage, or if the standard will become a purely electronic document? Has any decision been taken about this? John Hudson Tiro Typeworks www.tiro.com Vancouver, BC [EMAIL