Ar 02:04 -0800 2000-06-16, scríobh [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On such documents (driving licenses, passports, etc.), the matter is
normally settled solomonically by using all capitals.
BTW, I see from my passport that this does not fix all problems anyway: the
Irish Gaelic version of "REPUBLIC OF
;Irish
Gaelic".
Ní hea, a Shéamais.
"Gaeilge na hÉireann" is Irish Gaelic
"Gàidhlig na h-Alba" is Scottish Gaelic
"Gaelg Vanninn" is Manx Gaelic.
The first and third of these are often called just Irish and Manx, but it
is certainly not incorrect to use the term "Ir
Please don't send out attachments to the whole list.
ME
Ar 09:57 -0800 2000-06-26, scríobh Magda Danish (Unicode):
-Original Message-
From: Marvin Bertha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2000 3:24 PM
To: Magda Danish (Unicode)
Subject: CJK Width problem [URGENT]
list. Put the files on
your site and post the URL.
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On 06:30 -0800 2000-06-27, 11-Digit Boy wrote:
Please show me the forms. I might want to add a few letters myself.
Oh, come now, 11-Digit Boy. The requisite proposal summary forms are easily
found on the Unicode site. Visit the transparently-named
http://www.unicode.org/pending/proposals.html
well.)
Michael Everson
Language Tag Reviewer, RFC 1766
Ar 08:05 -0800 2000-06-29, scríobh John Cowan:
Plane 14 was a prophylactic spell.
"Agh burzum-ishi krimpatul"?
Michael Everson
to fill it from the
bottom up or the top down ;-)
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...
Recte « pour écritures et symboles ».
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in French, you shouldn't
translate the other three plane acronyms. As far as JUC, I know I have seen
this in some places.
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e words are the same. Maybe it's folk etymology, but I
heard the critter was known as "the French animal" hence its name.
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Ar 07:53 -0800 2000-07-11, scríobh John H. Jenkins:
At the same time, it would be nice to have a Unicodally correct way
of referring to planes 1 and 2, since there is an important boundary
between them.
Just use the acronyms BMP, SMP, and SIP.
Michael Everson ** Everson Gunn Teoranta
Ar 15:30 -0800 2000-07-11, scríobh Asmus Freytag:
At 01:25 PM 7/11/00 -0800, Leon Spencer wrote:
Has ISO addressed the Euro character?
Yes. It's at 0x20AC in ISO/IEC 10646-1.
This is not a standard notation. Please use U+20AC or one of the other
standard notations to refer to UCS code
o/did not correctly identify their code
pages. The world can live with Latin-1 and CP-1252. It shouldn't have to
live with CP-1252 being identified as Latin-1.
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Ar 10:23 -0800 2000-07-11, scríobh Jon Babcock:
But covering the jiaguwen [J. koukotsumoji] (oracle bone script) is
another story. First of all, it's a moving target.
Isn't it best treated as a font variant of CJK?
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Because some people thought it was clever to adopt a nonce pronunciation
of "one" /Own/, namely /wVn/, and it stuck.
Nah, surely it was drawling. Old English [a:n] Middle English [o:n],
breaking under stress and so on to [u:@n] then transitioning to [wVn].
Michael Everson ** Ev
innovation.
Oxford notes that it is in imitation of French orthography.
It is really irritating that Oxford-orthography spell checkers are not
available from the vendors.
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, subordinate to it, and is not a
fast-track for code adoption and circumventing the international standard.
I don't think that I am being unreasonable. I'm just doing my job.
Michael Everson
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have strong
misgivings about this.
I think if this thread continues it should do so on the ISO 639 list and
the IETF list, not the Unicode list.
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mean it should get a code".
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is looking for tags, why haven't they contacted 639 or 1766 to inform
us of the kinds of requirements they have?
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om supporting minority
languages, I will say this:
It appears that six characters needed to support Chipeywan in Canadian
Syllabics are missing from the UCS. I'll be looking further into this and
taking appropriate action to get the missing characters encoded in the
Universal Character Set.
Michael Everson
Language Tag Reviewer, RFC 1766
be a lot better than two, if the spell-checkers
followed suit.
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d all
the -ize forms to a British English user dictionary since the suffix is so
very productive. The point is that the "expressed preferences" aren't
binary.
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heir acute accents, English orthography is, er,
just as chaotic as it is in Britain.
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Well, there's one nice thing about the reformed spelling. The word
"Fairneß" is now supposed to be respelled more like its English antecedent.
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y of such a huge list. Do you really find this so
unreasonable? I'm not the only one who has expressed this concern.
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e problems in the past. Things are better now, it seems. At least
there are better procedures for doing the work.
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ever.
3) Therefore, the only future 639-1 tags are those assigned to new (i.e.
not in 639-2) languages, simultaneously with a 639-2 tag. E.g. Lojban,
a currently untagged language, might get the tags "loj" and "lj".
(When Hell freezes over.)
No, just after Klingon gets them.
Mic
quirements of the international standard.
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completely replace BDS 1520:1997,
or is the old standard still valid (and being implemented)?
What are the implications for interoperability between this standard and
ISCII standards?
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Ar 19:39 -0800 2000-09-21, scríobh Patrick Andries:
Välsk in Swedish is also linked to Welsch (according to Kluge's
Etymologisches Wörterbuch), but what does it mean ?
A Swedish informant here says that "rotvälska" means 'gibberish,
incomprehensible language'.
Michael Everson ** Ev
Also the three
columns between the Cyrillic block and the Armenian block have been
dedicated to extensions, called "Cyrillic Supplementary".
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The Roadmap to the BMP has been updated. Nine new blocks have been added.
See http://www.egt.ie/standards/iso10646/bmp-roadmap-table.html. This will
also be available from the WG2 website as N2313.
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computer companies have contacted
the world's most prolific Irish typographer to licence an Ogham font for
their implementations.
Shamelessly,
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forbidden in tags, though. It just means
we weren't sure they were universally applicable enough to be specified in
the RFC.
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Jörg,
If you care about this character please fill out the appropriate forms and
submit it with samples (not ASCII art) to the UTC and/or WG2. That's how
it's done.
Michael
|=| tautological equivalent sign
* german: gleichstark
* mathematical relation (R)
* Reference: Bauer and
Ar 08:58 -0800 2000-10-04, scríobh Carl W. Brown:
[I]f I am using the Gaelic Latin script are there
differences such as collating sequences?
Yes, but chiefly because there are orthographic differences as well.
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Ar 13:36 -0800 2000-10-11, scríobh John Cowan:
In fact, of course, every extant Klingon text can be written with Unicode,
and indeed with ISO 646:1983.
Which has been superceded by ISO/IEC 646:1991.
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from the corners, or sometimes a circle with four rays
protruding in the same positions (as an O and X superimposed and hollow).
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Ar 02:04 -0800 2000-10-12, scríobh Otto Stolz:
2311 Square Lozenge
Well spotted, Otto, though John's sample looks lots bigger than the itty
bitty SQUARE LOZENGE in the standard.
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.
I suppose the question is, what is the SQUARE LOZENGE for and why is it in
the UCS?
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Mac OS 9 are very slow indeed.
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is republished. An RFC once
published cannot be changed.
I actually tried to change this with an RFC Editor note, but the RFC
Editor didn't make the change and I didn't catch the omission prior to
publication.
IETF does not allow corrigenda?
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Sorry, all. That was meant for another list. My fault for mis-editing the
header. Please ignore.
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lice 'font, bill of lading'
Provençal poliss(i)a
medieval Latin apodissa, apodixa via Latin apodixis
Greek apodeixis 'evidence, proof'
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the "thought bubble" be unified
with the "speech bubble"?
Bwahahahahahah.
ME
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of the curl in the IPA are spot on.
In short, I think these characters should be added and that there should be
no impediment to doing so. In fact, in September I was updating one of the
fonts Asmus and I use to prepare tables and I added these characters for
future use.
Michael Everson
Please see
N2306R Proposal to add LATIN CAPITAL LETTER N WITH LONG RIGHT LEG to the UCS
http://www.dkuug.dk/jtc1/sc2/wg2/docs/n2306r.pdf
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boundary? It would help me quite a lot.
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very few languages registered with IANA and certainly none of the
ones mentioned earlier.
You are welcome to register them.
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the fact that for much of the higher
terminology, Urdu tends to borrow from Arabic and Hindi tends to borrow
from Sanskrit. You may mean that "as a written language" Urdu predates
Hindi.
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Ar 07:11 -0800 2000-12-12, scríobh Mark Davis:
ARMENIAN
BULGARIAN
CHEROKEE
ETHIOPIC
GREEK
GUJARATI
GURMUKHI
INUKTITUT
OGHAM
RUNIC
RUSSIAN
SINHALA
UCAS
See http://www.egt.ie/standards/iso10646/pdf/junikod.pdf
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might glean also, including usage
of the apical vowel symbols.
I think we need to consult, offline, with the IPA about this matter.
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other things and comparing them to
Mongolian to see whether they should be unified or not is something that
has been considered, but it's seemed prudent to make sure Mongolian works
OK before leaping forward to encode the others. And Mongolian is pretty
complicated.
Michael Everson ** Everson Gunn
f.
Yes, I certainly enjoy receiving spam in Korean and Chinese. It's such a
pleasure not to have to put up with "netiquette", isn't it.
Well that's about enough.
A book which *is* interesting is Robert Phillipson's _Linguistic
imperialism_, Oxford University Press, ISBN 0-19-437146-8
Ar 13:02 -0800 2000-12-20, scríobh [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I have never heard of
boustrophedon used for vertical text.
Neither have I.
ME
Ar 05:45 -0800 2000-12-21, scríobh Elizabeth J. Pyatt:
Cases like Michael Everson or Scott Horne are the admirable and
noble exception which confirms the rule, as we say in French
("l'exception qui confirme la règle").
Well, according to Jane Hill, linguistic anthropologist at the
Ar 11:42 -0800 2000-12-21, scríobh Rick McGowan:
Also, I thought this was on the road-map, but probably has a different
name. Is this the same things as Naxi or Moso???
No, it is definitely not that. That's the one that looks like a comic book.
Michael Everson ** Everson Gunn Teoranta
The Roadmaps to the BMP and the SMP have been updated. The BMP Roadmap now
links the Unicode code charts for approved scripts.
http://www.egt.ie/standards/iso10646/bmp-roadmap-table.html
http://www.egt.ie/standards/iso10646/plane1-roadmap-table.html
Michael Everson ** Everson Gunn Teoranta
ith proper education, the suggestion that "time,
money, and interest" are the chief elements mitigating against
non-monolingualism isn't compelling.
Michael Everson, http://www.egt.ie
much to ask of most people who aren't full-time language
professionals or naturally gifted with languages.
Actually, all human beings are naturally gifted with languages, so long as
they are introduced to those languages young enough. Like well before 10.
Michael Everson ** Everson Gunn
, in general. Rather sharply as
adolescence sets in.
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A new document has been posted to the WG2 site:
N2311 "Roadmapping early Semitic scripts"
http://www.dkuug.dk/jtc1/sc2/wg2/docs/n2311.pdf
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that text written in them can be read by
switching fonts.
I have no idea how I should encode such a font. Help?
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this sort of thing is.
It is common enough. It is more common in Sweden than it is in Germany. It
was more common in Germany, Sweden, and Estonia earlier this century than
it is today.
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in such magical texts.
Abracadabra,
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stick by it. Especially for the minority scripts.
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MacBain's etymological dictionary of Scottish Gaelic, which is all we have.
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My first thought was Osmanya. But it has a very Brahmic feel to it, somehow.
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of where.
Provenance, provenance. Where did you get this image?
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nnot write this with LATIN
CAPITAL LETTER O and SUBSCRIPT TWO.
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destroys the
fixed-length scheme
It isn't meant to be a fixed-length scheme.
6) Conversion to/from Unicode is not simple for users of Chinese, Japanese,
and Korean
Neither is learning to read simple for users of Chinese and Japanese, or
Korean which uses Han.
;-)
Michael Everson ** Everson
well.
To deal with this kind of request we need a few scanned examples of the
beastie in context and a Proposal Summary Form. Of course, as you are
doing, it's good to test the waters before going to all the work of doing
up the forms. But examples are essential.
Michael Everson ** Everson Gunn
the old Deseret.
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to get in touch with users or
experts.
If my guess is right, there's very few submissions from outside Unicode,
and really no evidence that this would pick up significantly after Tengwar
or Klingon got encoded.
I would tend to concur with this assessment.
Michael Everson ** Everson Gunn Teoranta
r creators.)
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.jtc.co.jp/hotsuma/index-e.htm) for
what is supposedly Old Japanese, which has books and articles published
about it, and fonts in existence, but it has no contact with CSUR.
In fact, I *have* seen this. As I recall Ken Whistler and I looked at it
when we were at the WG2 meeting in Fukuoka.
Micha
scripts like Paucartambo. There are some scripts whose names keep
getting repeated in the literature but for which it's almost impossible to
get any samples at all.
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The Phaistos disk is either a sample of writing or it is a board game. But
as a board game it doesn't look very interesting.
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seems odd that there would be a
script in as heavily studied a location as the Aegean
with only one example; it probably is a script, but I
would say that the jury is still out).
The sample we have pf Phaistos is, at least, well-designed, clear, and
easily analyzable. Meaning, at least it's not a rumour
Sebastian,
I just got two brand new Macs with 9.0.4 installed. How do I get the
WorldText application?
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At 04:48 -0800 2001-02-08, J M Sykes quoted the FT:
The International Standards Organisation (ISO) has now agreed to give
standard meanings to these remaining codes.
Which as everyone knows, is really the International Organization for
Standardization (ISO).
Sigh.
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At 21:25 -0800 2001-02-20, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And perhaps the Mac people think of MacRoman as "8-bit ASCII."
No, we think of it as Mac Roman.
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of Unicode.
Presently, at any rate. Who's to say that all the music software
companies won't one day, 20 years from now, agree a character-based
way to set music and interchange data. But there's nothing like that
on the horizon today.
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or Klingon. It does not, however, appear
that it meets the criteria for use as well as Tengwar and Cirth.
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characters.
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the users of those characters apply
to the UTC and WG2 to have their characters accepted into the
Universal Character Set.
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oes is map to Unicode? If there is no mapping, was it ever proposed for
addition?
It doesn't map to Unicode, and the Armenians have not proposed it.
Nor has any of their information explained what it means or how it is
used.
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at line end). Also, there is no reason why a consonant
other than rho should be followed by a combining diacritical mark, except
say an underdot for use in papyrological or epigraphical texts.
Sigma with caron is used at least in dictionaries of the Tsakonian dialect.
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At 10:35 -0600 2001-02-26, Ayers, Mike wrote:
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Oh, we've got a *proposal* for Klingon. It does not, however, appear
that it meets the criteria for use as well as Tengwar and Cirth.
Okay, I've finally gotta ask: what are Tengwar
age; Georgian, Latin, Cyrillic, Ogham, Runic, and Greek have
been used for other languages.
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At 18:44 +0100 2001-02-26, Marco Cimarosti wrote:
Michael Everson wrote:
Yes, an alphabet proper is usually the subset of an alphabetic
script. Armenian seems to be the exception, as it is only used for
one language; Georgian, Latin, Cyrillic, Ogham, Runic, and Greek have
been used
seems to be that there doesn't seem to be a strong
requirement to interchange text in the Klingon script.
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for test
implementations for Blissymbolics and SignWriting for just the same
reason. So we can prove that our model is correct and that it works.
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our
alphabet. There is a difference. The behaviour of your "ch" as a
letter can easily be handled by various software solutions, and has
been as long as Slovak texts have been encoded, say with ISO/IEC
8859. The encoding of your "ch" is a sequence of two characters
there, and in
these compatibility characters only for the Serbo-Croatian
additions to Cyrillic, but not for the other Cyrillic characters?
It was politically motivated, to satisfy a voting NB.
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in a bit I'll have to say something about all this Klingon silliness.
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How do I convert Metafonts to outline fonts?
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to volunteer to help me out?
Thanks,
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