RE: [UC] election night stress buster - only the boyz do this

2004-11-03 Thread Turner,Kathleen
Title: Message Simple. Idiot Son Of An Asshole lyrics He's not smart, a C studentAnd that's after buying his way into schoolBeady eyes, and he's kinda dyslexicCan he read? No one's really quite sureHe signs stuff and he executes peopleMaybe that's why, he doesn't have any friendsCocaine

Re: [UC] Dave Axler, local resident had heart surgery

2004-11-03 Thread PMUyehara
An interesting post for a number of reasons. This really shows another angle on well wishing, being supportive and caring. While all the rationales for criticism of the posted news were laid out, and I appreciate the chance to be sensitized, it seems harsh to be so dismissive of the

[UC] Bush Victory

2004-11-03 Thread Jonathan Cass
The only silver lining I can see is that Bush is going have to deal with the mess that he created in Iraq and the next terrorist attack that will likely occur on his watch. I don't even want to think about what is going to happen with the Supreme Court. I think I am going to puke. Jonathan A.

Re: [UC] Bush Victory

2004-11-03 Thread Dan Myers
Anybody up for a mass move to Canada? I am utterly disgustedI thought this country knew what was good for them. Obviously, they are interested in making themselves look smarter by having a dumb president. It's really pathetic. I am hoping for a recount. Florida decision was made quite

Re: [UC] Bush Victory

2004-11-03 Thread Mark Krull
Its depressing really. It was values that led to this. -Original Message- From: Jonathan Cass [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Nov 3, 2004 9:09 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [UC] Bush Victory The only silver lining I can see is that Bush is going have to deal with the mess that he created in

Re: [UC] Bush Victory

2004-11-03 Thread Naomi
Title: Re: [UC] Bush Victory I have to agree. I am so very, very ashamed to be an American today and feeling quite ill from thinking about long-term legacy the next 4 years will have on our country. God/Goddess/Buddha/Allah/whomever/whatever help us now while we try to sleep in the beds weve

Re: [UC] Bush Victory

2004-11-03 Thread Samuel Nicolary
On Wed, 3 Nov 2004, Dan Myers wrote: Anybody up for a mass move to Canada? I am utterly disgustedI thought this country knew what was good for them. Obviously, they are interested in making themselves look smarter by having a dumb president. It's really pathetic. I am hoping for a

Re: [UC] Bush Victory

2004-11-03 Thread Paul Grossman
Title: Re: [UC] Bush Victory Hillary in 2008! :) - Original Message - From: Naomi To: Jonathan Cass ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 10:03 AM Subject: Re: [UC] Bush Victory I have to agree. I am so very, very ashamed to be an American today

Re: [UC] Bush Victory

2004-11-03 Thread Brian Siano
Dan Myers wrote: Anybody up for a mass move to Canada? Oh, come off it. Why is it that liberals always talk about moving to Canada when elections go horribly wrong? When you really think about it, doesn't this make liberals look, well, kind of stupid? First of all, I never heard conservatives

RE: [UC] Bush Victory

2004-11-03 Thread Turner,Kathleen
Very good analysis on Slate.com (http://www.slate.com/id/2109079/) of why we keep losing to this idiot. The gist is that people don't want to think -- they don't want to see the world as a complicated place with a lot of shades of grey. They want a simple person who lets them see the world as a

RE: [UC] Bush Victory

2004-11-03 Thread Jonathan Cass
By the way, Vancouver is lovely -- and if I am not mistaken, has very liberal pot laws, thereby permitting ex-patriots to blunt their pain, with, well, blunts. Jonathan A. Cass -Original Message- From: Turner,Kathleen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 10:17 AM

RE: [UC] Bush Victory

2004-11-03 Thread Jonathan Cass
Title: Re: [UC] Bush Victory Actually, Hillary in 2008 is recipe for disaster. Bill Clinton was very popular butHilary was not.A female, liberal from the North East doesn't stand a chance. Jonathan A. Cass -Original Message-From: Paul Grossman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent:

Re: [UC] Bush Victory

2004-11-03 Thread David Ford
I'm very concerned about the legacy we leave our children. I think they'll be fine economically if they're rich, and screwed otherwise. I think that the security situation will get worse, and Bush will breed more terrorists around the world in the next four years than we've seen in the last

Re: [UC] Bush Victory

2004-11-03 Thread Wilma de Soto
Yes, it certainly is. Moreover, the Heartland which decides the course of this country is the least likely place where a terrorist attack will occur. They are prone to attack major metropolitan areas large, financial districts or seats of national government; namely the Eastern Seaboard and West

RE: [UC] Bush Victory

2004-11-03 Thread Jonathan Cass
It is not the democratic process that is pathetic, it is the people who are engaging in the democratic process. Remember, Hitler was very popular for a period of time too. As to the Slate article, I don't see John Edwards as being a particularly strong candidate- what did he bring to the ticket

[UC] DON'T GO ANYWHERE!!

2004-11-03 Thread Mario Giorno
Title: DON'T GO ANYWHERE!! To University City Democrats, Listen to me out there. This isn't over yet. 1. Though it's looking like a Bush victory, that's no reason not to wait for the official count in Ohio and the other 4 states. 2. If Bush is elected, we need to work harder than ever

[UC] DON'T GO ANYWHERE!!

2004-11-03 Thread Mario Giorno
Title: DON'T GO ANYWHERE!! To University City Democrats, Listen to me out there. This isn't over yet. 1. Though it's looking like a Bush victory, that's no reason not to wait for the official count in Ohio and the other 4 states. 2. If Bush is elected, we need to work harder than ever

RE: [UC] Bush Victory

2004-11-03 Thread Mark Krull
Yup. The South has risen again and this time they have won the war. Look at the electral map. Hillary will get blown out like McGovern -Original Message- From: Jonathan Cass [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Nov 3, 2004 10:31 AM To: 'Paul Grossman' [EMAIL PROTECTED], 'Naomi' [EMAIL PROTECTED],

Re: [UC] Bush Victory

2004-11-03 Thread Sharon Nicolary
For those of you who are ashamed to be an American, shame on you. We are lucky to be in a country where we have the right to express our opinion, and yes, vote for whomever we want... For those of you who want to move to Canada, why all the talk? Move to Canada. If you think you'll be happier

RE: [UC] Bush Victory

2004-11-03 Thread Sharon Nicolary
Hitler? Oh so now Bush is Hitler. That's an intelligent thing to say. If I were you and I believed that, I would get the hell out and stop talking about it. Sharon Quoting Jonathan Cass [EMAIL PROTECTED]: It is not the democratic process that is pathetic, it is the people who are engaging in the

[UC] DON'T GO ANYWHERE!!

2004-11-03 Thread Mario Giorno
Title: DON'T GO ANYWHERE!! To University City Democrats, Listen to me out there. This isn't over yet. 1. Though it's looking like a Bush victory, that's no reason not to wait for the official count in Ohio and the other 4 states. 2. If Bush is elected, we need to work harder than ever

RE: [UC] Bush Victory

2004-11-03 Thread Jonathan Cass
Hitler? Oh so now Bush is Hitler. That wasn't my point. My point was that a popular leader -- and Bush appears to have won the popular vote -- is not necessarily a good, worthy leader. I think the emerging flaw in our democratic process is that the process itself is causing this country to have

RE: [UC] Bush Victory

2004-11-03 Thread Clinton, J. Scott
I'm not exactly sure how this all relates to west philly, but I suppose that the election is the most newsworthy topic of discussion for most people; all of the lists I subscribe to are temporarially election discussion lists. So here's my plea. Try not to blame the outcome of the election on

Re: [UC] Bush Victory

2004-11-03 Thread Dan Myers
Let me re-iterate: I don't think the democratic process is failed in any way. (except the inconsistent way people vote at the polling booths, and maybe our out-dated electoral college system) I think the PEOPLE in this country are pathetic. I know I have no control of that, and have to accept

RE: [UC] Dave Axler, local resident had heart surgery

2004-11-03 Thread Dubin, Elisabeth
I agree with Paul. Dave's post made me sad. Dave, you could have just made your point more concisely and said a few positive words about the idea that people care about you. The poster is probably crying right now. :( Anyway, hope you are recovering well. ELISABETH DUBIN Hillier

RE: [UC] Bush Victory

2004-11-03 Thread Dubin, Elisabeth
Actually, Sharon, we DON'T have to hold back from saying we're ashamed. If I'm ashamed, then I'm ashamed. If I'm angry, then I am angry and I can't make nicey-nice right now. I hope we continue to be divided as opposed to apathetic. ELISABETH DUBIN Hillier ARCHITECTURE One South Penn Square,

RE: [UC] Bush Victory

2004-11-03 Thread Sharon Nicolary
Well-said. -- Sharon Nicolary Quoting Clinton, J. Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'm not exactly sure how this all relates to west philly, but I suppose that the election is the most newsworthy topic of discussion for most people; all of the lists I subscribe to are temporarially election discussion

RE: [UC] Bush Victory

2004-11-03 Thread Mario Giorno
Title: RE: [UC] Bush Victory Scott, That's an excellent observation. The idea that no candidate is actually a good religious fit. I have to admit that I always hope that people leave religion and spiritual ideology out of politics and public policy. I feel this way, Scott, because it's

RE: [UC] Bush Victory

2004-11-03 Thread Sharon Nicolary
I agree that criticism is vital to the process. Your point is valid there. But there is a difference between intelligent criticism and some of the things I read on this list or hear on CNN. I agree also with your that both candidates being deeply flawed. White males with Yale degrees and wealthy

Re: [UC] Bush Victory

2004-11-03 Thread Monique . M . Harvey
I don't believe in the like it or leave it philosophy when it comes to America. The right to stay and fight the good fight and try to right the wrongs is what makes this place cool. And knowing there's always hope that we will live to see our personal and political goals, values, ideals and

Re: [UC] Dave Axler, local resident had heart surgery

2004-11-03 Thread DaveAxler
You ask some valid questions, which I'll attempt to answer briefly... 1) Was the poster "...trying to be helpful in letting those who are concerned about you know that you are doing well?" Not being a mind reader, I can't speak to the poster's intention. I can only talk about the effects of his

RE: [UC] Dave Axler's posting

2004-11-03 Thread Turner,Kathleen
Title: RE: [UC] Dave Axler's posting I don't really know Dave, except through this list, but have to say (and perhaps for that very reason) that I agree with him and support his message. Setting aside the issue of security of his house, after it was broadcast to the neighborhood that he

RE: [UC] Hospital visits

2004-11-03 Thread Turner,Kathleen
Title: RE: [UC] Hospital visits Having had some experience on this one, I'll add a gentle correction -- The average hospital stay for a non-complicated, non-c-section delivery is less than 24 hours. During that time, particularly if the mother is trying to establish breastfeeding (this is

RE: [UC] Bush Victory

2004-11-03 Thread J. Matthew Wolfe
Title: Re: [UC] Bush Victory I could not agree more. Hillary in 2008! Matt Wolfe -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Paul GrossmanSent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 10:19 AMTo: Naomi; Jonathan Cass; [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject:

[UC] Firewood

2004-11-03 Thread Vincent/Roger
We have lost our long time firewood supplier that we had for our house and at the Palladium. So I wanted to know if anyone knew of resonably priced firewood supplier. This would be both for our house and our restaurant (Abbraccio), so we go through quite a bit. Thanks in advance for any

[UC] Re: Firewood

2004-11-03 Thread Charles H. Buchholtz
From: Vincent/Roger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 14:33:13 -0500 We have lost our long time firewood supplier that we had for our house and at the Palladium. So I wanted to know if anyone knew of resonably priced firewood supplier. This would be both for our house and

Re: [UC] Dave Axler, local resident had heart surgery

2004-11-03 Thread Benseraglio2
In a message dated 11/3/2004 1:08:50 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 4) You also ask, "Do most people who have been hospitalized feel that way?" Before writing my post, I discussed my experiences and thoughts with about a dozen friends and relatives who had undergone

Fw: [UC] Bush Victory

2004-11-03 Thread Marianne Das
- Original Message - From: Marianne Das [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jonathan Cass [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 3:23 AM Subject: Re: [UC] Bush Victory Don't laugh, but one of my former neighbors recently sold her house here in University City and moved to Vancouver.

Re: [UC] Bush Victory

2004-11-03 Thread Elliot M. Stern
I'm inclined to agree with Jonathan Cass's initial comment in this thread. Further, consider that this may be the high point of Bush's career: he actually was elected President. Elliot Elliot M. Stern 552 South 48th Street Philadelphia, PA 19143-2029 United States of America telephone:

[UC] Re: Firewood

2004-11-03 Thread Wilma de Soto
I have also used Co-Marh. Not only were the guys great but they stacked the cord of wood AND it was seasoned, ready-to-burn wood. Many companies who deliver do NOT deliver seasoned wood. -Wilma On 11/3/04 3:05 PM, Charles H. Buchholtz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Vincent/Roger [EMAIL

[UC] Election - what really happened

2004-11-03 Thread PMUyehara
For those who are upset with the election results, are getting into arguments with others about the meaning of the results, or just need to relax, I'm passing on a message I got at work from a fellow consumer bankruptcy lawyer, which is good whether you're a D or R. It's all about the dangers of

[UC] A Post election Prescription

2004-11-03 Thread Joe Clarke
I know no one asked for this but it was passed on to me and restores a little perspective. Hope it helps. Joe A Post-Election Prescription: What will come of all this on Nov. 3? Some will pick up the morningpaper and save it for a souvenir, and the others will wrap up thegarbage in it.

[UC] Halloween : the Election : Car story - police kudos

2004-11-03 Thread Elizabeth F. Campion
Halloween at our house was a blast! -- Cindy Preston coordinated an event that treated 1,100 kids. Three early visitors were roped into volunteering without notice or preparation. Ed Robertson took over the Soda station and after handing out the