Re: [Usability] The use of ellipsis (...) in menus

2006-03-19 Thread Joachim Noreiko
I've always been aware of the ellipsis on menus. --- Ross Burton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The definition is quite clear and is in the HIG: http://developer.gnome.org/projects/gup/hig/2.0/menus-design.html * Label the menu item with a trailing ellipsis (...) only if the command

Re: [Usability] The use of ellipsis (...) in menus

2006-03-19 Thread Matthew Paul Thomas
On Mar 15, 2006, at 9:01 PM, Sergej Kotliar wrote: ... When translating some apps into Swedish, I noticed some strings had triple dots (...) after them. Turned out - most of them were in the menus. Since I had never thought about their existence, I decided to find out what they meant. By looking

Re: [Usability] The use of ellipsis (...) in menus

2006-03-19 Thread Ross Burton
On Sun, 2006-03-19 at 13:28 +, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: * The use of three dots to indicate a dialog opening seems rather oldfashioned - can't we have something better now? That's probably your worst reason. Old is not a synonym for bad. It's also semantically correct (in English at

Re: [Usability] Mute in GNOME mixer applet does not have correct behavior

2006-03-19 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Sun, 2006-03-19 at 18:30 +0100, Jaap Haitsma wrote: Wanting to set the volume to a level so that you do not hear is a special case. Just wanting to set volume lower isn't. The term for this special case is mute not 0. I was not arguing that simply wanting to lower the volume was a special

Re: [Usability] Mute in GNOME mixer applet does not have correct behavior

2006-03-19 Thread Joachim Noreiko
--- Jaap Haitsma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If there aren't any other people who feel like me that there should be a 0 icon to represent, I'm happy to go with your suggested improvement that the 0% volume is shown as low instead of muted as it is now. I agree with you entirely. 0 is a

Re: [Usability] Mute in GNOME mixer applet does not have correct behavior

2006-03-19 Thread Joachim Noreiko
--- Rodney Dawes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The icon makes absolutely no sense. There's no reason to have a single icon for 1/101 values, and 3 others for 33.33../100 values each. And by your argument that a single ) is not representative of the 0% level, the same can be said for no ), as

Re: [Usability] The use of ellipsis (...) in menus

2006-03-19 Thread Alan Horkan
On Sun, 19 Mar 2006, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 13:28:20 + From: Matthew Paul Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Sergej Kotliar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: usability@gnome.org Subject: Re: [Usability] The use of ellipsis (...) in menus On Mar 15, 2006, at 9:01 PM, Sergej

[Usability] Mouse actions

2006-03-19 Thread Joachim Noreiko
Another vocab question: The User Guide section 'Basic Skills' lists things it calls 'Mouse actions': click, double-click, drag, etc. But then it says: You can perform the following actions with the mouse: Left mouse button * Select text. * Select items. * Drag items.

[Usability] Re: Mute in GNOME mixer applet does not have correct behavior

2006-03-19 Thread Alex L. Mauer
Rodney Dawes wrote: And other than the case where a non-GNOME application is setting the volume on the hardware itself to 0, how many people are really going to hold down the lower volume key, rather than just pressing mute? Another thing we need to do, is to make it easy to mute the volume,