Re: Apple Safari 6.1 issues warning

2013-09-08 Thread Dick Kriesel
Stephen -- I'm glad you did; you made the thread more fun than if someone else had pointed it out. A belly laugh, even, Stephen. On Sep 7, 2013, at 10:55 PM, stephen barncard stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com wrote: geesh... . I shouldn't have pointed out my mistake. Tough crowd. no slack!

Re: What is the size limit for numbers in LC? -- and multiplying really large numbers

2013-09-08 Thread Geoff Canyon
On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 2:07 PM, David Bovill david.bov...@gmail.com wrote: The bits I don't quite get yet are: 1. ignore any overflows (just use the lowest 64 bits) 2. grab an 8-byte chunk as a 64-bit integer 3. add it to the checksum My understanding is that I should be: 1.

Re: Apple Safari 6.1 issues warning

2013-09-08 Thread Richmond
On 09/08/2013 09:59 AM, Dick Kriesel wrote: Stephen -- I'm glad you did; you made the thread more fun than if someone else had pointed it out. A belly laugh, even, Stephen. I'd better not start, as you don't really want a face full of verbal diaorrhea. Richmond. On Sep 7, 2013, at

Re: Apple Safari 6.1 issues warning

2013-09-08 Thread Richmond
On 09/07/2013 11:23 PM, stephen barncard wrote: snip Safari 6.1 shows us what's in our Mavericks future: More controlling and more UI changes that annoy. snip Windows, Apple, and even the Ubuntu people are doing this. I believe that IF people voted with their feet and moved over to Linux

Re: setting all the customProperties of A to those of B

2013-09-08 Thread Dave Kilroy
You are using two different control types (group and card). Perhaps you can do the setting of customProperties between two controls of the same type without the need for an intervening variable Dr. Hawkins wrote And put the customProperties of grp B into zz set the customProperties of

Re: [ANN] LiveCode for the Real Beginner

2013-09-08 Thread Mark Schonewille
Hi, Tomorrow we'll be shipping more books. If you want to have it next week, you need to order it today and make sure that you confirm your address when we send you a request. In a few days, we will be shipping copies of my book Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner again. If you

Brave New World (was Re: Apple Safari 6.1 issues warning)

2013-09-08 Thread FlexibleLearning.com
On 09/07/2013 11:23 PM, stephen barncard wrote: snip Safari 6.1 shows us what's in our Mavericks future: More controlling and more UI changes that annoy. snip Richmond replied: Windows, Apple, and even the Ubuntu people are doing this. I believe that IF people voted with their feet and

Re: iPhoneControls group close

2013-09-08 Thread Gerry Orkin
Vaughn Tom beat me to it re the rect you are using and the delete control stuff. However I think Tom is wrong about his second delete example since you haven't given the browser control a name when you create it. Do that this way: iphoneControlCreate browser, mapbrowser That way you can

Web browser plugins revisited

2013-09-08 Thread Richmond
Yeah, it's hoary chestnut time . . . I wonder exactly why RunRev are not trying for a web-browser plug-in again? It would be very useful indeed for online demos . . . Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit

GPL and money?

2013-09-08 Thread Richmond
I have just read this: These unfortunate comments seem to stem from a common misunderstanding, namely that software freedom requires that software be made available without cost. Such is not true and there is nothing in the GNU GPL which prevents charging for software. In fact the GNU website

Re: iPhoneControls group close

2013-09-08 Thread Vaughn Clement
Hi Thomas Although LC is an English style scripting language, it also needs to be proper English as I am finding out... Thank you for the assistance. Thank you Vaughn Clement Apps by Vaughn Clement (Support) *http://www.appsbyvaughnclement.com/tools/home-page/* Skype: vaughn.clement

Mac Classic versions

2013-09-08 Thread Richmond
At the risk of annoying someone . . . I am in the process of converting a slot-loading G3 iMac backwards from 10.4.11 to 9.2 as I have unearthed a large number of Dorling-Kindersley CD-ROMs that will be put to good use in my school. I am also on the look out for Mac Classic versions of

Re: setting all the customProperties of A to those of B

2013-09-08 Thread dunbarx
I would never think that could be an issue. Custom properties are not object dependent. I set the customProperties of a card to that of a button. Worked as I assumed it would. Craig Newman -Original Message- From: Dave Kilroy d...@applicationinsight.com To: use-revolution

Re: setting all the customProperties of A to those of B

2013-09-08 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 6:31 AM, dunb...@aol.com wrote: I would never think that could be an issue. Custom properties are not object dependent. I set the customProperties of a card to that of a button. Worked as I assumed it would. Buttons are special, though; they're set up to be behaviors.

Re: Anyone have an old Pentium II machine?

2013-09-08 Thread Alex Tweedly
The Macbook is just that much faster He was using an old machine, and a (now) old version of Python (artcile was from 2004). On My Macbook Pro the Python versions are somewhere in the 3-5 million per second (assuming my re-write of the timing stuff was right - he used system packages

Re: GPL and money?

2013-09-08 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 4:27 AM, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote: Does that mean that developers producing standalones with LC Community are permitted to charge for their software? Yes, but . . . AND . . . does that mean that those who purchase software made using LC Community

Re: Anyone have an old Pentium II machine?

2013-09-08 Thread Mark Wieder
Alex- Sunday, September 8, 2013, 6:38:40 AM, you wrote: On My Macbook Pro the Python versions are somewhere in the 3-5 million per second (assuming my re-write of the timing stuff was right - he used system packages that are now obsolete). Yeah - I'm curious about your rewrite. I tried

Re: Apple Safari 6.1 issues warning

2013-09-08 Thread Roger Eller
Punsters (aka punishers) often need to trial their puns on loving friends and family. What bugs, if any, have you discovered in-test-in'? On Sep 8, 2013 12:37 AM, Dick Kriesel wrote: Mark -- I've noticed you belch out a pun now and then. I'll bet you feel better afterwards, too. On Sep 7,

Re: setting all the customProperties of A to those of B

2013-09-08 Thread Dave Kilroy
Yes I agree buttons are special - however just did some tests and setting customProperties group to group was fine, as was card to card - group to card failed for me until I specified the card the group was on - and then it worked fine (LiveCode 6.1 rc4 on Lion) set the customproperties of cd

Re: Brave New World (was Re: Apple Safari 6.1 issues warning)

2013-09-08 Thread Peter M. Brigham
On Sep 8, 2013, at 6:43 AM, FlexibleLearning.com wrote: On 09/07/2013 11:23 PM, stephen barncard wrote: snip Safari 6.1 shows us what's in our Mavericks future: More controlling and more UI changes that annoy. snip Richmond replied: Windows, Apple, and even the Ubuntu people are

[OT] VMware Player 6

2013-09-08 Thread Richmond
Is now available, and there is a FREE version for personal use although you have to navigate round the VMware Plus at $85 stuff. Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and

Re: Brave New World (was Re: Apple Safari 6.1 issues warning)

2013-09-08 Thread Dave Kilroy
wait ... you had candles? -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Brave-New-World-was-Re-Apple-Safari-6-1-issues-warning-tp4669514p4669529.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: Brave New World (was Re: Apple Safari 6.1 issues warning)

2013-09-08 Thread Richmond
On 09/08/2013 06:05 PM, Dave Kilroy wrote: wait ... you had candles? I was brought up in a superior family: we has an abacus. -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Brave-New-World-was-Re-Apple-Safari-6-1-issues-warning-tp4669514p4669529.html Sent

David Smith

2013-09-08 Thread Mark Schonewille
Dear David Smith, I'm trying to contact you, but apparently I don't have the right contact data and it is impossible to reach you. Please, send me an e-mail as soon as possible. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage:

Re: [on-rev] Problem with revIgniter on DIESEL - any clue!?

2013-09-08 Thread Robert Mann
Thanks for the info. So far David could not solve the problem on DIESEL, my account has been moved to TIO where everything works fine! Mystery, mystery..! -- View this message in context:

Re: setting all the customProperties of A to those of B

2013-09-08 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 7:23 AM, Dave Kilroy d...@applicationinsight.com wrote: Yes I agree buttons are special - however just did some tests and setting customProperties group to group was fine, as was card to card - group to card failed for me until I specified the card the group was on - and

Re: Anyone have an old Pentium II machine?

2013-09-08 Thread Alex Tweedly
I googled it (can't remember exactly what phrase) and found a page which described the obsolete timibg package, and had a hpw tp replace it using the new 'time' package, and copy/pasted the code form that. It just put the various funciton in-line - so I had to change e.g. timing.start() to

Re: Anyone have an old Pentium II machine?

2013-09-08 Thread Geoff Canyon
On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 8:38 AM, Alex Tweedly a...@tweedly.net wrote: On My Macbook Pro the Python versions are somewhere in the 3-5 million per second (assuming my re-write of the timing stuff was right - he used system packages that are now obsolete). For which of his 6 versions of the

RE: iPhoneControls group close

2013-09-08 Thread Ralph DiMola
Vaughn, Here's what I put in the stack script. Just to make sure on closecard If the environment = mobile repeat for each line mcontrol in mobileControls() mobileControlDelete mcontrol end repeat end if end closecard Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services

Re: Brave New World (was Re: Apple Safari 6.1 issues warning)

2013-09-08 Thread Mark Wieder
Richmond- Sunday, September 8, 2013, 8:17:35 AM, you wrote: I was brought up in a superior family: we has an abacus. You're an abacus And my heart was counting on us --Barenaked Ladies Adrift -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___

Re: David Smith

2013-09-08 Thread Mark Schonewille
Hi Geoff, Gmail does that a lot with e-mails from this list. Perhaps it is better not to use Gmail or to whitelist all e-mails from this list. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter:

Re: Apple Safari 6.1 issues warning

2013-09-08 Thread Dick Kriesel
Roger -- I could write a whole book about 'em. Well, maybe just an appendix. On Sep 8, 2013, at 7:15 AM, Roger Eller roger.e.el...@sealedair.com wrote: Punsters (aka punishers) often need to trial their puns on loving friends and family. What bugs, if any, have you discovered in-test-in'?

Re: Apple Safari 6.1 issues warning

2013-09-08 Thread Richmond
On 09/08/2013 08:32 PM, Dick Kriesel wrote: Roger -- I could write a whole book about 'em. Well, maybe just an appendix. An efflorescence of gut flora, maybe? On Sep 8, 2013, at 7:15 AM, Roger Eller roger.e.el...@sealedair.com wrote: Punsters (aka punishers) often need to trial their

Re: David Smith

2013-09-08 Thread stephen barncard
On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 10:26 AM, Mark Schonewille m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com wrote: Perhaps it is better not to use Gmail or to whitelist all e-mails from this list. Mark, that's really a stretch. Gmail works better than just about anything out there... I'd look elsewhere for

Re: David Smith

2013-09-08 Thread Mark Schonewille
Guys, the message was for someone called David Smith and only for him. There is absolutely no need to start a discussion. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK:

Re: David Smith

2013-09-08 Thread stephen barncard
On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Mark Schonewille m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com wrote: Guys, the message was for someone called David Smith and only for him. There is absolutely no need to start a discussion. consider me scolded, Mark. (good grief) -- Stephen Barncard San

Re: Apple Safari 6.1 issues warning

2013-09-08 Thread Keith Clarke
Too true - there's an offal lot of it about! On 8 Sep 2013, at 18:32, Dick Kriesel dick.krie...@mail.com wrote: Roger -- I could write a whole book about 'em. Well, maybe just an appendix. On Sep 8, 2013, at 7:15 AM, Roger Eller roger.e.el...@sealedair.com wrote: Punsters (aka

Re: setting all the customProperties of A to those of B

2013-09-08 Thread dunbarx
I made a new stack and a group. I set two custom properties of that group. I then set the customProperties of the card to the customProperties of the group. Worked fine. Craig -Original Message- From: Dr. Hawkins doch...@gmail.com To: How to use LiveCode

Re: David Smith

2013-09-08 Thread Mark Schonewille
That's ok, Stephen, as long as it is clear that I was in no way rude. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Use Color Converter to convert CMYK, RGB,

Basic iOS question

2013-09-08 Thread William Waldman
Hello List... I thought this would be simple to do but apparently not for me... I'm trying to create and app on iOS that simply opens the mic (and can choose between available sources, such as built in or Bluetooth) and routes the audio to output (also choose between available sources, built

Re: Basic iOS question

2013-09-08 Thread Monte Goulding
On 09/09/2013, at 7:33 AM, William Waldman wwald...@klht.org wrote: I thought this would be simple to do but apparently not for me... I'm trying to create and app on iOS that simply opens the mic (and can choose between available sources, such as built in or Bluetooth) and routes the

Re: Anyone have an old Pentium II machine?

2013-09-08 Thread Alex Tweedly
For versions 1 and 6 (I didn't bother initially with the intermediate ones). Here's the full result: (all on Macbook Pro, OSX 10.8.4, and the built-in Python version 2.7.5) (code, except for putting in a loop to do them all, as sent in the earlier email) method 1 time 0.025813 taking

Re: Apple Safari 6.1 issues warning

2013-09-08 Thread Mark Wieder
Keith- Sunday, September 8, 2013, 10:57:33 AM, you wrote: Too true - there's an offal lot of it about! Move along folks. Nothing to see here. Carrion. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-livecode mailing list

weird comboMenus

2013-09-08 Thread Jacques Hausser
Hello everybody, I discovered something curious with a group of combo menus: if some of them are disabled by a stack script when the card is not the current one, they keep a white background; if they are disabled (calling the same script) when the card is the current one, they become

Does the mobile browser really work x-plat?

2013-09-08 Thread Roger Eller
Specifically on Android, built in LiveCode 6.1.1 RC4. I have Android 4.1.1, and 2.3.3 devices for testing, but I get no browser display. The same code is working on iOS. ~Roger ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit

Re: [OT] SmartWatches

2013-09-08 Thread Jeff Reynolds
gotta love the design, no one for samsung to copy! talk about a lot of un-needed bits on something that small where space is precious. sick enough of folks glancing at their phones constantly (we have a house guest right now that looks to his phone about 50% of the time he is talking to you

sending attachments on Android

2013-09-08 Thread Terry Judd
I can't seem to send attachments using mobileComposeMail on Android. I can attach the data/file OK from within LC and it shows up in the email message viewer, but when I send it I invariably get a 'can't send attachment' notification from the system. The email gets sent OK but the attachment is

Re: Anyone have an old Pentium II machine?

2013-09-08 Thread Geoff Canyon
Interesting that the naive solution (1) isn't a dog anymore, although (6) is still best. On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 5:24 PM, Alex Tweedly a...@tweedly.net wrote: For versions 1 and 6 (I didn't bother initially with the intermediate ones). Here's the full result: (all on Macbook Pro, OSX

Re: David Smith

2013-09-08 Thread Geoff Canyon
On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 12:26 PM, Mark Schonewille m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com wrote: Gmail does that a lot with e-mails from this list. Perhaps it is better not to use Gmail or to whitelist all e-mails from this list. I did set up a filter. The problem is, now many messages show up

Re: David Smith

2013-09-08 Thread Jerry Jensen
Well, since they are reading everybody's gmail, maybe just complaining about it like this will do the trick? HEY GMAIL, ARE YOU GOING TO SPAMIFY THIS? IN SPITE OF PEOPLE'S FILTERS? On Sep 8, 2013, at 6:55 PM, Geoff Canyon gcan...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 12:26 PM, Mark

Re: Multitasking Comes to iOS, Time for LC to make it better

2013-09-08 Thread Stelios Stylianou
i apologize if this is a basic question. how do we use the mergTestApp with fruitstrap? thanks On Jun 10, 2013, at 8:13 PM, Monte Goulding wrote: On 11/06/2013, at 11:35 AM, Colin Holgate wrote: Sadly no, you always need the latest Xcode to drag onto the latest iOS. Maybe that's

Re: Multitasking Comes to iOS, Time for LC to make it better

2013-09-08 Thread Monte Goulding
On 09/09/2013, at 1:03 PM, Stelios Stylianou wrote: i apologize if this is a basic question. how do we use the mergTestApp with fruitstrap? Plug your phone in and click the button ;-) -- M E R Goulding Software development services Bespoke application development for vertical markets

Re: Dropbox Library Update

2013-09-08 Thread Roger Eller
I must have a problem with the path to the library once it's on the Android device. I did get the browser control to initialize and all of the dropbox buttons work, but only after copying the script of the lib into the mainstack. I will have to investigate further when time permits. ~Roger

Re: weird comboMenus

2013-09-08 Thread dunbarx
Confirmed here. Matters where the command is executed. Craig Newman -Original Message- From: Jacques Hausser jacques.haus...@unil.ch To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Sun, Sep 8, 2013 6:47 pm Subject: weird comboMenus Hello everybody, I discovered

Re: Does the mobile browser really work x-plat?

2013-09-08 Thread Roger Eller
Nevermind. It is working. ~Roger ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode