Re: Serendipity Library Update 20030123

2003-01-27 Thread Richard Gaskin
Freedom's just an other word for nothin' left to lose Kris Kristofferson just having musical buzzwords in the archives is a beacon to extremists. Sorry, couldn't resist the opportunity for a little levity. FWIW, I'm not the oldest person here, but neither am I the youngest. The current

Re: Another group question

2003-01-27 Thread Jeanne A. E. DeVoto
At 2:12 PM -0800 1/25/03, Mark Swindell wrote: I'm curious, though, why the group doesn't show up in the Object|Place Group menu... aren't all groups that are a part of a stack and not placed on the current card supposed to show up there, background or other? They should, yes. I'm not sure what

Re: Find Item's Line w/offset

2003-01-27 Thread Jeanne A. E. DeVoto
At 1:17 PM -0800 1/24/03, mark mitchell wrote: set the wholeMatches to true put itemOffset(whatToFind,theContainer) into myItemNumber put the number of lines in (item 1 to myItemNumber of theContainer) \ into theItemLine That's beautiful in its simplicity. Thanks Jeanne! For those

RE: StartUp handler on Windows

2003-01-27 Thread Jeanne A. E. DeVoto
At 5:43 PM -0800 1/22/03, erik hansen wrote: anyway, it would be nice to know if there is something like the HC Home stack where a startup handler fires when the Rev app is clicked. then AA could be scripted to open automatically. There is a home stack (it's the license stack), but it's locked

Re: URL Keyword writing to server

2003-01-27 Thread Jeanne A. E. DeVoto
At 5:21 AM -0800 1/24/03, sjoel wrote: put field Results into URL http://quest.computing.dundee.ac.uk/frr/test.txt; Please can someone explain why this doesn't work, and what alternatives I can try? Most web servers aren't set up to allow uploading via HTTP. So it's probably nothing you're doing

Politics on the list

2003-01-27 Thread Heather Williams
And here I was, hoping that list mom hat could stay on the shelf for a further six months. Ladies and Gentlemen. Do not post political remarks to this list. We all have views, some more strongly held than others. We are all entitled to our views. We are all entitled to express our views. BUT

Revolution

2003-01-27 Thread Bradley Borch
Steve, Hope you don't mind, I came across your posting in the Rev list. I'm a longtime multimedia developer, sick of MM Dir and thinking about other tools, looking at LiveStage Pro, iShell, and Rev. If you don't mind, could you give me your thoughts? Regards, Bradley S. Borch Activa Digital

[OT Re: Serendipity Library Update 20030123

2003-01-27 Thread Wolfgang M. Bereuter
On Montag, Jänner 27, 2003, at 09:14 Uhr, Richard Gaskin wrote: Emotions run high when we lose 3,000 lives in under an hour --- If the issue is saving USlives..? Why not save *EVERY* year about 6000 lives, simply changing the weapon laws...? About 9000 US citizens - not all can be saved off

Re: [OT Re: Serendipity Library Update 20030123

2003-01-27 Thread Richard Gaskin
I have responded to Wolfgang in private email. Please, while all of us around the world may be nervous, we need to keep a cool head on this list. Sorry if I fanned any flames. My intention was the opposite. Code anyone? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation Developer of

Displaying an .aif file as a Waveform

2003-01-27 Thread Malte Brill
Hello list, perhaps someone of you can help me. I want to display the waveform of an .aif file. The routine does not need to be fast. It is not necessary, that I can display the waveform in realtime. Does anybody know where I can find the specs for .aiffiles? Is it something like -header

Re: Displaying an .aif file as a Waveform

2003-01-27 Thread Richard Gaskin
Malte Brill wrote: I want to display the waveform of an .aif file. The routine does not need to be fast. It is not necessary, that I can display the waveform in realtime. Does anybody know where I can find the specs for .aiffiles? Searching at Google for aiff specification brings up this PDF

Material breech

2003-01-27 Thread Jim Hurley
Message: 8 Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 00:14:43 -0800 Subject: Re: Serendipity Library Update 20030123 From: Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Freedom's just an other word for nothin' left to lose Kris Kristofferson just having musical

My Master's thesis in Semantics

2003-01-27 Thread Mathewson
Yes.cognitive semantics and prototypicality theory! Any one giving feedback on what they understand by middle and mid, especially when refering to the release of Runtime revolution 2 would be gratefully received. Richmond Mathewson

A Whole CD-ROM developed using the starter kit !!!

2003-01-27 Thread Mathewson
AT LAST: http://www.articulatemusic.com/music_terms.html over six months I developed this whole thing using the starter kit alone. Richmond Mathewson --- Great Macintosh Products The MacLaunch Store!

Re: Handler won't execute from card or stack script

2003-01-27 Thread Dave LeYanna
At 07:09 AM 1/27/03 +, you wrote: At Sunday 26/01/2003 12:08 -0700, you wrote: On Sunday, January 26, 2003, at 10:02 AM, Ian McKnight (MM) wrote: The handler has two parameters and is called from a mouseup handler in a button script. When the handler is placed in the button script along

Re: A Whole CD-ROM developed using the starter kit !!!

2003-01-27 Thread Mark Swindell
on 1/27/03 5:47 AM, Mathewson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AT LAST: http://www.articulatemusic.com/music_terms.html over six months I developed this whole thing using the starter kit alone. Richmond Mathewson --- Great

Swindell's sense of humour

2003-01-27 Thread Mathewson
I'm very interested in using your product as a basis for a commercial enterprise of my own, but was wondering if perhaps you offered a free starter CD with all the material of your commercial CD available on it... something that I could work around to produce my own product? Thanks for your help,

Building MacOS X apps in Rev 1.1.1r2

2003-01-27 Thread Ben Rubinstein
When I build a distribution from Rev 1.1.1r2 on Jaguar 10.2.3, for MacOS X, I get a single file with a Revolution document icon, which the Finder identifies as a Classic Application, although when launched it is clearly not a Classic app. Ken Ray's tip (thanks Ken!) Setting Document Associations

All about plugin

2003-01-27 Thread Jim Hurley
erik hansen wrote: anyway, it would be nice to know if there is something like the HC Home stack where a startup handler fires when the Rev app is clicked. then AA could be scripted to open automatically. Jeanne DeVoto Wrote: There is a home stack (it's the license stack), but it's locked

Re: All about plugin

2003-01-27 Thread Dave LeYanna
I am really looking forward to this thread. Thanks for starting it Jim. djl At 08:27 AM 1/27/03 -0800, you wrote: erik hansen wrote: anyway, it would be nice to know if there is something like the HC Home stack where a startup handler fires when the Rev app is clicked. then AA could be

Re: Building MacOS X apps in Rev 1.1.1r2

2003-01-27 Thread sims
Ken Ray's tip (thanks Ken!) Setting Document Associations With OS X http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/metacard/tips/file005.htm clearly assumes that you are building apps which are packages. This tip was originally posted last July, so I'm assuming that it doesn't relate to the next version of

Re: Serendipity Library Update 20030123 [OT]

2003-01-27 Thread Rob Cozens
Hi All, Just a note to let you know I'm not reading my mail for several hours at least. I cannot afford to become obsessed with an issue over which I have so little influence; so I need to concentrate on programming until it's out of my head and I can revisit it fresh. I don't believe the

Creating Using a Custom Cursor?

2003-01-27 Thread Barry Levine
I need to set the cursor to a custom image and keep it persistent. How do I do this? Here is what I've tried so far: I used iDraw to create a 16x16 image and saved it as a .png with transparency. Then I created an image object within Rev, set it to 16x16, and set the reference to the image I

Re: problem with popup menu buttons

2003-01-27 Thread manuel companys
Le Sunday, 26 Jan 2003, à 12:23 US/Central, Ken Ray a écrit : If you're using an option menu button (which will automatically display its label based on the selection you make), you can set the menuHistory of the button to a number indicating the line of text in the button's menu that you

Re: RevDB

2003-01-27 Thread Yennie
Hi, This is what I'm using... and it works ok. I guess it just seems to me that there should be a way to fetch a particular row from the results of a query without having to process the entire record set as text in MetaTalk. I'm just confounded by the cursor API, but maybe I'm missing

OT--Material breech

2003-01-27 Thread Jim Hurley
My apologies to the group. My Material breech message was intended for Richard's eyes only. I was interrupted during its construction and neglected to change the address. Trying, unsuccessfully, to abide by list etiquette, Jim ___ use-revolution

Re: RevDB

2003-01-27 Thread Dave LeYanna
Might it have something to do with SQL not really having a native concept of rows? SQL is a Query system not a database management system. SQL can be used against an Object Oriented database system even, which is somewhat different than the column,row,table paradigm we are used to when we

Re: OT--Material breech

2003-01-27 Thread Dave LeYanna
I hope that everyone continues to be forgiving as you try to extract yourself from this vbg! djl At 09:57 AM 1/27/03 -0800, you wrote: My apologies to the group. My Material breech message was intended for Richard's eyes only. I was interrupted during its construction and neglected to change

Re: No scroll wheel (newbie stuff)?

2003-01-27 Thread Ken Norris (dialup)
** Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 20:18:20 -0800 Subject: Re: No scroll wheel (newbie stuff)? From: Scott Rossi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Recently, Ken Norris (dialup) wrote: I haven't been able to get my mouse scroll wheel to work with the vertical scrollbars. Is there a way to implement that?

Way to determine if button is pressed in browser

2003-01-27 Thread RGould8
I've been asked to see if it's possible to write a Revolution app that reacts when a button in pressed on a web-page within Internet Explorer. This Rev app would be running the same time that Internet Explorer is running and would just be "sniffing" the browser to see if the user pressed a button

Re: No scroll wheel (newbie stuff)?

2003-01-27 Thread Alex Rice
On Monday, January 27, 2003, at 11:24 AM, Ken Norris (dialup) wrote: ??? Are you saying RR vertical scrollbars do not support scrollwheels? I figured the Mac versions would support mouse scrollwheels through the OS and ordinary drivers, same PC's with Windows, just like virtually all other

Stack positioning

2003-01-27 Thread Feasey, Nicholas
I want to open two different card within two separate stacks. However, I want the card in the first stack window to remain underneatch the second stack that I open. I used: go to stack FirstStack go to stack SecondStack but I see the first stack when it opens. I have tried: go invisible to

Stack window positioning.

2003-01-27 Thread Feasey, Nicholas
I want to open two different cards within two separate stacks. However, I want the card in the first stack window to remain underneatch the second stack that I open. I used: go to stack FirstStack go to stack SecondStack but I see the first stack when it opens. I have tried: go invisible to

Ooops - double post

2003-01-27 Thread Feasey, Nicholas
My apologies for the double post as I had thought that I had entered the incorrect lists address. N ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution

Re: No scroll wheel (newbie stuff)?

2003-01-27 Thread Scott Rossi
Recently, Ken Norris (dialup) wrote: I haven't been able to get my mouse scroll wheel to work with the vertical scrollbars. Is there a way to implement that? You should search the archives but I *believe* the solution is to trap whatever value is passed in rawKeyDown. -- ??? Are

RE: Way to determine if button is pressed in browser

2003-01-27 Thread Gary Rathbone
You could use sockets in Rev to 'listen' to requests on say port 81. In the page the Javascript could refer to 127.0.0.1:81 which is port 81 on the local machine. Rev could then parse any arguments and act accordingly. I've done it this way for a couple of projects and it works fine. Regards Gary

Re: Way to determine if button is pressed in browser

2003-01-27 Thread Scott Rossi
Recently, Gary Rathbone wrote: I've been asked to see if it's possible to write a Revolution app that reacts when a button in pressed on a web-page within Internet Explorer. This Rev app would be running the same time that Internet Explorer is running and would just be sniffing the browser

Re: A Whole CD-ROM developed using the starter kit !!!

2003-01-27 Thread Alex Rice
Why the starter kit? Are you going to purchase RunRev with proceeds from this app? On Monday, January 27, 2003, at 06:47 AM, Mathewson wrote: AT LAST: http://www.articulatemusic.com/music_terms.html over six months I developed this whole thing using the starter kit alone. Alex Rice,

Re: No scroll wheel (newbie stuff)?

2003-01-27 Thread Alex Rice
On Monday, January 27, 2003, at 01:34 PM, Scott Rossi wrote: Nope, definitely not Windows only. Might have to do with the version of underlying MetaCard engine. I'm using MC 2.4.3 -- not sure which MC version Rev 1.1.1 is based on. Yep, that's probably it. Rev 1.1.1 is from an earlier MC

Re: RevDB

2003-01-27 Thread Dave LeYanna
At 03:20 PM 1/27/03 -0500, you wrote: This is all well and good, but every database that RevDB supports does have rows. Not necessarily true? Rev supports all systems that have an ODBC driver. That would include the OODBs that I mentioned. You do, however have a significant point. Perhaps someone

Re: RevDB

2003-01-27 Thread Richard Gaskin
Alex Rice wrote: Sorry, maybe I misunderstood. The client-side concept of rows, that is: rows of the query result set, I think is implemented by revdb's concept of cursors. see the revdb_move*, revdb_cursor*, revdb_query. It's not specific to Rev: the term is an abbreviation of CURrent

Re: RevDB

2003-01-27 Thread Tuviah M Snyder
This is what I'm using... and it works ok. I guess it just seems to me that there should be a way to fetch a particular= row from the results of a query without having to process the entire record=20 set as text in MetaTalk.=20 would I want to be able to fetch columns from the cursor but never

Re: Way to determine if button is pressed in browser

2003-01-27 Thread Ken Ray
Well, if you set up Rev as a CGI on a server, the web page could tell the CGI that a button was pressed. If a local Rev app needed to know, it could be polling a particular spot on the server for the existence of a file, and the CGI could write that file. You'd get a delay between the click on the

Re: Way to determine if button is pressed in browser

2003-01-27 Thread Ken Ray
I've been asked to see if it's possible to write a Revolution app that reacts when a button in pressed on a web-page within Internet Explorer. This Rev app would be running the same time that Internet Explorer is running and would just be sniffing the browser to see if the user pressed a

Re: No scroll wheel (newbie stuff)?

2003-01-27 Thread Ken Ray
I'm seeing no scrollwheel support in Rev 1.1.1 on OS X. Maybe it is Windows-only? Nope, definitely not Windows only. Might have to do with the version of underlying MetaCard engine. I'm using MC 2.4.3 -- not sure which MC version Rev 1.1.1 is based on. It's based on 2.4.1, I believe.

Re: Serendipity Library Update 20030123

2003-01-27 Thread Judy Perry
Stupidity doesn't have an upper-limit @;-P Judy On Sun, 26 Jan 2003, erik hansen wrote: Kris Kristofferson ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution

RE: Way to determine if button is pressed in browser

2003-01-27 Thread Gary Rathbone
Ok, I've stripped out my 'extra' bits for simplicity, so here goes... I've got a stack with a single button 'Start' and a field 'tfld'. In the start button the script is... on mouseup put into fld tfld --kill any existing sockets (can be

RE: Way to determine if button is pressed in browser

2003-01-27 Thread Chipp Walters
We've a browser control (altBrowser.dll) which is embedded into RR as an object. It can do what you're looking for. Only problem is, it only works with RR2.0 and the latest MC engine. It can be instatiated to run either IE or Mozilla and of course control all aspects of the browser. Tuviah wrote

Re: No scroll wheel (newbie stuff)?

2003-01-27 Thread Ken Norris (dialup)
Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 11:56:12 -0700 Subject: Re: No scroll wheel (newbie stuff)? From: Alex Rice [EMAIL PROTECTED] I was thinking scrollwheel support would be native to RR I agree it should be added, because I use a scrollwheel too. However I wouldn't take it for granted that virtually

Re: Material breech

2003-01-27 Thread erik hansen
alter the course of history by introducing the principle of preemption... cool! what next? Jesus is coming and you will burn... The Sacred White Race is in danger... Flying saucers have landed... these issues are of overwhelming importance to somebody. shouldn't they be heard on the list as

Re: Politics on the list

2003-01-27 Thread erik hansen
--- Heather Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And here I was, hoping that list mom hat could stay on the shelf for a further six months. Ladies and Gentlemen. Do not post political remarks to this list. We all have views, some more strongly held than others. We are all entitled to

Re: No scroll wheel (newbie stuff)?

2003-01-27 Thread Alex Rice
On Monday, January 27, 2003, at 05:42 PM, Ken Norris (dialup) wrote: I think scrollwheels have been around too long to be considered new hardware. Maybe time is passing too slowly for me today ;+) Yeah-- I think once one has an optical mouse with scroll-wheel, it's easy to forget how bad

Re: RevDB

2003-01-27 Thread Yennie
Not necessarily true? Rev supports all systems that have an ODBC driver. That would include the OODBs that I mentioned. You are correct- I overlooked the ODBC connectivity when I made that comment. Sorry, maybe I misunderstood. The client-side concept of rows, that is: rows of the query result

Re: Politics on the list

2003-01-27 Thread erik hansen
--- Heather Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And here I was, hoping that list mom hat could stay on the shelf for a further six months. Ladies and Gentlemen. Do not post political remarks to this list. We all have views, some more strongly held than others. We are all entitled to

Re: No scroll wheel (newbie stuff)?

2003-01-27 Thread Ken Norris (dialup)
** Hello fellow scripters: Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 13:38:50 -0700 Subject: Re: No scroll wheel (newbie stuff)? From: Alex Rice [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Monday, January 27, 2003, at 01:34 PM, Scott Rossi wrote: Nope, definitely not Windows only. Might have to do with the version of

Re: No scroll wheel (newbie stuff)?

2003-01-27 Thread Scott Raney
On Mon, 27 Jan 2003 Ken Norris (dialup) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't say I agree with the reference. I think it (scrollwheel support) is a staple these days. I mean, so much work has gone into other smaller stuff that could be worked around, I guess I was just shocked that it wasn't

upper limit for script contents?

2003-01-27 Thread erik hansen
is there an upper limit for script contents? are there any possible concerns when you have 100,000 chars in one script? TIA = [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.erikhansen.org __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up

RE: Way to determine if button is pressed in browser

2003-01-27 Thread Dave LeYanna
Thanks for your generous help. djl At 10:52 PM 1/27/03 +, you wrote: Ok, I've stripped out my 'extra' bits for simplicity, so here goes... I've got a stack with a single button 'Start' and a field 'tfld'. In the start button the script is...

problems selecting a list field

2003-01-27 Thread Björnke von Gierke
I have several list fields (traversal on, lock text, list behaviour, visible, enabled) when the field contains at least one line of text, then there is no problem. BUT when there is no line in that field I get the following enerving behaviour: -the field receives no mouse events (enter, leave,

Re: RevDB

2003-01-27 Thread Dave LeYanna
At 07:34 PM 1/27/03 -0500, you wrote: CLIP I'm not sure why we are discussing the various implementations of rows in Oracle, ODBC, etc. Not all database implementations necessarily have rows? Then why is there a revdb_querylist() function whose entire purpose is to fetch *all* of the rows? This

Re: Exporting Vector Graphics

2003-01-27 Thread Alejandro Tejada
on Sat, 25 Jan 2003 15:35:00 2003 Ken Ray wrote: Sounds great, Alejandro! Thanks for your work on this! You are welcome, Ken! on Sat, 25 Jan 2003 08:30:16 -0800 Jim Hurley wrote: Does finishing version 04 of EPS Import imply anything about the existence of an EPS export? Of course, Jim.

RE: Way to determine if button is pressed in browser

2003-01-27 Thread Monte Goulding
I have to say WOW and WOW to the last two posts on this thread. I believe the golden age of third party Rev tools is now upon us! Fasten your seatbelts everyone ;-) Monte ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: Way to determine if button is pressed in browser

2003-01-27 Thread Tuviah M Snyder
Tuviah wrote most the code, and we added a bit here and there. I built a skinnable RR app around it LEO as well, which acts like a browser. Chipp this made my day:-) It's great to see what you've done with it! Let's hope that Apple comes out with a descent SDK for Safari. Tuviah Snyder [EMAIL

Re: To grab or not to grab

2003-01-27 Thread Matt Denton
Hello List (again), Here is a quick sample script and recipe of what I'm trying to do (mouseLoc isn't accurate, just for this tiny demo). Create a graphic box paste script (see below) into it. Now, group box and size up the group corners to larger than box. Try dragging the graphic box,

RE: To grab or not to grab

2003-01-27 Thread Monte Goulding
Hi Matt Set the locLocation of the group to true Cheers Monte ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution

Re: upper limit for script contents?

2003-01-27 Thread Dar Scott
On Monday, January 27, 2003, at 06:18 PM, erik hansen wrote: is there an upper limit for script contents? are there any possible concerns when you have 100,000 chars in one script? There is some info in the docs on this. Development Guide -- The System Environment - References - Memory

Re: upper limit for script contents?

2003-01-27 Thread erik hansen
--- Dar Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday, January 27, 2003, at 06:18 PM, erik hansen wrote: is there an upper limit for script contents? are there any possible concerns when you have 100,000 chars in one script? There is some info in the docs on this. Development Guide --