RE: If this is a feature, it's a nasty one.

2003-03-18 Thread Ken Norris
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 20:39:08 -0500 From: Victor Eijkhout [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: If this is a feature, it's a nasty one. (and I still don't know how to cut/paste from the documentation; is that possible?) -- Option/drag puts any text in the docs into the

Stuck in Background window

2003-03-18 Thread Ken Norris
Well here I go again. This thing keeps ending up in the stack's background window instead of the card window. on mouseUp set the defaultFolder to Doggies answer file empty with filter JPEGs,*.jpg lock screen import paint from file it set itemDel to / cut image (last item of it)

Math question: How to compute the area of polygons

2003-03-18 Thread Malte Brill
Hi List, this one goes out to the math experts. How does one compute the area ( I hope it is the correct Term for flaecheninhalt in german) of a polygon with n sides. (That would get me started.) I want to extract all lines of 2 polygons by analysing their points, evaluate the area of each of

Scripted musical notation available

2003-03-18 Thread Luigi Di Martino
Hi I've just joined the list and it was mainly, for now anyway, because of this question about Midi. I was wondering if you could answer for me if it is possible to map a midi note to another midi note. For example, can a scale be represented as midi numbers, like 64 66 68 69 etc,

Math question: How to compute the area of polygons [OT]

2003-03-18 Thread Malte Brill
Hi list, I hope you don´t mind this silly off topic post, but sometimes it is quite teasing not being a native speaker. Any help will be greatly apprecheated! *Lol* Sorry, I mean appreciated. I don´t want to cheat you afterwards, really! (apres cheated haha.) Think I´m getting nuts with all

Re: If this is a feature, it's a nasty one.

2003-03-18 Thread wouter
Bug or feature? or: Don't I love the mechanics of expansion * From: Victor Eijkhout * Subject: Bug or feature? or: Don't I love the mechanics of expansion * Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 17:42:18 -0800 This bug took me an hour or two to find. I don't think I like it. on tt arg put arg end

Scripted musical notation available

2003-03-18 Thread Kurt Kaufman
I was wondering if you could answer for me if = it is possible to map a midi note to another midi note. For example, can = a scale be represented as midi numbers, like 64 66 68 69 etc, signifying = C D E F, and then to map that to 70 72 73 as the output, for example? So = an input note (the key

Re: OS X answer file

2003-03-18 Thread Kevin Miller
On 18/3/03 7:59 am, Alex Rice [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If Rev were to try to accommodate, and I think it should, (every time I check out a .rev file out my version control system, it's creator code gets stripped, and it's not available in Rev's open dialog) Here is a good model to follow:

Re: Scripted musical notation available

2003-03-18 Thread Luigi Di Martino
Hi Kurt Thanks ever so much for your explanation. Your last paragraph especially has made my mind up to go get the Revolution 2.0. I will download the beta version and wait for any other releases. My goal is to build an application for messing around with midi, where I can map one chord, say,

Importing Mainstacks ?

2003-03-18 Thread Mathewson
Does anybody know if it is possible to import a mainstack as a substack of another mainstack? Probably this question has been asked many times before.. It would save a lot of work. Richmond Mathewson --- Great Macintosh

Way to put PPPoE status in menubar?

2003-03-18 Thread RGould8
I'm trying to figure out how to get Revolution to put the PPPoE status in the menubar in Mac OS X. (Basically mimicing what happens if the user were to check the "show PPP status in menubar" checkbox in the networking pane). After digging around in the web for a bit, I read that this will do the

Flash/QTdebug/ActiveX

2003-03-18 Thread Bradley Borch
Somebody responded earlier regarding getting Flash to talk to Rev. Apparently there's a QTdebug hook built for LSP users. Flash documentation also mentions communicating to host apps via ActiveX. Sorry for the ignorance, but is there some documentation that discusses how these layers work

Rev and mySQL

2003-03-18 Thread Chris Sheffield
Does anyone have a good example of using Revolution with a mySQL database? I'm looking specifically for something that uses embedded mySQL because we'd like the database to be as transparent as possible. We don't want to require that users start up a database server anytime they want to run our

RE: OS X answer file

2003-03-18 Thread Ken Ray
Yes, I've noticed that periodically. It isn't consistent in my experience, but it's damn annoying. There were are a lot of debates about this on cocoa-dev and macosx-dev and such mailing lists. I think Apple's concept of how to deal with file-to-application bindings was evolving

RE: Importing Mainstacks ?

2003-03-18 Thread Ken Ray
If you're trying to end up with substacks that have their own substacks, I'm sorry, but you're SOL; substacks can't have substacks. If you try to do make a mainstack with substacks as a substack of another mainstack, you will most likely get it flattened (i.e. both the mainstack you're importing

RE: Way to put PPPoE status in menubar?

2003-03-18 Thread Ken Ray
Title: Message You can do it this way with Rev 2: on mouseUp set the hideConsoleWindows to true get shell("open " quote "/System/Library/CoreServices/Menu Extras/PPPoE.menu" quote) end mouseUp Works for me in 10.2.4, Ken RaySons of Thunder SoftwareEmail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Web

RE: Card size on the PC

2003-03-18 Thread Jim Hurley
Jim Hurley wrote: I have discovered that the height of my cards on my PC are limited to 617. These are stacks created on my Mac where they were the card heights were 650 or larger. I'm afraid I am in alien territory here on the PC. Is there some constraint on card size on the PC? I see

Re: Supercard vs. Rev

2003-03-18 Thread Jim Hurley
As many have said, there is one positive aspects to the variety of xCard application and that is the variety of features available. SuperCard remains valuable to me for its ability to export vector graphics, something not yet available in MC or RR due to cross-platform issues. But my fingers

Re: Stuck in Background window

2003-03-18 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 3/17/03 11:28 PM, Ken Norris wrote: Well here I go again. This thing keeps ending up in the stack's background window instead of the card window. on mouseUp set the defaultFolder to Doggies answer file empty with filter JPEGs,*.jpg lock screen import paint from file it set itemDel to

Re: Way to put PPPoE status in menubar?

2003-03-18 Thread RGould8
Thanks! This is just what I'm looking for, except one thing - - - since this is for a commercial application, I can't use the beta of Rev 2. If I can just get this working in Applescript, then I can get this working in Rev 1.1.1 with the Applescript PowerAdd-ons OSAX to make calls to the unix

Re: Math question: How to compute the area of polygons

2003-03-18 Thread Dar Scott
On Tuesday, March 18, 2003, at 02:06 AM, Malte Brill wrote: I want to extract all lines of 2 polygons by analysing their points, evaluate the area of each of them with some magic formula I don´t know ;-) Figure out how to get the area of a triangle. Then come up with a way to methodically

RE: Way to put PPPoE status in menubar?

2003-03-18 Thread Ken Ray
You need to put quotes around the file path because Menu Extras is two words. You'll notice I did that in the Rev code; you'll need to do that in the AppleScript code instead. (Oh, and one last thing... I just noticed your posts and my reply was in HTML - I've converted this response to plain

Re: Replacing group images [OT]

2003-03-18 Thread Ken Norris
** Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 23:16:14 -0800 (PST) From: Jan Schenkel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Replacing group images [OT] Hi Ken, My my, a blue screen at startup... That will inspire confidence in your application. *grin* Are you sure you want people auto-moving towards the

Re: Supercard vs. Rev

2003-03-18 Thread Richard Gaskin
Jim Hurley wrote: SuperCard remains valuable to me for its ability to export vector graphics, something not yet available in MC or RR due to cross-platform issues. But my fingers are crossed. Have you seen the SVG Exporter for Rev? You'll find it in the Stacks listing in RevNet. It's jus a

Re: Flash/QTdebug/ActiveX

2003-03-18 Thread Scott Rossi
As I've said before, I'd be excited about using Rev if I could imbed Flash files for animation and interfaces. If I'm the only one interested in this I'll shut up and lurk ;-] I don't think you're the only one interested, I think there's simply the problem of reliability. As far as I know,

Re: OS X answer file

2003-03-18 Thread Alex Rice
On Tuesday, March 18, 2003, at 06:47 AM, Kevin Miller wrote: Saving the stack will restore the creator type. You can bypass the File menu problem in 2.0 by holding down the option key when choosing open. We're looking at a way to allow handling both the .rev extension and the file type

Math question: How to compute the area of polygons

2003-03-18 Thread Jim Hurley
P.S. Malte, One caveat. The algorithm in my previous message assumes the polygon is simply connected--all points accessible without crossing the boundary. It calculates the area of a polygon transversed in the counter-clockwise sense as positive, and negative if transversed in the clockwise

Re: Stuck in Background window

2003-03-18 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 3/18/03 11:13 AM, Ken Norris wrote: All I want to do is be able to _replace_ a background group image with another image from a file, under script control. I think you are making it too hard. You don't need all that background editing business. This works for me: get

RE: Launch Command

2003-03-18 Thread Ken Ray
Again, thanks to all for your help in this problem. When I try answer fileTextEdit; put it or answer fileTextEdit.app; put it, I get the Pick window with the Desktop hilited. First of all, it's not: answer fileTextEdit OR answer fileTextEdit.app; put it it's: answer file

Re: Replacing group images (was Standalone UI's, data stacks, image files)

2003-03-18 Thread Klaus Major
Hi Ken, in addition to my last mail here some suggestions that will might make edit background... obsolete during runtime... The image myImage should already be part of the group MyImageGroup even if it is still empty. That way you can use my script to put urlbinfile:... to get a new image.

Re: Rev and mySQL

2003-03-18 Thread Chris Sheffield
Alex, Thanks for responding. I have looked into Valentina as well. I've tried getting it to work and can't. I've tried just doing a simple test to see if I can connect to a Valentina database, but the functions are failing. I'm thinking that Rev is not finding the external as it should be.

Re: Stuck in Background window

2003-03-18 Thread Dave Cragg
At 12:13 pm -0500 18/3/03, Ken Norris wrote: All I want to do is be able to _replace_ a background group image with another image from a file, under script control. If this is really all you want to do ... Assumption: you already have your group which contains an image named myImage. (And there

Replacing file images in background groups

2003-03-18 Thread Ken Norris
Howdy, Still trying. Why doesn't this work (nothing happens)? on mouseUp set the defaultFolder to Doggies set itemDel to / answer file empty with filter JPEGs,*.jpg lock screen delete image bluescreen in background myImageGroup create image (last item of it) in background

Re: Stuck in Background window

2003-03-18 Thread Ken Norris
What I end up with _every time_ is a window in the place of the stack window with a titlebar that says: [ Practice1(backgroundmyIma... ] In the Rev UI, I can make it go away by clicking Practice1 in the Window menu, which is ALREADY checked. This brings back my stack window in

Re: Math question: How to compute the area of polygons

2003-03-18 Thread miscdas
Message: 6 Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 10:06:57 +0100 Subject: Math question: How to compute the area of polygons From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Malte Brill) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi List, this one goes out to the math experts. How does one compute the area ( I hope it is the

RE: Launch Command

2003-03-18 Thread sims
If I navigate back to the Applications folder in this Pick window, none of the applications are clickable, i.e. they are dimmed! Try this: do choose file as applescript put the result Then fiddle with the result as needed. atb sims --

Re: use-revolution digest, Vol 1 #1216 - 14 msgs

2003-03-18 Thread Roger Guay
First of all, it's not: answer fileTextEdit OR answer fileTextEdit.app; put it it's: answer file TextEdit;put it are you concatenating this? I'm using answer file TextEdit;put it I am not concatenating it. It results in the Pick window with no

RE: OS X answer file

2003-03-18 Thread Monte Goulding
Saving the stack will restore the creator type. You can bypass the File menu problem in 2.0 by holding down the option key when choosing open. We're looking at a way to allow handling both the .rev extension and the file type together in that dialog, but I don't know for sure if it

Re: Importing Mainstacks ?

2003-03-18 Thread Sarah
Yes. First backup both stack files, just in case :-) Open both stack files and then set the mainStack of the one you want to move to the mainStack of the other file. e.g. Suppose you have 2 files: one has stacks Main1, Sub1, Sub2 and the other just has Main2. Open both files and bring the Main2

Re: Stuck in Background window

2003-03-18 Thread Ken Norris
** Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 14:48:12 -0600 From: J. Landman Gay [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: HyperActive Software Subject: Re: Stuck in Background window Use this syntax eactly: stop editing bg myImageGroup -- Nope. Here it is with the change: on mouseUp set the

Re: Math question: How to compute the area of polygons

2003-03-18 Thread Robert Presender
Hi, The following is copied from Mathematical Tables from Hand Book of Chemistry and Physics. The area of a regular polygon with n sides of length l = 1/4n(l squared) (cot 180/n) The area of a circumscribed polygon = n(r squared)tan(pi/n) where pi = 3.14 and r = the radius of the

ext_sayString (somewhat OT)

2003-03-18 Thread curry
Does anyone know if the text-to-speech voices can be manipulated with in-line commands the way it was possible to do so under Mac OS 9 and 10.0.x? That kind of scared me, knowing how Apple yanks out things recklessly--but looks like no need to worry, try it in Rev with the ext_saystring--it

Finally, that's it!!!! (was [Stuck in Background window] andrelated)

2003-03-18 Thread Ken Norris
*** Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 14:56:05 -0600 From: J. Landman Gay [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: HyperActive Software Subject: Re: Stuck in Background window On 3/18/03 11:13 AM, Ken Norris wrote: All I want to do is be able to _replace_ a background group image with another image

Re: Scripted musical notation available

2003-03-18 Thread erik hansen
--- Luigi Di Martino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Kurt Thanks ever so much for your explanation. Your last paragraph especially has made my mind up to go get the Revolution 2.0. Lui try this: http://www.shopperturnpike.com/usefulsoftware/midi_format.html this table shows the structure of

Re: Replacing group images (was Standalone UI's, data stacks,image

2003-03-18 Thread Ken Norris
** Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 21:47:22 +0100 Subject: Re: Replacing group images (was Standalone UI's, data stacks, image files) From: Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] Imported image and not referenced? --- Sure. It doen't matter because it goes into a standalone in the end.

Re: Finally That's it!!! (Replacing group images, etc.)

2003-03-18 Thread Ken Norris
MEGA-THANKS everyone for your help (John, Klaus, Cubist, et al, and especially Jacque). I knew there had to be an easy answer. Now that I have the basic answer I can move on to where it will actually be used. Whew! Once I set the image in the right layer of my concept stack, this is what worked

Re: Stuck in Background window

2003-03-18 Thread Ken Norris
*** Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 21:06:36 + From: Dave Cragg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Stuck in Background window At 12:13 pm -0500 18/3/03, Ken Norris wrote: All I want to do is be able to _replace_ a background group image with another image from a file, under script

Re: Finally, that's it!!!! (was [Stuck in Background window] andrelated)

2003-03-18 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 3/18/03 2:23 PM, Ken Norris wrote: I don't understand the concept of binfile. Why must I use that ? It's short for binary file, which is what images are. File is for plain text files only. Other kinds of files are binaries. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Finally, that's it!!!! (was [Stuck in Background window]and related)

2003-03-18 Thread Rob Cozens
I don't understand the concept of binfile. Why must I use that ? It's short for binary file, which is what images are. File is for plain text files only. Other kinds of files are binaries. One further distinction: reading a text file as file automatically converts line endings for the specific

Re: Flash/QTdebug/ActiveX

2003-03-18 Thread Trevor DeVore
On Tuesday, March 18, 2003, at 02:43 PM, Scott Rossi wrote: As I've said before, I'd be excited about using Rev if I could imbed Flash files for animation and interfaces. If I'm the only one interested in this I'll shut up and lurk ;-] I don't think you're the only one interested, I think

Re: Flash/QTdebug/ActiveX

2003-03-18 Thread Trevor DeVore
On Tuesday, March 18, 2003, at 09:47 AM, Bradley Borch wrote: Somebody responded earlier regarding getting Flash to talk to Rev. Apparently there's a QTdebug hook built for LSP users. Flash documentation also mentions communicating to host apps via ActiveX. Sorry for the ignorance, but is

Re: Finally, that's it!!!!

2003-03-18 Thread Ken Norris
** Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 17:49:14 -0600 From: J. Landman Gay [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: HyperActive Software Subject: Re: Finally, that's it (was [Stuck in Background window] and related) It's short for binary file, which is what images are. File is for plain text files

Re: Finally, that's it!!!!

2003-03-18 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 3/18/03 5:44 PM, Ken Norris wrote: It's short for binary file, which is what images are. File is for plain text files only. Other kinds of files are binaries. -- OK, so, movies and sound files too, right? That involves the other feedback options I need to bring in. Yes, they are

Re: Launch Command

2003-03-18 Thread Roger Guay
On Tuesday, March 18, 2003, at 05:56 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: do choose file as applescript put the result Ok, At least I can get the result: Macintosh HD:Applications:TextEdit.app: If I then type: launch Macintosh HD:Applications:TextEdit.app: into the message box, I get

Re: Launch Command

2003-03-18 Thread Sarah
In order to be consistent across all platforms, Revolution uses a slash / as the delimiter for file paths, in your case over-riding the normal Mac colon :. Now that you have located the application, I think the following should work: launch Macintosh HD/Applications/TextEdit.app (Rev 1.1.1)

Shakobox BeatMachine - great fun

2003-03-18 Thread David Kwinter
Today I made a beat machine for revolution, I was inspired while giving Shakobox a look - a wonderful tool, for which I hold high regard. Free to download: http://www.kwinter.ca/BeatMachine.rev It requires you have Shakobox downloaded and OPEN in revolution to run. This was a one-day-effort so