Re: Error 0,0 in Windows Standalone

2004-08-01 Thread Chipp Walters
Have you tried compiling it on a Windows machine? If you don't have a license, perhaps you can post your stack to a server and we can try compiling it for you? Also, when creating a new standalone, make sure and do the following: Create a brand new folder first. Save your standalone to the

Re: Windows Backdrop Blues

2004-08-01 Thread Chipp Walters
Hmmm I was successful in WinXP just putting into the msg: show menubar;show taskbar;set the backdrop to none and hide menubar;hide taskbar;set the backdrop to blue so, perhaps you should try 'reordering' those commands. -Chipp ___ use-revolution mailing

ANN: MoireX 2.0

2004-08-01 Thread MisterX
If you thought RR was lame for graphics, think again... http://www.monsieurx.com/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=160 My new slinky application create Moires like the old Mac screen saver!!! Gorgeous colors and patterns to stare at for hours... And it's free! A PC executable will come

RE: MoireX 2.0

2004-08-01 Thread MisterX
Hi again, I updated the links, Added the executable... Made a couple last changes to the stack regarding the cursor... and a few more tricks ;) cheers Xavier -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of MisterX Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2004 11:23

Windows Icons

2004-08-01 Thread MisterX
I found a really cood icon editor for WindowsXP icons. http://www.snapfiles.com/freeware/gmm/fwicontools.html or http://www.iconcool.net Works fine with RunRev's application building ico formats. Enjoy it... Xavier ___ use-revolution mailing list

Re: Can you make a stack larger than the screen rect under Windows?

2004-08-01 Thread Alex Tweedly
At 22:58 31/07/2004 -0400, Howard Bornstein wrote: I think Howard was talking about the user interactively resizing the window... this is a Windows limitation AFAIK. You can resize it with script, but just not interactively. Yes, that's exactly what I was referring to. So are you confirming

Re: 2.5 cursor change

2004-08-01 Thread Kevin Miller
On 30/7/04 11:38 pm, Marian Petrides [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: RunRev: Please consider going back to the old icon. Thanks. We're not going back to the old hand icon as the default. The new cursors are more modern and are just as clear as cursors in other applications. Please read the read me

Re: Can you make a stack larger than the screen rect under Windows?

2004-08-01 Thread Martin Baxter
At 22:58 31/07/2004 -0400, Howard Bornstein wrote: I think Howard was talking about the user interactively resizing the window... this is a Windows limitation AFAIK. You can resize it with script, but just not interactively. Yes, that's exactly what I was referring to. So are you

Re: Rev Web Solutions?

2004-08-01 Thread Rick Harrison
On Jul 31, 2004, at 2:42 PM, Björnke von Gierke wrote: http://www.hyperactivesw.com/cgitutorial/ http://rodney.buzzword.com/discuss/msgReader$155 http://www.navaching.com/pagem.html http://mitchellonline.pasco.k12.fl.us/training/metacardcgi.htm On Jul 31 2004, at 20:35, Rick Harrison wrote: Hi

Re: Rev Web Solutions?

2004-08-01 Thread Rick Harrison
On Jul 31, 2004, at 4:56 PM, Pierre Sahores wrote: Hi, About how to set up a Revolution applications server binded to PostgreSQL under Mac OS X or Linux, see http://www.google.com/search? as_sitesearch=lists.runrev.comnum=20q=postgresql Pierre, Thanks, I'll check it out! Rick

Re: Can you make a stack larger than the screen rect under Windows?

2004-08-01 Thread Howard Bornstein
The limiting factor is not the screenrect but the windowboundingrect. I checked and you can in fact set the windowboundingrect to be wider than the screen, and this does allow the behaviour that I think you wanted. Martin Baxter YES! Thank you for this little gem! This saves me a lot

Re: 2.5 cursor change

2004-08-01 Thread Marian Petrides
Kevin, Understood. The issue wasn't backward compatibility, the issue was appearance. But this has been abundantly discussed on this list already. While I personally like the suggestion that an option for a grabber hand still be made available, I also understand why you might not want to do

Re: Rev Web Solutions?

2004-08-01 Thread Rick Harrison
Andre, I really, really appreciate your response. It's going to take me a little time to get up to speed on the information. How is libWebServices going to work with the Secure Socket Layer which I hear will be included with Revolution 2.5? Have you done any load testing (several users at once)

Re: Rev Web Solutions?

2004-08-01 Thread Andre Garzia
On Aug 1, 2004, at 12:24 PM, Rick Harrison wrote: How is libWebServices going to work with the Secure Socket Layer which I hear will be included with Revolution 2.5? Rick, I have the 2.5 beta here and I am yet to find info on listening to a secured socket, don't know if this is possible yet...

Re: Rev Web Solutions?

2004-08-01 Thread Troy Rollins
On Aug 1, 2004, at 11:52 AM, Andre Garzia wrote: I have the 2.5 beta here and I am yet to find info on listening to a secured socket, don't know if this is possible yet... From the readme.txt in 2.5b1 - * Support for SSL * SSL is an add on pack in Studio and is included with Enterprise

New England Rev User's Group??

2004-08-01 Thread Marian Petrides
Having just realized that Pam Crossley lives not far from my mountain hermitage, I thought there might be other Rev users up here in the North Woods. Are there any other Rev users in New England? How about in Eastern Upstate NY? Anyone interested in getting a local Rev user's group

Re: Rev Web Solutions?

2004-08-01 Thread Rick Harrison
On Aug 1, 2004, at 11:52 AM, Andre Garzia wrote: The best way for you to work now, is to setup a sandbox for you to play, setup Rev on a web host and play with CGI... by using it you'll fell what you need, you might even end up writing your own lib... :D Cheers andre Andre, Thanks, I'll get

Re: New England Rev User's Group??

2004-08-01 Thread Troy Rollins
On Aug 1, 2004, at 12:22 PM, Marian Petrides wrote: I am located in the Mad River Valley (Waitsfield/Fayston, VT) in north-central Vermont, between Burlington and Montpelier. As her recent post revealed, Pam is in the Upper Valley (Norwich, VT) along the VT-NH border. Not sure if it counts as

Re: use-revolution Digest, Vol 11, Issue 1

2004-08-01 Thread pkc
Many thanks to all for the suggestions. If it helps round out the problem, I can reply to these comments: Troy wrote: I honestly think your executable is just getting munged in the transfer. Create the executable into a new folder, stuff (zip, whatever) the entire folder immediately. Move that

Re: use-revolution Digest, Vol 11, Issue 1

2004-08-01 Thread ambassador
On Sun, 1 Aug 2004 12:39:58 -0400 pkc wrote: I honestly think your executable is just getting munged in the transfer. Create the executable into a new folder, stuff (zip, whatever) the entire folder immediately. Move that to the PC and extract. Hopefully, everything will work properly after

Re: Rev Web Solutions?

2004-08-01 Thread Jan Schenkel
--- Troy Rollins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 1, 2004, at 11:52 AM, Andre Garzia wrote: I have the 2.5 beta here and I am yet to find info on listening to a secured socket, don't know if this is possible yet... From the readme.txt in 2.5b1 - * Support for SSL * SSL is

Re: use-revolution Digest, Vol 11, Issue 1

2004-08-01 Thread Troy Rollins
On Aug 1, 2004, at 12:39 PM, pkc wrote: My program of fixes (now under weigh) is: 1) Rename the current file on the FTP server with a zip suffix. Have unwitting subjects download it and see what happens.Transfer said renamed fake zip via disk and try to open. Probably won't work, but would tell

Re: Rev Web Solutions?

2004-08-01 Thread Troy Rollins
On Aug 1, 2004, at 12:54 PM, Jan Schenkel wrote: Actually, only client-side SSL (open secure socket) is available in Revolution 2.5 ; server-side SSL (accept secure connections) will be available in one of the future revisions. Thanks for that clarification. I hadn't really been thinking too

Re: Rev Web Solutions?

2004-08-01 Thread Andre Garzia
On Aug 1, 2004, at 1:54 PM, Jan Schenkel wrote: Actually, only client-side SSL (open secure socket) is available in Revolution 2.5 ; server-side SSL (accept secure connections) will be available in one of the future revisions. Jan, that sounded like music... I was dreading the day I would listen

More on Pam's PC transfer problem

2004-08-01 Thread Marian Petrides
In an attempt to see if building a standalone using the Win version of the Rev 2.5b1 would solve Pam's problem, I did the following: Downloaded Pam's stack (and the ZIP file version of Rev 2.5 b1) on my Mac. Transferred Pam's file over to PC over my wireless network but the file will not open

Re: More on Pam's PC transfer problem

2004-08-01 Thread Troy Rollins
On Aug 1, 2004, at 1:36 PM, Marian Petrides wrote: I give up. Any other suggestions? This makes NO sense (to my puny little brain anyway)!! I'm not clear about this. Did the stack open in Rev (any version) on the Mac? -- Troy RPSystems, Ltd. http://www.rpsystems.net

RE: Rev Web Solutions?

2004-08-01 Thread Mike Doub
I just thought that I would chime in a positive note about Andre Garzia's work. I am using Andre's httpd and have created a web site that goes off and queries a SQL Server database thru ODBC and renders the data back in a format optimized for handheld devices (ie my blackberry) I have not had

Re: 2.5 cursor change

2004-08-01 Thread Sannyasin Sivakatirswami
How about a black arrow tool for browse mode--and a white arrow tool for pointer mode ala adobe? On Aug 1, 2004, at 1:56 AM, Kevin Miller wrote: On 30/7/04 11:38 pm, Marian Petrides [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: RunRev: Please consider going back to the old icon. Thanks. We're not going back to the

Re: 2.5 cursor change

2004-08-01 Thread Klaus Major
Hi Swami, How about a black arrow tool for browse mode--and a white arrow tool for pointer mode ala adobe? ah, must be a mac user ;-) The windows system cursor is a white arrow and i think on windoze (not tested yet) the EX-hand cursor will be a white arrow...(?) I may be wrong, but i would

Re: 2.5 cursor change

2004-08-01 Thread Troy Rollins
On Aug 1, 2004, at 2:02 PM, Sannyasin Sivakatirswami wrote: How about a black arrow tool for browse mode--and a white arrow tool for pointer mode ala adobe? I think RunRev has a good (maybe even excellent) cursor set in 2.5. Granted, there is some loss of familiarity for long-time users, but new

Re: New England Rev User's Group??

2004-08-01 Thread Howard Bornstein
Woodstock, NY here. -Howard Bornstein ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution

Re: More on Pam's PC transfer problem

2004-08-01 Thread Marian Petrides
Ayup. Opens fine in 2.5b1 on the Mac. Doesn't open in either 2.12 or 2.5b1 on PC, whether it was sent there directly or having been zipped first. On Aug 1, 2004, at 1:50 PM, Troy Rollins wrote: On Aug 1, 2004, at 1:36 PM, Marian Petrides wrote: I give up. Any other suggestions? This makes NO

Re: More on Pam's PC transfer problem

2004-08-01 Thread Mark Wieder
Marian- Sunday, August 1, 2004, 10:36:02 AM, you wrote: MP In an attempt to see if building a standalone using the Win version of MP the Rev 2.5b1 would solve Pam's problem, I did the following: MP Downloaded Pam's stack (and the ZIP file version of Rev 2.5 b1) on my MP Mac. Transferred Pam's

voice mail recording

2004-08-01 Thread Sannyasin Sivakatirswami
Does anyone know what format is used or would be best for voice mail? What is the sound format used in telephony applications/telephone systems It would seem like a very doable thing to record something in Rev and then email the file to someone... Sannyasin Sivakatirswami Himalayan Academy

update on pamela crisis

2004-08-01 Thread pkc
Hello all, a little more to report, and responses: In my last message, I wrote: My program of fixes (now under weigh) is: 1) Rename the current file on the FTP server with a zip suffix. Have unwitting subjects download it and see what happens.Transfer said renamed fake zip via disk and try to

Re: voice mail recording

2004-08-01 Thread Andre Garzia
Sannyasin, The premier PBX app for linux (and *nix) is called asterisk (http://www.asterisk.org) and they are very big, I checked about how they store their voicemail files and found this url that you'll find interesting http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+sound+files it's basically wav

Re: update on pamela crisis

2004-08-01 Thread Andre Garzia
Hi Folks, I am a late guest in this crisis, can someone sumarize it to me so that I can try to help too? andre ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution

Re: More on Pam's PC transfer problem

2004-08-01 Thread Mark Wieder
Marian- I forgot to mention that the Windows binhex decode extension is available at http://www.funduc.com. Look down the page for Decode Shell Extension under Free Software. -- -Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL

Re: update on pamela crisis

2004-08-01 Thread Chipp Walters
Pam, I'm with Ken, try posting your stack on a webserver and we'll take a look at it. -Chipp ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution

Mainstacks and substacks?

2004-08-01 Thread kee nethery
First, my questions are no where near as important as Pamela's, but perhaps they are easier to answer? Question #1: removing a substack from a mainstack I have a mainstack StackB and so that I could use XML when I compile it, I somehow managed to add revSOAP.rev into it. I am able to compile

Re: Mainstacks and substacks?

2004-08-01 Thread Troy Rollins
On Aug 1, 2004, at 5:04 PM, kee nethery wrote: Question #1: removing a substack from a mainstack I have a mainstack StackB and so that I could use XML when I compile it, I somehow managed to add revSOAP.rev into it. I am able to compile StackB and distribute it as a standalone to folks.

Re: update on pamela crisis

2004-08-01 Thread Marian Petrides
Stack works fine on Mac (OS X). Transfer to PC as non-standalone. Won't open on PC (file corrupted). Can load it, therefore can't make standalone out of it. Same thing if zip using drop-zip prior to transfer from Mac to PC. Make into standalone on Mac. Works fine. Make into Win standalone

Re: More on Pam's PC transfer problem

2004-08-01 Thread Marian Petrides
File unpacks OK on PC side just doesn't work once unpacked. Used same version of Zip to port Rev 2.5b1 over and it unpacked and ran fine without bin-hex decode prior. I did look at the zip file with TextEdit and it is all the usual gibberish, no indication that bin-hex is involved (that I can

Re: update on pamela crisis

2004-08-01 Thread Marian Petrides
I'm with Ken, try posting your stack on a webserver and we'll take a look at it. I think Pam has already done this, athough it may only be accessible to us Mac types. Pam wrote: I saved both the stack file and the Windows build directly into my iDisk (maybe there is some spooky formatting on

Re: Rev Web Solutions?

2004-08-01 Thread Hershel Fisch
On Saturday, July 31, 2004, at 04:56 PM, Pierre Sahores wrote: Hi, About how to set up a Revolution applications server binded to PostgreSQL under Mac OS X or Linux, see B1 on Mac os X , doesn't work with postgres. http://www.google.com/ search?as_sitesearch=lists.runrev.comnum=20q=postgresql

More on Xplat Fonts

2004-08-01 Thread Dan Shafer
I was perusing the RealBASIC archives and some other language discussion areas and what I've found is that the problem of xplat fonts is huge and has so far been solved only by Macromedia Director and then only very inefficiently. It is generally illegal to include fonts (those that are

Re: Rev Online

2004-08-01 Thread Hershel Fisch
On Thursday, July 29, 2004, at 03:02 PM, Takaaki Furukawa wrote: Hi Hershel, I'm excited to see Rev Online in 2.5B1. (And I liked EuroRevCon stack by Malte) This is the way WWW should have been in the first place... HTML dragged us back to text-based stone-age computing, but now we're back in

Re: Mainstacks and substacks?

2004-08-01 Thread Klaus Major
Hi Kee, First, my questions are no where near as important as Pamela's, but perhaps they are easier to answer? Question #1: removing a substack from a mainstack I have a mainstack StackB and so that I could use XML when I compile it, I somehow managed to add revSOAP.rev into it. I am able to

Re: Mainstacks and substacks?

2004-08-01 Thread Klaus Major
Hi Kee, short addition to make it absolutely clear! ... Since the user of your app MAY not have write access to the application folder!, i do the following all the time with BIG success :-) Create your stack that you want to be saved later on the users hd... Make it a mainstack! (It can have

Re: use-revolution Digest, Vol 11, Issue 3

2004-08-01 Thread Terry Judd
From: Dan Shafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2 August 2004 8:18:46 AM To: Revolution User List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: More on Xplat Fonts Reply-To: How to use Revolution [EMAIL PROTECTED] I was perusing the RealBASIC archives and some other language discussion areas and what I've found is that

Re: update on pamela crisis

2004-08-01 Thread Andre Garzia
Downloaded the stack from the iDisk. Let me summarize my first testings: 1) I CLICKED ON SUPPRESS MESSAGES! 2) launched pkcdisaster.rev stack 3) Revolution ignored me and sent openStack and preOpenStack. 4) okay, I am prompted to a login, I am a smart brazilian, I tried pkc, hi, I am a student.

Re: update on pamela crisis

2004-08-01 Thread Andre Garzia
Downloaded the stack from the iDisk. Let me summarize my first testings: 1) I CLICKED ON SUPPRESS MESSAGES! 2) launched pkcdisaster.rev stack 3) Revolution ignored me and sent openStack and preOpenStack. 4) okay, I am prompted to a login, I am a smart brazilian, I tried pkc, hi, I am a student.

Pamela crisis update

2004-08-01 Thread pkc
Hello all, thanks to those of you who've written to help. As I said in my last message, I have posted the stack file and the .exe file to my iDisk public folder: pkc (no password). Any comments or hints appreciated. I followed Mark Wieder's advice and opened the stack file with a

Re: Pamela crisis update

2004-08-01 Thread Andre Garzia
Pam, about the dos mode text, that's legacy to prevent DOS users to load your app, thats normal... and a good sign... :D did Rev crashed while you were working with your stack? andre On Aug 1, 2004, at 8:06 PM, pkc wrote: Hello all, thanks to those of you who've written to help. As I said in

Re: update on pamela crisis

2004-08-01 Thread Marian Petrides
That message is exactly the same as what I got when I tried to open the (non-standalone) stack on the PC in 2.1.2 or 2.5b1. M On Aug 1, 2004, at 6:45 PM, Andre Garzia wrote: 7) then the message box said: stack is corrupted, check for ~ backup file. 8) I am stopped waiting further comments from

Re: update on pamela crisis

2004-08-01 Thread Andre Garzia
is there a safe way to move all her codes, cards, and objects to a new stack file there must be something corrupting this one, something evil inside the cracks of the file... andre On Aug 1, 2004, at 8:17 PM, Marian Petrides wrote: That message is exactly the same as what I got when I tried

Re: update on pamela crisis

2004-08-01 Thread Marian Petrides
I thought about that but, if that's the case, why does it work just fine on the Mac? Works OK both in the IDE and as a standalone. But having dealt with corrupt apps before, I know how flaky they can seem, so maybe just creating a new stack, copying each card--card by card--to the new stack,

Re: Rev Web Solutions?

2004-08-01 Thread Pierre Sahores
Le 1 août 04, à 23:32, Hershel Fisch a écrit : On Saturday, July 31, 2004, at 04:56 PM, Pierre Sahores wrote: Hi, About how to set up a Revolution applications server binded to PostgreSQL under Mac OS X or Linux, see B1 on Mac os X , doesn't work with postgres. Take care about the fact that the

Re: 2.5 cursor change

2004-08-01 Thread Wouter
From: Troy Rollins Subject: Re: 2.5 cursor change Date: Sun, 01 Aug 2004 11:23:56 -0700 --snip If you look at the select tool cursor, it is quite distinct. And the browse tool cursor, is just the standard cursor - as it should be unless your app

Re: update on pamela crisis

2004-08-01 Thread Andre Garzia
On Aug 1, 2004, at 8:38 PM, Marian Petrides wrote: I thought about that but, if that's the case, why does it work just fine on the Mac? Works OK both in the IDE and as a standalone. Marian, it's not working on my mac... really... even when I supress messages, it keeps receiving them, and it

Re: update on pamela crisis

2004-08-01 Thread Andre Garzia
if anyone here want's to laugh and check how my Rev is looking, point your browsers to http://homepage.mac.com/soapdog/weird.jpg but I am getting near to the problem, I promise! andre -- Andre Alves Garzia 2004 Soap Dog Studios - BRAZIL http://studio.soapdog.org

Re: 2.5 cursor change

2004-08-01 Thread Ken Norris (dialup)
Hi Trevor, Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 11:46:11 -0700 From: Trevor DeVore [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 2.5 cursor change It seems to me that the arrow cursor is the accepted method of interacting with apps unless over a link. Was the hand something that was used more in OS 9? Well, yes, but

question for pam.

2004-08-01 Thread Andre Garzia
Pam, did you fiddled with the Answer Dialog Stack that comes with Rev and I think fit's inside license.rev or something... All my answer dialogs are with MONGOL writings background and with your logo now... andre -- Andre Alves Garzia 2004 BRAZIL http://studio.soapdog.org

Re: Mainstacks and substacks?

2004-08-01 Thread kee nethery
Thank you to both Troy and Klaus. It really helps to be able to ask stupid simple questions and get crisp clear answers. Sounds like the Klaus saved data solution is to treat a stack as a document and put it into the executable. Then spit it out and start to populate it. Looks like there

Re: question for pam.

2004-08-01 Thread Troy Rollins
On Aug 1, 2004, at 8:14 PM, Andre Garzia wrote: did you fiddled with the Answer Dialog Stack that comes with Rev and I think fit's inside license.rev or something... All my answer dialogs are with MONGOL writings background and with your logo now... OK. That is odd. I took a look at the screen

Re: padding out revXMLText

2004-08-01 Thread Sarah Reichelt
On 30 Jul 2004, at 11:42 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oops Sarah, I use an undocumented feature of the revXMLText (not revXMLTree!) with a third parameter with value TRUE in order to get the formatted xml: put revXMLText(treeID[[,startNode],formatted]) into tFormattedXML No need for any Oops on

Re: question for pam.

2004-08-01 Thread Marian Petrides
Sounds like the file is hosed, but the question is why/how did it get that way and what can Pam (and the rest of us) do to avoid it happening again? Also, is the association with Rev 2.5b1 serendipity or is there something about 2.5 that is root of the problem? Eeep... makes me a little

Re: question for pam.

2004-08-01 Thread Andre Garzia
On Aug 1, 2004, at 9:40 PM, Troy Rollins wrote: OK. That is odd. I took a look at the screen shot! Holy cow. hheheheh wanna get scared! The Mongols even took altPluggins under their commands! look at the shots http://www.soapdog.org/weird.jpg -- Rev distro builder under mongol control.

Saving and Talking

2004-08-01 Thread Greg Wills
Hi All I am having trouble getting a standalone to do both these functions in the same app. What I want to do is allow the user to alter button names. The name of the button can then be used to speak the word. This works fine as a stack. I can get the Distribution Builder to build a standalone

Re: question for pam.

2004-08-01 Thread Troy Rollins
On Aug 1, 2004, at 8:50 PM, Andre Garzia wrote: I think that's the root of the problem, the replaced Answer Dialog stack... can someone with Metacard open the project and destroy the answer dialog and clear the profiles... from inside Rev I can't do that... It looks like one of the images from

Re: question for pam.

2004-08-01 Thread Andre Garzia
On Aug 1, 2004, at 10:01 PM, Troy Rollins wrote: It looks like one of the images from the default image library has been modified. I'm not sure that would cause the whole problem... Somehow, something in the stack is effectively modifying the IDE, I guess. it's not fiddling with image lib,

Re: use-revolution Digest, Vol 11, Issue 4

2004-08-01 Thread pkc
Well I trust everybody who is interested has now had a good look at Andre's hilarious pictures. They DO look very funny on his desktop, but I'm surprised at the surprise. I can't remember much about Revolution 1.x at this point, but Revolution 2.x has ALWAYS picked up any application icons I

Re: use-revolution Digest, Vol 11, Issue 4

2004-08-01 Thread Marian Petrides
Well, I'd be glad to be a guinea pig for you and I bet a few other folks from the list would be too. I REALLY want to get to the bottom of this, at this point! It's almost better than a good detective novel or a difficult antibody panel ;-)) M On Aug 1, 2004, at 9:10 PM, pkc wrote: Got to

Pamela crisis --some progress

2004-08-01 Thread pkc
The small dummy app I built for my students went through and ran fine at their end. So, the setup I have does not object to a stack with a single window in it. Now, working on Andre's theory that the altered dialog stack is the villain, I built an independent mainstack, copied the elements

Re: Pamela crisis --some progress

2004-08-01 Thread Andre Garzia
Pam, I might be wrong on my assumption that the answer dialog was the evil part (not that it is not evil), I made a standalone of pkcdisaster without Answer dialog or Ask dialog, meaning it starts without asking me the login and it works!!! but in windows it dies the same death we always

Re: 2.5 cursor change

2004-08-01 Thread Judy Perry
Wasn't the mouse idea 'stolen' from Englebart? (Doug?) Judy On Sun, 1 Aug 2004, Ken Norris (dialup) wrote: The 'mouse' idea was 'stolen' from Xerox, though. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: 2.5 cursor change

2004-08-01 Thread Richard Gaskin
Judy Perry wrote: On Sun, 1 Aug 2004, Ken Norris (dialup) wrote: The 'mouse' idea was 'stolen' from Xerox, though. Wasn't the mouse idea 'stolen' from Englebart? (Doug?) Yes, as far as I know. I have a copy of the videotape of his presentation of the first mouse-driven OS in 1967 (apparently

Re: Mainstacks and substacks?

2004-08-01 Thread Richard Gaskin
kee nethery wrote: Thank you to both Troy and Klaus. It really helps to be able to ask stupid simple questions and get crisp clear answers. Sounds like the Klaus saved data solution is to treat a stack as a document and put it into the executable. Then spit it out and start to populate it.

Re: update on pamela crisis

2004-08-01 Thread Richard Gaskin
Marian Petrides wrote: I thought about that but, if that's the case, why does it work just fine on the Mac? Works OK both in the IDE and as a standalone. But having dealt with corrupt apps before In Rev? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation

Re: Windows Backdrop Blues

2004-08-01 Thread Sannyasin Sivakatirswami
Chipp, thanks, that worked... backdrop at the end... --Sivakatirswami On Jul 31, 2004, at 10:16 PM, Chipp Walters wrote: and hide menubar;hide taskbar;set the backdrop to blue so, perhaps you should try 'reordering' those commands. -Chipp ___

Re: Rev Web Solutions?

2004-08-01 Thread Hershel Fisch
On Sunday, August 1, 2004, at 07:45 PM, Pierre Sahores wrote: Le 1 août 04, à 23:32, Hershel Fisch a écrit : On Saturday, July 31, 2004, at 04:56 PM, Pierre Sahores wrote: Hi, About how to set up a Revolution applications server binded to PostgreSQL under Mac OS X or Linux, see B1 on Mac os X ,

Re: Pamela crisis -- Found corrupt substack

2004-08-01 Thread Ken Ray
Pam, I looked at your stack and decided that I'd take the no frills approach and try opening it with lockMessages on in MetaCard on Windows. I immediately got the error: Can't open stack because stack is corrupted, check for ~ backup file. So since MC can open Rev files without problems, you

Re: Pamela crisis -- Found corrupt substack

2004-08-01 Thread Richard Gaskin
Ken Ray wrote: Pam, I looked at your stack and decided that I'd take the no frills approach and try opening it with lockMessages on in MetaCard on Windows. I immediately got the error: Can't open stack because stack is corrupted, check for ~ backup file. So since MC can open Rev files without

Pamela crisis bad news

2004-08-01 Thread pkc
In our last episode, I proceeded on Andre's excellent idea of an evil dialogue stack. I created a new mainstack and pointed the previous substacks at it, with the exception of the immortal dialog stack. Saved under a new name and reopened. Poof, suspect dialog is gone and the default dialogs

Quoting Posts in Replies

2004-08-01 Thread Dan Shafer
rant Every once in a while some curmudgeon has to jump in and suggest to people posting to this list that they PLEASE edit the previous posts quoted in their replies so that only the stuff that's essential to follow the current post is included. My turn. I saw a couple of posts tonight that

Re: voice mail recording

2004-08-01 Thread Dan Shafer
On Aug 1, 2004, at 12:35 PM, Sannyasin Sivakatirswami wrote: Does anyone know what format is used or would be best for voice mail? Can't tell you what is standard, but the email voice mail I get from my Vonage account comes in mp3 format. ~~ Dan Shafer,

Animation library

2004-08-01 Thread Troy Rollins
It seems that with 2.5b RunRev is opting to phase out the animation library. I can understand this... I've played with it, but never used it for real. Mostly because it wasn't all that great - though it did have some really nice concepts. Pretty much anybody who has paid any attention to my

Re: Pamela crisis bad news

2004-08-01 Thread Ken Ray
On 8/1/04 11:43 PM, pkc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In our last episode, I proceeded on Andre's excellent idea of an evil dialogue stack. I created a new mainstack and pointed the previous substacks at it, with the exception of the immortal dialog stack. Saved under a new name and reopened.

Re: Animation library

2004-08-01 Thread Richard Gaskin
Troy Rollins wrote: It seems that with 2.5b RunRev is opting to phase out the animation library. I can understand this... I've played with it, but never used it for real. Mostly because it wasn't all that great - though it did have some really nice concepts. Pretty much anybody who has paid

Pamela crisis probable resolution

2004-08-01 Thread pkc
Many thanks to Ken Ray, whose discovery of the corrupt substack I just saw. Too bad, my favorite stack, and one that I use in the OS X build of this application to do all my own editing of course files! But, if that is the villain, it is the villain. I will indeed build it from scratch.

Re: Pamela crisis probable resolution

2004-08-01 Thread Richard Gaskin
pkc wrote: Many thanks to Ken Ray, whose discovery of the corrupt substack I just saw. Too bad, my favorite stack, and one that I use in the OS X build of this application to do all my own editing of course files! But, if that is the villain, it is the villain. I will indeed build it from

Re: Animation library

2004-08-01 Thread Troy Rollins
On Aug 2, 2004, at 1:20 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Would it make sense to open source it? Does make one wonder. I know at one point there was discussion of improving it, expanding it, making it more robust and capable. Instead, the choice seems to be dropping it. Like I said, I can understand

Re: Animation library

2004-08-01 Thread Terry Judd
From: Troy Rollins [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2 August 2004 2:59:51 PM To: How to use Revolution [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Animation library Reply-To: How to use Revolution [EMAIL PROTECTED] I for one have never used the animation library (although someone who did some Rev development for me tried