Hi all,
Anyone here write externals?
I need an external that duplicates the blend feature of Rev. Unfortunately,
once the metacard engine used blend mode on an image it slows the
performance down a great deal, especially when it comes to manipulating
other bitmaps or vectors on top of the
As I understand, this can be a method (other than applescript) to quickly
exchange informations within applications; i know that other
application posts notifications to the distributed notification
center and your client program can register to receive them, but I don't
know, in my Rev client
Er, what's not true - that you're forced to see FM Pro do its
stuff when using AppleScript or that you need activate at the
start of each script? I'm happy to believe the latter isn't
required, but I don't think it helps since if this is left out I
still see FM Pro screens flashing away.
Mark,
Thanks!
If only I weren't teaching a GE (General Education = non-majors) course
this term...
I'm still trying to explain the difference between an email address and a
URL...
:-/
Judy
On Wed, 21 Sep 2005, Mark Wieder wrote:
Sinners-
I've had this filed away for a while and just
I used to use FMkr to export data called by Applescripts, but user interface
was no concern since this was a server.
Does the FMkr database have to be on the same Mac? Being frontmost will not
be an issue in that case.
I don't think you can AppleScript an app on another Mac, I think it
only
Just did a few simple tests, yes it can be scripted while minimized. There
were a few things I had to do when scripting a hidden window that I do not
have to do when scripting a minimized window, so this looks like a good
technique.
I used to use FMkr to export data called by Applescripts, but
I'm using Rev 2.6 (build number 108) to build standalone Apps using
both Mac OS X 10.3.9 (Panther) and 10.4.2 (Tiger). However, the
standalones only work on Macs with the same OS X as they were built
on!
So a Panther-built standalone will run on a Panther Mac but not a
Tiger Mac and a
sez [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
The fourteenth deadly sin is informing the user of a compiler error
your compiler was smart enough to fix without his help
I always _hated_ missing semicolon on line 13. If you know there's
a semicolon missing, why the heck don't you just PUT IT THERE! You're
the
Yesterday i was BATTLING against a stack who wouldn't copy paste
information from a field to ultraedit... I tried all keyboard combos,
and even the menu - just i wouldn't copy anything... maybe it's due to the
environment i run this into: it runs on a windows 2003 server
which has 4 metaframes
Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Yesterday i was BATTLING against a stack who wouldn't copy paste
information from a field to ultraedit... I tried all keyboard combos,
and even the menu - just i wouldn't copy anything...[snip]copy!
I've never been able to copy from a stack field to another field
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Yesterday i was BATTLING against a stack who wouldn't copy paste
information from a field to ultraedit... I tried all keyboard combos,
and even the menu - just i wouldn't copy anything...[snip]copy!
I've never been able to copy from a
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Yesterday i was BATTLING against a stack who wouldn't copy paste
information from a field to ultraedit... I tried all keyboard combos,
and even the menu - just i wouldn't copy anything...[snip]copy!
I've never been able to copy
Peter,
I haven't observed that problem here. I routinely build apps on Tiger
and deploy on Panther. Could you give us more details about the app
you're trying to build?
Devin
On Sep 22, 2005, at 1:39 AM, Peter Reid wrote:
I'm using Rev 2.6 (build number 108) to build standalone Apps
you are correct about the 'server'.. it was a headless client that fed data
and processed reports for the office, running a FMkr client app.
Applescript coordinated the email, web, FMkr, Excel, and Word apps to
produce an integrated solution without regard to screen flashing and user
interface.
Quoting Alex Tweedly [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Yesterday i was BATTLING against a stack who wouldn't copy paste
information from a field to ultraedit... I tried all keyboard combos,
and even the menu - just i wouldn't copy anything...[snip]copy!
google applescript remote a bunch of links, some rather old.
'Tell' blocks can accept URLs in the 'machine' parameter, allowing
AppleScript control of remote applications via TCP/IP as of OS 9 in Nov '99
You can run a remote Applescript in Terminal
Check out the 'osascript' shell command.
Hi,
I've been trying to get the simplest of things to work for a good few
hours and eventually found the problem!
I was trying to set the rect of an Image Object and had code like this:
set the rect of me to myRect (myRect = 132,22,222,90 for a
width/height of 90,68)
However the
Yeah, I *know* that intellectually, but it always seemed to me that a
sufficiently intelligent compiler could be designed that would be
able to dope that out correctly a huge percentage of the time.
Besides, I like screaming at compilers at 3 a.m.
BTW and FWIW, in the last year or so that I
bugzilla 3137 for those who want to vote on it...
http://support.runrev.com/bugdatabase/show_bug.cgi?id=3137
For ONCE, rev has fixed more bugs than I've entered in a day ;)
3/13 and decreasing! Good job Mark!
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Glaswegian?
Charles Hartman
On Sep 22, 2005, at 10:55 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Quoting Alex Tweedly [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Yesterday i was BATTLING against a stack who wouldn't copy paste
information from a field to ultraedit... I
On 22 Sep 2005, at 08:27, Paul Claude wrote:
As I understand, this can be a method (other than applescript) to
quickly
exchange informations within applications; i know that other
application posts notifications to the distributed notification
center and your client program can register to
ROTFL... I had to check what Glaswegian meant so I pasted it in SpellNO2 and
had that meaning in 2 seconds!
Ah! Most probably not. I think it's because rev developpers do not have to
use a PC daily...
Kevin's time in hell might be to use Rev on a PC to make mac stacks as im
trying for now 3
I have a stack in which the user can copy from a field to another
program.
I scripted for this in a rawkeydown handler in the stack script. It also
required modifying ctrl-P to avoid certain problems. Here is the
relevant code:
on rawkeydown pKey
if the selectedfield = empty then pass
Hello Pierre, Charles, et al,
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 19:57:08 +0200
From: Pierre Sahores [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Tiger breaks hyperCard?
Hi,
HC 2.4.1 is still working as expected under Tiger 10.4.2 / Classic /
PWB G4 there.
Best,
Le 21 sept. 05 à 18:00, Charles Hartman a écrit :
Hi Mark,
On Sep 21, 2005, at 11:06 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 21:12:05 -0700
From: Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: The Deadly Sins
Sinners-
I've had this filed away for a while and just rediscovered it...
http://www.eecs.harvard.edu/~nr/sins.html
What
On Sep 22, 2005, at 12:00, Ken Norris wrote:
Hi Mark,
On Sep 21, 2005, at 11:06 PM, use-revolution-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 21:12:05 -0700
From: Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: The Deadly Sins
Sinners-
I've had this filed away for a while and just
Very funny...
If I may add one...
I shall slay the dogs that left Klingon Script out of Unicode!
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gordon
Tillman
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 1:05 PM
To: How to use Revolution
Subject: Re: The
Never mind -- I found it -- see below.
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 21:12:05 -0700
From: Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: The Deadly Sin
I previously wrote:
What about Klingon Coding practices?
Say, where are those anyway? I can't find them :-/ I remember I tipped
over my office chair
petac'h OS changes...
Note petac'h, the klingon word for looser, coward, or wimpy is commonly
mispelled as petach (which would sound as petash or petatch (like detach)
while the real pronunciation is petakhhh (like pet+throat burning ach from
german - like ich) - prounouncing the h a la dutch
Howdy,
On Sep 22, 2005, at 10:00 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 10:11:29 -0700
From: Ken Norris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: The Deadly Sins
Hmmm. Appears to be more than one version of Klingon coding.
Would 'compiling' them both cause an intergalactic incident?
When the IntelMacs are introduced things should actually get better (short
term) for us HyperCard users. There will be good used and refurbished G4
and
G5 computers available for many years as people upgrade to the new hardware.
HyperCard runs really well (and really fast) on today's G5
HEY, you signed that Xavier Impostor you! :D
and while reading before noticing my name I thought:
ut that's pretty much how rev has done so far with my
support's requests and debugging efforts appreciation! ;)
cheers
MonsieurX.com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I identified the real problem with this clipboard problem...
again, doing rev's beta tester's job...
Who-ever wrote the html compatibility code in rev should be wipped like a
petach d'mes deux!
put the clipboarddata[text] -- contains the right information
while
put clipboarddata[html] -- is
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I wrote ...
You may have decided that because of a bug whereby the IDE would not
cut/paste unless (or until) there was a script editor window open. Sorry
don't know the bug number and a (very) quick search didn't find it. But
it is fixed in 2.6 !! so give it a
the problem is that control-m doesn't work most of the time until I click on
the rev menubar...
in 2.6
I click on the windows task bar on rev, click on control-m, control-v and it
works (but notice that paste still doesn't get it right). I go back to my
email client, click on an open stack
I have an intermittent problem with the menu builder:
When I go to create a menu bar, on a stack that does not yet have one,
my card background (and all the controls on it), disappears. I have not
been able to figure out how to get it back. I end up 'reverting to
saved'. It doesn't seem to
that's a new twist!
what version of rev? platform/OS?
please try to help us help you out...
can you replicate it in a new simple stack?
I haven't seen this one yet!
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rich Lague
Sent: Thursday, September
you forgot rule X
only petac'hs companies release software without challenges for their
support teams or users...
cheers
X
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ken Norris
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 7:11 PM
To:
I just tried it with a new simple stack, and my background group did
not disappear. So, it must be something about my stack. And it must be
something I put in a variety of stacks because this is not the first
time I have had this problem.
When it happens the Application Browser shows the
On 9/22/05 9:58 AM, Jim Ault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You can run a remote Applescript in Terminal
You can also run it in the Script Editor and from Rev; you just need to make
sure you have Remote Events turned on in the Sharing control panel (I
believe), and then include the IP address with
MisterX wrote:
there's no passing of the control key if you have a menubar that doesn’t
handle it while this is a rev-command. This would have never failed in
hypercard as I remember the good old days...
Exactly, and that is how it should work. If I have a custom menu bar and
I have disabled
that's still doesn't explain why you can't:
- copy from a stack with no menubar and when the revmenubar is there
- use the script editors menu shortcuts when you are in the script editor
- why copy wont work with control-c or control-ins - there's only one
stack...
- why other rev shortcuts work
I haven't observed that problem here. I routinely build apps on
Tiger and deploy on Panther. Could you give us more details about
the app you're trying to build?
Devin
I'm building an app that uses AppleScript to control an FM Pro
database on the same machine. I'm not using any external or
At 7:38 am -0700 22/9/2005, Jim Ault wrote:
you are correct about the 'server'.. it was a headless client that fed data
and processed reports for the office, running a FMkr client app.
Applescript coordinated the email, web, FMkr, Excel, and Word apps to
produce an integrated solution without
Thanks Dave, and the anwer that works for now
on socketError theID, theError
close socket theID
end socketError
...in order to be sure, and the action loop is 20+ seconds
When I tighten the event loop, I may have to get more creative.
Jim
On 9/21/05 1:11 PM, Dave Cragg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sep 22, 2005, at 1:14 PM, Peter Reid wrote:
I haven't observed that problem here. I routinely build apps on
Tiger and deploy on Panther. Could you give us more details about
the app you're trying to build?
Devin
I'm building an app that uses AppleScript to control an FM Pro
MisterX wrote:
put the clipboarddata[text] -- contains the right information
while
put clipboarddata[html] -- is definitely wrong and should not be
trusted...
In what way is it wrong?
--
Richard Gaskin
Managing Editor, revJournal
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Ken Norris wrote:
Note: HyperCard is the one-and-only software item I run in Classic
today. I use its Color Tools because, albeit it lacks some features,
it's still has the fastest, most intuitive paint tools, for cranking out
graphical artwork parts, on the planet.
How would you
I've taken the liberty of renamin this thread, as it ultimately seems
more related to enabling/disabling menu items (and hence their
associated keyboard shortcuts) than the workings of the Clipboard
itself. For thread-name purists, please forgive.
This issue is critical for all designers
Thanks Jacqueline,
I finally got it to work when I reduced the number of cards in the
stack. It was a stack with more than 500 cards. When I deleted all but
9 cards and created a menu, I saw my background moved about halfway
down the screen.
Does the menu builder move the existing objects
Rich Lague wrote:
I have an intermittent problem with the menu builder:
When I go to create a menu bar, on a stack that does not yet have one,
my card background (and all the controls on it), disappears. I have not
been able to figure out how to get it back. I end up 'reverting to
saved'. It
Hi Peter,
When I double-click on a Panther-built copy on a Tiger machine the
dock twitches briefly as if it's about to show the program icon and
then nothing.
Stupid question: How do you transfer the apps from one computer to the
other? Are you using stuff-it to pack it before transfer? Have
On 9/22/05 3:22 PM, Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But if the user has text on the Clipboard from another app, how does
your app know without something horribly inefficient like polling?
Well, you could check the clilpboard on resumeStack...
Ken Ray
Sons of Thunder Software
Web
Thanks for separating the thread issues... They are not the same...
Regarding this, all you need is to check whenever you get a resume
message or eventually a pastekey command...
no polling required!
My feeling is that if your stack (we're talking ide environment and it's
stacks, not an
Rich Lague wrote:
Thanks Jacqueline,
I finally got it to work when I reduced the number of cards in the
stack. It was a stack with more than 500 cards. When I deleted all but 9
cards and created a menu, I saw my background moved about halfway down
the screen.
Does the menu builder move
Rich Lague asks,
Does the menu builder move the existing objects down further when there are
more cards in the stack?
Rich,
Yes, yes, yes!
Revolution doesn't have a real background, so background groups are added to
new cards. The menus are a background group.
If you add a menu to a single card
MisterX wrote:
that's still doesn't explain why you can't:
- copy from a stack with no menubar and when the revmenubar is there
- use the script editors menu shortcuts when you are in the script editor
- why copy wont work with control-c or control-ins - there's only one
stack...
- why
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Rich Lague asks,
Does the menu builder move the existing objects down further when there are
more cards in the stack?
Rich,
Yes, yes, yes!
I believe you, but I haven't ever seen it. Is there a recipe? It should
be in Bugzilla if so -- that's pretty non-standard
I'd like to publicly say thank you to the various people that contacted me
regarding my post. I will be contacting the person who best fits my needs
personally via email.
- Thanks again :)
- TJ
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At 1:22 PM -0700 9/22/2005, Richard Gaskin wrote:
But if the user has text on the Clipboard from another app, how does
your app know without something horribly inefficient like polling?
I'd be inclined to just check the clipboard function on mouseDown in
the menu bar. That way you only need
Richard,
In what way is it wrong?
in what way is it wrong that you dont test what I posted in the first place
in this thread?
PC issue only again?
Again... What happens is that if there is html in the clipdata, what is in
between backslashes gets filtered out...
I copied this
emcacl
MisterX wrote:
Richard,
In what way is it wrong?
in what way is it wrong that you don’t test what I posted in the first place
in this thread?
PC issue only again?
Again... What happens is that if there is html in the clipdata, what is in
between backslashes gets filtered out...
I copied
When I double-click on a Panther-built copy on a Tiger machine the
dock twitches briefly as if it's about to show the program icon and
then nothing.
Stupid question: How do you transfer the apps from one computer to the
other? Are you using stuff-it to pack it before transfer? Have you
Stupid question: How do you transfer the apps from one computer to
the other? Are you using stuff-it to pack it before transfer? Have
you tried a memory stick or CD-R with an uncompressed app? I have
seen that behaviour with a broken stuff-it version before
(Jaguar/Panther in that case).
All
I have seen this before and it is a permissions problem caused (as
Malte suggests) by copying an uncompressed app from one computer to
another. The system version has nothing to do with it as far as I
know. Panther Tiger both have built-in compression. Right-click
(control-click) on the
Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Ken Norris wrote:
Note: HyperCard is the one-and-only software item I run in Classic
today. I use its Color Tools because, albeit it lacks some features,
it's still has the fastest, most intuitive paint tools, for cranking out
graphical artwork
Hi,
For what it's worth, I can confirm the same result as Xavier. It also
happens pasting into the message box. I am on PC XP Pro.
For some reason I didn't think of it as a bug, but I realize now that it is.
It was annoying, but to get around it when copying and pasting, I pasted it
first
MisterX-
Thursday, September 22, 2005, 3:58:04 PM, you wrote:
Again... What happens is that if there is html in the clipdata, what is in
between backslashes gets filtered out...
I copied this
emcacl \\server\fs$\userprog\xxx /t /c /y /q /g SYSTEM:F
OAAD\xxx:C
Works fine here,
Almost the same on Mac, even using the IDE, sometimes you Command+S
and nothing happens, but then you select the same option from the
Menu Bar and it works!
Drives me mad, but there really is a problem with keyboard shortcuts.
Bye for now
Dave
that's still doesn't explain why you can't:
Great! Just what I need to here. I get the same. What's up? This
needs to be addressed and quickly if we are to use RunRev to any
advantage.
The good old MacOS before X was so much easier!
Dave
I haven't observed that problem here. I routinely build apps on
Tiger and deploy on Panther.
J. Landman Gay wrote:
Don't add the menu group to the regular background group - trust me,
much misery.
What happens? Just curious, I've never tried it.
Once you turn off the editMenus the bottom of the menu group is used to
determine where the stack's crop-and-scroll takes place to hide
MisterX wrote:
Richard,
In what way is it wrong?
in what way is it wrong that you don’t test what I posted in the first place
in this thread?
Sorry, I missed the original thread.
I generally don't run my own tests of all issues reported to this list,
and would envy the free time of
It took me 18 months to straighten out the menus in my stacks (this while
reading the docs, Dan's book, notes on this forum - I also consulted some to
the
best brains in the Rev world). In the end the solution is simple:
1. Build menus on a stack before adding cards. If the stack has cards,
Marty Billingsley wrote:
Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Ken Norris wrote:
Note: HyperCard is the one-and-only software item I run in Classic
today. I use its Color Tools because, albeit it lacks some features,
it's still has the fastest, most intuitive paint tools, for cranking out
Jeanne A. E. DeVoto wrote:
At 1:22 PM -0700 9/22/2005, Richard Gaskin wrote:
But if the user has text on the Clipboard from another app, how does
your app know without something horribly inefficient like polling?
I'd be inclined to just check the clipboard function on mouseDown in the
menu
Marty Billingsley wrote:
We really miss HC's text tool for painting
letters and words. Why did RunRev eliminate that?
They didn't, really -- Scott Raney, who wrote the original engine, just
never put it in. I used to think I'd miss it, but so far I haven't ever
needed paint text. Is there
Sarah thanks for your reply Does weeder devices work with mac's (osx)
Liam
On 9/15/05, liamlambert liamlambert at mac.com wrote:
Has anyone use rev with teleo from makingthings.com I am looking for
a stack that will connect to there starter kit and read a single
Digital in put
Liam . L
MisterX-
Thursday, September 22, 2005, 3:58:04 PM, you wrote:
Again... What happens is that if there is html in the clipdata, what
is in between backslashes gets filtered out...
I copied this
emcacl \\server\fs$\userprog\xxx /t /c /y /q /g SYSTEM:F
OAAD\xxx:C
Works fine here,
Paul
sorry to hear about your loss of time on this... The background issues are
also maddening when you don't know what happens...
had I heard you before... I've seen this issue since 6 years come and go...
As TAOO uses backgrounds a lot, I've seen this happen lots...
As Jacky said, if your
In honor of the day when all the Noxes are Equi:
Thanks to some prodding from Richard Gaskin and Trevore DeVore I've
been spending some time putting together a system of Events and
Observers. I started out with the classic Model-Viewer-Controller
construct from Smalltalk, but ended up with a much
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