Hey everyone... I was forced to move away from my previous ISP, and in doing
so the CGIs I was using to post bugs for RevZilla were replaced with .irev
files.
This means that any version of RevZilla prior to this one will fail when
attempting to send in RevZilla feedback, bug reports, or even
On 11/04/2010 05:39, Peter Alcibiades wrote:
On the basis that maybe it could be something about all three of the systems
it occurred on today, which admittedly are all running Debian, though with
very different installation and use histories, I moved Rev to Slitaz running
in Sun's non-free
On 10/04/2010 23:52, Peter Alcibiades wrote:
Here is the recipe.
Open a stack with plenty of buttons and scripts.
Now open any script in the editor.
Use the property inspector to get the properties of a given field
Select and copy the name of the field
Paste it into the script. I think I
On 11/04/2010 01:52, Richard Gaskin wrote:
Peter Alcibiades wrote:
Here is the recipe.
Open a stack with plenty of buttons and scripts.
Now open any script in the editor.
Use the property inspector to get the properties of a given field
Select and copy the name of the field
Paste it into
Not good - http://bit.ly/bnTy0D
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Hello Sarah,
The first libURLSetFTPListCommand with the NLST param is used to
force a preventive LibUrl vars state reset while the second one with
the LIST param is used to do the job ! Not sure if this a real
academic way to go but feet the needs i had (and still work as
expected) to
There are two questions, whether Ubuntu is the distribution of choice for a
production environment, and whether Linux is the right platform to run
Revolution on.
The answer to the first question is no, use Debian Stable. Ubuntu is the
result of six monthly refreshings from Debian Experimental.
Le 11 avr. 2010 à 02:59, Richard Gaskin a écrit :
but far more useful than an iPad for general computing and even programming
tasks.
Richard,
The question is what is meant by general computing... For my part, I think
iPad will create new uses, and that is what I wait from this tool.
Good post Peter - I used to be a Linux only user of Rev and its potential on
that platform is fabulous, both in terms of the users and for RunRev in
terms of attracting hard core developers. Hang in there - remember November
is Rev everywhere :)
And how about Html 5, or Android front ends with a
What would be the best strategy for fetching a series of pieces of data from
a url call to display the text first and then when ready the images or
larger binary data?
What I'd (naively) like to do is:
1. Call the cgi - possibly without using load url
2. The CGI returns the text data
David,
Are you doing this on the on-rev server?
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Subject: Thoughts on fetching data from iRev cgi's (in chunks)
To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
Date:
On 11/04/2010 12:59, David Bovill wrote:
Good post Peter - I used to be a Linux only user of Rev and its potential on
that platform is fabulous, both in terms of the users and for RunRev in
terms of attracting hard core developers. Hang in there - remember November
is Rev everywhere :)
And how
On 11/04/2010 11:34, Peter Alcibiades wrote:
There are two questions, whether Ubuntu is the distribution of choice for a
production environment, and whether Linux is the right platform to run
Revolution on.
Yes, there are 2 questions; one (the one about RunRev) that should be
tackled here;
Richmond Mathewson wrote:
RunRev go on and on and on about how much they listen to and care
about their 'community' of devoted users . . . however, many times over the
last 9 years (in which I have been a devoted RunRev user) I have wondered
whether that is really true; or, whether the truth
On Apr 11, 2010, at 4:30 AM, David Bovill wrote:
Not good - http://bit.ly/bnTy0D
What is comical is that although Steve is all out to prevent compatibility
layers, in his quest for perfect apps, he's ok with using Javascript and HTML5,
which I think are compatibility layers. I've done
René Micout wrote:
Le 11 avr. 2010 à 02:59, Richard Gaskin a écrit :
but far more useful than an iPad for general computing and
even programming tasks.
Richard,
The question is what is meant by general computing... For my part,
I think iPad will create new uses, and that is what I wait
On 11/04/2010 18:21, Richard Gaskin wrote:
Richmond Mathewson wrote:
snip
I don't think it's any sort of grand conspiracy, but rather that the
cause-and-effect may be exactly backwards from what you suggest:
Hmm; I don't think there is a grand conspiracy - what there may be is an
On 11/04/2010 18:28, Colin Holgate wrote:
On Apr 11, 2010, at 4:30 AM, David Bovill wrote:
Not good - http://bit.ly/bnTy0D
What is comical is that although Steve is all out to prevent compatibility
layers, in his quest for perfect apps, he's ok with using Javascript and HTML5,
which I
My top 3 ideas are:
1. Swank toy.
2. Castrated computer for people who don't need laptops or PCs.
3. Tree-Free book.
What are yours? Come on you-all . . . :0
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John Vokey wrote:
I have been an Apple user since the Apple ][, and have purchased
upwards of at least 100 machines from Apple in that time; but,
lately, I have been playing with Ubuntu Linux. And, I must admit
I am impressed. Most of my work on Macs is done with open-source
software
I had mine delivered from China on April 3rd since I ordered it the day it
was available for ordering. I got the 64GB unit and its an amazing device.
I think the reviewer I read that said it was the first information consumer
device had it about right. There is no manual, you just press the big
On Apr 11, 2010, at 11:45 AM, Richmond Mathewson wrote:
BUT; 'compatibility' is polysemantic: what is compatible with what Mr Jobs
envisages for the iPhone/iPad may
not encompass all the things that are otherwise compatible.
There's the basic problem, Steve's vision isn't compatible with
On Apr 11, 2010, at 11:59 AM, Neal Campbell wrote:
I had mine delivered from China on April 3rd since I ordered it the day it
was available for ordering. I got the 64GB unit and its an amazing device.
Same story for me, I had placed my order within 3 minutes of it being
order-able. Mine is
I am struggling to figure out why do as Applescript works once correctly but
second time its fired off, Rev hangs and returns execution error. My As code
works correctly within the As editor all the time. I am talking directly to the
Applescript editor with my do statements. I am using 4.0. Are
Its not Rev's fault that Linux has small market share. No, of course not.
But Richard, you cannot seriously be arguing that it is either sensible or
acceptable to release poor quality software as long as the target markets
are small? As to its being the same half dozen people. Well, maybe.
Andrew,
I don't understand how Rev can hang and still return something. What
do you mean exactly?
It is probably wrong to talk directly to the AppleScript editor. I
can't think of any reason why one would want that. What are you trying
to do?
Please, post your script. I'd be happy to
On 11 Apr 2010, at 17:22, Andrew Meit wrote:
I am struggling to figure out why do as Applescript works once
correctly but second time its fired off, Rev hangs and returns
execution error. My As code works correctly within the As editor
all the time. I am talking directly to the
I just got a 16 GB iPad yesterday. I was thinking of it as a large
iPod touch, but it is not. It is something new that is a blast to
use. I think it will change the way people casually use technology
and is a big step forward in consumer electronics. After using it for
the last day, I
That's y'all, not you-all!
Best,
Jerry Daniels
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On Apr 11, 2010, at 10:49 AM, Richmond Mathewson richmondmathew...@gmail.com
wrote:
My top 3 ideas are:
1. Swank toy.
2. Castrated computer
Jerry-
Sunday, April 11, 2010, 9:58:14 AM, you wrote:
That's y'all, not you-all!
I think he meant the plural, in which case it's all y'all...
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Richmond was using the plural form of y'all, which everyone knows is you
y'all.
--- On Sun, 4/11/10, Jerry Daniels jerry.dani...@me.com wrote:
From: Jerry Daniels jerry.dani...@me.com
Subject: Re: [OT] What's an iPad?
To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
Date: Sunday,
On 11/04/2010 19:58, Jerry Daniels wrote:
That's y'all, not you-all!
Not in that Scottish province called Bulgaria it ain't . . . :)
Best,
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On Apr 11, 2010, at 10:49 AM,
On 11/04/2010 20:05, Michael Kann wrote:
Richmond was using the plural form of y'all, which everyone knows is you
y'all.
I am sorry if I can't keep youse all happy: where I come from we don't
really
feel an urge for a repluralised plural -
Thee and You do just fine for the singular and
One 'bug' that was present for me in Rev 2.7.2 and Rev 2.9.0 was in
the IDE
I found that after the first AScript sent to a Rev stack 'on
appleevent', that subsequent calls to Rev were silent.
The answer was to switch from Browse tool to Pointer, then back again.
This was not the case for
IPad rocks. Developing for it. Definitely in all our futures. IS a new model of
enjoying and working with data in all forms.
16GB model. Surprisingly NOT a large iPhone.
Best,
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On
All y'all is strictly limited to the imperative. It IS plural, however.
All y'all come over here.
Y'all is used in questions regardless of plurality.
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On Apr 11, 2010,
The iPad is a chance for people who can not speak to be able to Afford and Use
an inexpensive and sexy device to speak for them as in my iPad application I
Can Speak. For the first time in history someone can buy a speech device for
less than the typical $5,000 to $10,000.
The IPad is a
On 11/04/2010 20:29, Thomas McGrath III wrote:
The iPad is a chance for people who can not speak to be able to Afford and Use an
inexpensive and sexy device to speak for them as in my iPad application I Can
Speak. For the first time in history someone can buy a speech device for less than
The iPad is the resurrection of multimedia, I believe. Remember
multimedia?
Ryno.
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In my part of the country all y'all is not strictly imperative. It works
equally well in the interrogative, i.e. Are all y'all comin' to the pig
pullin' on Sa'urday? If so bring some tea? [Where tea is a beverage made
by filling an empty gallon milk jug 3/4 of the way full of sugar and
infusing
Peter Alcibiades wrote:
my suggestion to anyone testing Rev on Linux is to get as close to
bare metal as you can.
That won't be the right test. If you look on page 18 of the User Guide,
it explains the requirements. It's true, I believe, that testing is done
on Ubuntu because that is the
Richmond Mathewson wrote:
And, then, of course, there is that woman down in England who has major
grammatical problems always referring to herself as We; mind you she
suffers from all sorts of delusions such as thinking she is a legitimate
monarch . . . but I digress . . . :)
Reminds me of a
Southeast US? I'm central Texas.
Best,
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On Apr 11, 2010, at 1:03 PM, wayne durden wdur...@gmail.com wrote:
In my part of the country all y'all is not strictly imperative. It works
Ahh I had an insight to rework it and now it works. However, am always wanting
to work smart than hard...
I am creating AS statements on the fly via Rev then sending them to Applescript
editor to be compiled and saved via clipboard.
Is there a way to send a list of AS statements to AS to be
Peter Alcibiades wrote:
Its not Rev's fault that Linux has small market share. No, of course not.
But Richard, you cannot seriously be arguing that it is either sensible or
acceptable to release poor quality software as long as the target markets
are small? As to its being the same half dozen
On 11 Apr 2010, at 19:18, Andrew Meit wrote:
Ahh I had an insight to rework it and now it works. However, am
always wanting to work smart than hard...
I am creating AS statements on the fly via Rev then sending them to
Applescript editor to be compiled and saved via clipboard.
Is there a
Jacque, I do have all the libraries installed. I do have Gnome installed, I
just hardly ever use it nowadays, maybe once in 6 months. KDE the same.
And I've had the same problems on two machines which are straight up Gnome
systems with fairly fresh clean installs. The editor problem I have
I can't find a way to escape the hyphen char for a menu, it just always give a
divider line. Clues? Thanks
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On 11/04/2010 21:03, wayne durden wrote:
In my part of the country all y'all is not strictly imperative. It works
equally well in the interrogative, i.e. Are all y'all comin' to the pig
pullin' on Sa'urday?
Scuse I, what be a pig pullin' ? I bain't be from Thikky parts o thik world.
If
On 11/04/2010 21:50, Peter Alcibiades wrote:
snip
I know about the history - its how I got here. I too used to be a Hypercard
user years and years ago. Ah, if only
Aye, well, if only. . . We might, at best, have a souped-up Hypercard
rolled up
inside some sort of Quicktime!
And
On 11/04/2010 21:03, J. Landman Gay wrote:
snip
That said, I agree that if a Linux version is available, it should run
without problems on at least some distros. If you can isolate those
problems on a distro that is stated to be supported (Ubuntu at least)
then those certainly deserve some
On Sun, 11 Apr 2010, Richmond Mathewson wrote:
If so bring some tea? [Where tea is a beverage made
by filling an empty gallon milk jug 3/4 of the way full of sugar and
infusing it with a bit of tannins in water so that it doesn't appear to be
clear]
That be sounding pretty jank to me :-P
On 11/04/2010 22:32, Judy Perry wrote:
On Sun, 11 Apr 2010, Richmond Mathewson wrote:
If so bring some tea? [Where tea is a beverage made
by filling an empty gallon milk jug 3/4 of the way full of sugar and
infusing it with a bit of tannins in water so that it doesn't
appear to be
That's the same SJ who said that the future of the iPhone was in internet
rich app. He later changed his mind (probably under popular pressure and
witnessing what was done on jailbroken iPhones.
He may change his mind again.
Le 11 avr. 2010 à 10:30, David Bovill a écrit :
Not good -
On Sun, 11 Apr 2010, Richmond Mathewson wrote:
On 11/04/2010 22:32, Judy Perry wrote:
That be sounding pretty jank to me :-P
Judy, if your teenagers are only drinking tea (even if it is really just
sugar solution)
be very very happy . . .
--Yeah, I wish. But, no. And, fortunately,
On 11/04/2010 23:08, Judy Perry wrote:
--Well, it, and its companion adjective denk/dank, both have roots in
the drug culture, as does one of the teens in question, and hence they
were shocked to hear my 9 year olds repeating these words in public.
They seem not to have grasped that you
The Android numbers are getting quite impressive:
http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/iPhone-OS-4-and-ComScore-Nielsen-and-ABI-studies/?kc=rss
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Bonjour,
I don't know but, In the Archives there was a discussion in June 2009:
How to put a minus in menu
Best regards from Grenoble
André
Le 11 avr. 10 à 20:54, Andrew Meit a écrit :
I can't find a way to escape the hyphen char for a menu, it just
always give a divider line. Clues?
Richmond, no, it can't be all bad. But its Debian! You do realize how it is
made and what it is made out of? They have a six month schedule, on which
they take packages from Debian Experimental, and make a distro.
Meanwhile, the Debian guys move those same packages out of Experimental,
into
Peter Alcibiades wrote:
Here are a couple links, the first being the redoubtable Caitlyn Martin, the
second Warren Woodford. These guys are serious people and should be
listened to:
http://broadcast.oreilly.com/2010/04/ubuntu-is-a-poor-standard-bear.html
The other is the case she does not
Le 11 avr. 2010 à 17:40, Richard Gaskin a écrit :
In brief, I see the iPad as one of the most powerful an innovative media
CONSUMPTION devices ever. But for media AUTHORING, we still have computers.
Richard
I agree with that.
I also think that the usefulness of the iPad has not yet been
This is, for me, a virtual controller : like virtual musical keyboard (by
example)... Something like Lemur :
http://www.jazzmutant.com/lemur_overview.php
But Lemur = 2 000 euros and iPad = 500 euros...
Lemur = 10 applications and iPad = 1500 (...)
René
Le 11 avr. 2010 à 17:49, Richmond
Against my own better judgement, I've got involved in one of the
iPhone SDK threads over on Ars, and of course brought Rev up as
something that can build native-looking apps (something that is
apparently impossible!).
Does anyone know of a showcase of Rev-built apps, or have links to
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 4:18 AM, Andrew Meit meit...@bellsouth.net wrote:
Ahh I had an insight to rework it and now it works. However, am always
wanting to work smart than hard...
I am creating AS statements on the fly via Rev then sending them to
Applescript editor to be compiled and saved
Just for grins, I think opinions about the iPad would be even more interesting
if accompanied by ownership status.
MJ and I own one. I think it's an iPad -- it's own thing.
- not a computer, laptop, net book
- not a big iPod touch
- not a multimedia player
You can certainly create on it.
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 1:49 AM, Richmond Mathewson
richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote:
My top 3 ideas are:
1. Swank toy.
2. Castrated computer for people who don't need laptops or PCs.
3. Tree-Free book.
What are yours? Come on you-all . . . :0
Remember trying to explain HyperCard?
While the iPad is no LaserDisk, it will have to do. :)
For educational consumption media (multimedia), the iPad is what was promised
15-20 years before it could be implemented. I think it could prove very, very
valuable in education on myriad levels. Unfortunately we are living in an era
I wish you could natively read pdf files but that means
Apple allows Adobe to exist on the same planet and that obviously isn't
happening.
You can read PDFs. Try GoodReader http://www.goodiware.com/goodreader.html.
Cheers,
Sarah
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And documents in the ePub format can be read on iPad. I think these can be
sync'd to iBooks. There utilities for desktops to convert documents to ePub.
Best,
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On Apr 11, 2010, at
Jerry Daniels jerry.dani...@me.com on April 11, 2010 at 10:01 AM -0700
wrote:
I think he meant the plural, in which case it's all y'all...
When I was in Texas a couple of years ago, I was told that y'all is
singular, Both y'all if you are referring to two people and all y'all is
plurall :)
I'm looking forward to the iPad being available in the UK.
I'm also looking forward to the WePad launch;
http://wepad.mobi/en/index
It sounds interesting.
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I like this. Now we're talking. Can't wait to see the specs and a real one.
On 11 April 2010 16:20, John Craig r...@splash21.com wrote:
I'm looking forward to the iPad being available in the UK.
I'm also looking forward to the WePad launch;
http://wepad.mobi/en/index
It sounds interesting.
Check out
http://www.ubergizmo.com/15/archives/2010/03/wepad.html
On 12/04/2010 00:25, stephen barncard wrote:
I like this. Now we're talking. Can't wait to see the specs and a real one.
On 11 April 2010 16:20, John Craigr...@splash21.com wrote:
On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 6:30 PM, Pierre Sahores psaho...@free.fr wrote:
Hello Sarah,
The first libURLSetFTPListCommand with the NLST param is used to force a
preventive LibUrl vars state reset while the second one with the LIST
param is used to do the job ! Not sure if this a real academic
Thanks for the precision, Sarah.
On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 6:30 PM, Pierre Sahores psaho...@free.fr
wrote:
Hello Sarah,
The first libURLSetFTPListCommand with the NLST param is used to
force a
preventive LibUrl vars state reset while the second one with the
LIST
param is used to do the job
On 12/04/10 8:47 AM, Mark Swindell mdswind...@cruzio.com wrote:
While the iPad is no LaserDisk, it will have to do. :)
For educational consumption media (multimedia), the iPad is what was promised
15-20 years before it could be implemented. I think it could prove very, very
valuable in
I use Files for PDFs on the iPhone. If you plan to use it much I
recommend the full version: it's only a few bucks, and quick
navigation through PDFs (among other things) is really useful.
On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 10:59 AM, Neal Campbell nealk...@gmail.com wrote:
I had mine delivered from China
I think it's going to take a few years, but it's going to replace
other ways of using computers:
http://gcanyon.wordpress.com/2010/02/04/the-ipad-revolution-its-1984-all-over-again/
On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 10:49 AM, Richmond Mathewson
richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote:
My top 3 ideas are:
1.
I give up. It appears do AS is somehow picky/buggy or what...here is my simple
code:
copy to clipboard this: --testing code
I have the AS code below in a field:
tell application AppleScript Editor
activate
set fpath to /Users/ScholarMeit/Desktop/As tests/moving window
make new document with
Excellent dissertation, Geoff!
sqb
On 11 April 2010 19:48, Geoff Canyon Rev
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wrote:
I think it's going to take a few years, but it's going to replace
other ways of using computers:
Andrew,
What is the error that you get and from where? Is it a file exists error?
Perhaps that is why it works the first time and not the second in Rev; The
applescript editor probably traps for that.
perhaps you could try file exists in rev to check first.
On 11 April 2010 20:03, Andrew Meit
On 12/04/2010 00:47, Richard Gaskin wrote:
Peter Alcibiades wrote:
Here are a couple links, the first being the redoubtable Caitlyn
Martin, the
second Warren Woodford. These guys are serious people and should be
listened to:
On 12/04/2010 02:20, John Craig wrote:
I'm looking forward to the iPad being available in the UK.
I'm also looking forward to the WePad launch;
http://wepad.mobi/en/index
It sounds interesting.
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This lot cannot quite make up their mind what their
target demographic is:
http://www.neofonie.de/pdf/neofonie_product_sheet_WePad_v1.2.pdf
Title: WePad The tablet PC for publishing houses
A bit further down:
The WePad provides elderly users in the core target
group of newspaper and
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