AW: slash and backslash in effective filename - why?

2010-11-11 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
Hi Bob, hmm, that is an interesting hint. My development folders are indeed on a windows server with a mapped share. But creating a new test stack, once saved on my local windows drive and a second time saved on the mapped server drive, both times the effective filename returns a path with

AW: slash and backslash in effective filename - why?

2010-11-11 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
Not a stack, but other files in subdirectories related to my standalone. -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution- boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Bob Sneidar Gesendet: Mittwoch, 10. November 2010 17:59 An: How to use

Re: alerts

2010-11-11 Thread Peter Brigham MD
On Nov 10, 2010, at 11:46 PM, Mark Smith wrote: Peter Brigham MD wrote: Here's the way I do it. I show a small display stack, the idea is just that it's a billboard to tell the user that the saving is occurring. It closes after the save is done. on doSave modeless stack savingAlert

LiveCode and the Mac App Store

2010-11-11 Thread ron barber
Greetings, I know about Apple's reversal of policy on the iPhone/pad and Rev's progress on providing a solution via LiveCode iOS to us to submit apps to that store. With the announcement of the upcoming App Store I was under the impression that applications made with LiveCode were also able to be

Re: LiveCode and the Mac App Store

2010-11-11 Thread Richard Gaskin
ron barber wrote: I know about Apple's reversal of policy on the iPhone/pad and Rev's progress on providing a solution via LiveCode iOS to us to submit apps to that store. With the announcement of the upcoming App Store I was under the impression that applications made with LiveCode were also

Re: LiveCode and the Mac App Store

2010-11-11 Thread Colin Holgate
I think Richard's answer just covered the topic about whether LiveCode apps are permitted now, but part of the question was about whether Xcode has to be used as the way to submit the app? Is there a walkthrough somewhere of the submission process for LiveCode apps?

Re: LiveCode and the Mac App Store

2010-11-11 Thread ron barber
Thanks RIchard I understand about LiveCode Mobile and Apple's policy reversals. But what about the upcoming non-iOS App store, the one for non-mobile applications. We don't use LiveCode mobile for these apps as well, right? Can we use desktop LiveCode to make desktop app for the upcoming desktop

Re: LiveCode and the Mac App Store

2010-11-11 Thread Pierre Sahores
Though I have a project starting next week which will have me making an iPad app -- I hope for my client's sake that the SDK terms remain stable enough to allow a positive ROI on that investment). Sure you will be successful ! Seems that SJ is really able to do, analyze and remove its own

Stripe in new window aera

2010-11-11 Thread Jean-Pierre Soto
Hello, I have some problem with a resizeStack handler. No problem on my Mac, but on window platform I get stripe in the new window aera and the script don't place object on the right place. Can anybody help me ? Revoulution 2.7.1 Jean-Pierre

Re: LiveCode and the Mac App Store

2010-11-11 Thread Kevin Miller
On 11/11/2010 13:41, ron barber runrev...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks RIchard I understand about LiveCode Mobile and Apple's policy reversals. But what about the upcoming non-iOS App store, the one for non-mobile applications. We don't use LiveCode mobile for these apps as well, right? Can we

Re: LiveCode and the Mac App Store

2010-11-11 Thread ron barber
Thank you Kevin for this affirmation. I appreciate all the efforts made to enable us to take advantage of these opportunities, both mobile and desktop. Please keep us updated on the progress of those submitting their apps. I hope to do so soon as well. Thanks Ron On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 12:05

Re: Creative Common Copyright Notice in Standalones

2010-11-11 Thread Richard Gaskin
Mark Wieder wrote: (disclaimer: the Creative Commons License rather explicitly states that it shouldn't be used for software, but that's what I use anyway because it comes the closest to exactly what I want my licensing to say for an open source project) Why does CCL have that limitation?

IDE/Standalone Performance Issues - A Light At The End of the Tunnel!

2010-11-11 Thread Peter Haworth
I think I have found the cause of the performance problems I have been experiencing. I had been referring to objects by their long name in various places in the offending code. I started changing the code to refer to the same objects by their short ID and each line of code I changed

Re: IDE/Standalone Performance Issues - A Light At The End of the Tunnel!

2010-11-11 Thread Bob Sneidar
Again, Peter, I think you have hit on something here. Good detective work. So it was not the SQL queries that were causing the delay? Good to know. I think it is a bug of some kind, but then I am the Bugmeister, so that is expected. I would submit a bug and see where it goes. Bob On Nov

Re: IDE/Standalone Performance Issues - A Light At The End of the Tunnel!

2010-11-11 Thread Richard Gaskin
Peter Haworth wrote: I think I have found the cause of the performance problems I have been experiencing. I had been referring to objects by their long name in various places in the offending code. I started changing the code to refer to the same objects by their short ID and each line of

revServer Documentation

2010-11-11 Thread Andrew Kluthe
Hey all, I am getting my hands wet for the first time playing with revServer through my on-rev account. I couldn't find much information on its features and what is and isn't available to revServer on the samples site. This seems to be the only documentation I could find. Is there a dictionary

Re: revServer Documentation

2010-11-11 Thread Devin Asay
On Nov 11, 2010, at 12:11 PM, Andrew Kluthe wrote: Hey all, I am getting my hands wet for the first time playing with revServer through my on-rev account. I couldn't find much information on its features and what is and isn't available to revServer on the samples site. This seems to be

Re: IDE/Standalone Performance Issues - A Light At The End of the Tunnel!

2010-11-11 Thread Bob Sneidar
Yeah, and Peter's issue was that with standalones, the problem is many orders of magnitude worse. Bob On Nov 11, 2010, at 11:04 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: So it seems that the overhead of resolving absolute object references (long form) is much higher than what the engine can do when

Re: revServer Documentation

2010-11-11 Thread Andrew Kluthe
Great! Thanks for the insight! :) -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/revServer-Documentation-tp3038378p3038424.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution

Re: IDE/Standalone Performance Issues - A Light At The End of the Tunnel!

2010-11-11 Thread Richard Gaskin
Bob Sneidar wrote: On Nov 11, 2010, at 11:04 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: So it seems that the overhead of resolving absolute object references (long form) is much higher than what the engine can do when you're able to hard-wire part of the reference (e.g., ...of card id tID...).

Re: Help: Id's can be completly unreliable

2010-11-11 Thread Claudi Cornaz
Hallo, Sorry for the delay but I have been quite busy. Jacqueline, I found the script it in the button revIDE of the revLibrary stack and it's called addObject private command addObject pObject, pObeyDontSearch, @rList, pScriptsOnly if word 1 of the name of pObject is among the words of

Re: Help: Id's can be completly unreliable

2010-11-11 Thread Bob Sneidar
HELLO!! Bob On Nov 11, 2010, at 12:15 PM, Claudi Cornaz wrote: local tId put the long id of pObject into tId if word 3 of tId is 0 then # Due to an engine bug, some objects can have IDs of zero. For now, we ignore this... --breakpoint end if

Gif issues

2010-11-11 Thread Andrew Kluthe
Hey there, I was following the beachball cursor post and decided to add a spinning daisy gif to my splash screen to compliment the status log that lets the user know what stage of initialization the program is in. My splash screen presents a login and upon authenticating the actual splash comes

Re: IDE/Standalone Performance Issues - A Light At The End of the Tunnel!

2010-11-11 Thread Peter Haworth
Thanks for delving into this Richard. Here's a small example section of code which I've changed to use the ID where it used to use the long name. The variables are: myIDholds the short ID of the control pselection a parameter passed into the command put the milliseconds into

Re: Gif issues

2010-11-11 Thread Bob Sneidar
Try putting the call to sqlYoga into a command or function and then calling it in time eg: send connectNow to this stack in 10 milliseconds Not sure if that will work but give it a try. Bob On Nov 11, 2010, at 1:27 PM, Andrew Kluthe wrote: Hey there, I was following the beachball

Re: IDE/Standalone Performance Issues - A Light At The End of the Tunnel!

2010-11-11 Thread Richard Gaskin
Peter Haworth wrote: Here's a small example section of code which I've changed to use the ID where it used to use the long name. The variables are: myIDholds the short ID of the control pselection a parameter passed into the command put the milliseconds into mymilliseconds

Re: IDE/Standalone Performance Issues - A Light At The End of the Tunnel!

2010-11-11 Thread Peter Haworth
See answers below. Pete Haworth What's interesting there is that the control is only being referenced three times: once to write the debug string, a second time to check the customKeys, and a third time to obtain the prop values. Given that it's just three object references and most

Re: alerts

2010-11-11 Thread Mark Smith
Peter Brigham MD wrote: The saving of the time in a customProp is because I have scripted things so the stack is automatically saved every 20 minutes, or at whatever interval the user chooses in the preferences. That feature was irrelevant to your question and I could have taken it

Environment variable displayed in the debugger

2010-11-11 Thread James Hurley
I just upgraded to 4.5.1 and was surprised to find that the environment variables ($LOGNAME, $SHELL, $PATH etc.) still show up in the debugger ahead of the script variables. I had assumed that that was something that going to be changed back to the practice employed in 4.0 where they were

Re: alerts

2010-11-11 Thread Mark Smith
Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: Hi Mark, Why don't you create an image, paste it wherever you want into your stack; then when you want it to appear, just show it; when you're through with it, then hide it. I've done this a number of times. I usually create such images using MacDraft, but I'm

Performance Mystery Solved - IT'S THE DATA STUPID!!

2010-11-11 Thread Peter Haworth
Figured out the IDE/Standalone performance issue, it's nothing to do with the code. I my last email I mentioned how I have a custom property holding the long names of all the controls on a card that need to have data loaded into them from my database. On closer inspection, the long name

Re: Performance Mystery Solved - IT'S THE DATA STUPID!!

2010-11-11 Thread Richard Gaskin
Peter Haworth wrote: Figured out the IDE/Standalone performance issue, it's nothing to do with the code. I my last email I mentioned how I have a custom property holding the long names of all the controls on a card that need to have data loaded into them from my database. On closer

RE: alerts

2010-11-11 Thread Mark Smith
Hi Thanks, more like: show something save this stack hide something I'm on the verge of testing something to be some sort of modeless stack/window. We shall see how it goes. Thanks for the suggestion - M From:

Re: Performance Mystery Solved - IT'S THE DATA STUPID!!

2010-11-11 Thread Monte Goulding
Unless you're explicitly purging the stacks, any access to a property of a stack file will load it into memory. The first access will take a hit only if the stack isn't already in memory, but subsequent accesses should be about as fast whether referring to just the stack name or the stack

Re: Performance Mystery Solved - IT'S THE DATA STUPID!!

2010-11-11 Thread Peter Haworth
Yes, that's what I'm seeing. With the references to my .rev filepath in the control names, the card I'm using to test was taking around 35 seconds to open. I went through and manually removed the references to the filepath (that's the only thing I changed I swear!) and built the

Re: Performance Mystery Solved - IT'S THE DATA STUPID!!

2010-11-11 Thread Richard Gaskin
Monte Goulding wrote: Unless you're explicitly purging the stacks, any access to a property of a stack file will load it into memory. The first access will take a hit only if the stack isn't already in memory, but subsequent accesses should be about as fast whether referring to just the

RE: alerts

2010-11-11 Thread Robert Brenstein
On 11.11.10 at 19:02 -0600 Mark Smith apparently wrote: Hi Thanks, more like: show something save this stack hide something I'm on the verge of testing something to be some sort of modeless stack/window. We shall see how it goes. Thanks for the suggestion - M If your saving is

Re: Performance Mystery Solved - IT'S THE DATA STUPID!!

2010-11-11 Thread Monte Goulding
Unless you're explicitly purging the stacks, any access to a property of a stack file will load it into memory. The first access will take a hit only if the stack isn't already in memory, but subsequent accesses should be about as fast whether referring to just the stack name or the

Re: Performance Mystery Solved - IT'S THE DATA STUPID!!

2010-11-11 Thread Pete Haworth
I guess my experience suggests strongly that the stack doesn't stay in memory but I can't prove it. Is there something I can write to my debug log that would help prove this one way or the other? Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote: Monte Goulding wrote: Unless you're explicitly

Preference Storage on iOS

2010-11-11 Thread Mike Kerner
How is anybody else storing preferences with their stacks for their iOS projects? For example, I want to store usernames and passwords for websites that my project is going to access, but those will vary from user to user. ___ use-revolution mailing

Re: Creative Common Copyright Notice in Standalones

2010-11-11 Thread Mark Wieder
Richard- Thursday, November 11, 2010, 8:00:16 AM, you wrote: (disclaimer: the Creative Commons License rather explicitly states that it shouldn't be used for software, but that's what I use anyway because it comes the closest to exactly what I want my licensing to say for an open source

Re: Performance Mystery Solved - IT'S THE DATA STUPID!!

2010-11-11 Thread Richard Gaskin
Monte Goulding wrote: I never said it wasn't loaded into memory. I know it is and it didn't make sense to me at the time that there would be such a performance difference. Maybe it was something to do with resolving the filename? I'm not sure, I just know it was slower. There's probably

Re: Performance Mystery Solved - IT'S THE DATA STUPID!!

2010-11-11 Thread Monte Goulding
There's probably some nuance I'm missing - here's a quick test which first uses the fileName of a stack to access a property, then the next run it opens the stack and gets the property by referring to the stack's short name (FWIW, I had saved the stack previously with its destroyStack set

Re: Performance Mystery Solved - IT'S THE DATA STUPID!!

2010-11-11 Thread Richard Gaskin
Monte Goulding wrote: I ran a quick test with a stack with 500 graphics and a slightly different script: on mouseUp put fld file into tStackFile -- delete stack tStackFile put the millisecs into t repeat with X=1 to the number of grcs of stack tStackFile put

Re: Gif issues

2010-11-11 Thread Andrew Kluthe
same thing happens. except now SQLYoga won't connect to my db at all. lol -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Gif-issues-tp3038619p3038999.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: Gif issues

2010-11-11 Thread Andrew Kluthe
I fixed the issue with it not connecting at all, it was an issue of not putting the result i was error checking for. Gif issue persists identically. Perhaps this is just not doable with SQLYoga's call. Would a blocking command stop gifs from animating? If yes, would it also keep a manual gif loop

Re: revServer Documentation

2010-11-11 Thread stephen barncard
You will need this obscure but incredibly important little document. http://samples.on-rev.com/irev-engine-notes.txt It's the only technical manual for the server product. On 11 November 2010 11:11, Andrew Kluthe and...@rjdfarm.com wrote: Hey all, I am getting my hands wet for the first

Re: Creative Common Copyright Notice in Standalones

2010-11-11 Thread Web Admin Himalayan Academy
On 11/11/10 3:56 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: My take on it from the CC web site is that it doesn't have specific clauses to cover source and object code. http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Frequently_Asked_Questions#Can_I_use_a_Creative_Commons_license_for_software.3F For an example of how ridiculous

Re: Performance Mystery Solved - IT'S THE DATA STUPID!!

2010-11-11 Thread Peter Haworth
I have to admit you guys left me behind a while ago. But I'm glad I may have created a platform for some knowledge that wasn't there before, plus I've got a fix for my problem so yes, definitely a good day! Pete Haworth On Nov 11, 2010, at 7:04 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Great work,

Audio Triggering + Mouse Event latency

2010-11-11 Thread Anthony Howe
Hiya Folks, LiveCode firsttimer here, but have been following this great tool for a year or so - just got started a month or so ago. I'm hoping that there's some experience that can help me on this critical feature that I need to sort to move ahead a bit faster than what the last couple of

Re: alerts

2010-11-11 Thread Peter Brigham MD
On Nov 11, 2010, at 6:15 PM, Mark Smith wrote: Peter Brigham MD wrote: The saving of the time in a customProp is because I have scripted things so the stack is automatically saved every 20 minutes, or at whatever interval the user chooses in the preferences. That feature was irrelevant to

OT: Morfik is now free

2010-11-11 Thread Mark Wieder
All- Morfik 3 has just been released, the licensing restrictions are gone, and it's now free. http://www.morfik.com/ -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to

Re: Environment variable displayed in the debugger

2010-11-11 Thread Thierry
Le 12 nov. 2010 à 00:14, James Hurley a écrit : I just upgraded to 4.5.1 and was surprised to find that the environment variables ($LOGNAME, $SHELL, $PATH etc.) still show up in the debugger ahead of the script variables. I had assumed that that was something that going to be changed