Re: iPadding around?

2010-01-28 Thread Bruce Robertson
On Jan 28, 2010, at 4:17 PM, Andre Garzia wrote: Bob, Linux has something very big to offer, freedom and source code. Never underestimate the power of that combination. Why not? Hasn't gone anywhere yet. ___ use-revolution mailing list

Re: BSD and HP9K700 standalones . . . ?

2010-01-17 Thread Bruce Robertson
On Jan 17, 2010, at 11:06 AM, Richmond Mathewson wrote: I myself, have a large number of computers rotting in my attic in Scotland (about 5 Performa 52xx Macs) which are perfectly serviceable, except for the fact that it would be JOLLY NICE to leverage features implemented in RunRevs 3.5

Re: Deriving an angle from three points

2009-12-16 Thread Bruce Robertson
No it didn't. On Dec 16, 2009, at 10:44 AM, Colin Holgate wrote: Well, of course it's a triangle, but describing it as a V helped explain which angle was wanted. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url

Re: Code Samples/Comparisons

2009-12-05 Thread Bruce Robertson
On Dec 5, 2009, at 10:12 AM, Colin Holgate wrote: On Dec 5, 2009, at 12:30 PM, Dave Cragg wrote: How would you do the following in Java/C/etc? get last item of line 2 of url http://ichart.finance.yahoo.com/table.csv?s=RBS.L; but rather, How would you get and display the latest

Re: Ethics... and the lack of it.

2009-11-30 Thread Bruce Robertson
This is nowhere near as clearcut as you claim. If you hire somebody as a direct employee, your answer is correct. If you pay an outside developer to develop the software, even though it may be to your design spec, the software IP is the property of the developer unless explicitly declared

Re: Interesting blog post - comments anyone?

2009-11-29 Thread Bruce Robertson
On Nov 29, 2009, at 9:29 AM, Marty Knapp wrote: Personally, I felt no compulsion to defend Rev because they let us know there was a debate going on at slash dot. Neither was I offended by that. When I'm getting ready to make a purchase (software or otherwise) I very much want to read what

Re: OT -- AppleScript Help

2009-10-29 Thread Bruce Robertson
Applescript list signup: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/listinfo/applescript-users On Oct 28, 2009, at 10:39 PM, Sivakatirswami wrote: I better move this over to the Applescript list (can you send me the URL?) because it's turning into a bigger issue: some network protocols changed or

Re: OT -- AppleScript Help

2009-10-28 Thread Bruce Robertson
It is best practice to eliminate tell statements where they are not required. Finder is not necessary for this command. choose folder set f to result On Oct 28, 2009, at 2:45 PM, Sarah Reichelt wrote: assume: AFP mount volume Varuna (server across the LAN) on desktop... this used to work

Re: OT -- AppleScript Help

2009-10-28 Thread Bruce Robertson
what it belongs to. By itself, a marginal error. But it is like trying to tell some property of a stack to do something that it doesn't do. Bruce Robertson wrote: It is best practice to eliminate tell statements where they are not required. Finder is not necessary for this command. choose

Re: Helper Application?

2009-10-03 Thread Bruce Robertson
J. Landman Gay wrote: Richard Gaskin wrote: The RevTalk Dictionary entry for the environment function lists helper application as one of the possible values the function can return: If the environment function returns helper application, Revolution is running as a helper

Re: 4.0 Webinar Invite - Its Today!

2009-06-23 Thread Bruce Robertson
That's a pity, works fine for me. They say it will be available shortly for download. Any news on this? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription

Re: Looking for ugly code comparisons WAS: Slashdotter looking for kids' programming language

2008-12-12 Thread Bruce Robertson
Oh, yes indeed ! old people of any age ! from 7 to 77, like Tintin... (if you're old enough to remember Tintin and Snowy) Wasn't that Rin's last name? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe,

Re: [OT] Free Images for your GUI

2008-09-24 Thread Bruce Robertson
More, more, excavated from the depths of my Hard disks: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RMimages/?yguid=254544547 sincerely, Richmond Mathewson. I see MESSAGES about images. I see no actual images or links to download. ___ use-revolution mailing

Re: Runrev at dBug Seattle?

2008-04-09 Thread Bruce Robertson
on the list put together a Rev spiel (or at least a bullet point list of things to cover) suitable for MUGs anywhere? Maybe Bruce and I could use it. Thanks - Phil Davis Bruce Robertson wrote: Anybody in the northwest care to try to set up a Revolution demo for dBug, Seattle's Mac user

Re: Runrev at dBug Seattle?

2008-04-09 Thread Bruce Robertson
Depends on what is needed to run a successful demo. I'm wiling to try, and I have used Runrev some, and I've been a dBug speaker before. Given good supporting material and examples I might be able to do OK but certainly a more experienced user would be better. On Apr 9, 2008, at 7:36 AM, Bruce

Runrev at dBug Seattle?

2008-04-08 Thread Bruce Robertson
Anybody in the northwest care to try to set up a Revolution demo for dBug, Seattle's Mac user group? http://www.dbug.org Main meetings are the second Wednesday of the month and I'd like to see Runrev at one of these meetings. Bruce Robertson ___ use

Re: Filemaker through ODBC

2007-10-07 Thread Bruce Robertson
Bruce- Wednesday, October 3, 2007, 8:57:43 PM, you wrote: Variables were introduced in several different ways beginning with FileMaker 7 over 2 years ago. Can you display a variable on a layout? I seem to remember trying this and not being able to do it without creating a new

Re: OpenBase - WAS: Re: Filemaker through ODBC

2007-10-03 Thread Bruce Robertson
Hiya, Anyone tried OpenBase (http://www.openbase.com/) as an alternative? I'll admit I haven't used it much, but found performance much better that FMP. I have seen a very impressive POS made with it, can't recall the name. Nice thing I noticed was that some functions are available as

Re: Filemaker through ODBC

2007-10-03 Thread Bruce Robertson
Richard- Don't get me wrong about this - I'm not dismissing FMP out of hand by any means. We run our accounting system on FileMaker using a system I first cobbled together some ten years ago. But the lack of variables hurts, as does the fact that programming in FileMaker is limited to

Re: XML and Revolutin

2006-08-28 Thread Bruce Robertson
Hi Rob, Dear All, I'm writing a small program that will read a text file and generate a corresponding SVG graphic. Ideally, the input text file would be readily parsed, and I'm wondering about using XML style construction. I'd appreciate pointers to any resources that would help me use

Revolution in Seattle?

2006-03-23 Thread Bruce Robertson
Got any idea how many Revolution users there might be in the Seattle area? Or good sources for demonstrations? At Seattle's Mac user group dBug http://www.dbug.org we are giving some thought to demonstrating Rev at a meeting. I'm trying to find good resources to support such an activity.

Re: Revolution in Seattle?

2006-03-23 Thread Bruce Robertson
I would think that there would be several users on campus downtown. Adam Engst, publisher of TidBits Newsletter (tidbits.com) might have local contacts. He as been a Mac activist (I think, in Seattle) back in the earliest days. Adam as you probably know is no longer in Seattle, but maybe

Re: massive xml docs

2006-02-09 Thread Bruce Robertson
Also in ideal these tools must be able handle queries to XML document. This can be Xpath, Xquery, or SQL/XML. ..and I'd advise staying away from XPath as well. It's gotten splintered into too many proprietary spinoffs. XQuery is much easier to read (IMO) and is pretty standardized these

Re: massive xml docs

2006-02-08 Thread Bruce Robertson
On Feb 8, 2006, at 9:44 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can use revcreatexmltree, and just tell it to not build the dom tree/or keep the document in memory, and handle the messages. revCreateXMLTree(field XML Data,true,false,true) But won't that still choke on something as big as

Re: Massive XML docs

2006-02-08 Thread Bruce Robertson
Hello Everyone. I have some very large XML files ( 100mb or more) that I would to parse. And this thing has to be fast. I mean FAST. Since I have done almost no work with rev and XML, I am looking for advice on how to proceed I've been asking the same questions of Emmanuel over at

Re: database

2005-10-24 Thread Bruce Robertson
no offense. no boasting... I did the relational lookup in FMP, and it took minutes! So I opted for a double-linked-list of records (this was a hierarchical database - the relations were previously based on a parent id but searching this was horribly slow... So I made the search

Re: [Slightly OT] - Of Ajax, Ruby on Rails, and 37 Signals

2005-10-13 Thread Bruce Robertson
Rodney. I have to say this is one of the most reasoned and intelligent responses I've seen to the implied question, Why doesn't everyone use Revolution? It serves as a good reminder of a couple of great Truths of Programming. First, no one tool is suited for everything. Second, busy

Re: AppleScript - Silent Running?

2005-09-23 Thread Bruce Robertson
Er, what's not true - that you're forced to see FM Pro do its stuff when using AppleScript or that you need activate at the start of each script? I'm happy to believe the latter isn't required, but I don't think it helps since if this is left out I still see FM Pro screens flashing away.

Re: AppleScript - Silent Running?

2005-09-21 Thread Bruce Robertson
I use AppleScript to send hide yourself to FM Pro whenever possible, but this doesn't help when I'm trying to access the database since I have to start my AppleScripts with 'activate'. Bruce Robertson: Not true. Er, what's not true - that you're forced to see FM Pro do its stuff when

Re: AppleScript - Silent Running?

2005-09-21 Thread Bruce Robertson
I don't have FMkr, so cannot test, but will the database respond and run if it is 'minimized' on the dock? hidden dock? -layouts will still function, even if the window is 10x10 pixels -not sure about hidden databases running FMkr scripts -paste and image that looks like the desktop, so when

Re: AppleScript - Silent Running?

2005-09-20 Thread Bruce Robertson
You could use the built-in web interfaces. I believe FileMaker can supply HTML or XML. This has the advantage of being silent as you say, and cross-platform. On Sep 20, 2005, at 3:47 AM, Peter Reid wrote: I'm using AppleScript to access a local FileMaker Pro 7 database under OS X

Re: AppleScript - Silent Running?

2005-09-20 Thread Bruce Robertson
I'm using AppleScript to access a local FileMaker Pro 7 database under OS X 10.3/10.4 from my Rev stack. This works fine except there's an awful lot of screen flashing going on - i.e. every time I use some AppleScript to access the FM Pro database, FM Pro becomes visible and is the front

Re: Another empirical speed test

2005-03-12 Thread Bruce Robertson
# Test 1 code repeat with K1 = 1 to the number of lines in DerData put item 3 of line K1 of DerData into line K1 of DerData end repeat # Time: 18 seconds # Test 2 code put into Rezult repeat (the number of lines in DerData) put (item 3 of line 1 of DerData) return before Rezult

Re: Using stacks as a database for very large data sets

2005-02-28 Thread Bruce Robertson
Jonathan, Maybe for Rev 3.0 they will work out such a thing If they don't, I have--if you're ready to go client/serer. Well, that sounds like the right approach. Brief summary? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com

Re: Mac add-on for PCs [OT?]

2005-01-15 Thread Bruce Robertson
I'm sure others can think of other neat scenarios for this tiny (2 in X 6.5 in X 6.5 in) box. Sitting here, surrounded by five Macs and a PC of varying ages and capabilities, I can't think of a single reason why I'd need one of those. But I *still* want one anyway. Please, somebody help me.

Re: Cross platform search database

2004-12-07 Thread Bruce Robertson
The easiest way to set up all of the searching, etc. for a large database would be to store all of the data in an SQL database and let the database server worry about indexing, searching, and sorting results; however, this would require there to be an SQL database server running on the

Re: Multiple shell commands

2004-11-22 Thread Bruce Robertson
PHP remains a web thing alas... And RunRev lacks the threaded execution... Nope. It's accessible from the command line. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution

No peep from Malta?

2004-11-17 Thread Bruce Robertson
Not a peep from the Malta conference? ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution

Re: Well, which licence do I need ?

2004-09-08 Thread Bruce Robertson
On 9/7/04 8:25 PM, Bruce Robertson wrote: Rev Support seem to be a bit behind, I asked a few days ago and still have heard no reply. We don't work over the weekend generally, but I answered you yesterday. Sorry, I don't see anything from you. Check your spam box. My what

Re: Well, which licence do I need ?

2004-09-08 Thread Bruce Robertson
On 9/7/04 8:25 PM, Bruce Robertson wrote: Rev Support seem to be a bit behind, I asked a few days ago and still have heard no reply. We don't work over the weekend generally, but I answered you yesterday. OK, I see the message. It started with a case number and then a quote from my

Re: Well, which licence do I need ?

2004-09-07 Thread Bruce Robertson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] a *crit : You are probably best advised to address your needs and pricing request to [EMAIL PROTECTED] yes I know, but I like to ask publicly first, just in case someone throws in some good independent advice... Rev Support seem to be a bit behind, I asked a few days

Re: CNC software by Rev

2004-07-09 Thread Bruce Robertson
Hi Tom. You are well into an area I would like to go one day. I have been looking at controlling a panorama head for photo work. I am very interested in what you are doing with telescopes as well. My short research so far leads me to want to investigate using the printer port, feeding

Re: 3D project.

2004-07-07 Thread Bruce Robertson
It's j-va... did you try? Yess, that would the reason I made the statement wouldn't it? I don't know what you're talking about. It's a standard Classic application creation date 7/16/2002. Nothing Jova about it. Here's what the docs say: This set of documents provides you minimum

Re: 3D project.

2004-07-06 Thread Bruce Robertson
I have a project which requires serious high-level programming, way beyond my abilities. I need to build a 3D perspective rendering engine to demonstrate a system I recently developed. Consider Smile and SmileLab from Satimage. http://www.satimage.fr/software/en/index.html Install Smile

Re: 3D project.

2004-07-06 Thread Bruce Robertson
I used to believe java was a snail, until I saw anfi's java applets at http://anfyteam.com about 4 years ago... Looks like it hasn't changed since; it wants to start Classic. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: ANN: new version of CGI-Tool Stack

2004-06-13 Thread Bruce Robertson
Hi folks, After being in hospital for a while due to an evil mosquito bite, I am back coding. First it's an annoucement of a new version of CGI-Tool stack. This is a simple Helper stack made by Me, Andre Alves Garzia ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), to help people setup MC Engine and LibCGI with

Re: [OT] Scriptable DMG tool?

2004-05-12 Thread Bruce Robertson
I build a lot of DMGs, but Apple's Disk Utility isn't scriptable so I have no way to automate that end of my build process. Any of you know of a scriptable alternative to Disk Utility for making DMGs? From MacScripter http://bbs.applescript.net/viewtopic.php?t=8186highlight=disk+image Use

Re: Revolution questions

2004-04-18 Thread Bruce Robertson
I was very impressd with the information on your site about Revolution. I would like to know the state of XML support, Sound and USB on different platforms. I can't answer your questions. But I'm always curious about real world XML applications, what is it that you do/hope to do with XML?

Re: Hello from a Filemaker renegade

2004-04-11 Thread Bruce Robertson
In a way, Rev could be said to be far closer to 4D than to FMP, as 4D provides a rich programming language and event-driven UIs. But even then, IMNSHO comparisons favor Rev's simpler language and greater variety of supported platforms, not to mention the strength of relying on MySQL for

Re: Hello from a Filemaker renegade

2004-04-06 Thread Bruce Robertson
3. Are there functions, plug-ins, tool-sets to handle complex relationships, entity diagrams, data validation? Can't help on that for I do not understand what you're meaning... =/ Those are all very basic database terms. The fact that they are unfamiliar and do not appear much in Rev

Re: waveforms

2004-03-23 Thread Bruce Robertson
Any of you have an algorithm or external for generating wave form images from MP3 or other audio files? I suggest you look at the very powerful scientific analysis tools available with Smile, the French applescript editor. Smile is actually a very powerful and very comprehensive system used for

Re: Database Experience

2004-03-22 Thread Bruce Robertson
FileMaker doesn't seem to understand the concept of record locking when multiple users on the internet are trying to access the same record at the exact same time. And you do? MySQL does? I don't think so. The internet is stateless. If you want to build a custom record locking solution for

Re: Database Experience

2004-03-22 Thread Bruce Robertson
On Mar 23, 2004, at 12:19 AM, Bruce Robertson wrote: And you do? MySQL does? I don't think so. The internet is stateless. If you want to build a custom record locking solution for web transactions, you can do it and you will face the same issues in any system. It only takes a very simple

Re: Database Experience

2004-03-22 Thread Bruce Robertson
And you do? I don't think you have to be insulting if you want to disagree, or you have anything positive to add. Why do you think people are starting to not ask their important questions on this list? Its a bad trend. Is it a better trend to not understand a product or technology and yet

Re: use-revolution Digest, Vol 5, Issue 123

2004-03-06 Thread Bruce Robertson
What I want to know is Lego Mindstorms controllable via Revolution? I think it is in the serial realm... I know there is a Mac version out there last time I searched. I think it was an educational version. And there is something wrong with that? The educational version is

Re: use-revolution Digest, Vol 5, Issue 123

2004-03-06 Thread Bruce Robertson
And thanks for the info about Robolab--I wasn't aware of it. Do you know where it is available and whether it runs in OS X? AFAIK the exclusive distributor is Pitsco, www.pitsco.com You will find the Robolab software under the Mindstorms links.

Re: [OT] the first look at MTML, Yeah RunRev!

2004-02-07 Thread Bruce Robertson
Hi Revolutionaries, In case anyone is interested in the first look at this, here is a link to download site where I will try to sell it later: http://www.gizmotron.org/intuition/download.html Interesting name coincidence. At Macworld, I was looking over the CAD application Design Intuition

Re: List etiquette suggestion

2004-01-31 Thread Bruce Robertson
Frank- One thing that would help is if people adhered to the RFC-standard signature trimmer of -- (That's dash-dash-space) on a line by itself. Most modern email clients will trim everything after that automatically when replying. -- I thought that destroyed digest readers ability to

Re: Opening a Rev app from a browser?

2004-01-31 Thread Bruce Robertson
revHTTPd is an embedable (hell my english is horrible sometimes) server, it's a frontscript (a button), you put it on a stack, and then it is able to serve itself and it's substacs like they were web apps. You can try my home revHTTPd server and learn more about it at

Re: a good laptop PC for Revolution MIDI?

2004-01-22 Thread Bruce Robertson
The iBook has a hinge problem that is quickly becoming an epidemic on machines approaching (or past) their warranty expiration. If you go for an iBook, -please- also get the AppleCare extended warranty as this hinge repair $$ is more than the cost of AppleCare. The ribbon cable that passes

Re: Auto Play on PCs

2004-01-17 Thread Bruce Robertson
When you are in less of a hurry you can give me a clue as to how to do that on OS X. Dar Scott Autorun off CD on Macs is a Quicktime setting. Since autorun is a source of virus propagation, it has been recommended to turn this preference off since about Sytem 7. It is off by default, and

Re: Interfaces: PC and MAC and the screenGamma property...

2004-01-13 Thread Bruce Robertson
Yep, but how to get two buttons (and a scroll wheel) on my new i-Book? Cash, check or charge all seem to work. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution

Re: Apple script problems

2003-12-20 Thread Bruce Robertson
I don't have FileMaker so I can't test this, but what do you get if you say: get every record as string in the AppleScript? AppleScript has decided to give you a list and that may end up easiest to process, but try coercing it to a string and see what happens. Cheers, Sarah [EMAIL

Re: Apple script problems

2003-12-20 Thread Bruce Robertson
Yes, I am bound to use FMP. All the volunteers at the campaign headquarters use FMP to do data entry and construct walking lists, etc. I am still surprised that AppleScript doesn't do the normal thing and just return a comma/return (or tab/return) delimited text file instead of the curly

Re: Update available for license.rev

2003-08-04 Thread Bruce Robertson
My educated guess would be that if you are supposed to be replacing a file, than the replacement should have the same name (and be in the same location) as the file it is replacing... Just an educated guess,,, So your educated guess, upon receiving explicit instructions in the Rev

Re: Update available for license.rev

2003-08-02 Thread Bruce Robertson
Unzip it, rename it, and replace your existing license.rev file with it, to be found in the Revolution folder, on the top level directory. Sounds like instructions to me... ;-) So I should rename the files I was specifically talking about in my question, distribution builder and revlibrary.

Re: [ANN] New MySQL tests stack

2003-07-31 Thread Bruce Robertson
I have fixed my MySQL test stack so that it can correctly handle Rev 2.0.2 and it's little database problem. The text of my web page has not yet changed to reflect the new version, but the download link will get you the new one. If you have been using my stack and have got Rev 2.0.2, download

Re: Database access in Rev Studio

2003-07-24 Thread Bruce Robertson
MySQL tests is one of my stacks - I guess I forget to claim any credit for that one :-) Since those of us with current licenses are apparently not allowed to get 2.0.2 :-( I can't give you any advice. I have only ever tried test databases with at most about 10 records. Were you able to get

Re: Build Distribution problem in rc1

2003-05-30 Thread Bruce Robertson
On Wednesday, May 21, 2003, at 02:36 PM, Derek Huby wrote: Hi folks, When I try to 'Build Distribution' with Rev 2.0 rc1 (Licensed - SBE), absolutely nothing happens.(OS X.2.4). Is it me...? And for me, it comes up with a 2/3 height window. Only a sliver of the bottom buttons is

Re: Robots RunRev?

2003-04-05 Thread Bruce Robertson
I just hooked up with an 8 year-old through the Big Brother, Big Sister program who is interested in robots. Anyone had any experience with interfacing RunRev with a robot? Maybe through the serial port? Look into the Lego stuff. The Lego Mindstorms software is Windows only; but RoboLab is

Re: RR and FileMaker

2003-04-02 Thread Bruce Robertson
The recent discussion on interfacing FileMaker and Rev has aroused my curiosity. I have occasion, especially at election time, to work with FileMaker. Since I have never been able to decipher the arcane scripting language in FileMaker, my alternative has been to export the FileMaker file

Re: Relational database capabilities?

2002-11-02 Thread Bruce Robertson
There's loads of stuff about FileMaker and Rev in the searchable archives at http://www.google.com/advanced_search?q=site:lists.runrev.com I prefer the web companion method, which briefly... Quote You can use FileMaker Pro web companion to exchange data between FMP and Rev either on

Re: Mouse lock

2002-10-28 Thread Bruce Robertson
Hi Bruce, Rev 1.1.1 is known to have a few issues with the Appearance Manager that shipped with MacOS X 10.2 Jaguar. Have you tried changing the 'Look and feel' to 'MacOS Emulated' in the menu 'View' ? Hope this helped, OK, that sorta fixes the problem. But the text selection is kind of

Mouse lock

2002-10-27 Thread Bruce Robertson
I purchased Revolution at MacWorld SF 2001 last January. I am finally trying to go through the tutorial. However, the tutorial says you can use the option key to copy text from the tutorial window. This does not work. Once you have depressed the option key, Revolution never thinks you have let