Garrett, et al.,
I don't think RunRev will mind us talking about Constellation on the
board as they're selling it now! They were always very good about
that anyway. This post is in direct response to Garret's problems
with finding a development environs where he feels more comfort and
On Feb 14, 2006, at 1:29 PM, Jerry Daniels wrote:
http://www.daniels-mara.com/products/
Yeah, bought that last year also. At the time it made things
worse for me. But I haven't run it again yet, so maybe I should
give it a try again. :-)
Simply no comparison. As far as I'm
At 4:23 PM -0600 2/13/2006, J. Landman Gay wrote:
Good points. The docs need to clearly describe the conventions that
are being used when documenting the dictionary entries. As you point
out, many of us are so used to these conventions that we don't even
think about it any more. What you are
On Feb 14, 2006, at 10:29 AM, Jerry Daniels wrote:
This is the stuff of alternate workflows. Subtle but dramatic. And
the perfect add-on sale for Revolution, if I may say so.
Constellation can go as far as we can imagine it. Why not give it a
shot?
Best,
Jerry Daniels
Eh. I
On Feb 14, 2006, at 10:29 AM, Jerry Daniels wrote:
Garrett, et al.,
I don't think RunRev will mind us talking about Constellation on
the board as they're selling it
Well, it helps if I freaking update now and then! I'm using like
version 1.3 here.
Just updated to the latest, and
Garrett,
Me and Mary Jane (the Mrs. Daniels) were talking about your situation
with Constellation, etc. and I was quite hopeful you'd flourish
under Constellation 2.1's UI. The elements of v2.1 aren't all that
different than v1.3, but they're being used much more effectively.
Mary Jane
As you know I'm a newbie to Rev, but this gives what seems (in this forum) to
be a fairly unique perspective. Most of you are either experts, or well up
the curve. So maybe I can give you the perspective of a (possible) new Rev
user.
It's the Docs that are the problem for newbies, and it's the
Ken-
Monday, February 13, 2006, 6:10:15 AM, you wrote:
I agree with those that say Rev needs something in addition to the tutorials
for newbies. I think they need sets of simple working examples with a
variety of script examples.
When www.runrev.com comes back up, take a look at the
Ken Apthorpe [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I'll finish with an analogy. Back in the days when getting up a web site
was all the rage, the hand coders would sneer at WSIWYG web tools like the
early versions of Dreamweaver and Cyberstudio. Now what are even the
professionals using? Dreamweaver
On Feb 13, 2006, at 6:10 AM, Ken Apthorpe wrote:
[snip]
It's the Docs that are the problem for newbies, and it's the docs
that turn
us away. I tried Rev in about 2003, and decided it was just too
hard. I was
hoping things had got a bit easier by now, but it dosn't look like
it to me.
Marty Billingsley wrote:
Ken Apthorpe [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I'll finish with an analogy. Back in the days when getting up a web site
was all the rage, the hand coders would sneer at WSIWYG web tools like the
early versions of Dreamweaver and Cyberstudio. Now what are even the
Garrett Hylltun wrote:
One other thing. The IDE in Rev kind of throws me off also, but I
believe it's due to myself having Attention Deficit Disorder. I can
easily work in an IDE that is simply and editor with a few buttons
and tools that I can open and close when needed, but with Rev,
On Feb 13, 2006, at 12:49 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote:
[snip]
I found, to my surprise, that professionals aren't using
Dreamweaver and
GoLive and are, in fact, coding by hand.
I think it depends on which professionals. I haven't seen stats,
but I know anecdotally that a great many
Ken Apthorpe wrote:
I wanted a pulldown menu button to go into a stack menu; the submenu items
are to open cards in the mainstack. The here is what the Docs say about the
message for a submenu item:
menuPick chosenItem[|submenuName],previousTab
on menuPick theItem -- in a pulldown menu
if
On Feb 13, 2006, at 1:17 PM, Alex Tweedly wrote:
Garrett Hylltun wrote:
One other thing. The IDE in Rev kind of throws me off also, but
I believe it's due to myself having Attention Deficit Disorder.
I can easily work in an IDE that is simply and editor with a few
buttons and
Garrett Hylltun wrote:
On Feb 13, 2006, at 12:49 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote:
It's a question of productivity, of the tradeoffs between hand-coded
tight HTML vs. rapid development. And most of the code is the same,
whether generated by hand or by machine. p is p whether typed
by hand or
The issue I was trying to focus on is popularity, not code efficiency. To
put it another way, RR's market share. As Richard Gaskin points out,
productivity is a major factor (for newbies also).
As you asked, I have no background in Hypercard, Metacard, Supercard or any
programming. I've used
On 2/14/06, Ken Apthorpe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks for the tip about the scripting conference stacks, and to J.
Landman
Gay for a much clearer explanation of menuPick. Now that the Rev site is
back up, I can do some more ferreting.
Oh, and if you haven't figured it out by now, the
Kay C Lan wrote:
About to download 2.7 with the new docs and a hope that they are a vast
improvement:-)
They are, they are. :)
--
Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
Ken,
You must be a very powerful fellow. Others have come asking for
better docs for a long, long time; years, in fact. You come and ask,
and within hours, there they are. Unbelievable. :)
Mark
On Feb 13, 2006, at 4:20 PM, Ken Apthorpe wrote:
All I suggest is that if RR or anyone
Yes Mark, I've just seen the Rev 2.7 promos, and I thought maybe I should
pour some libations to whatever gods are responsible. So tonight I'll toast
the Rev people (there's probably quite a crowd so I'll have to down quite a
few glasses). And between mouthfuls, pray the Mac version arrives soon.
On 12/7/05 1:12 AM, Geoff Canyon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Dec 2, 2005, at 12:52 PM, Jeanne A. E. DeVoto wrote:
Personally, I think the root cause of the problem is the inflexible
syntax for non-built-in commands and functions. What I'd like to
see is the ability to separate parameters
Jerry, you seem to have a major attitude problem. You don't get it at
all and your 'disgruntled customer' bit doesn't really flow here.
Everyone else has been pretty nice I think -- the only real FLAMER
here seems to be you!!
Stop the bad vibes now - go troll somewhere else, please.
sqb
It appears that our friend Jerry Saperstein hates everyone and
everything. Maybe in the 'business' too long...
It seems he likes the word zealot. A little research shows many
complaints and insults on all kinds of forums and lists.
Web Quote: By all means, though, avoid Apple,. While
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 2:52 AM
To: How to use Revolution
Subject: Re: Why isn't Rev more popular?
It appears that our friend Jerry Saperstein hates everyone and everything.
Maybe in the 'business' too long...
It seems he likes the word zealot. A little research shows many
complaints
Hi Jerry and all others,
As you know it, I never reply to mails about Rev philosophy or
criticism.
And I am very happy that all that occurred when we slept in Europe :-)
All that can go round in circles a very long time, going on spoiling
this list.
The clever will be the first to stop as
Man,
This list is really getting corny... No more talk about xtalk
or rev stuff. It's been 3 weeks im deleting nearly every message
in my 3 mailboxes (and the new spam)...
Business applications? Man, i run a bank's storage systems with rev
for some 2000 users everyday since 5 years!!! Never a
On Mon, 05 Dec 2005 21:00:58 -0800, Richard Gaskin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[snip]
In OS X, Mac Classic, and Windows, it's common to define the
parameters
for the print job in the Print window, with some settings defined in
Page Setup. Rev gives you access to both:
answer printer --
Just had to say I know I like a *bit* of a moan now and then, hey
this is *way* over the top!
I have just one question:
Is this a five minute argument or the full half hour?
Think everyone one should take a chill-pill comptemplate 1200 baud
modems for a while!
All the Best
Dave
Richard Gaskin wrote:
I haven't used M.Y.O.B. in years, but recall it being a good program.
But I'm surprised neither of these has ever asked you to tell them what
printing you're using.
Just for the record, I've used MYOB for years as my accounting program,
and it puts up the print job
On 12/5/05 10:16 PM, Robert Brenstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Personally I don't think Revolution is suitable for such
applications and no one here has actually provided unassailable evidence
that Revolution has been used for such.
Jerry
Do you really believe it or are you just saying
On 12/5/05 10:20 PM, Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jerry Saperstein wrote:
But your point is valid: Revolution is not well suited for business
needs.
Business is pretty broad, and no doubt one could defined it in ways
that might make Rev look insufficient.
E.g. A heavy
On 12/5/05 11:06 PM, Sarah Reichelt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Wow! What an amazing set of conclusions for anyone to reach!
I've searched the mailing list archives for your name and haven't
found any previous posts from you, but I guess you must have been
lurking for several years in order to
On 12/6/05 12:18 AM, Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jerry Saperstein wrote:
Unremarkably
...yet he goes on to remark:
those who have been the quickest to flame me appear to
be those with pecuniary interest of one sort or another in Revolution,
whether as investors, developers
Discussion of suitability in such general terms is totally pointless.
If you have something very specific in mind, lay out the specs and
people will tell you whether it is possible and what the bottlenecks
will be.
Revolution is no less and no more suitable for business applications
than
On 12/6/05 11:55 AM, J. Landman Gay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Richard Gaskin wrote:
I haven't used M.Y.O.B. in years, but recall it being a good program.
But I'm surprised neither of these has ever asked you to tell them what
printing you're using.
Just for the record, I've used
Hershel Fisch wrote:
On 12/6/05 11:55 AM, J. Landman Gay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Richard Gaskin wrote:
I haven't used M.Y.O.B. in years, but recall it being a good program.
But I'm surprised neither of these has ever asked you to tell them what
printing you're using.
Just for the
Hershel Fisch wrote:
On 12/5/05 10:20 PM, Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Business is pretty broad, and no doubt one could defined it in ways
that might make Rev look insufficient.
E.g. A heavy distribution wholesaler, accounting package, a big retailer
The medical software I've
Richard,
I really enjoyed the rest of your response. I agree that the vertical
markets are just at the tip of the iceberg. I have found a very nice
spot in my work and am trying to expand my understanding of how to
approach a larger market with it. Rev has proved itself as a very
useful
I haven't used M.Y.O.B. in years, but recall it being a good program.
But I'm surprised neither of these has ever asked you to tell them what
printing you're using.
Just for the record, I've used MYOB for years as my accounting program,
and it puts up the print job dialog before every
Thomas McGrath III, before get started I want to thank you for posting
your pics to frappr. Your two pictures are a great compliment to one
another: one looks like the serious philosopher, the other like a kid
having so much fun he might burst. Good stuff. :)
This hit home with me, as
Richard,
Thanks, (grinning) I had fun with frapper.
I did do a send in time message from a mouseDown that then checked
for both mouseDowns and mouseUps during repeats and if neither
existed then it stopped the loop. That part was fine and worked like
a charm. The part that would have been
On Dec 2, 2005, at 12:52 PM, Jeanne A. E. DeVoto wrote:
Personally, I think the root cause of the problem is the inflexible
syntax for non-built-in commands and functions. What I'd like to
see is the ability to separate parameters with spaces as well as
commas, so you could do something
Well said, Bob! Getting Rev into the sounds familiar category would be
good first step - but that means having it either marketed more
aggressively, or it means getting in through the back door.
And then what's going to be,if a professional programmer can't even write a
simple print without
On Dec 5, 2005, at 6:05 PM, Hershel Fisch wrote:
And then what's going to be,if a professional programmer can't even
write a
simple print without the user should have to intervene to choose
printers
and styles and and
Or if wanted to add a timer constant running from when the
On 12/5/05 2:05 PM, Hershel Fisch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And then what's going to be,if a professional programmer can't even write a
simple print without the user should have to intervene to choose printers
and styles and and
Or if wanted to add a timer constant running from when the
And then what's going to be,if a professional programmer can't even write a
simple print without the user should have to intervene to choose printers
and styles and and
Or if wanted to add a timer constant running from when the application is
launched.
Rev is good for games or so.
Hershel Fisch wrote:
And then what's going to be,if a professional programmer can't even write a
simple print without the user should have to intervene to choose printers
and styles and and
Styles? What do you want to do?
Or if wanted to add a timer constant running from when the
On 12/5/05 7:17 PM, Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi, First of all I appreciate every body's comments, I definitely wasn't
trying to be some sort of nasty or ...
Hershel Fisch wrote:
And then what's going to be,if a professional programmer can't even write a
simple print without the
Thanks, Hershel Fisch
Rev is not at the state of being used for commercial business applications.
And I forgot to mention the lacking of a normal table fld lets not discuss
it because my blood pressure goes up. By the way thanks to altuit saved my
life and the reporting thanks to Jan.
Or if wanted to add a timer constant running from when the application is
launched.
Timers work well. You might givem 'em a try.
What do you want to do?
Maybe I don't know how to use it, but for what I need it I don¹t see a way
it should work. E.g. My app. Gets turned off probably
-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hershel Fisch
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 7:50 PM
To: How to use Revolution
Subject: Re: Why isn't Rev more popular?
Thanks, Hershel Fisch
Rev is not at the state of being used for commercial business
applications.
And I
Jerry,
I wrote both eXpertSystem (based upon IdeaFisher, but NOT Ideafisher,
which is probably what you downloaded and crashed) and ButtonGadget.
Interesting is your incorrect assessment that ButtonGadget was trivial.
It took many more hours of programming than eXpertSystem. BTW, we have
Jerry Saperstein wrote:
Criticism of Revolution generally apparently is generally
disapproved of here. I've seen a number of valid criticisms dismissed in the
same way as yours have been.
Criticism of specific features is often valid and usually results in two
responses, neither of
Personally I don't think Revolution is suitable for such
applications and no one here has actually provided unassailable evidence
that Revolution has been used for such.
Jerry
Do you really believe it or are you just saying it to heat up the discussion?
Discussion of suitability in
I don't make commercial apps for sale but I do write prototypes for
development on PDAs and cell phones. Revolution does exactly what I
need to make a living with it as our primary tool.
Tom
P.S. I don't see why you need to be rude calling if monks a
plaything and ButtonGadget a trivial
Wow! What an amazing set of conclusions for anyone to reach!
I've searched the mailing list archives for your name and haven't
found any previous posts from you, but I guess you must have been
lurking for several years in order to feel competent to make such
sweeping statements.
] On Behalf Of Sarah Reichelt
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 10:06 PM
To: How to use Revolution
Subject: Re: Why isn't Rev more popular?
Wow! What an amazing set of conclusions for anyone to reach!
I've searched the mailing list archives for your name and haven't found any
previous posts from you
You wouldn't be the Jerry Saperstein of Font Bank fame who was accussed
back in the 90's of stealing clipart intellectual property and reselling
it...would you? If so, how'd that turn out?
http://www.60-seconds.com/articles/54.html
Just wondering.
-Chipp
Jerry Saperstein wrote:
Hershel Fisch wrote:
On 12/5/05 7:17 PM, Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Styles? What do you want to do?
Meaning, color or gray scale on color printers, print quality on inkjets;
best, normal or draft, orientation; portrait or landscape and so on.
Selecting a printer goes along
OOPS, that was supposed to go directly to Jerry. Our 'tit for tat'
personal thread will hopefully be resolved by Altuit refunding him money
for ButtonGadget.
Sorry list for the OT post. My bad :-(
-Chipp
Chipp Walters wrote:
You wouldn't be the Jerry Saperstein of Font Bank fame who was
Jerry Saperstein wrote:
Unremarkably
...yet he goes on to remark:
those who have been the quickest to flame me appear to
be those with pecuniary interest of one sort or another in Revolution,
whether as investors, developers of Revolution based tools or vendors of
third-party products and
will slime you.
What a joke you are.
Jerry
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chipp Walters
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 10:59 PM
To: How to use Revolution; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Why isn't Rev more popular?
You wouldn't
PROTECTED]; How to use Revolution
Subject: Re: Why isn't Rev more popular?
OOPS, that was supposed to go directly to Jerry. Our 'tit for tat'
personal thread will hopefully be resolved by Altuit refunding him money for
ButtonGadget.
Sorry list for the OT post. My bad :-(
-Chipp
Chipp Walters wrote
Jerry,
Yes, I have been lurking here for months reading the messages on a
daily basis. Some of the problems I've encountered in my
experimentation
with Revolution have indeed been answered here without a need on my
part to
ask a question. Yes, I purchased Revolution with a specific
Jerry,
My apologies for my tackless and inappropriate post to the list. It
truly was an accident as I used 'reply' to get to a paragraph from which
to comment.
Please excuse me, and I will be glad to answer or discuss *any*
questions you may have regarding Revolution.
Just so you know,
And, what you're doing is somehow better?
I doubt it...
At least Chipp had the decency to apologize; you apparently lack even
that.
Judy
On Mon, 5 Dec 2005, Jerry Saperstein wrote:
Sure, Chipp. I bet.
Just a little acccident that happens to attempt to defame me.
Yeah,
Jerry,
FontBank™, aside, what experimentation with Rev did you do? What
problems did you encounter?
Were you looking for a solution in Forensics like EnCase™?
Or is this something for the Great Discussions forum?
Quote: It is eminently possible to disagree without being
disagreeable.
It seems he likes the word zealot. A little research shows many
complaints and insults on all kinds of forums and lists.
Web Quote: By all means, though, avoid Apple,. While individual
users tend to be zealots, the company occupies its miniscule market
share for many valid reasons.
Web
: Why isn't Rev more popular?
And, what you're doing is somehow better?
I doubt it...
At least Chipp had the decency to apologize; you apparently lack even that.
Judy
On Mon, 5 Dec 2005, Jerry Saperstein wrote:
Sure, Chipp. I bet.
Just a little acccident that happens to attempt
Because, Chipp was wrong to have replied to the list rather than to you
personally. And he apologized.
Presumably (because you haven't stated otherwise), you KNEW that you were
defaming to the list... and did so anyway.
I still don't see your morally superior point.
Judy
On Tue, 6 Dec 2005,
You're wrong yet again:
If Chipp's intent was NOT to post to the list, as he stated, then there
was NO intent to defame, despite your claim of mindreading abilities.
And, I didn't attack you personally, only your posting to flame Chipp, for
ostensibly flaming you, for which he apologized.
You
Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 22:50:55 -0600
From: Jerry Saperstein [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Why isn't Rev more popular?
snip
I've asked the folks at RunTime to honor their promise of a refund.
snip
Hmm, another one threatening to leave me alone! Somebody who argues for
a living
Jerry Saperstein wrote:
Whatever Chipp's intent was with
regard to whom he sent his posting, there can be no doubt of his intention
to defame.
My intent, childish as it seems now, was to tease you about your own
product shortcomings *privately*. I am sorry for that. It was never to
defame. I
I have to agree with Sarah. I often want to see if a string doesn't
contain another string.
-Jerry Daniels
Tool makers for the 21st century
http://www.daniels-mara.com/products
On Dec 3, 2005, at 5:16 PM, Sarah Reichelt wrote:
Yes, I know the alternatives, it's just that as we were
Jerry Daniels wrote:
I have to agree with Sarah. I often want to see if a string doesn't
contain another string.
While there is a mysterious absence of does not contain to complimenty
contains, you can use is not in and is in for the same purposes.
Meanwhile, even English has its glaring
On Dec 4, 2005, at 12:55 PM, Jerry Daniels wrote:
I have to agree with Sarah. I often want to see if a string doesn't
contain another string.
where I always feel you should be able to use something like:
if myVar does not contain fred
This would mean adding does to the Transcript
Richard-
Sunday, December 4, 2005, 10:05:35 AM, you wrote:
Meanwhile, even English has its glaring absences, like having no
singular third-party gender-independent pronoun, leaving us to invent
works like s/he or awkwardly using the plural they instead.
it?
--
-Mark Wieder
[EMAIL
Charles-
Sunday, December 4, 2005, 10:37:41 AM, you wrote:
This discussion got me thinking about how Transcript does handle
is, and I realized they get away with what looks deceptively like
English-style ambiguity by sneakily including (and distinguishing
carefully!) is and is a and is in.
Thank you for pointing that out. I am totally in favor of it; if I
had any votes I would vote for it.
Charles
On Dec 4, 2005, at 1:58 PM, Mark Wieder wrote:
Charles-
Sunday, December 4, 2005, 10:37:41 AM, you wrote:
This discussion got me thinking about how Transcript does handle
is,
On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 17:50:53 -0800, Scott Rossi
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
but still, the point is that verbose syntax helps in my situation.
So I'll
continue to support its use.
Earlier, Scott had written
I don't know, Charles. Being a design-as-a-first-language,
One of the things I like about a web board interface is being able to
mark a thread ans as subcribed and then receiving email notices whenever
there is a post. Ideally though I would probably use a news reader such
as gravity and let it highlight topics I am participating in. To me the
There is nothing wrong with these topics that diverge from the focus of
the list. The problem is that since it is being delivers in the form of
a list its not as easy from people to ignore topics they are not
interested in.
Steve
Jim Ault wrote:
On 12/2/05 6:18 PM, Richard Gaskin [EMAIL
Saying if the visible of myObject is true, may sound a bit funny at first but
it is very English like. Putting the before visible turns an adjective into
a noun. Perfectly logical in a language that has no problems with the running
of the Kentucky Derby and a fine way to refer to a property.
Richard,
WOW. That's very nice. Is this link to the web interface listed on
the Rev site? I was unaware of it.
BTW, I emailed you about doing an article on Constellation. Maybe it
got misdirected or lost.
Best,
Jerry
http://www.daniels-mara.com/products/constellation.htm
Scripts and
Preston Shea [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Saying if the visible of myObject is true, may sound a bit
funny at first but it is very English like. Putting the before
visible turns an adjective into a noun. Perfectly logical in a
language that has no problems with the running of the Kentucky
Derby
Marty-
Friday, December 2, 2005, 9:46:20 PM, you wrote:
With regard to my previous post, students think that if they can say
hide field xxx
then they ought to be able to say
if field xxx is hidden ...
or
if field xxx is invisible ...
or
if field xxx is not visible...
but having
...and that, of course, is the problem with Transcript being
English-like... you tend to think that it *should* respond to
English commands. In English
hide field xxxand
if field xxx is hidden
The one that always irks me is contains and it's opposite.
if myVar contains fred
This is
Hi Sarah,
As all of you know that I'm not an English speaker, it's probably the
reason why
if not myVar contains fred
suits me ;-)
Le 3 déc. 05 à 23:49, Sarah Reichelt a écrit :
The one that always irks me is contains and it's opposite.
if myVar contains fred
This is simple and
You could use:
if fred is not in myVar then...
?
Sarah Reichelt wrote:
...and that, of course, is the problem with Transcript being
English-like... you tend to think that it *should* respond to
English commands. In English
hide field xxxand
if field xxx is hidden
The one that always
Yes, I know the alternatives, it's just that as we were discussing the
limitations of Transcript's Englishness, I thought I would mention one
place where it seems inconsistent.
Sarah
On 12/4/05, Chipp Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You could use:
if fred is not in myVar then...
?
Sarah
Dan
I dont think the issue is about IDEs that work better - sure there are and
sure none are as easy as rev.
The problems that i also see as retro are the pattern handling (mac
squared format
only vs any normal skin in win32 as widely used in the web interfaces),
menus not being
always so
On 12/1/05 9:47 PM, Bill Marriott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
3) Lack of integration with (or even much awareness about) the Web. It's
astonishing that altBrowser or a component like it is not integrated into
the platform. It's also really surprising that we don't have a more robust
way to get
I said nothing about the *content* of the mailing list, or the participants!
Obviously it's a great resource. This is the official mailing list -- you
can't go anywhere else for that -- and I simply think it's cumbersome. My
opinion is it should migrate toward a more attractive and accessible
On 02.12.2005, at 04:47, Bill Marriott wrote:
This list of course doesn't address all the reasons why I really
like Revolution and why I keep my license current. I do think that
in general it's better to have more users of a programming
language, otherwise it tends to die out like an
I think that over the last 12 years there has been a change
in people's perception of computers and what can be done by
them.
Certainly, in Bulgaria there is the perception that:
1. The ability to use Microsoft Word and connect to the
internet is all that anybody needs to know except for:
2.
On 02.12.2005, at 07:03, Thomas McGrath III wrote:
Kee,
This is true. But it might be an attractive add on just the same
for some people.
I personally don't like the UI in a can approach but I know others do.
That´s the point. Runrev imho should´nt have done Dreamcard. It
should have
Bill and All,
My idea about we would realy need to get the best enlacement Web 2.0
can provide us...
1.- i'm for my own very happy with the mailing lists ;
2.- i don't think that more features is always better (forum, wiki) ;
3.- i would be realy interested in beeing, in the same time, able
- I made my post completely oblivious that Kevin Miller had weighed
in, because I received the digest with his post *after* I made mine.
This is not real-time.
The way email works, I get many posts in different order than they
were sent. This does not happen with forums to the same degree but
Hi Bill,
On Dec 2, 2005, at 6:41 AM, Bill Marriott wrote:
I said nothing about the *content* of the mailing list, or the
participants!
For what it's worth, I, for one, didn't think you had.
Obviously it's a great resource. This is the official mailing
list -- you can't go anywhere else
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