WMV files on WIndows XP using Rev 2.8.1

2007-06-07 Thread Jim Sims
Can anyone here play WMV files on WIndows XP using Rev 2.8.1? I made sure the Load QuickTime on startUp box in preferences is not ticked. I then built my 'Splash screen' as I have done many times on 2.6.1 with success. [tested builds made on OS X and Windows XP with Rev 2.8.1] I then

Re: Curious QT playback problem

2007-06-07 Thread Scott Rossi
Recently, J. Landman Gay wrote: This has been working fine on both Mac and Windows machines for several hundred customers over the last 3 years until today, when one customer says there is a playback problem. She's running XP Pro on a fast machine with lots of RAM. When she chooses to play a

Re: Problem with Browser Sampler Stack in Rev/Mac 2.8.1

2007-06-07 Thread Tariel Gogoberidze
On Tue, 5 Jun 2007 11:11:25 -0700 (PDT) Jan Schenkel wrote: I just opened the Browser Sampler stack on my iMac/G5 OSX 10.4.9 - the button on the first screen worked fine - when I tried to open the PDF example, Rev crashed I reopened Revolution - skipped the button on the first card - the

Re: Problem with Browser Sampler Stack in Rev/Mac 2.8.1

2007-06-07 Thread Bob Warren
OK folks, here's the cure for the crash in the Browser Sampler.rev stack. It certainly cures it on my Mac Mini, and perhaps it will cure the fleeting problems that one or two of you have experienced. In stacks InetBrowser and FlashDemo, there is a card called browserTest. Go to the last line

Re: Curious QT playback problem

2007-06-07 Thread Dave Cragg
On 7 Jun 2007, at 03:59, J. Landman Gay wrote: the script gets the currentTime, checks every 250 milliseconds, and when the currentTime remains unchanged, assumes the playback is done. Then it moves on to the next file. From what you describe, it sounds like either the currentTime isn't

Re: Problem with Browser Sampler Stack in Rev/Mac 2.8.1

2007-06-07 Thread Bob Warren
Now I've got another little problem with the Browser Sampler.rev stack on my Mac Mini: If I make a standalone out of the stack above, NOTHING works, including simple navigation from one page to another! OK, it's 12 minutes past 5 in the morning, and I'm going to bed.. Bob

AW: Curious QT playback problem

2007-06-07 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
Perhaps, because it's a new and very fast machine, so that the check about the 250 msecs is done, before the mov is completely loaded? Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Dave Cragg Gesendet: Donnerstag, 7. Juni 2007 10:02 An:

Re: WMV files on WIndows XP using Rev 2.8.1

2007-06-07 Thread Ian Wood
On 7 Jun 2007, at 07:06, Jim Sims wrote: I made sure the Load QuickTime on startUp box in preferences is not ticked. You already reported this, didn't you? http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=3848 Ian ___ use-revolution mailing

Re: WMV files on WIndows XP using Rev 2.8.1

2007-06-07 Thread Jim Sims
On Jun 7, 2007, at 11:08 AM, Ian Wood wrote: On 7 Jun 2007, at 07:06, Jim Sims wrote: I made sure the Load QuickTime on startUp box in preferences is not ticked. You already reported this, didn't you? http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=3848 Ian Yes, however I had an

open source and the linux version

2007-06-07 Thread Peter Alcibiades
The reason for the economic power of the open source model is the possibility of derivative works. This is the underlying reason why, were one consulting to Rev, it would be one alternative one would advise exploring in depth. Not necessarily going down that route in the end. But certainly

Re: OT: Open Source (was Don't you just wish Rev would do this?)

2007-06-07 Thread Luis
Like I said, GPL is not the only choice. Cheers, Luis. On 7 Jun 2007, at 04:18, Chipp Walters wrote: On 6/6/07, Luis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It does not mean that whatever changes are made are forced upon you, as for that same reason, you can change it. GPL has given us Linux, Firefox,

Re: Open Source (was Don't you just wish Rev would do this?)

2007-06-07 Thread David Bovill
It puts the user directly in contact with the development process. In terms of open source software the user is (or has been) the developer - so you you get stability, quick bug fixes and security (if you are dealing with paranoid sys admins), or chaos, multiple forks and experiments (if you are

Re: strange (german) system date

2007-06-07 Thread Sarah Reichelt
I just discoverd strange things here on my PC: Rev 2.8.1, WIN XP Home SP2. In the msg: put the long date - Tuesday, June 5, 2007 which is correct. put the long system date - Mittwoch, 5. Juni 2007 which tells me it is wednesday (Mittwoch), NOT correct ? Any hints are very welcome. Thank

Re: XCode 2

2007-06-07 Thread Jan Schenkel
--- -= JB =- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I have some code written in C that was used in HyperCard and want to rewrite it for Revolution is the best program to use for the job Apple XCode 2. Where can I find the best examples of XCode 2 being used in Revolution. Are there versions of

Re: There's no place like Home

2007-06-07 Thread Sarah Reichelt
On 6/7/07, Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you had a Home stack in Rev like there was in HyperCard, what would you use it for? Keep in mind that Rev is a different beast than HC, so let your imagination run wild: What would you expect to see in a Rev Home stack? I use a couple of

Imagine a world in which HyperCard had been open sourced 20 years ago?

2007-06-07 Thread David Bovill
How would the world of software languages that we know of now be different? Perhaps: 1. Visual Basic would not have had the success that it did as companies re-hacked HyperTalk to fit their business needs 2. We'd have got colour and video and object orientation well ahead of the

Re: Open Source (was Don't you just wish Rev would do this?)

2007-06-07 Thread Luis
Oh no, we agree on something... Cheers, Luis. On 7 Jun 2007, at 04:25, Chipp Walters wrote: On 6/6/07, Samuel M. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problem I have with runrev is not open source per se but that with a paid model the incentive is for the developer to release feature updates

Re: OT: Open Source (was Don't you just wish Rev would do this?)

2007-06-07 Thread David Bovill
And if you are looking at restrictions on freedom - equally scary is future where hardware will not run software that is not copyright approved by a built in DRM chipp - pun intended :) Now if you were a company with a large library of software or digital content - that would be something worth

Re: strange (german) system date

2007-06-07 Thread Klaus Major
Hi Sarah, ... In the msg: put the long date - Tuesday, June 5, 2007 which is correct. put the long system date - Mittwoch, 5. Juni 2007 which tells me it is wednesday (Mittwoch), NOT correct ? Any hints are very welcome. Thank you very much Klaus. You're welcome :-) I have had a few

Convert from Absolute to Relative Paths

2007-06-07 Thread Dave
Hi, Does anyone know of some RunRev code that will take two absolute file paths and return the relative path? e.g. Frm PathA = /documents/Folder1/Folder2 PathB = /documents/Folder3/Folder4 Produce PathB, which in this case would be: ../../Folder1/Folder4 Thanks a lot All the Best Dave

Re: There's no place like Home

2007-06-07 Thread James Richards
You could do a lot worse than look at the HyperCard Home stack as a starting point for drawing in 'hobbyist' users (like me). If your Home Stack is simply a launcher perhaps you could package different kinds of Home stacks for different kinds of users - something along the lines of the HC

Re: XCode 2

2007-06-07 Thread -= JB =-
On Jun 7, 2007, at 3:33 AM, Jan Schenkel wrote: Hi John, You'll certainly be interested in the short series 'External Writing for the Uninitiated' by Mark Waddingham in the Revolution Newsletter: http://www.runrev.com/newsletter/november/issue13/newsletter5.php

Re: WMV files on WIndows XP using Rev 2.8.1

2007-06-07 Thread Ralf Bitter
On 7. Jun 2007, at 08:06, Jim Sims wrote: Can anyone here play WMV files on WIndows XP using Rev 2.8.1? Yes, as long as QuickTime is not installed. If it is installed one would have to set dontuseqt to true, but this leads to an error. I did tests with stacks in its most simple form and I

[OT] NeoOffice

2007-06-07 Thread Kay C Lan
On 6/6/07, Bob Warren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Kay, [Is that correct? You put your initials HTH at the end of your post.] Actually the HTH was meant to mean Hope That Helps. My signature block is automatically appended to my e-mails, but it's a gif file (in a successful attempt to stop

Re: open source and the linux version

2007-06-07 Thread Luis
That's the feeling I get when I see the age of some of the bugs... Cheers, Luis. On 7 Jun 2007, at 10:39, Peter Alcibiades wrote: Snipped. But at some point, some of us will also quietly open up a browser, drift over to Amazon, and order Hetland's wonderful book on Python. And while

Re: There's no place like Home

2007-06-07 Thread Eric Chatonet
Hi Richard and all, Le 7 juin 07 à 02:23, Richard Gaskin a écrit : If you had a Home stack in Rev like there was in HyperCard, what would you use it for? Keep in mind that Rev is a different beast than HC, so let your imagination run wild: What would you expect to see in a Rev Home

re: professor made software with runrev and sold for 2 million dollars

2007-06-07 Thread wayne durden
Hi folks, just came across an article here with a runrev connection: http://www.theunion.com/article/20070606/NEWS/106060142 Not a whole lot of detail, but this apparently relates to teachMac and teachIt being built with runrev. This may be old news to some, but I hadn't heard this before...

Re: professor made software with runrev and sold for 2 milliondollars

2007-06-07 Thread jbv
wayne, how come did you come across that paper ? Did you type Runtime revolution and $2 million in google ? just kidding... JB Hi folks, just came across an article here with a runrev connection: http://www.theunion.com/article/20070606/NEWS/106060142 Not a whole lot of detail, but this

Re: professor made software with runrev and sold for 2 milliondollars

2007-06-07 Thread wayne durden
Hi JB! I have a google news filter set up to flag hypercard references and this article mentioned it so it showed up in the results. The filters work great for things that aren't making a lot of headlines anymore because you aren't inundated with too much stuff, but it catches lots of

Re: There's no place like Home

2007-06-07 Thread Shari
The first thing I do upon launching Rev/MC is click the Tool btn on the Home stack to open the Tools menu, then close the Home stack. One thing I would not want is more front and back scripts added. I recently spent many hours trying to find out why my own frontscript mouseup handler wasn't

Re: There's no place like Home

2007-06-07 Thread Richard Gaskin
Eric Chatonet wrote: It could display different things according to a kind of user level from a simple stack launcher to a lib and plugin manager, environment info and much more. The stacks launcher would includes presentation stacks, videos and templates for beginners as well as more

Legacy stack woes II

2007-06-07 Thread Rob Cozens
Hi All, New issue: Standalone settings for Legacy stacks are stored in separate Config stacks, while those settings are internal in the current stack format. If one is distributing a stack to be used by developers to build standalones (eg: SDB_Server, SDB_Utilities): * If saved in legacy

Re: Convert from Absolute to Relative Paths

2007-06-07 Thread David Bovill
function file_GetRelativePath someFileOrFolder, baseFolder, @commonPath put the itemdelimiter into originalDelim set the itemdelimiter to / put empty into commonPath put someFileOrFolder into relativePath put 0 into itemNum repeat with itemNum = 1 to the number of items of

[OT] REAL World 2007 keynote transcript

2007-06-07 Thread Todd Higgins
I did not attend the conference, but my friend did and brought back this transcript: http://truetech.org/pages/RW07Keynote.php Some interesting information can be gleaned from the transcript. It looks like RealBasic is claiming to have ~170 K users (Mac, Windows, Linux combined) and

RE: There's no place like Home

2007-06-07 Thread Lynn Fredricks
There are a lot of people here who cut their teeth on HC. It would be facinating to see everyone's favorite design for a modern home stack. Anyone up for a design contest? Over the weekend I found a Mac SE/30 peaking sadly out of the back of a closet. It was an interesting experience firing it up

Re: There's no place like Home

2007-06-07 Thread Eric Chatonet
Hi Richard, I think that a kind of brainstorming from different users and programmers (all have not the same needs) could be interesting to list features that would be nice to have according to three levels: 1. Beginners 2. Hobbyists 3. Pros * * Actually, pros don't need a home stack or

Re: Convert from Absolute to Relative Paths

2007-06-07 Thread Jim Ault
Quick programming note: put the itemdelimiter into originalDelim ... set the itemdelimiter to originalDelim is not necessary the way you have structured your function. Rev will consider the itemDelimiter at the start of each handler to be the default itemDelimiter, which is usually a

RE: [OT] REAL World 2007 keynote transcript

2007-06-07 Thread Lynn Fredricks
I did not attend the conference, but my friend did and brought back this transcript: http://truetech.org/pages/RW07Keynote.php Some interesting information can be gleaned from the transcript. It looks like RealBasic is claiming to have ~170 K users (Mac, Windows, Linux combined)

Re: There's no place like Home

2007-06-07 Thread Richard Gaskin
Eric Chatonet wrote: I think that a kind of brainstorming from different users and programmers (all have not the same needs) could be interesting to list features that would be nice to have according to three levels: 1. Beginners 2. Hobbyists 3. Pros * * Actually, pros don't need a home

Re: There's no place like Home

2007-06-07 Thread Richard Gaskin
Shari wrote: The first thing I do upon launching Rev/MC is click the Tool btn on the Home stack to open the Tools menu, then close the Home stack. Me too. One more reason to have any Home stack operate like RevOnline, with an option to let the user determine if it opens on launch or not.

Re: Convert from Absolute to Relative Paths

2007-06-07 Thread Jim Ault
I look at this task differently and offer it as an example to study to see various ways Rev let's you accomplish the same thing. David's solution will make more sense to some and be easier to program, so they should follow that direction. My approach is to use the Rev chunk expressions to get to

Re: Legacy stack woes II

2007-06-07 Thread Richard Gaskin
Rob Cozens wrote: Standalone settings for Legacy stacks are stored in separate Config stacks, while those settings are internal in the current stack format. If one is distributing a stack to be used by developers to build standalones (eg: SDB_Server, SDB_Utilities): * If saved in legacy

Re: Imagine a world in which HyperCard had been open sourced 20 years ago?

2007-06-07 Thread simplsol
Perhaps: 1. HyperTalk is never converted from an interpreted language to a compiled one - no one wants to commit the resources 2. Five different developers rewrite the HC engine to support five different ways of adding color 3. Businesses refuse to touch HC because there are 20 different

Re: Center text within a field?

2007-06-07 Thread Trevor DeVore
On Jun 6, 2007, at 5:09 PM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: I realize it would take a lot of initial work, but you guys seem up for it: why not just use a lookup table with the exact values you need for each font condition listed? Hi Joe, I think the time to research all of the possible

Re: Center text within a field?

2007-06-07 Thread Trevor DeVore
On Jun 6, 2007, at 4:47 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: So it's font dependent and we're back where we started. :( You may be stuck with your images after all, since there is no good way to read the actual positioning of the glyph inside its text box. I think I will post a feature request for

Re: Center text within a field?

2007-06-07 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins
Congrats, Trevor. If you've come up with an acceptable handler that performs well, then my suggestion is entirely moot at this time. I'm surprised that you were able to come up with a good solution in the time frame you mention. Great! Joe Wilkins On Jun 7, 2007, at 9:24 AM, Trevor DeVore

Toolbar Question

2007-06-07 Thread LunchnMeets
Hi Everyone, Is there a way to hide or relocate the toolbar in the IDE? Since I never leave the IDE the toolbar sometimes gets in the way. Joe ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ___ use-revolution mailing

Using the Gnome Theme in Revolution 2.6.1

2007-06-07 Thread Derek Bump
I know there was some discussion regarding how to get Revolution 2.6.1 to adopt the current theme in Linux, and I did some research and I just couldn't seem to understand what I needed to do to make my program use the current theme of Gnome. I tried creating environmental variables to the path of

Re: Imagine a world in which HyperCard had been open sourced 20 years ago?

2007-06-07 Thread Richard Gaskin
As a team member of one of the longest-running Rev-based open source projects, the MC IDE, I share much of the enthusiasm for the benefits of the process and, with more than a dozen others, have translated that enthusiasm into action. But on balance, I believe a lot of that success is due to

Re: Using the Gnome Theme in Revolution 2.6.1

2007-06-07 Thread chris bohnert
Derek, Ken did a great job summarizing this issue at: http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/revolution/tips/lin002.htm try this out and let us know if you have any problems. -- cb ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please

RE: There's no place like Home

2007-06-07 Thread Stephen Barncard
What's impressive is that it did it with very little ram and drive space. Tight code, little bloat. It had to be. I still cringe at the size of my 25mb application. But I NEED all that stuff in there Over the weekend I found a Mac SE/30 peaking sadly out of the back of a closet. It was

Re: Center text within a field?

2007-06-07 Thread Trevor DeVore
On Jun 7, 2007, at 9:34 AM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: Congrats, Trevor. If you've come up with an acceptable handler that performs well, then my suggestion is entirely moot at this time. I'm surprised that you were able to come up with a good solution in the time frame you mention. Great!

Re: Open Source (was Don't you just wish Rev would do this?)

2007-06-07 Thread Richard Gaskin
David, I think you may have answered the How do we pay the piper? question here: I'd beg to differ with Lynn that this stuff is only for the big boys - like Adobe, IBM, Google or Yahoo. The developers of Base Camp have a good business, they build upon the developer community they created with

Re: Using the Gnome Theme in Revolution 2.6.1

2007-06-07 Thread Derek Bump
Chris, Thank you for letting me know about that article. Sometimes I completely forget about the excellent collection of tips and tricks that Ken Ray has compiled. And I have to agree with Ken, it would be so much better when the next linux version comes out and there is no need for the

Imagine a world in which HyperCard had been open sourced 20 years ago?

2007-06-07 Thread Peter Alcibiades
Look, I don't want to get us off into off-topic flame wars, and I don't think necessarily that going Open Source is the answer for Rev, or that it would have been for HC. Its worth serious consideration is all I would argue. But you have to say that these remarks really misrepresent the Open

Re: Curious QT playback problem

2007-06-07 Thread J. Landman Gay
Scott Rossi wrote: Recently, J. Landman Gay wrote: This has been working fine on both Mac and Windows machines for several hundred customers over the last 3 years until today, when one customer says there is a playback problem. She's running XP Pro on a fast machine with lots of RAM. When she

Re: There's no place like Home

2007-06-07 Thread Scott Kane
From: Lynn Fredricks [EMAIL PROTECTED] There are a lot of people here who cut their teeth on HC. It would be facinating to see everyone's favorite design for a modern home stack. Anyone up for a design contest? This facinates me as it appeals to the marketer in me. g I'd love for their to

Re: Curious QT playback problem

2007-06-07 Thread J. Landman Gay
Dave Cragg wrote: On 7 Jun 2007, at 03:59, J. Landman Gay wrote: the script gets the currentTime, checks every 250 milliseconds, and when the currentTime remains unchanged, assumes the playback is done. Then it moves on to the next file. From what you describe, it sounds like either the

Re: AW: Curious QT playback problem

2007-06-07 Thread J. Landman Gay
Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote: Perhaps, because it's a new and very fast machine, so that the check about the 250 msecs is done, before the mov is completely loaded? Maybe, it's possible. But I thought the handler paused until the file was loaded, or the loading failed. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay

Re: professor made software with runrev and sold for 2 million dollars

2007-06-07 Thread J. Landman Gay
wayne durden wrote: Hi folks, just came across an article here with a runrev connection: http://www.theunion.com/article/20070606/NEWS/106060142 Not a whole lot of detail, but this apparently relates to teachMac and teachIt being built with runrev. This may be old news to some, but I hadn't

Re: Problem with Browser Sampler Stack in Rev/Mac 2.8.1

2007-06-07 Thread Bob Warren
OK, so I found a cure for the functioning of Rev's Browser Sampler Stack in Rev/Mac 2.8.1 using my Mac Mini. When I make a standalone, nothing works - even when trying to navigate from one page to another. But in relation to this, I am prepared to believe provisionally that this stack is too

Re: professor made software with runrev and sold for 2 million dollars

2007-06-07 Thread wayne durden
Hi Jacque! You mean the article text or the underlying teachMac technology? I assume the latter...but not quite sure? Wayne On 6/7/07, J. Landman Gay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: wayne durden wrote: Hi folks, just came across an article here with a runrev connection:

Re: Legacy stack woes II

2007-06-07 Thread Rob Cozens
Hi Richard, AFAIK the standalone settings are stored in custom properties, and do not rely on anything specific to the new format for storage. First, let's make sure we're talking apples apples: by standalone settings, I am referring to the standalone build settings: platform(s) to build

Re: Open Source (was Don't you just wish Rev would do this?)

2007-06-07 Thread David Bovill
On 07/06/07, Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David, I think you may have answered the How do we pay the piper? question here: I think it's along the right lines - I think there are opportunities regarding the Linux version etc. The folks at Base Camp have visibility, but do revenues

Re: There's no place like Home

2007-06-07 Thread J. Landman Gay
Richard Gaskin wrote: While the Home stack is in the message path in both HyperCard and Rev, it isn't among the backScripts. BackScripts were introduced in SuperCard and later added to MetaCard/Revolution, but that specific mechanism was never supported in HyperCard. HyperCard did support

RE: Open Source (was Don't you just wish Rev would do this?)

2007-06-07 Thread Lynn Fredricks
I'd beg to differ with Lynn that this stuff is only for the big boys - like Adobe, IBM, Google or Yahoo. The developers of Base Camp have a good business, they build upon the developer community they created with Ruby on Rails. They get a lot of work. Nor did they need to raise heaps of

Re: professor made software with runrev and sold for 2 million dollars

2007-06-07 Thread J. Landman Gay
wayne durden wrote: Hi Jacque! You mean the article text or the underlying teachMac technology? I assume the latter...but not quite sure? Byron Turner is one of my clients and I wrote TeachMac/TeachIT for him. We will start the next version modifications soon. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay

Re: Problem with Browser Sampler Stack in Rev/Mac 2.8.1

2007-06-07 Thread chris bohnert
What's browserEnsure..I don't see that in the documenation anywhere and I don't see it defined in the code you've shown. -- cb On 6/7/07, Bob Warren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, so I found a cure for the functioning of Rev's Browser Sampler Stack in Rev/Mac 2.8.1 using my Mac Mini. When I

Re: Legacy stack woes II

2007-06-07 Thread J. Landman Gay
Rob Cozens wrote: In Legacy format versions of RunRev, Build Distribution saves the settings in [stack name] Config.rev, NOT in the source stack itself. So Build Distribution in Legacy format versions expects to find the distribution settings in a separate Config stack and the post-Legacy

Re: Using the Gnome Theme in Revolution 2.6.1

2007-06-07 Thread Ken Ray
On Thu, 07 Jun 2007 12:13:35 -0500, Derek Bump wrote: Chris, Thank you for letting me know about that article. Sometimes I completely forget about the excellent collection of tips and tricks that Ken Ray has compiled. Thanks, Derek! And I have to agree with Ken, it would be so much

Re: Problem with Browser Sampler Stack in Rev/Mac 2.8.1

2007-06-07 Thread J. Landman Gay
Bob Warren wrote: So I decide to make a simple stack to test the revBrowser. From RR Newletter Issue 26, I construct the following stack: --THIS IS IN THE CARD SCRIPT: snip --THIS IS THE ERROR MESSAGE I GET: Type Handler: can't find handler Object card id 1002 Line browserEnsure

Re: Problem with Browser Sampler Stack in Rev/Mac 2.8.1

2007-06-07 Thread J. Landman Gay
Bob Warren wrote: As a matter of fact, I wasn't aware of the fact that there is such a thing as a demo version. I thought that it was all the same piece of software that could be activated either by a demo unlocking code or a licensed unlocking code.** If that is simply another way of viewing

Re: Launching Visual C++ 2005 Applications

2007-06-07 Thread Ken Ray
On Wed, 6 Jun 2007 20:48:35 -0800, Doug Heywood wrote: The only thing I wonder about would be some mysterious parameter I could include in my open process statement which would actually stimulate the program to run, but I obviously don't know. Doug, are you using open process app or open

wait for a process in OS X

2007-06-07 Thread Chris Sheffield
This is probably a stupid question. And I swear I've done this in the past, but I can't for the life of me remember how I did it. I need to launch an application from within a script, but I need my script to wait for the application to close before continuing. I've tried launch, open

Re: Open Source (was Don't you just wish Rev would do this?)

2007-06-07 Thread Bob Warren
Richard Gaskin wrote: A lot of folks here used to cry out for free bug-fix upgrades, but last time Rev delivered one they complained it didn't address all of them and left out too many feature requests. ;) - The other day, I put forward a

Re: Open Source (was Don't you just wish Rev would do this?)

2007-06-07 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins
First of all, Bob, We appreciate your efforts, but what you suggest just won't ever happen. Even if we expand the word single to be several hundred, the number of builds necessitated by that approach would be enormous, and we'd all be driven absolutely out of our minds. Right now, it's

Re: Open Source (was Don't you just wish Rev would do this?)

2007-06-07 Thread David Bovill
On 07/06/07, Lynn Fredricks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can see between 37 Signals and Runtime, but a whole lot of differences too. That doesn't mean those moves are going to be equally successful for any other company. Agreed - it doesn't. The devil is in the detail. In an email I can only

Re: Open Source (was Don't you just wish Rev would do this?)

2007-06-07 Thread David Bovill
A little hard Joe? On 07/06/07, Joe Lewis Wilkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First of all, Bob, We appreciate your efforts, but what you suggest just won't ever happen But it is just more convenient for all of us to get a single new package, rather than a number of different ones of

Fixed stack IDs?

2007-06-07 Thread David Bovill
Do I remember reading that there is a recent feature / supported / unsupported for permanent stack ids (I know that the ids change as objects are added)? Can't find it anywhere - I'm looking to use a permanent id that will survive stack modifications and (file) name changes.

Re: wait for a process in OS X

2007-06-07 Thread Ken Ray
On Thu, 7 Jun 2007 13:11:10 -0600, Chris Sheffield wrote: This is probably a stupid question. And I swear I've done this in the past, but I can't for the life of me remember how I did it. I need to launch an application from within a script, but I need my script to wait for the

Re: Fixed stack IDs?

2007-06-07 Thread Ken Ray
On Thu, 7 Jun 2007 21:06:44 +0100, David Bovill wrote: Do I remember reading that there is a recent feature / supported / unsupported for permanent stack ids (I know that the ids change as objects are added)? Can't find it anywhere - I'm looking to use a permanent id that will survive

Re: Problem with Browser Sampler Stack in Rev/Mac 2.8.1

2007-06-07 Thread Bob Warren
Huh! I'm not just getting old, I'm getting blind with it! Would somebody like to teach me how to read? :-[ I'll put the browserEnsure handler in and let you know how it runs. Thanks Jacque and Chris. Bob ___ use-revolution mailing list

Re: Open Source (was Don't you just wish Rev would do this?)

2007-06-07 Thread Bob Warren
In my limited industrial experience, it is far better to fall short of an ideal future model that you slowly edging towards than it is to work in a mess. Bob ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to

Re: Convert from Absolute to Relative Paths

2007-06-07 Thread David Bovill
Being redundantly lazy - I often copy scripts around - resetting the itemdelim ensures it woks when pasted into another handler. On 07/06/07, Jim Ault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quick programming note: put the itemdelimiter into originalDelim ... set the itemdelimiter to originalDelim

Re: Fixed stack IDs?

2007-06-07 Thread Richard Gaskin
Ken Ray wrote: On Thu, 7 Jun 2007 21:06:44 +0100, David Bovill wrote: Do I remember reading that there is a recent feature / supported / unsupported for permanent stack ids (I know that the ids change as objects are added)? Can't find it anywhere - I'm looking to use a permanent id that will

Re: professor made software with runrev and sold for 2 million dollars

2007-06-07 Thread Andre Garzia
Jacque, you know that you're an inspiration for us all :-D Congratulations on that software! :-D Cheers andre On 6/7/07, J. Landman Gay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: wayne durden wrote: Hi Jacque! You mean the article text or the underlying teachMac technology? I assume the latter...but

Re: Toolbar Question

2007-06-07 Thread Sarah Reichelt
Is there a way to hide or relocate the toolbar in the IDE? Since I never leave the IDE the toolbar sometimes gets in the way. Check out the View menu. Toolbar Text Toolbar Icons are both checked by default. Unchecking both hides the Toolbar completely. Unchecking either one makes it smaller.

Re: OT: Open Source (was Don't you just wish Rev would do this?)

2007-06-07 Thread Mark Wieder
Chipp- OOPS, not so fast...have you seen the stir GPL 3 is causing? Luckily, GPL3 is still just a draft at this point. There's hope that the FSF folks will still come to their senses, or that folks will just avoid GPL3 and go with Creative Commons licensing instead.

Re: Open Source (was Don't you just wish Rev would do this?)

2007-06-07 Thread Trevor DeVore
On Jun 7, 2007, at 12:49 PM, David Bovill wrote: Its easy to say that RunRev is not Adobe, but I would be interested in your thinking as to why RunRev could not make as good a business out of open sourcing core parts of the C++ engine in a similar way to 37Signals or MySQL in its early days.

Re: Convert from Absolute to Relative Paths

2007-06-07 Thread Jim Ault
Think of them as handler locals that one, are defined as the default at the start of the handler two, can be set/reset affecting only the current handler three, expire when the handler does. This makes calling a series of functions easier, such as set the itemDel to tab --does not matter outside

Re: Toolbar Question

2007-06-07 Thread Jim Ault
On 6/7/07 2:48 PM, Sarah Reichelt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a way to hide or relocate the toolbar in the IDE? Since I never leave the IDE the toolbar sometimes gets in the way. Check out the View menu. Toolbar Text Toolbar Icons are both checked by default. Unchecking both hides

Re: OT: Open Source (was Don't you just wish Rev would do this?)

2007-06-07 Thread David Bovill
On 07/06/07, Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ttp://www.linspire.com/linspire_letter.php http://creativecommons.org/ I thought of using Creative Commons licenses for software a while back - some people do. But it is not recommended by the lawyers :)

Re: Open Source (was Don't you just wish Rev would do this?)

2007-06-07 Thread David Bovill
On 07/06/07, Trevor DeVore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Adobe did not open source Flex Builder, Flex Data Services or Flash itself - just the Flex framework. At least that is what I've read in articles discussing the topic. Not sure - but whats missing from this: Adobe plans to release all of

Re: Open Source (was Don't you just wish Rev would do this?)

2007-06-07 Thread Richard Gaskin
Trevor DeVore wrote: On Jun 7, 2007, at 12:49 PM, David Bovill wrote: Its easy to say that RunRev is not Adobe, but I would be interested in your thinking as to why RunRev could not make as good a business out of open sourcing core parts of the C++ engine in a similar way to 37Signals or

Re: Open Source (was Don't you just wish Rev would do this?)

2007-06-07 Thread Trevor DeVore
On Jun 7, 2007, at 3:34 PM, David Bovill wrote: Not sure - but whats missing from this: Adobe plans to release all of the components of the Flex SDK needed to create Flex applications, including the Java source code for the ActionScript and MXML compilers, the ActionScript debugger, and the

Re: Open Source (was Don't you just wish Rev would do this?)

2007-06-07 Thread David Bovill
On 08/06/07, Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And since the engine remains free for CGI use, the differences for most folks are pretty minor. Beg to differ :) If the cgi engine had been open - several years back I would have a crack at creating an Apache module. I had quite some

Re: Open Source (was Don't you just wish Rev would do this?)

2007-06-07 Thread Trevor DeVore
On Jun 7, 2007, at 4:19 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Just to clarify, Ruby on Rails (I assume that is what you are referring to when you mention 37Signals) is a framework built for an already existing development language. I believe Ruby itself is also open source, governed by the LGPL.

Re: Open Source (was Don't you just wish Rev would do this?)

2007-06-07 Thread David Bovill
On 08/06/07, Trevor DeVore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 7, 2007, at 3:34 PM, David Bovill wrote: Not sure - but whats missing from this: Adobe plans to release all of the components of the Flex SDK needed to create Flex applications, including the Java source code for the ActionScript

Re: Problem with Browser Sampler Stack in Rev/Mac 2.8.1

2007-06-07 Thread Bob Warren
Just for the record, this displays beeootifully on my Mac Mini. The standalone works fine (not too heavy). Add a button and an image called Browser Rect ** to your stack first: -- CARD SCRIPT: local sBrowserId = # Opens the

Re: WAR ON BUGS [WAS Open Source (was Don't you just wish Rev would do this?)]

2007-06-07 Thread Stephen Barncard
At 4:12 PM -0300 6/7/07, Bob Warren wrote: 1. RR should provide feature releases on a regular basis. We pay for them. And we'll be getting them. It's in the roadmap, and Kevin is sticking to it. 2. We do not pay for bugfixes. The manufacturer is just putting right what he has done wrong.

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