I've done a few little splash screen apps with very limited deployment (eg 1-3
users); and some completely self-contained apps with wider deployment.
Now I'd like to make one of my more widely deployed apps into a splash-screen
based app, so that it can update itself over the net.
Where I've
Has anyone written a Jabber client, server, bot, or library in Transcript?
(Failing that, any other IM protocol?)
Any experience to share, tips, gotchas?
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like this on Windows?
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problems; or conversely, attempted similar tasks without encountering
such problems?
This is all in Rev 2.6.1, btw, with libURL 1.1.4.
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, is there
an equivalent on Windows?
b) does Windows Media Player need to be installed in a particular location for
Rev to be able to use it?
c) are there any other tips, known gotchas, etc?
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My gut is telling me that it three things:
1. could be a filepath issue.
2. Is the file extention ok?
3. I'm hungry.
Hi Thomas,
Thanks for your response, but I don't think any of these three things
are it.
I'm using a stack with a button to set the
looking.
Any suggestions, pointers, tools, warnings, etc gratefully received.
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But... have you tried using Chipp Walters' altCleanStack first? I
usually end up getting rid of 50% or so of stuff I don't need.
That sounds like a great first step (although I suspect there's much of my fat
there, as well as Rev's) - I'm off to download
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Then again, if we could put objects into variables (I'd love that for
implementing Undo) we could get the length of the variable to determine
the number of bytes the object requires. Then you'd have your
reporting, and Jan and I would have a handy
I'm trying to get Rev to play MP3 files on Windows XP Embedded.
I'm carrying the stack, the MP3 file, and StackRunner around on a USB drive,
so the problem isn't there. I can plug the USB drive into any of several
Windows XP machines, launch StackRunner, press the button, hear the sound. On
A very late contribution to this thread.
Way back in 2005-07-04 kee nethery [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If you are running Hypercard on the startup volume, it runs fine
until you try to edit a script. That does not work.
If you are running externals in Hypercard, no clue whether they still
(and then have them read by Media again)? (Albeit obviously in Enterprise the
templates wouldn't be available, I imagine.)
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in effect pass a
password to shell in this situation, or in any other way get round this problem?
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On 26/6/06 10:57, Sarah Reichelt wrote:
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The 'shell' command is a very useful extension to Rev's native powers.
However, there are some things, at least on OS X, which I want to do that
require the shell command to be issued in super-user mode
, more time than that has
actually elapsed before it does - does the idleRate effect this? Failing
that, can you run your own tight loop, polling the milliseconds until it
changes? (I'm guessing you don't really need to scroll at faster than 1000
pixels/second.)
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string.
HTH,
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20 years we've had this darn company name, and still the jokes - but not much
longer. In a couple of months we're changing it. You won't have our (old)
stupid company name to kick around much longer. Nosirree.
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, and it never got bugzilla'd it... but
perhaps I'll dig out the details and have another go.
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On 27/6/06 16:27, J. Landman Gay wrote:
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I don't think there's any problem with cmd-period in OS-X; but there
is, and always has been, a problem that cmd-period doesn't work if
you've got a modal dialog in the way.
Very true, but I think there's a problem with Command
On 27/6/06 16:39, Ben Rubinstein wrote:
So this is a bug introduced in some version of 2.7 - does this represent
a touching confidence by RunRev that their user-programmers are now so
sophisticated that they'll never make mistakes anymore, sort of like
Steve Jobs removing the reset switch
in between them.
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J. Landman Gay wrote:
Ben Rubinstein wrote:
Minor update: this bug is still present in 2.7.2; it applies even after
'suspend development environment'; but it doesn't apply to
standalones built
with 2.7.2, ie cmd-period interrupts fine. So it's
, the pasteKey message isn't sent.
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to false
in the current version.
Excellent catch, Peter - thank you. I had checked for the cantAbort of the
stack, but not the global allowInterrupts.
I've added this info to BZ.
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On 27/6/06 23:37, kee nethery wrote:
On Jun 27, 2006, at 12:27 PM, Ben Rubinstein wrote:
You may well be on top of this, but just in case: note that 'pasteKey'
literally only catches using the keyboard shortcut to paste; if the
user uses paste from the standard edit menu, the pasteKey message
added the other - but it's been that way for about four years now...
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of menus, ie including the
Edit menu), you also need to trap the menuPick message:
on menuPick tWhat
if paste is not in tWhat then pass menuPick
end menuPick
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time to finish, AFAIK there is no way to do
this from 'outside' the handler - ie as Jim hints, you'd need to build this
into your handler in some way.
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? If the latter, please add a note to the above
bug report to confirm that this error occurs on Windows also.
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those three are probably the most
useful, with debugging marginally out in front.
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be trivial* to
implement it directly in the engine, and that would be very much faster than
the transcript version.
There's a proposal in bugzilla for this:
http://support.runrev.com/bugdatabase/show_bug.cgi?id=584
Please consider tossing it some votes...
*trivial: usual caveats apply
Ben
a preference which reverses this: it makes the PI use the actual
property name for each checkbox (etc), and puts the more verbose label into
the tool-tip.
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it changes the port. That works fine, I would expect this would work in
your case too.
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/bugdatabase/show_bug.cgi?id=594
which was fixed a couple of years ago (all hail Bugzilla).
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back to Rev also.
If the machine doesn't do sound, you'll get an error when you set the filename
of the player. If you didn't get an error at that stage, I think you can be
confident that start player will work.
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for this request if you think it would be helpful.
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a convention) will eventually
pop-up a contextual menu.
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it with invariant order in the past.
If in fact the order is platform-dependant in 2.7that's contrary to the docs,
and a bug.
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spotted and fixed
(I can't see anything about in Bugzilla) - but without addressing this problem.
There. Full disclosure!
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that a field's data is stored
in, as long as we can get at it by properties.
For the record, I'm pretty certain that isn't Utah RLE, but a very very very
much simpler format. Take a look at it and see. But I still wish someone
would explain to me why so many people seem to care?
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operates in a way based on the screen depth).
Either way, when you ask for the imageData, you're getting a 5-bits per
channel pixmap expanded to 8-bits per channel - hence the slight differences.
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, force it to be RLE (set the global
paintCompression to rle, set the imagedata of the image to itself, change
card) then try
put dumpHex(the imageData of image 1, 64)
and
put dumpHex(the text of image 1, 5)
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like this.
)
Tragically - I word I use in purely ironic mood, given the shape of the world
- this exchange came just one month before Bugzilla opened for business, so
naturally I never entered the suggestion. But if I was on a decent internet
connection at the moment, I'd do it now.
Ben
this question and several others!)
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I think you need to think 'misc' 'dosc' with your own data structure and
content.
Google the following dosc misc revolution and look at a couple of the
archive posts on our list.
on appleEvent theClass,theID
if theClass is misc and theID is dosc
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But keep in mind that you cannot do this with Revolution 2.7.3 because of a
bug that scrambles the apple events. If you use Revolution 2.7.2, you can
use apple events, but they come in backwards on Universal Binary builds
(i.e. The class is csim and theID is
between Rev and
Phidgets!
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generic I/O of SERVICE USB).
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, who is facing an immovable deadline of their own, and at the last
minute this issue has come up. It's arguably both use and improve, since
there's clearly a bug, but there may be a workaround!]
I am in pain. Any help, or suggestions, gratefully received.
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folder as the app? Can this
be configured in any way?
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(and possibly Excel) could you bypass CSV and use ODBC to
retrieve the data more directly? This might be more certain, and more
convenient for your users.
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of a biter bit situation, since there are a number of bugs in my products
that I tell my users I can't do anything about it until my development
environment [rev] is fixed. Now I know how they feel!
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Sadly this didn't work!
Any help, tips, pointers to documentation, or answers to the specific
questions above would be very gratefully received.
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! - inability
to use file extensions in OS X, the consequences of which have been noted
and complained of by my users; to who I've given exactly the response that
Tuviah has had to for #2212.
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quote pPDFpath quote \
to quote PDF quote cr after tScript
HTH,
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for you. Possibly all of the above!
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a lazy way of commenting out a handler (a way which is
already no longer safe, as has been observed).
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be really useful. It's something that
in the past I've shied away from suggesting, for fear that I'd find myself
committed to an unfunded research project to make it work! So I'd be very
interested in this.
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a file which Stuffit
Expander on Windows decompressed happily; but Stuffit Deluxe 8.0.2 on MacOS
X claimed was corrupt.
So - could this be related to the problem you're having? (If not: do you
support the comment field? Because one day I'd like to actually fix this!)
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non-breaking space.
I really don't know what purpose that serves!
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://www.embedded.com/showArticle.jhtml;jsessionid=UIAIHHO3P0PECQSNDBCSKH0CJ
UMEKJVN?articleID=53700319
Good article. I recognised many of the crimes (including some I've
committed...). Also makes me salute Jeanne again!
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to be substituted for
the placeholder is passed, rather than the value - unusual in Transcript,
and slightly confusing.)
Hope this helps,
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.) Depending on your setup, this
could be a stack loaded each time off a file server; a stack loaded each
time from a web server; or a stack loaded from a local copy, with some
provision to check for updates, and download and replace the local copy.
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, save before you test XCMDs, you might crash; secondly, test
them hard!
Good luck, have fun.
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the horses (and
app developers who might have counted on the previous behaviour). Thanks for
clearing that up, Frank.
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a placeholder, and replacing the placeholder directly with
literals. But obviously that only works for short values that don't have
any inconvenient characters such as returns or quotes.
I hope someone can up with a good answer to this.
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the same
value. (CRLF, on the other hand, has the value '\n\r'). There is no
constant that has the value '\r'. You'll need to do something like replace
return with numtochar(13) in x' on the way into AppleScript, and replace
numtochar(13) with return in x on the way out.)
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if no additional conveniences are
provided in the script editor, is find the bottom of their handler to add
the close comment there.
How about we just request a simpler Script Editor enhancement - jump to end
of current handler?
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such a thing as the active app, only the frontmost
window - but I think the same principle applies, it just might be harder to
establish which windows belong to your target app.
My 0.02,
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can in any
case count from the end of a range using negative numbers, hence
put char -4 to -1 of line 1 of field result
would also get you what you want, with no need to first ask the length.
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\shell\open\command\,
format(\C:\Ba\Ba.exe\ \-E\ \%1\)
Even more convenient if you find yourself also making up strings including
returns (but remember a Transcript return is \n, not \r).
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immediately know what it means, then q is
good too. Lots of quotes and returns, no backslashes? Format might look
attractive. Horses for courses - Transcript gives us lots of choices.
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, the backtick with quote, and the paragraph
mark with return.
In Rev, I don't bother so much - I either assemble, or I use format.
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double-clicked a file, it would load the IDE unless you held down the
command key during startup.
I thought this change was made in Rev 2 - but maybe it was in 2.5.
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link with a 'target' attribute) can change the
src of the iframe to the results of a call to Revolution. Either you could
just use this to display the result to the user, or javascript could read
back the text from the iframe in order to further process it.
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like to know whether other people think it makes sense, and how it
could be improved.
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to confirm or deny whether
or not you can expect Rev to match the likes, and to what extent it can
improve on the discontents.
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thing I'm aware of (but it's not really my world, others may know
more) is a product called WinBatch. It worked perfectly on the one project
I needed it.
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that
works/doesn't work, etc.
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Has anyone used Rev (used IDE, or deployed standalones) on Windows XP
Embedded? Does it work? Are there any gotchas, tips or other things I
should be aware of?
TIA,
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Thanks both Millers! Now just have to see if we get the job...
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? Or in
fact any external audio file? (Is there another way to play external audio
files without using a player object?)
Any enlightenment gratefully received,
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be an advantage.
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component; is there some equivalent on Windows (XPe) that I can use
to figure out what the problem is here?
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splendidly well. If
we make it out of prototype and into deployment, I look forward to giving
Rod a case study.)
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On Wed Feb 9 15:21:29 Thomas McGrath III wrote:
It is relevant
On Feb 9, 2005, at 2:05 PM, Ben Rubinstein wrote:
I haven't; but I don't think it's relevant,
Thomas,
Thanks for taking the time to respond to my query. Could you shed some more
light, however? What I wrote was:
I haven't
Player 9 is installed on that machine, and working
fine). I'm trying to track down the critical difference.
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With Kevin and Heather's approval, I've gone ahead and done this. So this list
can be viewed, and searched (archives back to November 2001) at:
http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.ide.revolution.user
I hope others find this useful too.
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Excellent review of Web Photos Pro in the latest issue of MacUser UK. Good
work!
Ben Rubinstein | Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cognitive Applications Ltd | Phone: +44 (0)1273-821600
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platforms
using Transcript (AFAICT - I'd welcome suggestions on other ways to attack
this) I've added an enhancement request to bugzilla to support this mode on
other platforms:
http://support.runrev.com/bugdatabase/show_bug.cgi?id=2797
If you would find this useful, please vote for it.
Ben
in a similar way.)
I would like to add these drawers to main document windows; they need to operate
in the normal layer, not disappear when the app is in the background - and
definitely not interleave.
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to this
I'd be very grateful to hear it.
Ben Rubinstein | Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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