Hi
Il 28/08/2018 17:22, Hernâni Borges de Freitas ha scritto:
Assuming that I have a structure of
/
/application-a
/application-b
With roles and managers assigned to realms /application-a and /application-b
and several AnyObjects defined in /.
Would it be possible for a user manager in /application-a to assign the
AnyObject X defined in / to a group that only exists in /application-a ? Would
be possible for another user manager in /application-b to the same for the same
AnyObject defined in / ? Bear in mind that we are talking about the same
AnyObject and it only exists in the parent realm not in the realm of any of the
applications.
Yes, it is possible to assign groups in /application-a to objects in /.
According to documentation "/A User or an Any Object can be members of
Groups in the same realm or in one of the parent realms./"
But, _if the manager user has assigned a role on realm /application-a_,
*no* is not possible for that user a to manage objects in /. You should
assign to the manager a role that gives entitlements on realm /.
Or use delegated administration through dynamic realms, describe here
[1]. But I think ou should use delegation only if there isn't any other
chance to implement your scenario.
Thanks so much again
Hernani
Best regards,
Andrea
[1]
https://syncope.apache.org/docs/2.0/reference-guide.html#delegated-administration
On 28 Aug 2018, at 15:43, Andrea Patricelli <andreapatrice...@apache.org> wrote:
Il 28/08/2018 16:34, Hernâni Borges de Freitas ha scritto:
Hi Andrea,
Thanks for you fast answer.
I thought about using a new AnyObject instead of the user directly because our
usage for users will be somehow special without having passwords for them for
instance, but just some metadata associated which we can leave not associated
with users but to this new anyObject.
Only a tip about this: password propagation and storing is optional, so you can
create users without managing their passwords.
About the mapping you are suggesting: what is still confusing me is how to
allow a user to be present in more than one realm and still only allow managers
of those realms to assign the users to the groups they can control. For user X
I need that managers of realm /a are able to assign it to groups inside /a and
managers of /b to assign it to groups inside /b.
Ok, now I got.
If you assign to USER with, for example, username "manager-a" the role
"manager-role-application-a" (assigned to realm /a) with entitlements to update user or
anyobject, you can manage groups of anyobjects in realm /a and all its children.
Best regards,
Andrea
Hernani
On 28 Aug 2018, at 15:21, Andrea Patricelli <andreapatrice...@apache.org> wrote:
Hi Hernâni,
Il 28/08/2018 13:18, Hernâni Borges de Freitas ha scritto:
Hello
I am trying to map an organization composed by the same user base that uses
different applications and have different roles in those applications to Apache
Syncope. We are only using syncope to provide authorisation to the
applications, not authentication. Those applications will consume authorisation
for different members via Syncope REST API.
Syncope has the following realms:
/
/application-a
/application-b
/application-x
- We are using apache syncope to manage membership to groups in different
applications. Those different applications have their own managers who can
define groups and memberships under their realms in syncope.
- All members belong to the same organization and are shared by different
applicatinos. They can be members of different groups in different applications.
- Each application is defined by a realm and managers of those applications
have roles with entitlements in those realms that allow to define groups. They
can only define membership in groups in their realms and not in other realms.
- As far as I understand, objects in syncope can only belong to a realm, so it
is not possible to have them in different realms and have managers able to edit
memberships only for groups in their realm. To avoid this I created a new
AnyObject of a new AnyType which maps our members in different realms. For each
application where our members are, there is an AnyObject in the correspondent
realms. If member A is in Application A and Application B there will be two
AnyObjects for it, one in /application-a realm and another one in
/application-b realm. Managers of those realms can edit AnyObjects in their
realm without problems.
Why you do not use USER to map members into realms? Why did you create a new
ANY_OBJECT?
I would like to know if there simpler ways to map this hierarchy in syncope
specially without the need to replicate the members in different anyobjects
that are editable in the different realms and I would like to understand if
there is a better way to organize realms, groups and objects than the one I am
planning to use.
You can define roles and map the role to a specific realm, for example:
manager-role-application-a -> map it to /application-a realm and assign
entitlements to update users (only in /application-a realm and children).
manager-role-application-b -> map it to /application-b realm and assign
entitlements to update users (only in /application-b realm and children).
manager-role-application-x -> map it to /application-x realm and assign
entitlements to update users (only in /application-x realm and children).
With children I mean inner realms like /application-a/child-a/ or
application-x/child-x
Bear in mind that realms entitlements are applied from the current realm to the
inner ones, please refer to documentation at [1].
HTH,
Andrea
[1] https://syncope.apache.org/docs/2.0/reference-guide.html#realms
Thanks
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Developer @ Tirasa S.r.l.
Viale D'Annunzio 267 - 65127 Pescara
Tel +39 0859116307 / FAX +39 0859111173
http://www.tirasa.net
Apache Syncope PMC Member
--
Dott. Andrea Patricelli
Tel. +39 3204524292
Developer @ Tirasa S.r.l.
Viale D'Annunzio 267 - 65127 Pescara
Tel +39 0859116307 / FAX +39 0859111173
http://www.tirasa.net
Apache Syncope PMC Member
