That sounds good to me. Shall I open a JIRA / PR about updating the site
community page?
On 2015년 1월 23일 (금) at 오전 4:37 Patrick Wendell patr...@databricks.com
wrote:
Hey Nick,
So I think we what can do is encourage people to participate on the
stack overflow topic, and this I think we can do
+1
On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 5:58 PM, Nicholas Chammas
nicholas.cham...@gmail.com wrote:
That sounds good to me. Shall I open a JIRA / PR about updating the site
community page?
On 2015년 1월 23일 (금) at 오전 4:37 Patrick Wendell patr...@databricks.com
wrote:
Hey Nick,
So I think we what can
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-5390
On Fri Jan 23 2015 at 12:05:00 PM Gerard Maas gerard.m...@gmail.com wrote:
+1
On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 5:58 PM, Nicholas Chammas
nicholas.cham...@gmail.com wrote:
That sounds good to me. Shall I open a JIRA / PR about updating the site
Ok, thanks for the clarifications. I didn't know this list has to remain
as the only official list.
Nabble is really not the best solution in the world, but we're stuck
with it, I guess.
That's it from me on this subject.
Petar
On 22.1.2015. 3:55, Nicholas Chammas wrote:
I think a few
But voting is done on dev list, right? That could stay there...
Overlay might be a fine solution, too, but that still gives two user
lists (SO and Nabble+overlay).
On 22.1.2015. 10:42, Sean Owen wrote:
Yes, there is some project business like votes of record on releases
that needs to be
Yes, there is some project business like votes of record on releases that
needs to be carried on in standard, simple accessible place and SO is not
at all suitable.
Nobody is stuck with Nabble. The suggestion is to enable a different
overlay on the existing list. SO remains a place you can ask
I've have been contributing to SO for a while now. Here're few
observations I'd like to contribute to the discussion:
The level of questions on SO is often of more entry-level. Harder
questions (that require expertise in a certain area) remain unanswered for
a while. Same questions here on the
I agree with Sean that a Spark-specific Stack Exchange likely won't help
and almost certainly won't make it out of Area 51. The idea certainly
sounds nice from our perspective as Spark users, but it doesn't mesh with
the structure of Stack Exchange or the criteria for creating new sites.
On Thu
we could implement some ‘load balancing’ policies:
I think Gerard’s suggestions are good. We need some “official” buy-in from
the project’s maintainers and heavy contributors and we should move forward
with them.
I know that at least Josh Rosen, Sean Owen, and Tathagata Das, who are
active on
On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 10:21 AM, Sean Owen so...@cloudera.com wrote:
I think a Spark site would have a lot less traffic. One annoyance is
that people can't figure out when to post on SO vs Data Science vs
Cross Validated.
Another is that a lot of the discussions we see on the Spark users
list
Love it!
There is a reason why SO is so effective and popular. Search is excellent,
you can quickly find very thoughtful answers about sometimes thorny
problems, and it is easy to contribute, format code, etc. Perhaps the most
useful feature is that the best answers naturally bubble up to the
FWIW I am a moderator for datascience.stackexchange.com, and even that
hasn't really achieved the critical mass that SE sites are supposed
to: http://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/55053/data-science
I think a Spark site would have a lot less traffic. One annoyance is
that people can't figure
Josh / Patrick,
What do y’all think of the idea of promoting Stack Overflow as a place to
ask questions over this list, as long as the questions fit SO’s guidelines (
how-to-ask http://stackoverflow.com/help/how-to-ask, dont-ask
http://stackoverflow.com/help/dont-ask)?
The apache-spark
Hi,
I tried to find the last reply by Nick Chammas (that I received in the
digest) using the Nabble web interface, but I cannot find it (perhaps he
didn't reply directly to the user list?). That's one example of Nabble's
usability.
Anyhow, I wanted to add my two cents...
Apache user group could
I think a few things need to be laid out clearly:
1. This mailing list is the “official” user discussion platform. That
is, it is sponsored and managed by the ASF.
2. Users are free to organize independent discussion platforms focusing
on Spark, and there is already one such platform
2015 02:55:33 +
Subject: Re: Discourse: A proposed alternative to the Spark User list
To: petar.zece...@gmail.com; user@spark.apache.org
I think a few things need to be laid out clearly:
This mailing list is the “official” user discussion platform. That is, it is
sponsored and managed
I think this is a really great idea for really opening up the discussions
that happen here. Also, it would be nice to know why there doesn't seem to
be much interest. Maybe I'm misunderstanding some nuance of Apache projects.
Cheers
--
View this message in context:
Its a very valid idea indeed, but... It's a tricky subject since the entire
ASF is run on mailing lists , hence there are so many different but equally
sound ways of looking at this idea, which conflict with one another.
On Jan 21, 2015, at 7:03 AM, btiernay btier...@hotmail.com wrote:
I
Hi, guys!
I'm reviving this old question from Nick Chammas with a new proposal: what
do you think about creating a separate Stack Exchange 'Apache Spark' site
(like 'philosophy' and 'English' etc.)?
I'm not sure what would be the best way to deal with user and dev lists,
though - to merge them
People can continue using the stack exchange sites as is with no additional
work from the Spark team. I would not support migrating our mailing lists
yet again to another system like Discourse because I fear fragmentation of
the community between the many sites.
On Sat, Jan 17, 2015 at 6:24 AM,
The Stack Exchange community will not support creating a whole new site
just for Spark (otherwise you’d see dedicated sites for much larger topics
like “Python”). Their tagging system works well enough to separate
questions about different topics, and the apache-spark
Thanks for providing that additional background, Josh.
It looks like many people on that Google Groups thread wanted a better
interface than is offered by the Apache mailing lists. Some even raised the
idea of a bi-directional bridge
I like the idea and the hope that it turns 2+ places for discussions into
1, but in practice I think it will just turn it into 3+. The only thing I
can imagine is making a tool like this an overlay. Does that require much
integration work and does it affect anyone who can't use it?
People won't
Nice idea, although it needs a plan on their hosting, or spark to host it
if I'm not wrong.
I've been using Slack for discussions, it's not exactly the same of
discourse, the ML or SO but offers interesting features.
It's more in the mood of IRC integrated with external services.
my2c
On Wed
Nick,
uh, I would have expected a rather heated discussion, but the opposite
seems to be the case ;-)
Independent of my personal preferences w.r.t. usability, habits etc., I
think it is not good for a software/tool/framework if questions and
discussions are spread over too many places. I guess
We have a mirror of the user and developer mailing lists on Nabble, but
unfortunately this has led to significant usability issues because users
may attempt to post messages through Nabble which silently fail to get
posted to the actual Apache list and thus are never read by most
subscribers:
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