RE: how to prevent messages loss on startup with federation

2021-04-26 Thread Dondorp, Erwin
Justin, Thanks for the verification and suggestion. I'm not immediately executing the suggestion, as it is a bit complicated. Not only myself (as designer/prototyper) but so many others must use/maintain/operate the system after me (and 24/7)... But, I'll also investigate the (asymmetric)

Re: how to prevent messages loss on startup with federation

2021-04-26 Thread Justin Bertram
> ...the queue named "federated...etc" is just one more queue on the address, and certainly not the only one. That makes sense. Thanks for the clarification. This is off the top of my head, but you might be able to make this work using the following. Define separate acceptors for your normal

RE: how to prevent messages loss on startup with federation

2021-04-26 Thread Dondorp, Erwin
Justin, > I don't understand why send-to-dla-on-no-route won't work The messages originate from a producer-application on the first broker. There are consumer-applications connected to the first broker and there are consumer-applications connected to the second broker that are all interested in

Re: how to prevent messages loss on startup with federation

2021-04-26 Thread Justin Bertram
I don't understand why send-to-dla-on-no-route won't work. You say, "...the underlying queues for federation within the multicast address are only created after the brokers have connected." Since the queues are not there then there will be no route so send-to-dla-on-no-route would seem to be the

how to prevent messages loss on startup with federation

2021-04-26 Thread Dondorp, Erwin
Hello, We are setting up brokers that use "federation" to move messages from the first broker to the second. In our case, it takes a while before the brokers have connected. This is due to some slow network setup that we cannot control. But the underlying queues for federation within the