Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-website] Looking for 2nd Web Developer for BSA Site

2013-04-30 Thread Dries Feys
Not to mention the former Business Software Alliance, currently The Software Alliance, which is a bit strange in function to an opensource project ;-) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BSA_%28The_Software_Alliance%29 Met vriendelijke groeten, Salutations distinguées, Kind Regards, DRIES FEYS

Re: [libreoffice-users] Error trying to install LibreOffice 4.0.2.2 on ubuntu 12.10

2013-04-30 Thread Kracked_P_P---webmaster
On 04/29/2013 11:01 PM, Dan Lewis wrote: On 04/29/2013 09:57 PM, Hugh Lupien wrote: When trying to install LibreOffice 4.0.2.2 on ubuntu 12.10 using the readme directions that follow: sudo dpkg -i *.deb The above DEBSdpkg command does the first part of the installation process. To complete

[libreoffice-users] Check Box size in LO Base

2013-04-30 Thread Ian Whitfield
Hi All Question regarding LO Base, (being used as a Front End to a MySQL Database). (PCLOS, LO 3.6.5.2) I have eight 'Check Boxes' on my Form that work just fine but I find them a little small and can find no way to make them larger. I tried pulling them out and changing the Font size but

Re: [libreoffice-users] Paragraph styles

2013-04-30 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) I am a bit bitter about this sort of thing too.  Even back when i was in school i could see teachers clearly trying to help people.  Unfortunately general attitudes of the kids in the classroom meant that even those of us that were interested in learning the skill had a tough time.  It

Re: [libreoffice-users] Paragraph styles

2013-04-30 Thread Kracked_P_P---webmaster
I no longer need to write in any required style or page format. SO, I never got into using styles. But you have a valid point in needing students to learn how to use it. The fact that writing style requirements change every so often. I went to 4 colleges and received 3 degrees. The

Re: [libreoffice-users] Paragraph styles

2013-04-30 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) I think you are thinking of Word rather than Writer.  Also you are talking about House Styles for different companies, different institutions, different professors.  Language and fashions do evolve too as you were also saying.  In Word Styles do tend to get very messy very quickly and

Re: [libreoffice-users] Paragraph styles

2013-04-30 Thread Kevin O'Brien
On 4/30/2013 6:56 AM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) I am a bit bitter about this sort of thing too. Even back when i was in school i could see teachers clearly trying to help people. Unfortunately general attitudes of the kids in the classroom meant that even those of us that were interested in

Re: [libreoffice-users] Paragraph styles

2013-04-30 Thread anne-ology
Same experience here; the rules keep changing, so I stick with the Keep It Simple system ;-) On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 6:47 AM, Kracked_P_P---webmaster webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote: I no longer need to write in any required style or page format. SO, I never got into

[libreoffice-users] XY Chart in Writer

2013-04-30 Thread Rheinländer
Hi, is it possible to create a true XY Chart in Writer? If I do Insert - Object - Chart and then change the chart type to XY (Scatter), I get a Chart Data Table with three Y-Columns but no X-Column. And I can't see how it is possible to add an X Column. It I do a XY-Chart in Calc and then

Re: [libreoffice-users] Error trying to install LibreOffice 4.0.2.2 on ubuntu 12.10

2013-04-30 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) The wiki-page recommends using sudo apt-get purge libreoffice? but i never quite trust the single question mark and replace that with a star to be certain of getting everything.  Also i'm not sure about purge as i suspect it gets rid of settings, configs, Extensions, galleries and

Re: [libreoffice-users] Paragraph styles

2013-04-30 Thread T. R. Valentine
One additional thought: those who have learnt HTML and CSS should find using styles quite natural — it is the same separation of content from presentation (styles). -- T. R. Valentine Your friends will argue with you. Your enemies don't care. 'When I get a little money I buy books; and if any is

Re: [libreoffice-users] Error trying to install LibreOffice 4.0.2.2 on ubuntu 12.10

2013-04-30 Thread Kracked_P_P---webmaster
I use cd desktop-integration then sudo dpkg -i *.deb I tend to bring up the folder that has the files and then run the command on the files without dealing with the run file in different folder type of work. I have not had any issues with desktop menu installs for Ubuntu since going to

Re: [libreoffice-users] Paragraph styles

2013-04-30 Thread Kracked_P_P---webmaster
NO it was a Writer file from the 3.4.x days. The file needed a lot of work and additions to reflect the changes from 3.6.x to 4.0.x. I was not the one who created the document, but I had it for over a year and finally had some time to work on that documentation. I almost gave up. The

Re: [libreoffice-users] Error trying to install LibreOffice 4.0.2.2 on ubuntu 12.10

2013-04-30 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Sorry i missed this one earlier!  The suggestion to sudo dpkg -i *.deb cd desktop-integration Now run the dpkg command again: sudo dpkg -i *.deb is about the same as sudo dpkg -i *.deb sudo dpkg -i desktop-integration/*.deb except that in the 1st case you can just press the up

Re: [libreoffice-users] Paragraph styles

2013-04-30 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)  I think that is called a teaching moment and they are extremely rare.  In 20 years of teaching one can expect about 4 of those.  Regards from Tom :)  snip / Just today, one of my students was stunned to watch that work. You mean I don't have to make the same change to every

Re: [libreoffice-users] Check Box size in LO Base

2013-04-30 Thread Ian Whitfield
On 30/04/2013 12:43, Ian Whitfield wrote: Is there a way of adjusting the Check Box size at all? On 30/04/13 14:54, Fernand Vanrie wrote: The model must have a Height and Width property ? Changing this only seems to enlarge the background colour. The Check Box itself DOES NOT

Re: [libreoffice-users] Serious application development with LibreOffice and LibreOffice Basic

2013-04-30 Thread Wolfgang Keller
At one client, this week's production check-in of an application developed in MS Office (mostly Access) 2007/2010 code is now up to: 110,315 LOCs, 380 Modules, 249 Stored Procedures, and counting... They probably need that much code because VBA is so poor (while also being quite vociferous),

Re: [libreoffice-users] Error trying to install LibreOffice 4.0.2.2 on ubuntu 12.10

2013-04-30 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) The main point was to remove the older version of LibreOffice with sudo apt-get remove libreoffice* or synaptic or something, before starting the install of the newer version.  It is possible to install more than one version at a time but as a general rule it's less confusing to stick

Re: [libreoffice-users] Paragraph styles

2013-04-30 Thread Wolfgang Keller
Do you use styles? The point with OO/LO is that unfortunately, like Word, its style concept does not allow to work in the structure markup way. So, even if you tried to use styles consistently, you wouldn't be able to benefit from it the way you can with e.g. LyX/LaTeX or document processors

Re: [libreoffice-users] New bug 64028: Calc forgets cell format when cell is cut (^X)

2013-04-30 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)  I think it is and always has been the default behaviour of all spreadsheets on all OSes.  It's never occurred to me that it is oddly cumbersome.  I suspect Mike just didn't notice because it's such a normal thing to have happen.  In the bug-report someone suggested a Cut Special just

Re: [libreoffice-users] Check Box size in LO Base

2013-04-30 Thread Dan Lewis
On 04/30/2013 08:54 AM, Fernand Vanrie wrote: On 30/04/2013 12:43, Ian Whitfield wrote: Hi All Question regarding LO Base, (being used as a Front End to a MySQL Database). (PCLOS, LO 3.6.5.2) I have eight 'Check Boxes' on my Form that work just fine but I find them a little small and can

Re: [libreoffice-users] Paragraph styles

2013-04-30 Thread Dan Lewis
Comments inline: On 04/30/2013 11:45 AM, Wolfgang Keller wrote: Do you use styles? The point with OO/LO is that unfortunately, like Word, its style concept does not allow to work in the structure markup way. What do you mean by a structured markup way? Please be specific. So, even

Re: [libreoffice-users] Paragraph styles

2013-04-30 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
Le 30/04/2013 13:47, Kracked_P_P---webmaster a écrit : I no longer need to write in any required style or page format. SO, I never got into using styles. But you have a valid point in needing students to learn how to use it. The fact that writing style requirements change every so often. I

Re: [libreoffice-users] Paragraph styles

2013-04-30 Thread Kevin O'Brien
On 4/30/2013 2:36 PM, Jean-Francois Nifenecker wrote: Le 30/04/2013 13:47, Kracked_P_P---webmaster a écrit : carried away with their complexity. People having to *write* shouldn't be bothered with any conceptual complexity (the template manufactoring). This should be taken care elsewhere by

Re: [libreoffice-users] Paragraph styles

2013-04-30 Thread Virgil Arrington
Several of the posts have brought me to thinking a few random thoughts. 1. There's a difference between *using* styles and *creating/editing* them. In the LyX/LaTeX world, as well as the HTML/CSS world, one is indeed forced to used styles (called environments in LaTeX speak) because that's the

Re: [libreoffice-users] Get Involved with LibreOffice - No Programming Skills Needed

2013-04-30 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) I thought this was a good call and wondered if anyone new is interested.  It can be quite addictive though so take care! Regards from Tom :) From: Joel Madero jmadero@gmail.com To: users@global.libreoffice.org users@global.libreoffice.org Sent:

[libreoffice-users] About.Com's poll a few months ago

2013-04-30 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) I never managed to vote even 2 days on the trot and didn't even remind people very often, certainly not my plan for doing so every 2nd day.  The thing i find disturbing about their poll is that they allowed MSO to be advertised more prominently than the announcement of the winners in

Re: [libreoffice-users] Paragraph styles

2013-04-30 Thread Dave Liesse
As an end user, I'd like to ask one follow-up question to your third point. This is an I don't understand type of question, by the way, not a challenge. Are you implying that if I want to, say, indent one paragraph with no other changes, I should create a new style for that? Seems like a

Re: [libreoffice-users] Get Involved with LibreOffice - No Programming Skills Needed

2013-04-30 Thread Joel Madero
On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 12:53 PM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.ukwrote: Hi :) I thought this was a good call and wondered if anyone new is interested. It can be quite addictive though so take care! Regards from Tom :) 2 new people jumped in the room today :-D Another 10-15 is still

Re: [libreoffice-users] Paragraph styles

2013-04-30 Thread Virgil Arrington
Dave asked, Are you implying that if I want to, say, indent one paragraph with no other changes, I should create a new style for that? Seems like a lot of work since it can be done with one mouse clicks (or, if I ever get around to learning how to create shortcut keys, one keystroke

Re: [libreoffice-users] Paragraph styles

2013-04-30 Thread Dan Lewis
On 04/30/2013 04:18 PM, Dave Liesse wrote: As an end user, I'd like to ask one follow-up question to your third point. This is an I don't understand type of question, by the way, not a challenge. Are you implying that if I want to, say, indent one paragraph with no other changes, I should

Re: [libreoffice-users] Paragraph styles

2013-04-30 Thread Steve Edmonds
On 2013-05-01 08:53, Virgil Arrington wrote: Dave asked, Are you implying that if I want to, say, indent one paragraph with no other changes, I should create a new style for that? Seems like a lot of work since it can be done with one mouse clicks (or, if I ever get around to learning how

Re: [libreoffice-users] Paragraph styles

2013-04-30 Thread T. R. Valentine
On 30 April 2013 14:23, Steve Edmonds steve.edmo...@ptglobal.com wrote: One of the most frustrating things is fixing other peoples documents that are full of direct formatting. True: (Ctrl+A followed by Ctrl+M) :-) -- T. R. Valentine Your friends will argue with you. Your enemies don't

Re: [libreoffice-users] XY Chart in Writer

2013-04-30 Thread Steve Edmonds
Hi. Insert as you have done as object. Add a series and the x column will be present. The chart is created with some demo data, delete these series. Steve On 2013-05-01 01:38, Rheinländer wrote: Hi, is it possible to create a true XY Chart in Writer? If I do Insert - Object - Chart and then

Re: [libreoffice-users] XY Chart in Writer

2013-04-30 Thread Rheinländer
Hi Steve, Insert as you have done as object. Add a series and the x column will be present. The chart is created with some demo data, delete these series. thanks, that works fine. But what I am really trying to do is to write a Macro to create a XY-Chart. See below. Whatever data I pass to