On 03/03/2016 04:09 AM, Felmon Davis wrote:
> I used to use POP (and it's still set up on a couple of my machines
> albeit not currently in use) but mainly I'm on IMAP. what I liked
> about POP was the ease of making local backups of email. it's been a
> couple of yrs since I've explored options
On 03/02/2016 05:57 PM, toki wrote:
>> Also, if you're leaving email on a POP server for a period of time,
> it's going to be there when someone comes looking for it.
>
> That is not the threat model I was addressing.
Then what was it?
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On 03/02/2016 05:08 PM, toki wrote:
> If, as is usually done with IMAP, the email is stored on a server that
> is neither owned, nor operated, nor controlled by the recipient of the
> email, then the security issue is the IMAP vendor turning that email
> over to third parties without your
On 03/02/2016 03:46 PM, Paul D. Mirowsky wrote:
> Thunderbird is a database of information. The fact that there is no
> data replication built in is not the inhibiting factor to doing so.
It is an email client, nothing more. If you want replication, you're
going to need some means for all
On 03/02/2016 12:06 PM, Tanstaafl wrote:
>> IMAP is a security risk that increases the attack surface area. YaHoo,
>> > should I say more.
> No, you really shouldn't, because you obviously don't know what you're
> talking about.
>
> The only thing IMAP *might* have in common with Yahoo is that
On 03/02/2016 11:32 AM, Paul D. Mirowsky wrote:
> IMAP is a pre-existing condition.
>
> The ability for POP clients to keep all of their shared clients
> current is a glaring omission that should be rectified.
> I regret not having the ability to do this myself.
I guess you don't know much about
On 02/29/2016 11:18 AM, Paul D. Mirowsky wrote:
> The unique possibility to SyncPOP instead of IMAP is an interesting
> proposal.
> I would feel far more secure if Thunderbird directly re-aligned itself
> on different machines I use then have it floating out on the web.
> If LibreOffice where to
On 02/28/2016 11:21 AM, Tim---Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote:
> The only thing about Thunderbird, for me right now, was the "chore" it
> was to to switch systems when the one it was on, since 2010, is now
> down for repairs. It was not geared for syncing your email between
> two or more systems -
I came across this article today.
http://www.techrepublic.com/article/libreoffice-5-1-sweet-subtle-and-necessary-polish/?ftag=TRE475558a=12825460
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On 02/11/2016 03:33 AM, Steve Edmonds wrote:
> And there is the distinction between precision and accuracy. You can
> be very precisely inaccurate.
I guess you've never studied Calculus, where the answer often
approaches, but never actually reaches some value. You can get closer
and closer, but
And it's all nonsense. The bible is provably fiction.
On 01/21/2016 06:32 AM, nasrin khaksar wrote:
> and also we and all belivers of divine religions convince monotheism
> and eternity of god.
> also we believe that prophet jesus is alive and appeare with emam
> mahdi peace be upon him. who is
On 01/21/2016 08:12 AM, nasrin khaksar wrote:
> but the religion of islam
> is the last divine religion that all prophets
That is until the next one comes along. Before Islam, Jews and then
Christians both claimed they had the last word. No doubt there will be
some other "prophet" coming along
On 01/20/2016 03:15 AM, Philip Rhoades wrote:
> Please leave superstitious nonsense (like the stuff below) out of
> posts to lists that are about real-world technology.
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On 01/20/2016 03:49 AM, Erik Jan wrote:
>
> The beauty of the free world is that everyone is free to speak their
> mind. You are free to think and proclaim that religion is
> superstition, and others are free to think and proclaim God's mercy.
As history and recent events have proven, those who
On 12/30/2015 04:08 PM, Arthur Luthold wrote:
> How do you type in accents, the tilda, or the two dots (umlaut in german)?
>
> Arthur Luthold
>
One method I use is to have more than one keyboard layout available.
Both Linux and Windows support this so that you can select the layout
you wish at
On 12/12/2015 05:21 PM, John Boyle wrote:
> To Users: I belong to a computer club, and today we had a presentation
> on WIN 10 and how much of a headache it really is to install, even for
> professionals. I would like to know what version of LibreOffice has
> even a chance to work with WIN
On 11/29/2015 12:11 PM, Al Leibovitch wrote:
> Program installed successfully, but can not open.
>
> On Sun, Nov 29, 2015 at 7:09 AM, James Knott <james.kn...@rogers.com
> <mailto:james.kn...@rogers.com>> wrote:
>
> On 11/28/2015 09:53 PM, Al Leibovitch wro
http://www.techrepublic.com/article/the-uk-government-embraces-open-source-with-the-help-of-libreoffice/?tag=nl.e011_cid=e011=e011=TRE475558a
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On 11/11/2015 12:36 PM, jorge wrote:
> It looks like a Troll with a web site, isn't it ?
What are you talking about???
Jack Wallen has long written articles about open source software.
BTW, it's not necessary to send to both me and the list. I read the
list and prefer to keep the mail
On 10/18/2015 11:15 PM, jorge wrote:
> As I remember there is an option for example in Evolution mail program
> to let or not the original mail in the server. Is an option of the user.
> This option we check when start a new account.
Other email apps, such as Thunderbird and Seamonkey, also
Apparently his religion allows him to violate this list by posting
religious crap.
On 10/07/2015 08:29 AM, Philip Rhoades wrote:
> Can this junk be stopped please?
>
>
> On 2015-10-06 20:54, nasrin khaksar wrote:
>> in the name of god the most compassionate the most merciful.
>> hello every one.
On 09/16/2015 02:20 PM, Robert Watt wrote:
> Taking the above in account, which ‘version’ of Libre Office is compatible
> with the latest version of Mac OSX (my Mac Mini is at v’10.10.5 Yosemite).
Go to www.libreoffice.org and download the latest version. While I
can't speak specifically about
On 09/17/2015 03:25 AM, Andreas Säger wrote:
> In particular, this is not an alternative
> editor for MS Office documents.
Your comments are contrary to the experiences of many who have used
LibreOffice and OpenOffice for years.
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On 09/17/2015 08:04 AM, Andreas Säger wrote:
> Am 17.09.2015 um 13:08 schrieb James Knott:
>> On 09/17/2015 03:25 AM, Andreas Säger wrote:
>>> In particular, this is not an alternative
>>> editor for MS Office documents.
>> Your comments are contrary to the
On 09/14/2015 08:41 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
> Does anyone know if it installs onto the device itself so that it's usable
> off-line?
AndrOffice works off line. However, your friend should test it before
he goes. Also, while it works on a tablet, I'd hate to use it on a phone.
There are currency
I came across this article recently:
http://www.eweek.com/enterprise-apps/slideshows/libreoffice-5.0.1-open-source-productivity-suite-at-a-glance.html?utm_medium=email_campaign=EWK_NL_WHN_20150907_STR6L1=272322735=22079222
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On 08/26/2015 05:12 AM, Derrence Ross wrote:
I have created a Document under Libreoffice
I had an attachment that I wanted to send with it
but could not see how to do it.
Can you help me?
D.Ross
Normally, attachments are used with email. Is that what you're trying
to do?
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On 08/20/2015 06:12 AM, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
I miss the depth of old BYTE! magazine reviews.
I have every print issue of Byte on my shelf, right from the first,
Sept. 1975. I bought my first subscription, at the Ottawa Hamfest in
1975, from the original publisher, Wayne Green.
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On 08/18/2015 04:24 PM, zed wrote:
James Knott james.kn...@rogers.com wrote:
I just came across this article.
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2418419,00.asp?mailing_id=1431647mailing=whatsnewnowmailingID=E2768DCC83E0602F9C1DB70A73032992
The review seems to be of LibreOfice v4.0. So
On 08/19/2015 06:25 AM, Andreas Säger wrote:
LO 5 is experimental (beta at best).
Not according to www.libreoffice.org.
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I just came across this article.
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2418419,00.asp?mailing_id=1431647mailing=whatsnewnowmailingID=E2768DCC83E0602F9C1DB70A73032992
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databases. Nor did he mention that
it can be used as the front end for other databases.
( Just spouting off a little. )
Dan
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Date:08/18/2015 2:22 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: LibreOffice users@global.libreoffice.org
On 08/06/2015 08:52 PM, V Stuart Foote wrote:
All LibreOffice archive builds (including the latest 5.0.0.5 release) in
the packaging of your choice:
I see there's now a 64 bit Windows version available. Does the 32 bit
version have to be uninstalled first?
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On 07/25/2015 09:35 AM, Graham P Davis wrote:
We only had log tables; standard slide rules weren't allowed as they
were too inaccurate. Drifting a bit more OT, ball-point pens weren't allowed
either, only fountain pens.
To put this in some sort of perspective, I left school in 1962 aged 18.
On 07/23/2015 04:40 AM, Gary Collins wrote:
We didn't have computers at all at school
We didn't either. I had a FORTRAN class in grade 12 and filled in
pencil mark cards, which the teacher took to the board office, to run on
the computer there.
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On 07/22/2015 07:28 PM, anne-ology wrote:
I thoroughly enjoyed the way these massive machines were portrayed
in the movies -
filling an entire room, whirrin' with lights a-flashin'
I used to maintain that sort of computer.
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On 07/22/2015 04:38 PM, toki wrote:
Not even the science fiction of the fifties and sixties anticipated that
by the end of the twentieth century, computers would be as ubiquitous
as they were.
I have a Tricorder app for my Android phone. ;-)
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On 07/21/2015 07:15 AM, Gary Collins wrote:
My first home computer was a BBC micro (anyone remember those?) That was back
in the days when programming had to be really tight, only had 32Kb (yes, Kb)
of RAM; long term storage was all external on cassette tapes
My first computer was an IMSAI
On 07/19/2015 07:52 AM, Rob Jasper wrote:
Getting a system running by inserting the bootstrapper papertape on the first
punched holes
On my first computer, I had to use the front toggle several bytes into
memory, before there was anything to run. I also worked on some Data
General Nova
On 07/18/2015 05:56 PM, Tom Williams wrote:
Comments about how
Linux is good for basic things and not good for productivity.
Tell that to all the scientists who use supercomputers. The vast
majority of them, including my cousin, run Linux. Also, a while ago,
all the computers on the
On 07/18/2015 11:00 AM, Gary Dale wrote:
And after looking at Windows 8, it seems to be getting worse, not better.
I have to use 8.1 on my work computer and have 10 in a virtual machine.
While 10 is an improvement on 8.1, it's still nowhere near what W7 was.
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On 07/18/2015 09:25 PM, James E Lang wrote:
The big discussion of Linux over the past 24+ hours has me wondering: What
operating environment(s) do other members of this list use at home and at
work? What factors influence the choice?
Personal:
All computers run openSUSE 13.1
ThinkPad E520
On 07/01/2015 02:55 PM, Regina Henschel wrote:
Hi Luuk,
Luuk schrieb:
On 1-7-2015 20:21, Regina Henschel wrote:
Hi John,
I guess, you run into this bug
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48887
If it is true that LO cannot open a file, .
than you have a point
No,
On 06/25/2015 10:05 AM, James E Lang wrote:
PDF? I'm not sure I know where to look for LO documentation in this format?
https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/documentation/
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On 06/24/2015 08:01 PM, toki wrote:
Microsoft program specifications have defined F1 as the help key for
at least two decades.
Ah... So, it's fairly new then. ;-)
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On 06/24/2015 12:58 PM, dallen wrote:
Hi All,
I'm an experienced Technical Writer beginning work on LibreOffice's
documentation, but I have some questions for LibreOffice users:
1) Does anyone EVER look at the pdf documentation? If not, why not?
I have occasionally used the PDFs
2)
On 06/10/2015 08:23 AM, Darius Saulenas wrote:
Hello
I am new with open source products, so I decide to try your product, as I
am fed up with microsoft.However I writing to let you know that I've tried
to download the software, but in the mid of 150 Mb it fails to download,
I've tried two
On 05/28/2015 01:12 PM, Andreas Säger wrote:
Am 28.05.2015 um 18:57 schrieb James Knott:
On 05/28/2015 12:38 PM, James Knott wrote:
On 05/28/2015 12:21 PM, Andreas Säger wrote:
I don't understand why any application should do this.
Put your files into your assumed auto-start folder. I would
On 05/28/2015 01:08 PM, Cley Faye wrote:
To launch LibreOffice, you either use a shortcut of some sort, or directly
run a command in a run dialog. That's true for any OS.
No, as I mentioned, it's not true with OS/2 and work area folders. If
you had a document in that folder opened, then closed
On 05/28/2015 12:21 PM, Andreas Säger wrote:
I don't understand why any application should do this.
Put your files into your assumed auto-start folder. I would use links
instead of the real files.
Open that folder, hit Ctrl+A and Enter to open all the files with the
default application.
That
On 05/28/2015 12:38 PM, James Knott wrote:
On 05/28/2015 12:21 PM, Andreas Säger wrote:
I don't understand why any application should do this.
Put your files into your assumed auto-start folder. I would use links
instead of the real files.
Open that folder, hit Ctrl+A and Enter to open all
On 05/13/2015 08:04 AM, mkrbins wrote:
Oh, I'm not sure I made myself clear.
What I was asking is
Can soffice use a directory resulting from an unzip as if it were an odt
document?
If I understand what you're saying, you may be able to edit it, but
unless you save it elsewhere, your changes
On 04/23/2015 10:47 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
MSO 2013
was the first that allowed people to save in strict but the resultant
files don't seem to be able to be opened in any version of MS Office.
Those files are probably write only. ;-)
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On 04/19/2015 03:15 PM, Piet van Oostrum wrote:
A prime is the symbol ' or also written as ′ or ’
so in school math you often has variables x and x' or even x'' or x'''
These are called x prime x double prime or x triple prime.
So, suspect' would be prime suspect? ;-)
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On 04/19/2015 05:36 PM, toki kantoor wrote:
I am an attorney and no court in the USA would use email to summon a
I've forgotten the cite, but in a pleading justifying the use of posting a
summons to the individual's FaceBook account, the lawyers cited half a dozen
cases where the courts
On 04/14/2015 05:52 PM, James E. Lang wrote:
Please disregard this message.
Will do. ;-)
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On 04/13/2015 10:16 AM, Andreas Säger wrote:
But nobody does. Not my bank from where I import account statements,
yahoo finance, amazon, ebay, you name it.
Well, I often see it, particularly on government forms. On the other
hand, I have often seen dates and wondered what format it was, as
On 04/13/2015 09:38 AM, Andreas Säger wrote:
This __happens__ to work for you. What does 12-04-2015 actually mean?
On my system this will be interpreted as 12th of April. People with US
locale will get a date value referring to the 4th of December.
That is why people should be using only the
On 04/13/2015 12:30 PM, Tom Davies wrote:
They prefer to have everything
from August waaay before anything from March.
Another thing that adds to the fun is the 12 hour clock, so that 12:59
AM is before 1:00 AM. Of course, another bit of nonsense is 12 AM or
PM. The precise moment of 12:00 is
On 04/13/2015 12:37 PM, James Knott wrote:
For example, I am posting this at 2005 04 13 12:37. There is absolutely
no doubt as to when that is.
Ooops!!! Typo. That should be 2015, not 2005.
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On 04/13/2015 12:46 PM, Piet van Oostrum wrote:
For example, I am posting this at 2005 04 13 12:37. There is absolutely
no doubt as to when that is.
Except for the time zone :)
If relevant, then specify.
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On 03/14/2015 08:18 PM, charles meyer wrote:
I’ve never printed business cards using Libre Writer and it didn’t go
well using the Avery online template.
In my experience, printing your own cards isn't worth it, unless you
need just a few. In addition to the cost of the cards, they tend to be
On 02/09/2015 11:09 AM, jaxmail2...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello LibreOffice,
I am considering downloading LibreOffice.
Could you please advise me if I can consequently uninstall Microsoft Works
without detriment to my
existing previous saved letters etc.?
Yes, you can install LibreOffice and
On 02/01/2015 03:40 PM, Wiebe van der Worp wrote:
Running msconfig is always a nightmare with brands like Asus, Acer,...
Running misconfig...??? ;-)
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On 01/13/2015 06:50 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
It's in England.
That would be a bit of a commute from Canada. ;-)
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On 12/19/2014 06:05 PM, visajo.lj wrote:
I need assistance with the word documents.
What sort of assistance?
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I do not know how to get into the word document so I van compose or
set up a letter or mailing list. I have never used libre before. Can
you please send me information. Thank you
On Dec 20, 2014 7:45 AM, James Knott james.kn...@rogers.com
mailto:james.kn...@rogers.com wrote:
On 12/19
http://www.consortiuminfo.org/standardsblog/article.php?story=20140722125241786
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On 12/17/2014 11:04 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
Historical reasons really. The company tries to avoids using anything
modern and generally prefers to do things the awkward way.
Still using quills on parchment? ;-)
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On 12/11/2014 12:34 PM, Helen wrote:
How can I tell LO spreadsheet that in this particular cell, I want
to write January 2014 and that's what I want it to say- don't change it
to date format, just leave that text.
Thanks,,
You could set the cell format to text.
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On 11/22/2014 10:34 AM, Rob Jasper wrote:
I used to work for Bell Labs, and they had as standard (!) perforation the US
3 + the US 4 holes, and we just added Europe's 4 holes, so in total there
were 11 holes...
Was there any paper left? ;-)
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On 11/17/2014 07:41 AM, Andreas Säger wrote:
Windows comes with a perfect RTF editor called WordPad.
I thought it now used the new WTF format. ;-)
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This could be useful to users of both LibreOffice and OpenOffice.
http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/10-things/10-ways-to-help-users-move-from-microsoft-office-to-libreoffice/?tag=nl.e011s_cid=e011ttag=e011ftag=TRE475558a
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On 10/18/2014 07:07 AM, Tim---Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote:
Someone remind me. . . .
What were all of the popular forks off from OpenOffice.org?
I remember a European one [EuroOffice?], a Mac one [NeoOffice?], and
OxygenOffice. I know there were others. Many died on their own for
lack of
On 10/17/2014 02:29 AM, Werner wrote:
Hi Tom,
On 10/16/2014 19:31, Tom Davies wrote:
...
Of course Star Office is still floating around somewhere but it doesn't
bear much resemblance to LibreOffice or even OpenOffice. So it can't
really count as a fork any more
StarOffice never was a
On 10/16/2014 01:17 PM, anne-ology wrote:
and then there's ...
The Road Not Taken
by Robert Frost (1874–1963)
And there's ...
When you come to the fork in the road, take it!
Yogi Berra
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On 10/16/2014 01:31 PM, Tom Davies wrote:
Of course Star Office is still floating around somewhere but it doesn't
bear much resemblance to LibreOffice or even OpenOffice. So it can't
really count as a fork any more and may not even be usable at all these
days.
StarOffice was the version of
I came across this article recently.
http://www.techrepublic.com/article/five-tips-for-speeding-up-your-work-within-libreoffice-writer/?tag=nl.e011s_cid=e011ttag=e011ftag=TRE475558a
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On 09/03/2014 07:15 AM, John King wrote:
LO 4.2 and 4.3 series on Opensuse 13.1 and Xubuntu 12.04
I am presently attempting to move some users from XP to Linux on our
peer-to-peer network, but have hit a problem with Libreoffice and
access to files on other networked machines.
When using LO
On 08/20/2014 01:30 AM, Hal Vaughan wrote:
This may sound like an easy one that should be easily findable, but when I
Google, almost all hits use check as a verb, talking about checking
printers.
Are there any forms or templates or anything for LibreOffice to help with
printing checks?
On 08/06/2014 05:29 PM, Pikov Andropov wrote:
I'm so confused by the multiple version that I have to ask.
Several neighbors are eligible for me to install LibreOffice.
One has Windows XP.
One has Windows 7 and o9ne has Windows 8.
One has Ubuntu and one has Linux Mint.
Another has Red Hat
On 08/04/2014 04:21 AM, Andrew Beverley wrote:
Word processor files will be saved with “.odt”
suffixes, rather than “.doc”.
I wonder how many people will try to just change the extension, without
saving as the appropriate file type?
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On 08/02/2014 05:39 AM, Pikov Andropov wrote:
Is everyone getting this every time some one writes a bad post?
I got one.
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On 07/21/2014 08:39 AM, Tanstaafl wrote:
was working on a 'wtf?'
Is that the new MS Office format? ;-)
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On 07/05/2014 06:08 AM, Strybel wrote:
Dear Sir or MadamI am hoping to touch base with a real live human being at
your end to ask a few quesitons. I am a jorunalist,. writer and translator
and am not into the mumbo-jumbo of computerese, so please don't refer me to
some online non-human
On 06/28/2014 09:23 AM, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote:
So, as soon as I get a working floppy drive working
One thing to bear in mind is some of those old floppies might be unreadable.
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On 06/27/2014 12:20 AM, Thomas Taylor wrote:
This message is NOT useful. Whom is it for and why was it sent to the entire
list?
Tom - moderator
I also got one of those.
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On 06/25/2014 10:41 PM, NoOp wrote:
Recently I have been able to replicate crashes on linux LO versions
4.1.x- 4.2.x deb versions (32bit and 64bit) when attempting to open a
10MB Microsoft Publisher file.
I didn't know LO could open Publisher files.
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On 06/22/2014 09:52 AM, minhsien0330 wrote:
Will we have a LESS BUG version
That should be fewer bug. Use fewer if you count the item, less if
you measure. I guess LO needs a grammar checker too. ;-)
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On 06/22/2014 03:27 PM, Luuk wrote:
MS is no standard.
Correction, MS is substandard. ;-)
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George Roberts wrote:
Is there any connection between Libre and Open Office?
The reason I ask, I downloaded Open Office, did a spreadsheet, and on
advice, was told Libre was better, so I downloaded Libre.
Then I did a copy/paste of my spreadsheet from OO to Libre, but the heading
still
Urmas wrote:
you are an idiot that should be kept out from developing office software.
Gee I didn't know I was developing office software. Thanks for
letting me know.
BTW, in case you haven't noticed, things have changed a bit in the past
16 years. Back then, there was still a lot of
Tom Davies wrote:
Also it is still easily possible to get older versions of software that can
read it and convert.
So, what's the latest version of LibreOffice or OpenOffice that will
read those formats? If needed, they could be used to save those old
files in a newer format.
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Jay Lozier wrote:
Also, there is no direct upgrade path from XP to W7 and I assume this
is true for W8 also.
I run openSUSE Linux on my computers and have for several years. It's
generally possible to to an upgrade as new versions come out. I
recently upgraded my motherboard hard drive (old
Urmas wrote:
Yeah, that really a problem, especially since LO didn't exist back then.
It was called StarOffice back then.
StarOffice became OpenOffice. LibreOffice split off from OpenOffice
when Oracle took over. IIRC, the formats that are no longer supported
are the ancient StarOffice ones.
Urmas wrote:
Meanwhile, Libreoffice cannot open its own documents from 2001.
Yeah, that really a problem, especially since LO didn't exist back then.
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charles meyer wrote:
Might anyone on the list be using a Samsung Galaxy Tablet 2?
I've been enjoying a Dickens of a time trying to get it to sync with
my PC so I can transfer a video file *from* the tablet to the
PC.
Samsung tech support has been abysmal and Google results have been
mostly
charles meyer wrote:
I only have a standard sd card - tablet requires a micro sd card and
the process look complicated on this tablet.
There are adapters that allow you to use a micro SD card in a standard
slot. You just remove the micro SD from the tablet, slide it into the
adapter and then
Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote:
Maybe I got confused. I thought my 10 inch was from a DEC system.
It was sure big. Maybe they used a different type. I donated it to a
college teaching staff for demoing old tech, along with my samples of
a punched card program, and some paper tape.
No, DEC
Jean-Louis Oneto wrote:
When Microsoft bought DRI
Microsoft didn't buy DRI. They bought Q-DOS from Seattle Computer
Products. Gary Kildall, creator of CP/M later took MS to court and
proved that MS-DOS contained directly copied CP/M code.
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