Jim Seymour wrote:
No, they didn't. Early Apple PCs ran the MOS Technologies (later:
Mostek) 6502. CP/M never ran on anything but the Intel 8080 and
Zilog Z80. (And only on the latter because it was a superset of the
former.) Eventually, Kildall realized the 8-bit processors' days were
Jim Seymour wrote:
Nor was CP/M-86 vapourware. It was short-lived, because Kildall was
way too late to the game, but it did exist. IIRC, the DEC Rainbow
dual-booted CP/M-86 and DOS?
CP/M-86 was also one of the 3 operating systems that were initially
available with the IBM PC. The third was
Urmas wrote:
Comparing to this, MS Word which used easy and open file format was a
clear winner.
Gee... I coulda sworn April 1st was last week.
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On 04/04/2014 05:56 PM, CVAlkan wrote:
Not sure if my recollections are correct, but I don't believe either DOS
(before 2.x) or the DOS version of Word were written by Microsoft. I
seem to
recall that both were purchased and re-branded.
DOS was bought from
Scott Castaline wrote:
I've always used as my first entry in each address book @@@. That
seems to still work as far as I can tell. My understanding is that the
bots can't seem to deal with that entry or it'll ignore the rest once
it encounters it.
Where are those bots running? Is this a
Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote:
What printer are you using? And what printer driver? PDF or
Postscript lever 1, 2, or 3?
Which version was the last it worked? The same and now it does not work?
If that is the case, it may be a problem with the config users files.
I don't recall how long
Jean-Francois Nifenecker wrote:
Le 01/04/2014 17:01, Tom Davies a écrit :
Hi :)
A ZdNet article titled (obviously) Office for iPad, big deal or big
yawn allows people to vote and so far the big yawn side is winning.
HoooRaaah! ;) The big yawn side appears to largely be supporting
Pedro wrote:
Maybe Apple fanboys don't care...
The problem (for LibreOffice and other Open Source office projects) is that
they are also offering it for free for the Android platform
Virgil Arrington wrote:
At the risk of beating a horse to death, today I stumbled on an online
rant against MS-Word.
The first word processor I used, as opposed to line oriented text
editors, was the one that came with VAX VMS on the VAX 11/780. Later, I
used PC-Write, on DOS, and then
I'm trying to configure LibreOffice to use digital certificates for
signing documents. Under OptionsSecurity, There's a Certificate
button, which opens a panel for configuring where the certificate is
located. However, it appears to be impossible to change that location.
After clicking OK and
I'm trying to fill in the info in a form provided in PDF format. While
I can open it in Draw and type in the info, the font is too large for
the area. Is there any way that I can change the overall font size,
instead of having to do it in each field? I have tried the Format
Character method,
Tom Davies wrote:
Hi :)
Err,
Ctrl A = select all?
Alternatively is each field use the same style name? Could you just
modify the style?
Regards from
Ctl-A affects the entire document, not just the boxes I enter text into.
How do you change font size in styles? I can open the Styles
Nino Novak wrote:
Am 14.03.2014 14:00, schrieb Custfold:
I'm getting a bit annoyed at having my address book split between
Personal Address Book and Collected Addresses, with an attempt at
getting a Master Combined address book not too successful
Can someone tell me the sequence/commands to
myfmh...@ybb.ne.jp wrote:
I donated Japanese yen through MasterCard on 3 Mar. 2014 to get LIBREOFFICE
by your internet form ,but the softwear could not downloaded.
Please send me how to download.
You don't have to pay to download LibreOffice. It's always free from
www.libreoffice.org,
Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote:
Now once we have LO for Android and Mac i devices,
There is a version of OpenOffice for Android now available. That will
certainly meet your requirements for working with ODF on a tablet,
though you'll want one with a large display.
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Jim Seymour wrote:
I agree, re: The role of I.T. I.T. is not an end, but a means.
;-)
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Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote:
On Wed, 2014-02-26 at 10:08 -0500, James Knott wrote:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.andropenoffice
That doesn't work on my Kindle - tried it and kept getting an error
message about not being able to download resources...
That would
James E Lang wrote:
I wish I could afford to purchase a 10 Android tablet. As it stands I am
running this app on my 4.1 Motorola Atrix phone and though it's imperfect I
am thrilled to be able to do so. Some day … :-)
I have a Nexus 7 tablet and Nexus 5 phone. There are certainly things I
Jonathon wrote:
Two major issues with tablets as desktop/laptop replacements, is that they
are neither multi-tasking, nor multi-user.
Later versions of Android support multiple users.
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Virgil Arrington wrote:
A few years ago, most lawyers in the U.S. used WordPerfect, and they
really liked it. It had some features that were very suitable for the
law office. However, most of their corporate clients were using Word.
(Nobody ever got fired for buying Microsoft). Over time, law
Doug wrote:
but when I really
need to get down and dirty, WP is the place to be.
Many years ago, I occasionally had to use WP at work. I much preferred
Wordstar 2000. Back then I was using PC-Write at home. ;-)
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Stephan Weinberger wrote:
Maybe i'm not going to make friends, but OOXML strict actually *is* an open
standard. The real problem is, that MS-Office until 2013 was not capable of
creating strict files, but wrote OOXML transitional instead (which may -
and as a matter of fact always did -
Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote:
I just received an e-newsletter that referred to this article.
I just read that article. We must get the same newsletter. :-)
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maddie10...@gmail.com wrote:
are people with libreoffice able to have an account that they can save work
to so that they don't have to use the same computer all the time.
I am a middle school student and I am doing this from a home computer and I
want to be able to access my spreadsheets
Earl Beavers wrote:
Have I been scammed? I agreed to a $5 charge but the program would not
download or react in any way.
I feel like a dunce.
I assume you downloaded from somewhere other than www.libreoffice.org.
If so, you may have been scammed, or at least paid when you didn't have
to.
Mark LaPierre wrote:
MS is lost in the concept of making all interfaces look the same on
Windows Phone, Surface, and desktop. MS Office 2013 totally ignores the
setting and scheme that you have on your desktop. I'm talking serious
eye strain. People have been complaining about it for more
Doug wrote:
Is there a way to make Libre save in MS Word 1997-2003 .doc format as
a default?
If so, how?
Using version 4.1.
Thanx--doug
Yes, click on ToolsOptionsLoad/SaveGeneral and make your selection there.
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Tinkerer wrote:
I have downloaded a c,s.v file from my Bank and created a Template for the
Bank listing.
I can load the Bank file into a new Spreadsheet and I then have to reformat
it.
Why can I not Import it into the Template, or is there another way?
Templates are used to create
Tinkerer wrote:
That is exactly what I am trying to do.
I open the CSV Template then I go to Insert Sheet from File OK and it
creates another sheet either before or after the sheet from the Template.
I finish up with a two sheet file, one sheet Formatted and the other sheet
with the Bank
e-letter wrote:
If a m$ document is stored on a public web server (E.g.
http://path.to.document.com/file.doc), is it possible to change
directly the name of the converted file which is created in the local
directory? Otherwise, 'mv' can be used after conversion, but it would
be able to rename
tk wrote:
There is AndroidOpenOffice.
I tried that a while ago, on my Nexus 7, and it didn't work very well.
I uninstalled it.
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Robert Holtzman wrote:
Linux is a clone of UNIX, an epitome of a proprietary operating system.
Wrong yet again, oh trolling one. Linux was derived from minix.
Actually, Linux created Linux in part because he found Minix so
limiting. However, the goal of both was a Unix like environment. The
Virgil Arrington wrote:
So, my computer has Office (Starter version), LO *and* WordPerfect, so
I can talk to just about anybody.
No PC-Write??? ;-)
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Urmas wrote:
Just think about it: there was NOT A SINGLE successful FOSS-created
project so far.
Ever hear of Linux? Besides those of us who use it on our desktops, it
also runs about 95% of the super computers, most of the Internet (along
with Apache), including the likes of Google, Yahoo and
Urmas wrote:
Because people buy computers to work, not to tinker with.
There are many who don't need Windows but are forced to pay for it with
a computer. Take a look at the strong arm tactics MS has used over the
years to see how they got to this point.
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M. Fioretti wrote:
*Big* charities often have the problems that Jonathon said. Very small
organizations, instead, need to spend zero time/money on
maintaining/re-learning the software they have to use, because it
would be all resources subtracted to working in the streets with the
people they
Peter West wrote:
If people writing documents on their private computers had been obliged to
but a copy of MS Office, alternatives would have been embraced much more
enthusiastically.
FWIW, several years ago, I bought a copy of PC-Write for DOS. It was
shareware, but if you paid for it,
Urmas wrote:
James Knott сообщил(а) в новостях
следующее:529918d1.30...@rogers.com...
...and then hold [created documents]
hostage, until the users coughs up for MS Office.
There is immense number of software capable import DOC files, due to
their format being virtually unchanged since
James Knott wrote:
FWIW, several years ago, I bought a copy of PC-Write for DOS. It was
shareware, but if you paid for it, they sent a manual. I might still
have that manual here somewhere.
Found it. Now, I wonder if PC-Write is available on the web somewhere. ;-)
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Tom Davies wrote:
Also on newer machines MS have started running a cunning scheme
whereby people get to use a trial version of MS Office which then
stops working after a month or so. In order to keep on using it
people have to pay an extra bit.
That happened to a friend of mine about 3 years
John Meyer wrote:
I didn't know we considered trialware cunning.
They let people create edit documents for a while and then hold them
hostage, until the users coughs up for MS Office.
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Paolo Debortoli wrote:
think microsoft did the same politics with charities and schools: discounted
prices (but they are still stealing money somehow...)
One thing MS got caught doing was providing free software to charities
and then claiming full retail value as a tax deduction.
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Alfie Mc wrote:
Hi im a big fan of your free software and wondered if i could attain resale
rights thus allowing me to distribute your product within the uk on cd roms
which will definitely promote your product/company.
As I understand it, there are no resale rights. You are free to
Mark Bourne wrote:
I always think of # as being a sharp sign.
The musical sharp symbol is slightly different: ♯
Yeah, it is a bit flat to be a sharp sign. ;-)
I've always known it as a number sign.
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josephine mcdonald wrote:
hi, i donated $10.00 via pay-pal 11/18/13... but now i'm having trouble
downloading libreoffice.. i can't get past the page asking for a donation??
can you help?
You don''t have to make a donation to download, though it's certainly
appreciated. Where are you
john herron wrote:
Can Apache OO be installed alongside LO (to run at different times)?
Both can be installed and even run at the same time.
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On 11/12/2013 11:08 PM, June Newman wrote:
I have libreoffice installed on a mac with os x 10.8. If I prepare a
presentation and put it on a flash drive, will it play on a windows computer.
I don't have the right adapter to connect to a digital projector, and need
to use a windows laptop.
June, it's not necessary to cc to anyone. If you send to the list, we
will see your message.
On 11/13/2013 08:53 AM, June Newman wrote:
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Daniel wrote:
Is there an extension in LO in order to read DRM ebooks?
Why would you want to read ebooks in an office suite, when there are
already many apps for that task?
BTW, other than library books, I try to avoid DRM. I don't have a
single DRM book that I own a copy of. The books I buy,
Urmas wrote:
So you've just made that malarkey up? Wow.
He is correct in saying MS did a lot of things to cripple competition.
That AARD code was one. They also used hidden API as was revealed when
Borland sued them and more. They have a very long history of playing
dirty, up to and including
Urmas wrote:
James Knott:
That AARD code was one. They also used hidden API as was revealed when
Borland sued them and more.
'AARD code' was not in any retail version of Windows. It is fake.
Well, you 'd better thel that to the guys at DR-DOS and also those in
the antitrust case
Marc Grober wrote:
And I wish I was still able to use wordstar ;-)
I used to use Wordstar 2000 at work.
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Valter Mura wrote:
Seems to be the same story as Netscape vs. Internet Exploder... oops
Explorer...
MS was also late to the game for the Internet. Apparenly BG didn't
think much of it. IIRC, they bought another app to make IE.
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Urmas wrote:
Just a simple question, Do you know who originally designed Microsoft
Office?
Microsoft mostly.
IIRC, they bought what became Excel and I believe Word too, from other
companies.
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Virgil Arrington wrote:
StarOffice users are Linux users? . . . .
I have never seen StarOffice available for Linux. StarOffice was a MS
OS package not a Linux package, when it first came out, so StarOffice
audience was a Windows audience and not Linux. Actually OOo, AOO,
and LO may have its
baldwin linguas wrote:
I can remember writing college papers with Clarisworks.
And there was Wordperfect from Corel.
Although, I'm uncertain whether these were before or after MSOffice.
I saw them both before I ever heard of MSOffice, though.
Let's see...Clarisworks was released 1984.
James Knott wrote:
I used to use PC-Write on DOS many years ago. IIRC, the same company
had a spreadsheet and database available. Of course, if we don't limit
ourselves to PCs, the mainframe and minicomputer world had office
software long before there was such a thing as a PC.
Forgot
Marcello Romani wrote:
Am I the only one smelling a troll here ?
And here I was thinking it was my socks! ;-)
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I have been using LibreOffice and OpenOffice before it for many years
and have never seen such behaviour. As for associating older files,
that's an operating system function, where all files of a specific type,
no matter how old, are associated with the specified app. So, if you
associate XLS
Ken Springer wrote:
Back in the 8-bit computer days, it was easy to find simple charts for
various things, like this simple ASCII font chart.
LMAO!!! Forgot to include the link!
http://www.asciitable.com/
Does anyone know of a similar simple chart for modern/contemporary
fonts?
Robert Holtzman wrote:
On Wed, Oct 09, 2013 at 10:52:09AM +0200, Anthony Easthope wrote:
But I like compiling from source complains the battle scared OS
pioneer!
[1]http://lifehacker.com/398611/how-to-compile-software-from-source-cod
e
The link leads to not found, at least for me.
Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote:
I think we would have more Linux users if packages like LO can be
installed with one click of the mouse onto the install file as Windows
does with the .msi file.
That can already be done. Generally, if a package is available as an
RPM or DEB file, then clicking
Jay Lozier wrote:
My observation is that for the many users of Linux, Windows, and Macs
will have about the same experience once installed and configured. I
have a couple of friends who have me take care of the Linux boxes. They
do not seem to have any trouble with Linux once I got it set up
Tom Davies wrote:
Is anyone else still getting extra duplicates a day or few after the original
posts?
They seem to have stopped for me.
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Have you tried to do that for LO?
How many package files need to be run to install LO on a Linux box?
There are 52 .deb files to run/install in the 4.1.2 64-bit Debian
install, plus the help pack, plus the language pack if needed.
Like to do a single click or
Paul wrote:
There is nothing inherent in linux that makes it harder (barring the
sheer number of distros; see below), it depends purely on how much
effort the developers are willing to go to for any particular linux
distro.
Don't forget, LO is included in many distros. It might not be the
Milos Sramek wrote:
A friend recently asked me, if it is possible to remotely install and
configure LibreOffice on numerous client machines - so that the admin
does not have to run from one computer to the next to do the job. Is
that possible for LO?
Yes, it's certainly doable. It's easy
Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote:
People keep telling me to use a different /home partition, but I never do.
When you do your next upgrade, get another drive for /home and use the
original for everything else. Then copy your entire /home directory to
the new drive. When you install the next
Dave Liesse wrote:
And, of course, our daylight (summer) time has to be different from
the rest of the world. We start earlier and end later than the
European countries
And different again from the Southern Hemisphere, where they're wrong by
6 months.. ;-)
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Brian Grainger wrote:
To Whom it May Concern,
Trying to download and install the latest Windows version of
LibreOffice from a machine in the UK running Windows 7 and Internet
Explorer.
Using the standard process for downloading from the download page the
LibreOffice install file came as a
Urmas wrote:
...Because Linux is inherently broken and cannot run vanilla builds of
software. Also repositories keep prehistoric versions of apps only,
backporting only the security issues fixes, which have to be manually
picked from the developer's VCS and manually patched in. So to fix a
Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote:
It was really nice of Windows to stop allowing me to boot into Ubuntu
after I upgraded from Vista to Win7. I had to use a boot fixer disc
to give me back my Ubuntu. At least that laptop is the one I use only
once in a while, since I have a small drive in it,
Brian Barker wrote:
Could some helpful person with the right sort of account please report
this as a bug at the LibreOffice site? Meanwhile I may contact
catn.com directly.
Go tho the LO site and place your mouse pointer over the link. What
file name shows up at the bottom of the browser?
Don Myers wrote:
I started with Ubuntu with version 8.10, and have had each version
since then. I generally find it easiest to do a clean install. One
advantage of that is every 6 months I have a complete backup of my
hard drive. The second advantage is it is very easy to do. Each
program has
Wolfgang Keller wrote:
Didn't you post that question yesterday already?
It's like déjà vu all over again. ;-)
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Has anyone else been getting duplicate messages from this list? For the
past couple of days, I have been receiving messages from this list that
I had already received 2-3 days earlier.
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Virgil Arrington wrote:
So, you should get two copies of this email. However, I've never had
to wait 2-3 days for the second copy. It usually comes within minutes
of the first message.
This morning I received some from Sept 30 and Oct. 1, including one from
me, which I had already seen. When
Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote:
But the first day it happened, it also happened outside of the LO
lists and included ALL of my email and newsletters recieved that morning.
It's only happening with the LO list. I use Seamonkey email.
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Brian Barker wrote:
At 18:14 03/10/2013 +0200, M Henri Day wrote:
Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols has published an interesting article,
*French police move from Windows to Ubuntu Linux* (
http://www.zdnet.com/french-police-move-from-windows-to-ubuntu-linux-721479/
), over at ZDNet. It deals
I've just received a batch of resent messages, such as the one below,
from some idiot joto2...@verizon.net, who thinks it's fun to resend
messages without adding any content.
joto2036 wrote:
- Original Message - From: James Knott james.kn...@rogers.com
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Ruth Ann wrote:
I am curious as to how the Provider works.
Thank you for telling us about it.
I installed Provider in Thunderbird last night and see that I now have
a tab for Google Calendar next to my tab for Lightening.
My Google calendars display, and I was able to add an event to Google
Ruth Ann wrote:
I have been using Lightening and Google both for a long time.
In the past, I have always just made separate entries in both
calendars - synchronized them manually so to speak.
So, I have always had a Calendar tab next to my email tab in
Thunderbird. Then last night, when I
John Jason Jordan wrote:
What have I missed?
Have you enabled a Greek keyboard? I have configured mine for U.S.
English, International English and Greek. So I can easily switch layouts
to type stuff like ³¤€óÓæςερτδωδσ© and more.
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Alex Thurgood wrote:
Please also note that the Gdata provider 0.25 currently causes
Thunderbird to hang, requiring the user to restart TB in safe mode.
I haven't had that problem with the Provider for Google Calendar on
either Linux (version 24.0) or Windows (v17.0.3). It just works.
However,
Tom Davies wrote:
Hi :)
Is that
http://www.sogo.nu/english.html
No, nothing to do with it. This is Google calendar in Thunderbird.
I might be interested in trying to get that working in a couple of weeks but
first need to see some screen-shots and stuff so i will hunt around their
site
Alex Thurgood wrote:
Also bear in mind that the Google Data provider and Lightning
extension are said not to work with the newest version of Google's
calendar communication protocol API meaning that if nothing is done
about it, the whole thing will become a white elephant.
Does the new
Ruth Ann wrote:
Now that is pretty nifty! ;-)
You can also connect to Google Calendar with your tablet or smart
phone. I also use gcontact sync to sync my address book with GMail. Of
course, my tablet and phone contacts are synced too.
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Occasionally on this list, someone asks about open source email
calendar that can be used with LibreOffice. Here are instructions for
using Google Calendar with Thunderbird. You can use the Thunderbird
Add-Ons manager to install both Lightning and Provider for Google
Calendar, instead of going
Doug wrote:
Using the command prompt in administrator mode, there is a subdirectory
that I can't uninstall. How do you get elevated privileges in the
command prompt? (Win 7 PRO-64.)
Create an icon. on the desktop or Start menu, to run a command propmpt.
You can then right click on it and
Robert Orzanna wrote:
I noticed that LibreOffice's PDF creator does not add the created PDF
to the list of recently created files. Through google I found a
related bug report but without any comments on it yet.
My understanding of that recent files lists are files you recently
edited and are
Tom Davies wrote:
For most people the answer is to shrug and pay the money because they are
unaware of any other option and wherever they bought the machine from is
unlikely to know either (or at least not admit to knowing).
I just did a quick search for computers on Amazon (since it
Tom Davies wrote:
A4 as used by almost the entire rest of the world (incl Canada).
Actually, we use US Letter in Canada. I have never seen A4 available
in stores.
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Tom Davies wrote:
I just had a glimpse of an Android and it looks like it's got a
mini-Usb socket in the top. If that could break-out to a powered
usb-hub then surely you could get keyboard, mice, maybe even screens working
off the Android?
So 1 docking station at work and 1 at home
rost52 wrote:
The metric system has it is advantage in the factors of 10 or 1/10. I
consider this as the reason why most countries adopted the metric system.
It was also designed as a logical system, tied to defined physical
constants. I recently watched a video about how the new standard for
Brian Barker wrote:
The kilometre [...] is currently determined by the wavelength of
light emitted by the kry[p]ton-86 items.
Sorry, but for the avoidance of confusion, you are thirty years out of
date. Since 1983, the metre has been defined as the distance
travelled by light _in vacuo_ in
Ruth Ann wrote:
Metric just never caught on here in the USA. And I noticed that as the
signs were replaced, the news ones just gave the distance in miles again.
You can thank Reagan for that one. Peanut Carter had implemented a plan
to convert, but Reagan killed it. This was the same period
Uwe Dippel wrote:
I have yet to find a nice way to draw the vertical line that is usually
used in solving definite integrals; the one where one writes upper and
lower limits as sub and sup.
Can anyone suggest anything better than | which comes out looking quite
wrong?
Are you using Math?
Felmon Davis wrote:
anyway, I agree with Tom we shouldn't disagree about agreeing to
disagree.
I disagree. ;-)
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Mark's Google A/c wrote:
I've been getting a *lot* of failed mail notifications from the
mailing list over the last few weeks.
After extensive investigation, there doesn't appear to be anything
wrong with my mailbox or mail servers, so I'm curious, how many other
people get this, either
Urmas wrote:
James Knott:
Here's an article you can show to others.
http://lifehacker.com/battle-of-the-office-suites-microsoft-office-and-libre-1147940828
What a ridiculous article. The LO suite inadequacy is clear to any who
worked with it more than 15 minutes. The reason
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