On 05/05/2013 at 15:22, Ken Springer snowsh...@q.com wrote:
But the company's goals should be to meet the user's goals first. If
you don't meet your users goals, your level of success will never reach
the top.
Precisely: company's product should meet company's target users goals.
I am sure
From: Miroslaw Zalewski [mini...@poczta.onet.pl]
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2013 8:25 AM
In open source world, you are supposed to scratch your own itch (that is: send
patches or hire someone to do it for you). If you can't or are unable to, then
you might be better off somewhere else.
This is one of
Le 05/05/2013 02:10, Ken Springer a écrit :
One of my other personal gripes about today's computer users and some
employers.
IMO, this is a long time marketting motto which I try to fight: IT is
*not* easy and IT is *not* intuitive. Unfortunately, for more than 30
years, the powers-that-be
Dear Ken,
could you please post numbers of these bugs here? The topic sounds to be
interesting
Thanks
Milos
Dňa 05.05.2013 00:32, Ken Springer wrote / napísal(a):
As I noted in private email, LO still has not assigned two bugs I
filed to anyone yet. They are classified a low priority. As I
On 05/05/2013 at 00:32, Ken Springer snowsh...@q.com wrote:
As I noted in private email, LO still has not assigned two bugs I filed
to anyone yet. They are classified a low priority. As I mentioned, the
issues are not low priority to me, so if they don't want to fix them,
I'll pay for a
On 5/5/13 2:35 AM, Milos Sramek wrote:
Dear Ken,
could you please post numbers of these bugs here? The topic sounds to be
interesting
Thanks
Milos
Dňa 05.05.2013 00:32, Ken Springer wrote / napísal(a):
As I noted in private email, LO still has not assigned two bugs I
filed to anyone yet.
Hi, Mirosław,
Interspersed reply below.
On 5/5/13 4:08 AM, Mirosław Zalewski wrote:
On 05/05/2013 at 00:32, Ken Springer snowsh...@q.com wrote:
As I noted in private email, LO still has not assigned two bugs I filed
to anyone yet. They are classified a low priority. As I mentioned, the
On 5/5/13 12:13 AM, Jean-Francois Nifenecker wrote:
Le 05/05/2013 02:10, Ken Springer a écrit :
One of my other personal gripes about today's computer users and some
employers.
IMO, this is a long time marketting motto which I try to fight: IT is
*not* easy and IT is *not* intuitive.
On 5/5/13 5:45 AM, Virgil Arrington wrote:
A program is intuitive if it matches something in our previous experience.
Before computers, business professionals used typewriters. If you want a
computer to be intuitive, you need to make it work as much like a typewriter
as possible. (I'm still
Last night I replied to a posting from Andrew K., and I thought I sent
it to the list, but apparently9 I didn't. So here it is:
On 05/04/2013 11:14 PM, Andrew K wrote:
Hi,
I use styles as much as I can, just to achieve consistent formatting,
to say nothing of time saving.
I find that most
Doug,
Le 05/05/2013 17:29, Doug a écrit :
I may be wrong, but it would seem to me that all this fuss about styles
is made by people who are trying to do desktop publishing.
Styles are, obviously, a step towards DTP but, as you emphasize, a word
processor is no DTP (as much as a word
From: Ken Springer [snowsh...@q.com]
Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2013 7:49 AM
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Paragraph styles
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=44871
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46986
Will wonders never cease... The first
On 05/05/2013 01:19 PM, Virgil Arrington wrote:
Doug wrote,
I may be wrong, but it would seem to me that all this fuss about
styles is made by people who are trying to do desktop publishing.
That's fine, altho there are probably better programs to do that,
even available to Linux users. I'm
Sent: Sunday, 5 May 2013, 13:49
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Paragraph styles
On 5/5/13 2:35 AM, Milos Sramek wrote:
Dear Ken,
could you please post numbers of these bugs here? The topic sounds to be
interesting
Thanks
Milos
Dňa 05.05.2013 00:32, Ken Springer wrote / napísal(a):
As I
where the fault lays.
On 5/5/13 10:58 AM, V Stuart Foote wrote:
From: Ken Springer [snowsh...@q.com]
Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2013 7:49 AM
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Paragraph styles
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=44871
https://bugs.freedesktop.org
:)
From: Doug dmcgarr...@optonline.net
To: Virgil Arrington cuyfa...@hotmail.com; users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Sunday, 5 May 2013, 19:20
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Paragraph styles
On 05/05/2013 01:19 PM, Virgil Arrington wrote:
Doug wrote,
I
On 5/5/13 12:20 PM, Doug wrote:
On 05/05/2013 01:19 PM, Virgil Arrington wrote:
Doug wrote,
snip
I write letters--where I have a heading saved as a file that I can
import--and I write occasionally for publication, in which case I write
double-spaced,
extra space for paragraph, and no
On 5/5/13 9:29 AM, Doug wrote:
Last night I replied to a posting from Andrew K., and I thought I sent
it to the list, but apparently9 I didn't. So here it is:
On 05/04/2013 11:14 PM, Andrew K wrote:
Hi,
I use styles as much as I can, just to achieve consistent formatting,
to say nothing of
On 5/5/13 1:11 PM, Tom Davies wrote:
snip
LaTex, Inkscape(?), Scribus and others are almost purely about Desktop
Publishing. You kinda have to know what you are aiming for before
you start.
You probably can rough it a bit but it's going to be awkward.
Just my thoughts from what people
On 5/5/13 12:53 PM, Tom Davies wrote:
I don't think it's fair to blame TDF for the failures of Oracle or Sun and
it's not fair to assume that just because your pet peeves haven't been
sorted by Sun that they are not going to be sorted under TDF.
I blame neither Oracle or Sun for anything.
:)
From: Ken Springer snowsh...@q.com
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Sunday, 5 May 2013, 20:41
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Paragraph styles
On 5/5/13 12:53 PM, Tom Davies wrote:
I don't think it's fair to blame TDF for the failures of Oracle
-
From: Doug
Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2013 2:20 PM
To: Virgil Arrington ; users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Paragraph styles
On 05/05/2013 01:19 PM, Virgil Arrington wrote:
Doug wrote,
I may be wrong, but it would seem to me that all this fuss about styles
is made
dmcgarr...@optonline.net; users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Sunday, 5 May 2013, 21:21
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Paragraph styles
Of course, everybody's work is different. From what you described you could
use Notepad and get the job done.
However, as an attorney, I write legal briefs
Sure, I'll give it a try.
Virgil
-Original Message-
From: Tom Davies
Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2013 4:48 PM
To: Virgil Arrington ; Doug ; users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Paragraph styles
Hi :)
Virgil, is there any chance you you uploading your template
:)
From: Milos Sramek sramek.mi...@gmail.com
To: Ken Springer snowsh...@q.com
Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Sunday, 5 May 2013, 9:35
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Paragraph styles
Dear Ken,
could you please post numbers of these bugs
: [libreoffice-users] Re: Paragraph styles
Hi :)
A couple of months ago someone gave an excellent link to a place where you
could 'vote' on what you want some free-lance devs to work on and assign a
value of cash you would pay of they fixed it. Typical amounts would be around
1 beer in a pub
: Sunday, 5 May 2013, 22:45
Subject: RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: Paragraph styles
Tom,
Were you thinking of this?
http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Microfund-your-favourite-Issue-tc4035685.html#none
Stuart
From: Tom Davies [tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk]
Sent
@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Saturday, 4 May 2013, 0:49
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Paragraph styles
I tend to agree with Wolfgang on this one.
I think the difference for Felmon is that you are the master of documents.
Sounds like its your job to clean up everyone's mess and you seem to get the
final
On 4/29/13 12:43 PM, Tom Davies wrote:
Hi :)
In MS Office styles are an excessive waste of time. You just have to accept
that documents will have changing fonts, bullet-point sizes, misnumbering
in lists and even changes in language used by spell checkers.
Are you saying the styles area a
On 5/4/13 10:59 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
Hi :)
At my work place they have just run a 3 month training course in MS Office
2010. We are 2 months in and people still don't know how to select a
printer
or turn the machine on or off. The tutor has to do all that. I was also
expecting a few to
I never even try to share documents between different programs, such
as Word and LO or OO.
I never even try to share documents between two users using both the
same program *and* the same document template, if the program is Word
(or LO /OO). With these applications, the re-use of content is
On Fri, 3 May 2013, Wolfgang Keller wrote:
I never even try to share documents between different programs, such
as Word and LO or OO.
I never even try to share documents between two users using both the
same program *and* the same document template, if the program is Word
(or LO /OO). With
Hi :)
A big
+1
to that.
Regards from
Tom :)
From: Felmon Davis dav...@union.edu
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Friday, 3 May 2013, 17:41
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Paragraph styles
On Fri, 3 May 2013, Wolfgang Keller wrote:
I
: Felmon Davis
Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 12:41 PM
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Paragraph styles
On Fri, 3 May 2013, Wolfgang Keller wrote:
I never even try to share documents between different programs, such
as Word and LO or OO.
I never even try
Le 30/04/13 21:40, Virgil Arrington a écrit :
Hi Virgil,
4. Document collaboration is a real bugaboo. We lawyers share documents
repeatedly. I would create a document using styles, and send it off to a
colleague for further edits. I would get it back with a mess of styles
and direct
Alex wrote,
4. Document collaboration is a real bugaboo. We lawyers share documents
repeatedly. I would create a document using styles, and send it off to a
colleague for further edits. I would get it back with a mess of styles
and direct formatting. I see no answer to this conundrum, simply
Cor Nouws had de volgende lumineuze gedachte op 03-11-11 09:09:
Hi Don,
Don Parris wrote (01-11-11 02:19)
I am having to update a couple documents (contact directories) I created
under OOo some years ago. I had to save the documents in MS Word format
(*.doc), but used paragraph styles to
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