Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: moving to new version of MS Office

2013-11-29 Thread anne-ology
But what I cannot understand is why the continual changing by any ... to improve - ok; but this continual changing makes it nearly impossible to stay up-to-date; forinstance, the typewriter basically stayed the same - yes, they electrified it, even adding

[libreoffice-users] No offline help 4.2.0.0

2013-11-29 Thread Kolbjørn Stuestøl
Libreoffice 4.2.0.0 (beta 1). When I press F1 or Help - Help for LibreOffice in the menu I get the online help (https://help.libreoffice.org/), not the inbuilt offline help. Any way to force the program to open offline help as in LO 4.1 or do I have to wait untill the next release of 4.2? I

Re: [libreoffice-users] No offline help 4.2.0.0

2013-11-29 Thread Kolbjørn Stuestøl
Den 29.11.2013 14:27, skreiv Tom Davies: Hi :) Which language? It's possible that non-English(US) languages might still be being translated. Even the English (US) one might possibly not be completely ready yet = which would make it difficult to translate! There is a carefully thought out

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Copying text

2013-11-29 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Everyone gets all the emails to this list so in 1 email you can respond to multiple people at the same time. It feels unnatural and most people don't think of it but it can be done, in theory. I often deal with 1 email at a time and then when i read another email later on wished that i had

Re: [libreoffice-users] No offline help 4.2.0.0

2013-11-29 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Which language? It's possible that non-English(US) languages might still be being translated. Even the English (US) one might possibly not be completely ready yet = which would make it difficult to translate! There is a carefully thought out process and series of freezes for these things

Cost of MS Office relative to LO, was: Fwd: [libreoffice-users] Re: moving to new version of MS Office

2013-11-29 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) I've been thinking about this over-night a bit and it's the same old problem. People hear MS Office and think that it's all the same. One local charity is finding that on the rare occasion they get a new machine one of the first things they have to do is to install a different version of

Re: Cost of MS Office relative to LO, was: Fwd: [libreoffice-users] Re: moving to new version of MS Office

2013-11-29 Thread James Knott
Tom Davies wrote: Also on newer machines MS have started running a cunning scheme whereby people get to use a trial version of MS Office which then stops working after a month or so. In order to keep on using it people have to pay an extra bit. That happened to a friend of mine about 3 years

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: moving to new version of MS Office

2013-11-29 Thread Jay Lozier
On 11/29/2013 07:21 AM, anne-ology wrote: But what I cannot understand is why the continual changing by any ... to improve - ok; but this continual changing makes it nearly impossible to stay up-to-date; forinstance, the typewriter basically stayed the same -

[libreoffice-users] Python Uno on Ubuntu 13.10

2013-11-29 Thread Element Green
Hello, I recently upgraded to Ubuntu 13.10, which apparently deprecated the python-uno package which supports Python 2.7. Unfortunately I need this for use with Appy POD (http://appyframework.org/pod.html), which is a Python based libreoffice template framework for Writer and Calc. Any ideas

Re: [libreoffice-users] Python Uno on Ubuntu 13.10

2013-11-29 Thread Jay Lozier
On 11/29/2013 04:21 PM, Element Green wrote: Hello, I recently upgraded to Ubuntu 13.10, which apparently deprecated the python-uno package which supports Python 2.7. Unfortunately I need this for use with Appy POD (http://appyframework.org/pod.html), which is a Python based libreoffice

Re: [libreoffice-users] Libre form over MySQL limiting number of characters in text filed.

2013-11-29 Thread Girvin Herr
On 11/29/2013 09:05 AM, supp...@engineered-solutions.us wrote: Hi, I've got an odd result coming from a test drive DB I'm using OpenLibre to front end. DB is MySQL 5.5 using current MySql native driver on Server 2003 with base being installed locally same machine. Libre Base attaches to a

Re: [libreoffice-users] Python Uno on Ubuntu 13.10

2013-11-29 Thread Element Green
Thanks for the tip. However, I usually just use the command line applications apt-get, dpkg and apt-cache. This isn't a package manager or operator error, from what I can tell. There appears to be a lack of Python Uno support for Python 2.7 on Ubuntu 13.10. I'm trying to figure out how to add

Re: Cost of MS Office relative to LO, was: Fwd: [libreoffice-users] Re: moving to new version of MS Office

2013-11-29 Thread Paolo Debortoli
hi. I work in a state school, using ms windows and ms office...  i think I know the policy of microsoft.  I think they use a sort of (apparent) programmed obsolescence for the software.  I mean: periodically they add a new version with some changes in interface, macro programming, functions and

Re: Cost of MS Office relative to LO, was: Fwd: [libreoffice-users] Re: moving to new version of MS Office

2013-11-29 Thread James Knott
John Meyer wrote: I didn't know we considered trialware cunning. They let people create edit documents for a while and then hold them hostage, until the users coughs up for MS Office. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems?

Re: Cost of MS Office relative to LO, was: Fwd: [libreoffice-users] Re: moving to new version of MS Office

2013-11-29 Thread James Knott
Paolo Debortoli wrote: think microsoft did the same politics with charities and schools: discounted prices (but they are still stealing money somehow...) One thing MS got caught doing was providing free software to charities and then claiming full retail value as a tax deduction. -- To

Re: Cost of MS Office relative to LO, was: Fwd: [libreoffice-users] Re: moving to new version of MS Office

2013-11-29 Thread John Kennedy
soapbox The distain goes both ways. Remember that Stave Ballmer called open source software (specifically Linux) a cancer. Microsoft has a long history of passing similar opinions about FLOSS as fact and using their monopoly status to cull any competition. Why can you not buy a computer that is

Re: [libreoffice-users] Question

2013-11-29 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak
https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/How_Tos/Calc:_FV_function On 11/27/2013 07:12 PM, Dave Liesse wrote: I've had troubles in the past finding specific financial functions, as well. Can't help from the function standpoint in this case, but you could always fall back on the

Re: [libreoffice-users] Question

2013-11-29 Thread A
Now that Dave was kind enough to translate the problem into common financial terms I recognize, finding the FV function is easy. Menu-Insert-Function-Select Financial-FV OR, use the function wizard to accomplish the same. I've always hated word problems, I could never translate words into math

[libreoffice-users] Re: Cost of MS Office relative to LO, was: Fwd: Re: moving to new version of MS Office

2013-11-29 Thread Urmas
John Kennedy Why can you not buy a computer that is already configured to dual boot? Because no one needs it. Or why is it so difficult to buy a computer with no operating system? Because people buy computers to work, not to tinker with. Microsoft has decreed to computer manufacturers

[libreoffice-users] How do I set default date format in Writer?

2013-11-29 Thread fos
How can I set the date format in Writer so that whenever I select INSERT-FIELDS-DATE it will insert a hard December 31, 1999 (for example) instead of the 12/31/99 which is totally inappropriate for correspondence. Having to re-specify INSERT-FIELDS-OTHER-DATE-DATE(fixed)-December 31, 1999 every

[libreoffice-users] Re: Cost of MS Office relative to LO, was: Fwd: Re: moving to new version of MS Office

2013-11-29 Thread Urmas
Virgil Arrington: I'm no fan of MS, and I'm sure I don't fully understand all of its business practices, but I truly hope that disdain for Redmond is not the primary motivation for LO and other forms of FOSS. Foss people are hurt that no one is interested in their bungles except occasional

[libreoffice-users] Re: Libre form over MySQL limiting number of characters in text filed.

2013-11-29 Thread Alex Thurgood
Le 29/11/2013 18:05, supp...@engineered-solutions.us a écrit : Hi, I've looked for a configuration issue that might affect it, but it puzzles me since table and query operations work fine, why the form would adopt such an odd behavior. Anyone able to offer a suggestion what to look for

[libreoffice-users] Re: Python Uno on Ubuntu 13.10

2013-11-29 Thread Alex Thurgood
Le 29/11/2013 22:49, Element Green a écrit : Hi, There is a python3-uno, but it doesn't help me, since Appy POD does not yet support Python 3. The package was called python-uno on previous Ubuntu versions, but now its marked as deprecated and attempting to install it indicates that the

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Cost of MS Office relative to LO, was: Fwd: Re: moving to new version of MS Office

2013-11-29 Thread Peter West
Mac OS X (based on BSD and the Mach kernel) Android (based on Linux) Linux apache Firefox ant gcc OpenJDK xerces xalan fop saxon (up to and including Saxon HE) itext (recently commercialised) pdfbox Gnome KDE Gimp Clojure etc etc etc Oh, yes, LibreOffice. Seems successful to me. The world looks

Re: [libreoffice-users] How do I set default date format in Writer?

2013-11-29 Thread C
On 30/11/2013 08:03, fos wrote: How can I set the date format in Writer so that whenever I select INSERT-FIELDS-DATE it will insert a hard December 31, 1999 (for example) instead of the 12/31/99 which is totally inappropriate for correspondence. Having to re-specify

Re: Cost of MS Office relative to LO, was: Fwd: [libreoffice-users] Re: moving to new version of MS Office

2013-11-29 Thread M. Fioretti
On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 19:20:03 PM -0500, Virgil Arrington wrote: James wrote in response to John: I didn't know we considered trialware cunning. They let people create edit documents for a while and then hold them hostage, until the users coughs up for MS Office. I wouldn't consider it

Re: Cost of MS Office relative to LO, was: Fwd: [libreoffice-users] Re: moving to new version of MS Office

2013-11-29 Thread M. Fioretti
On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 21:57:50 PM +, Paolo Debortoli wrote: hi. I work in a state school, using ms windows and ms office... i think I know the policy of microsoft. I think they use a sort of (apparent) programmed obsolescence for the software. Hi Paolo, and... NO. Not the software. They

[libreoffice-users] Re: How do I set default date format in Writer?

2013-11-29 Thread Alex Thurgood
Le 30/11/2013 07:03, fos a écrit : Hi, How can I set the date format in Writer so that whenever I select INSERT-FIELDS-DATE it will insert a hard December 31, 1999 (for example) instead of the 12/31/99 which is totally inappropriate for correspondence. Having to re-specify

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: moving to new version of MS Office

2013-11-29 Thread M. Fioretti
On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 18:00:31 PM -0800, tk wrote: And along those lines, is there still a person, or group that constructs: * A Pan-Indian LibO DVD. Hi Jonathon, not sure what you mean here. Are you saying that there WERE such dvds, or that somebody SHOULD do them? Many companies,