Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice-Base CPU usage

2011-09-17 Thread Ian Whitfield



On 17/09/2011 04:03, Don Myers wrote:


This solved my problem totally. 1.6.0_21 works very fast with Base.


After LOTS of problems with Base I also went this way and it works for 
me too!!!


I can recommend it to everyone using Base Almost perfect again!!!

Ian Whitfield

--
For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted



Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice-Base CPU usage

2011-09-17 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Were you using OpenJdk before?  Could you test-drive the _20 and _22 to see if 
they are as good as the _21?  A few people say that the _20 or _22 are a huge 
improvement on things like the _24 or onwards.  I am trying to convince someone 
to try the _21 but he is happy enough with the _20 and thinks there wont be 
much better than that.

Don't worry if you don't have time!  I am just really glad to hear it works 
well for you :)
Regards from
Tom :)


--- On Sat, 17/9/11, Ian Whitfield whitfi...@telkomsa.net wrote:

From: Ian Whitfield whitfi...@telkomsa.net
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice-Base CPU usage
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Saturday, 17 September, 2011, 8:39



On 17/09/2011 04:03, Don Myers wrote:
 
 This solved my problem totally. 1.6.0_21 works very fast with Base.

After LOTS of problems with Base I also went this way and it works for me too!!!

I can recommend it to everyone using Base Almost perfect again!!!

Ian Whitfield

-- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted


-- 
For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted



Re: [libreoffice-users] Digest Format

2011-09-17 Thread Nuno J. Silva
On 2011-09-13, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote:
 On 09/13/2011 12:57 PM, Michael Reich wrote:
 On 9/12/11 users+h...@global.libreoffice.org wrote:
  Topics (messages 11013 through 11042):

  [libreoffice-users] Re: Should LibreOffice even support Microsoft
  secret formats?
   11013 - Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk
[...]
  [libreoffice-users] Help w Spreadsheet function?
   11014 - JeepNut jeep...@zoho.com

  [libreoffice-users] Re: Should LibreOffice even support Microsoft
  secret formats?
   11016 - Spencer Graves spencer.gra...@prodsyse.com

  [libreoffice-users] Re: Should LibreOffice even support Microsoft
  secret formats?
   11017 - Spencer Graves spencer.gra...@prodsyse.com
[...]
 Now this digest has grouped some messages on a topic together, yet
 others with the same subject are not grouped.  Is the problem the
 way users are posting messages?   It seems like a small thing, but
 it's driving me nuts.

Maybe something is wrong with the headers, or the digest only groups
directly related messages together (maybe B is only grouped with A if it
is a reply to A).

 Email list usually are not thread based, unless your client combines
 emails with the same subject into thread-like groupings.  I think
 Nabble does some threading though, but I do not use Nabble often.

E-mails *are* usually threaded, apart from messages sent with a couple
bad clients.

Even if you've never seen a client threading e-mails, these e-mails
still have the threading information in the headers.

Don't confuse this with subject-based grouping of messages.

-- 
Nuno J. Silva (aka njsg)
gopher://sdf-eu.org/1/users/njsg

-- 
For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted



Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Should LibreOffice even support Microsoft secret formats?

2011-09-17 Thread Nuno J. Silva
On 2011-09-14, Dotan Cohen wrote:

 On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 23:18, Nuno J. Silva nunojsi...@ist.utl.pt wrote:
 Yes, there are deviations. I even remember threads about LibO files
 failing ODF validation.

 But, as LibreOffice is free software, its source is open. So people who
 want to find out how exactly are LibO ODF files generated can check the
 source.


 I see, the old argument that the source code is the standard. I
 thought that this was a technical discussion, not a religious one.
 Sorry, wrong room.

Yeah, because it's totally easier to reverse-engineer and decompile
Microsoft Office than to read the publicly accessible LibreOffice code...

-- 
Nuno J. Silva (aka njsg)
gopher://sdf-eu.org/1/users/njsg

-- 
For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted



Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice-Base CPU usage

2011-09-17 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Java is an unusual problem for LibreOffice.  Most of the apps have either 
already moved away from it or are moving away fast.  Java and OpenJdk are owned 
by Oracle.  Do we have any confidence in
them fixing things so that their products work better for LibreOffice?  
Currently the newer the release of Java the more problems there seems to be in 
using it in LibreOffice.  

I don't think there was a bug-report.  There are almost no devs working on Base 
so posting a bug-report is not likely to yield any positive results for months, 
maybe years.  Also if devs do start working on Base it would be good to follow 
the rest of the project away from java.  Inevitably devs are going to have to 
start by fixing bugs but any work they do to fix problems with java will have 
been a bit of a waste of time after java is written out.  

It's NOT ideal for LO but we have to deal with things as they are rather than 
how we would like them to be.  We can temporarily work-around problems by using 
the _21 (or _20 or _22) and by trying to encourage people to develop Base's 
code.  

The SC wants to sitwait to see if anyone happens to notice that working on 
Base might be a rewarding challenge.  When pushed they thought it might be nice 
to make a questionnaire to send to people who don't need a database program to 
ask them what they want from a database.  
Regards from
Tom :)


--- On Sat, 17/9/11, NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

From: NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice-Base CPU usage
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Saturday, 17 September, 2011, 3:59

On 09/16/2011 07:03 PM, Don Myers wrote:
 
 
 On 09/16/2011 08:31 PM, NoOp wrote:
 On 09/16/2011 11:44 AM, Heinrich Stoellinger wrote:
 Hello again,
 On my Linux/LO 3.4.3 system, after some time of working with Base (ODBC 
 connetcion
 to MySQL), LO uses 90 to 100 p.c. of one of the 4 CPUs of my PC. When I 
 then save
 LO-Base, CPU-usage is normal again (for a while!). I don't really know what 
 causes
 this behaviour, could it have to to with backup copy creation? I find an 
 aweful
 lot of backup files in /home/rainermusik/.libreoffice/3/user/backup.
 All of them have a filename something like rmodbc.odb_9777.odb and are of 
 0 (zero)
 size. I wonder what's wrong.
 Regards
 H. Stoellinger

 And what happens if you turn off auto backup?



   
 Hi All,
 
 Base worked well for me in Windows since it was created while I was 
 running Windows, and for two years in Ubuntu until the Java for Linux 
 was updated from 1.6.0_22 to 1.6.0_24 last spring. At that point Base 
 became almost unusable. In a database with 2500 records, instead of 
 going from the first record to the last record in about 1 second, the 
 time became 25 to 30 seconds. When I looked at CPU usage. 1 core would 
 be running at 100% during this time. Java 1.6.0_26 then came out, and 
 the same problem existed. About 5 weeks ago someone started a thread 
 titled something like Base runs unacceptably slowly. One person left a 
 post stating that in Linux you can have more than one version of Java 
 installed at the same time and left the following instructions:

Please provide a link to your bug reports (for both LO and Java). Thanks.
...


-- 
For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted


-- 
For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted



Re: [libreoffice-users] In Writer, how can I type Indian fonts, such as Sanskrit?

2011-09-17 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
There is some documentation on
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation#Getting_Started_with_LibreOffice
but i am not sure it's really helpful.  Hopefully what you need might be in the 
chapter about fonts?  or the chapter about setting up LibreOffice (Ch2).

Someone who is great at this sort of thing is likely to be on-line in about 6 
hours so you might wake-up tomorrow to find a good answer waiting for you.
Good luck and regards from
Tom :)


--- On Sat, 17/9/11, Winston Yang wins...@cs.wisc.edu wrote:

From: Winston Yang wins...@cs.wisc.edu
Subject: [libreoffice-users] In Writer, how can I type Indian fonts, such as 
Sanskrit?
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Saturday, 17 September, 2011, 6:05

In Writer, how can I type Indian fonts, such as Devanagari/Devanaagarii, for 
Hindi or Sanskrit?

I'm using LibreOffice 3.4.3 on Linux (Trisquel 4.5.1).

I tried going to the following places:

        Trisquel: System  Administration  Language Support

        Writer: Tools  Options  Language Settings  Languages

Thank you.

Winston

-- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted


-- 
For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted



[libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice-Base CPU usage

2011-09-17 Thread Andreas Säger
Since you are not running MySQL through ODBC you can turn off all Java 
support for the entire office suite and simply work with the raw 
database connectivity and input forms.
All the Java wizards are close to useless anyway. You don't need them 
and get much better results faster if you know what you're doing.




Am 16.09.2011 20:44, Heinrich Stoellinger wrote:

Hello again,
On my Linux/LO 3.4.3 system, after some time of working with Base (ODBC
connetcion
to MySQL), LO uses 90 to 100 p.c. of one of the 4 CPUs of my PC. When I
then save
LO-Base, CPU-usage is normal again (for a while!). I don't really know
what causes
this behaviour, could it have to to with backup copy creation? I find an
aweful
lot of backup files in /home/rainermusik/.libreoffice/3/user/backup.
All of them have a filename something like rmodbc.odb_9777.odb and are
of 0 (zero)
size. I wonder what's wrong.
Regards
H. Stoellinger





--
For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted



Re: [libreoffice-users] In Writer, how can I type Indian fonts, such as Sanskrit?

2011-09-17 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
I think you need
Tools - Options - Language Settings 
Near the bottom tick the Enabled for Asian languages and maybe tick the 
Complex Languages (CTL)?

It is good to hear someone using Trisquel.  Debian family (same as Ubuntu, Mint 
etc) but meets the very demanding requirements of the FSF
http://www.fsf.org/
http://www.gnu.org/distros/free-distros.html
http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=trisquel
http://trisquel.info/
Looks good but i guess it needs a bit of experience with GnuLinux before 
trying something  like this?  Have you already used other distros in the same 
family?
Regards from
Tom :)


--- On Sat, 17/9/11, Winston Yang wins...@cs.wisc.edu wrote:
In Writer, how can I type Indian fonts, such as Devanagari/Devanaagarii, for 
Hindi or Sanskrit?

I'm using LibreOffice 3.4.3 on Linux (Trisquel 4.5.1).

I tried going to the following places:

        Trisquel: System  Administration  Language Support

        Writer: Tools  Options  Language Settings  Languages

Thank you.
Winston

-- 
For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted



Fwd: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice-Base CPU usage

2011-09-17 Thread Heinrich Stoellinger

Hello again,
Is there a misunderstanding somewhere? As I said, I use the ODBC-connection
to MySQL on Linux (and a very well working native MySQL-connection under
Windows). Like I posted in another message, ODBC also has problems (such
as not showing default values for columns correctly on data entry, but -
since the database is actually updated correctly - this doesn't really
worry me much.
So, like Tom suggests: can I get completely rid of Java if I don't
conciously use it in any way that an end-user or programmer could cause?
That would be more than alright for me...
Regards
H. Stoellinger (from a lovely early autumn sunny day here in Salzburg)
P.S.: I have used the Java-connector in the past but don't do so anymore.


--- Forwarded message ---
From: Andreas Säger ville...@t-online.de
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice-Base CPU usage
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 11:35:28 +0200

Since you are not running MySQL through ODBC you can turn off all Java
support for the entire office suite and simply work with the raw
database connectivity and input forms.
All the Java wizards are close to useless anyway. You don't need them
and get much better results faster if you know what you're doing.



Am 16.09.2011 20:44, Heinrich Stoellinger wrote:

Hello again,
On my Linux/LO 3.4.3 system, after some time of working with Base (ODBC
connetcion
to MySQL), LO uses 90 to 100 p.c. of one of the 4 CPUs of my PC. When I
then save
LO-Base, CPU-usage is normal again (for a while!). I don't really know
what causes
this behaviour, could it have to to with backup copy creation? I find an
aweful
lot of backup files in /home/rainermusik/.libreoffice/3/user/backup.
All of them have a filename something like rmodbc.odb_9777.odb and are
of 0 (zero)
size. I wonder what's wrong.
Regards
H. Stoellinger




--
Erstellt mit Operas revolutionärem E-Mail-Modul: http://www.opera.com/mail/

--
For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted



Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: docx format troubles

2011-09-17 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker

On 15/09/2011 16:34, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote:


I tell everyone that I deal with that MS does not support those x 
formats the same between their different version of Office.  I know 
people who save their documents in .docx with Office 2010 and it does 
not work completely read by Office 2007.  SO I tell them unless there 
is a dire need to save it in those x formats, use the ones that go 
from Office 97 through 2003.


There's one major problem with that. In Windows 7 (and it may have been 
the case in Vista) the option hide extensions for known file types is 
turned ON by DEFAULT so when the user of Office 2007/2010 creates a 
document, all they see in the title is the name of the document, not the 
extension so they don't even KNOW that the default document types are 
.???x at all.
Plenty of posts in the MS Office forums of the type: I just bought 
Office 2007/2010 and my recipients (i.e. those using 2003 or prior who 
have NOT installed the compatibility pack) can't open documents I send 
them. Why?

I don't quite know how that is got around...


--
For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted



Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice-Base CPU usage

2011-09-17 Thread Don Myers

GREAT! It is a day/night difference!

On 09/17/2011 03:39 AM, Ian Whitfield wrote:



On 17/09/2011 04:03, Don Myers wrote:


This solved my problem totally. 1.6.0_21 works very fast with Base.


After LOTS of problems with Base I also went this way and it works for 
me too!!!


I can recommend it to everyone using Base Almost perfect again!!!

Ian Whitfield



--

*~~*
Don C. Myers
e-PRO Certified by the National Association of Realtors
Manager, Farm and Rural Property Division
*Coldwell Banker University Realty
*126 East Foster Avenue, State College, PA 16801
Phone: 814-237-6543 Fax: 814-237-6502
Visit the Farm and Rural Property Division Website at 
www.cbur-ruralproperty.com http://www.cbur-ruralproperty.com/_

_View Don's farm website: www.myersfarm.com http://www.myersfarm.com/
*~~*


--
For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted



Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice-Base CPU usage

2011-09-17 Thread Don Myers



On 09/16/2011 10:59 PM, NoOp wrote:

On 09/16/2011 07:03 PM, Don Myers wrote:


On 09/16/2011 08:31 PM, NoOp wrote:

On 09/16/2011 11:44 AM, Heinrich Stoellinger wrote:

Hello again,
On my Linux/LO 3.4.3 system, after some time of working with Base (ODBC 
connetcion
to MySQL), LO uses 90 to 100 p.c. of one of the 4 CPUs of my PC. When I then 
save
LO-Base, CPU-usage is normal again (for a while!). I don't really know what 
causes
this behaviour, could it have to to with backup copy creation? I find an aweful
lot of backup files in /home/rainermusik/.libreoffice/3/user/backup.
All of them have a filename something like rmodbc.odb_9777.odb and are of 0 
(zero)
size. I wonder what's wrong.
Regards
H. Stoellinger


And what happens if you turn off auto backup?





Hi All,

Base worked well for me in Windows since it was created while I was
running Windows, and for two years in Ubuntu until the Java for Linux
was updated from 1.6.0_22 to 1.6.0_24 last spring. At that point Base
became almost unusable. In a database with 2500 records, instead of
going from the first record to the last record in about 1 second, the
time became 25 to 30 seconds. When I looked at CPU usage. 1 core would
be running at 100% during this time. Java 1.6.0_26 then came out, and
the same problem existed. About 5 weeks ago someone started a thread
titled something like Base runs unacceptably slowly. One person left a
post stating that in Linux you can have more than one version of Java
installed at the same time and left the following instructions:

Please provide a link to your bug reports (for both LO and Java). Thanks.
...


I think the LibreOfice bug report was closed when the workaround was 
discovered. I think a notice was sent out to that effect. I don't know 
what had been filed with Java. One would have thought when OpenOffice 
and Java were both owned by Oracle that there would have been some 
communication between them. The problems stated before Oracle disposed 
of Open Office.

--

***
*


--
For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted



Re: [libreoffice-users] Does Libre Office have merge codes?

2011-09-17 Thread Cor Nouws

AMCooper63 wrote (17-09-11 05:07)

I am VP of a rocketry club. I'm trying to convert my WordPerfect files to
Libre Office. I've automated a lot of functions with WordPerfect's merge
codes.
[...]
Is there similar functionality in Libre Office?


Yes there is: Mail merge fields.
I guess the documentation (linked as first on this page 
http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/ ) will give the necessary guidance.


Regards,


--
 - Cor
 - http://nl.libreoffice.org


--
For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted



Re: [libreoffice-users] In Writer, how can I type Indian fonts, such as Sanskrit?

2011-09-17 Thread elcico2001 एल्चिको

 Il 17/09/2011 07:05, Winston Yang ha scritto:
In Writer, how can I type Indian fonts, such as 
Devanagari/Devanaagarii, for Hindi or Sanskrit?


I'm using LibreOffice 3.4.3 on Linux (Trisquel 4.5.1).

I tried going to the following places:

Trisquel: System  Administration  Language Support

Writer: Tools  Options  Language Settings  Languages

Thank you.

Winston


Hello Winston,
You can do the following - works for openoffice on debian 6.0, I suppose 
that's the same for libreoffice:


   * download sanskrit font sanskrit2003.ttf (
 http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org/Sanskrit/itranslator2003.htm -
 http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org/Sanskrit/sanskrit2003.zip )
   * copy sanskrit2003.ttf to /usr/share/fonts/truetype (that should be
 the right path, but I'm not sure on your distro)
   * supposing you have Gnome (if you use KDE let me know), go to
 System -- Preferences -- Keyboard  and choose the tab
 Disposition (that should be the english name)
   * click add, choose By Nation, select India, click add
 again, then close the keyboard preferences window
   * if it doesn't appear by itself, add a keyboard indicator on the
 Gnome menu panel -- right clic on the panel, click add to panel
 and select Keyboard indicator
   * once you have the keyboard indicator on your panel, select indian
 layout, then open libreoffice writer
   * if the keyboard layout has changed... go back to indian again
   * select sanskrit 2003 font
   * and finally... write in sanskrit! :)

Namastè! or I'd better write... नमस्ते  :)

--
cico

Icq/Licq/Gaim #175451007
Debian Powered Linux Registered User #310800 athttp://counter.li.org
No retreat baby no surrender
http://www.retenergie.it  - coop di produttori e utilizzatori di energia da 
fonti rinnovabili
tad evaarthamaatra-nirbhaasaM svaruupa-shuunyam iva samaadhiH
Sanskrit - Realize it's the common language ;-)


--
For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted


Re: [libreoffice-users] In Writer, how can I type Indian fonts, such as Sanskrit?

2011-09-17 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions


Have you installed the language packs for your various Indian 
languages?  If not, you will need to go online to the download page of 
http://www.libreoffice.org/download/  and download and install the 
languages you want to use.


I assume that you have Indian fonts installed on your computer.

CTL has many options, and some of them look like they might be Indian 
dialects.



http://www.libreoffice.org/download/
On 09/17/2011 05:50 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
I think you need
Tools - Options - Language Settings
Near the bottom tick the Enabled for Asian languages and maybe tick the Complex 
Languages (CTL)?

It is good to hear someone using Trisquel.  Debian family (same as Ubuntu, Mint 
etc) but meets the very demanding requirements of the FSF
http://www.fsf.org/
http://www.gnu.org/distros/free-distros.html
http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=trisquel
http://trisquel.info/
Looks good but i guess it needs a bit of experience with GnuLinux before 
trying something  like this?  Have you already used other distros in the same 
family?
Regards from
Tom :)


--- On Sat, 17/9/11, Winston Yangwins...@cs.wisc.edu  wrote:
In Writer, how can I type Indian fonts, such as Devanagari/Devanaagarii, for 
Hindi or Sanskrit?

I'm using LibreOffice 3.4.3 on Linux (Trisquel 4.5.1).

I tried going to the following places:

 Trisquel: System  Administration  Language Support

 Writer: Tools  Options  Language Settings  Languages

Thank you.
Winston




--
For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted



Re: Fwd: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice-Base CPU usage

2011-09-17 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
I think you can completely un-install all instances of java but i think that 
might create problems.  Your web-browser might not be very happy without java.  
Generally i try to keep escape routes and back-up plans available = so i would 
just switch off java in LO so that i could switch it on again quite easily if i 
needed it.

Tools - Options - LibreOffice/General - Java
then UNtick the box at the very top Use a java runtime environment.  I have 
only unticked this a few days ago and LO seems to start-up a lot faster.
Regards from
Tom :)

--- On Sat, 17/9/11, Heinrich Stoellinger hc.stoellin...@aon.at wrote:

From: Heinrich Stoellinger hc.stoellin...@aon.at
Subject: Fwd: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice-Base CPU usage
To: users@global.libreoffice.org users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Saturday, 17 September, 2011, 11:55

Hello again,
Is there a misunderstanding somewhere? As I said, I use the ODBC-connection
to MySQL on Linux (and a very well working native MySQL-connection under
Windows). Like I posted in another message, ODBC also has problems (such
as not showing default values for columns correctly on data entry, but -
since the database is actually updated correctly - this doesn't really
worry me much.
So, like Tom suggests: can I get completely rid of Java if I don't
conciously use it in any way that an end-user or programmer could cause?
That would be more than alright for me...
Regards
H. Stoellinger (from a lovely early autumn sunny day here in Salzburg)
P.S.: I have used the Java-connector in the past but don't do so anymore.


--- Forwarded message ---
From: Andreas Säger ville...@t-online.de
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice-Base CPU usage
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 11:35:28 +0200

Since you are not running MySQL through ODBC you can turn off all Java
support for the entire office suite and simply work with the raw
database connectivity and input forms.
All the Java wizards are close to useless anyway. You don't need them
and get much better results faster if you know what you're doing.



Am 16.09.2011 20:44, Heinrich Stoellinger wrote:
 Hello again,
 On my Linux/LO 3.4.3 system, after some time of working with Base (ODBC
 connetcion
 to MySQL), LO uses 90 to 100 p.c. of one of the 4 CPUs of my PC. When I
 then save
 LO-Base, CPU-usage is normal again (for a while!). I don't really know
 what causes
 this behaviour, could it have to to with backup copy creation? I find an
 aweful
 lot of backup files in /home/rainermusik/.libreoffice/3/user/backup.
 All of them have a filename something like rmodbc.odb_9777.odb and are
 of 0 (zero)
 size. I wonder what's wrong.
 Regards
 H. Stoellinger
 


--Erstellt mit Operas revolutionärem E-Mail-Modul: http://www.opera.com/mail/

--For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted


-- 
For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted



Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: docx format troubles

2011-09-17 Thread David B Teague sr

On 9/16/2011 6:56 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

If you were able to ring-fence about 20% of the features of MS Office then 
about 80% of users never stray outside that.  From what i see it's more like 
about 100% of users.  Most users don't even use all of that 20%.
I hope this isn't hijacking the thread, and if so, /please /say so, and 
I'll repost this in a new thread.


The fact that 20% of the features of MS Office (and by implication, LO 
and OO.o) used almost exclusively by some 80% of the users suggests to 
me that OO.o should identify that 20% of features and modularize OO.o or 
LO or what have you to include that 20% and make the other 80% of the 
features available as extensions.


I'd like comments on this idea.

David Teague

--
nil significat nisi oscillat


--
For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted



Re: [libreoffice-users] In Writer, how can I type Indian fonts, such as Sanskrit?

2011-09-17 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
You can find the right path by looking in 
Tools - Options - LibreOffice/General - Paths
There 'should' be a line for fonts in there.
Regards from
Tom :)

--- On Sat, 17/9/11, elcico2001 एल्चिको elcico2...@yahoo.it wrote:

From: elcico2001 एल्चिको elcico2...@yahoo.it
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] In Writer, how can I type Indian fonts, such 
as Sanskrit?
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Cc: wins...@cs.wisc.edu
Date: Saturday, 17 September, 2011, 13:21

 Il 17/09/2011 07:05, Winston Yang ha scritto:
 In Writer, how can I type Indian fonts, such as Devanagari/Devanaagarii, for 
 Hindi or Sanskrit?
 
 I'm using LibreOffice 3.4.3 on Linux (Trisquel 4.5.1).
 
 I tried going to the following places:
 
         Trisquel: System  Administration  Language Support
 
         Writer: Tools  Options  Language Settings  Languages
 
 Thank you.
 
 Winston
 
Hello Winston,
You can do the following - works for openoffice on debian 6.0, I suppose that's 
the same for libreoffice:

   * download sanskrit font sanskrit2003.ttf (
     http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org/Sanskrit/itranslator2003.htm -
     http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org/Sanskrit/sanskrit2003.zip )
   * copy sanskrit2003.ttf to /usr/share/fonts/truetype (that should be
     the right path, but I'm not sure on your distro)
   * supposing you have Gnome (if you use KDE let me know), go to
     System -- Preferences -- Keyboard  and choose the tab
     Disposition (that should be the english name)
   * click add, choose By Nation, select India, click add
     again, then close the keyboard preferences window
   * if it doesn't appear by itself, add a keyboard indicator on the
     Gnome menu panel -- right clic on the panel, click add to panel
     and select Keyboard indicator
   * once you have the keyboard indicator on your panel, select indian
     layout, then open libreoffice writer
   * if the keyboard layout has changed... go back to indian again
   * select sanskrit 2003 font
   * and finally... write in sanskrit! :)

Namastè! or I'd better write... नमस्ते  :)

-- cico

Icq/Licq/Gaim #175451007
Debian Powered Linux Registered User #310800 athttp://counter.li.org
No retreat baby no surrender
http://www.retenergie.it  - coop di produttori e utilizzatori di energia da 
fonti rinnovabili
tad evaarthamaatra-nirbhaasaM svaruupa-shuunyam iva samaadhiH
Sanskrit - Realize it's the common language ;-)


-- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted

-- 
For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted


Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: docx format troubles

2011-09-17 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
I really like that idea a lot but i have been told it's unfeasable.  Even if we 
could clearly identify that 20% it would be tricky to slim the apps down that 
way. 
Regards from
Tom :)


--- On Sat, 17/9/11, David B Teague sr davidbtea...@comporium.net wrote:

From: David B Teague sr davidbtea...@comporium.net
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: docx format troubles
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Saturday, 17 September, 2011, 13:30

On 9/16/2011 6:56 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
 If you were able to ring-fence about 20% of the features of MS Office then 
 about 80% of users never stray outside that.  From what i see it's more like 
 about 100% of users.  Most users don't even use all of that 20%.
I hope this isn't hijacking the thread, and if so, /please /say so, and I'll 
repost this in a new thread.

The fact that 20% of the features of MS Office (and by implication, LO and 
OO.o) used almost exclusively by some 80% of the users suggests to me that OO.o 
should identify that 20% of features and modularize OO.o or LO or what have you 
to include that 20% and make the other 80% of the features available as 
extensions.

I'd like comments on this idea.

David Teague

-- nil significat nisi oscillat


-- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted


-- 
For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted



Re: [libreoffice-users] In Writer, how can I type Indian fonts, such as Sanskrit?

2011-09-17 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions

On 09/17/2011 08:21 AM, elcico2001 एल्चिको wrote:

 Il 17/09/2011 07:05, Winston Yang ha scritto:
In Writer, how can I type Indian fonts, such as 
Devanagari/Devanaagarii, for Hindi or Sanskrit?


I'm using LibreOffice 3.4.3 on Linux (Trisquel 4.5.1).

I tried going to the following places:

Trisquel: System  Administration  Language Support

Writer: Tools  Options  Language Settings  Languages

Thank you.

Winston


Hello Winston,
You can do the following - works for openoffice on debian 6.0, I 
suppose that's the same for libreoffice:


   * download sanskrit font sanskrit2003.ttf (
 http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org/Sanskrit/itranslator2003.htm -
 http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org/Sanskrit/sanskrit2003.zip )
   * copy sanskrit2003.ttf to /usr/share/fonts/truetype (that should be
 the right path, but I'm not sure on your distro)
I just click on the font and a font preview window pops up with an 
Install Button
I use Ubuntu [Debian], and that is how I install fonts.  All my fonts 
appear in a .font hidden folder.  So if they need to go into the folder 
you listed, the need to go into the hidden one as well.


There is a font named Devnagri.  I have seen over 200 versions of that font.




   * supposing you have Gnome (if you use KDE let me know), go to
 System -- Preferences -- Keyboard  and choose the tab
 Disposition (that should be the english name)
   * click add, choose By Nation, select India, click add
 again, then close the keyboard preferences window
   * if it doesn't appear by itself, add a keyboard indicator on the
 Gnome menu panel -- right clic on the panel, click add to panel
 and select Keyboard indicator
   * once you have the keyboard indicator on your panel, select indian
 layout, then open libreoffice writer
   * if the keyboard layout has changed... go back to indian again
   * select sanskrit 2003 font
   * and finally... write in sanskrit! :)

Namastè! or I'd better write... नमस्ते  :)




--
For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted


Re: [libreoffice-users] In Writer, how can I type Indian fonts, such as Sanskrit?

2011-09-17 Thread soumalya ray
dont know about 'trisquel'.for ubuntu lucid,i went to
systempreferencelanguage
choose bengali(as its my native language).keyboard shortcut appear in the
panel(previous to lucid,you need to add this separately).
anyway when i need to type,i just clicked on it and bengali gets
activated.its system wide-works in firefox,chromiun,LO.you need not to
install any separate language pack for it to work.just the font.since
sanskrit uses devnagari script (also used by hindi),so that should not be a
problem.
but as i've said this is for ubuntu lucid;dont know about trisquel
regards,


On 17 September 2011 18:10, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions 
webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote:

 On 09/17/2011 08:21 AM, elcico2001 एल्चिको wrote:

  Il 17/09/2011 07:05, Winston Yang ha scritto:

 In Writer, how can I type Indian fonts, such as Devanagari/Devanaagarii,
 for Hindi or Sanskrit?

 I'm using LibreOffice 3.4.3 on Linux (Trisquel 4.5.1).

 I tried going to the following places:

Trisquel: System  Administration  Language Support

Writer: Tools  Options  Language Settings  Languages

 Thank you.

 Winston

  Hello Winston,
 You can do the following - works for openoffice on debian 6.0, I suppose
 that's the same for libreoffice:

   * download sanskrit font sanskrit2003.ttf (
 
 http://www.omkarananda-ashram.**org/Sanskrit/itranslator2003.**htmhttp://www.omkarananda-ashram.org/Sanskrit/itranslator2003.htm-
 
 http://www.omkarananda-ashram.**org/Sanskrit/sanskrit2003.ziphttp://www.omkarananda-ashram.org/Sanskrit/sanskrit2003.zip)
   * copy sanskrit2003.ttf to /usr/share/fonts/truetype (that should be
 the right path, but I'm not sure on your distro)

 I just click on the font and a font preview window pops up with an Install
 Button
 I use Ubuntu [Debian], and that is how I install fonts.  All my fonts
 appear in a .font hidden folder.  So if they need to go into the folder you
 listed, the need to go into the hidden one as well.

 There is a font named Devnagri.  I have seen over 200 versions of that
 font.




* supposing you have Gnome (if you use KDE let me know), go to
 System -- Preferences -- Keyboard  and choose the tab
 Disposition (that should be the english name)
   * click add, choose By Nation, select India, click add
 again, then close the keyboard preferences window
   * if it doesn't appear by itself, add a keyboard indicator on the
 Gnome menu panel -- right clic on the panel, click add to panel
 and select Keyboard indicator
   * once you have the keyboard indicator on your panel, select indian
 layout, then open libreoffice writer
   * if the keyboard layout has changed... go back to indian again
   * select sanskrit 2003 font
   * and finally... write in sanskrit! :)

 Namastè! or I'd better write... नमस्ते  :)



 --
 For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+help@global.libreoffice.**
 org users%2bh...@global.libreoffice.org
 Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/**get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-**
 unsubscribe/http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
 Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.**documentfoundation.org/**
 Netiquette http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
 List archive: 
 http://listarchives.**libreoffice.org/global/users/http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/
 All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be
 deleted




-- 
Dr soumalya ray http://drsoumalya.blogspot.com  drsouma...@gmail.com
MBBS,MD(PGT-C.Medicine),Ex-HousePhysician(Medicine)
Skype: som3776 | Twitter: @docbkp http://twitter.com/docbkp

-- 
For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted


Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: docx format troubles

2011-09-17 Thread soumalya ray
its better to have it and dont need it than to need it and dont have it
thats my line of thinking

On 17 September 2011 18:10, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

 Hi :)
 I really like that idea a lot but i have been told it's unfeasable.  Even
 if we could clearly identify that 20% it would be tricky to slim the apps
 down that way.
 Regards from
 Tom :)


 --- On Sat, 17/9/11, David B Teague sr davidbtea...@comporium.net wrote:

 From: David B Teague sr davidbtea...@comporium.net
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: docx format troubles
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Date: Saturday, 17 September, 2011, 13:30

 On 9/16/2011 6:56 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
  If you were able to ring-fence about 20% of the features of MS Office
 then about 80% of users never stray outside that.  From what i see it's more
 like about 100% of users.  Most users don't even use all of that 20%.
 I hope this isn't hijacking the thread, and if so, /please /say so, and
 I'll repost this in a new thread.

 The fact that 20% of the features of MS Office (and by implication, LO and
 OO.o) used almost exclusively by some 80% of the users suggests to me that
 OO.o should identify that 20% of features and modularize OO.o or LO or what
 have you to include that 20% and make the other 80% of the features
 available as extensions.

 I'd like comments on this idea.

 David Teague

 -- nil significat nisi oscillat


 -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to:
 users+h...@global.libreoffice.org
 Problems?
 http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
 Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
 List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/
 All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be
 deleted


 --
 For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org
 Problems?
 http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
 Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
 List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/
 All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be
 deleted




-- 
Dr soumalya ray http://drsoumalya.blogspot.com  drsouma...@gmail.com
MBBS,MD(PGT-C.Medicine),Ex-HousePhysician(Medicine)
Skype: som3776 | Twitter: @docbkp http://twitter.com/docbkp

-- 
For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted


Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: docx format troubles

2011-09-17 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
+1
Mostly.  A little slimming for low-spec machines such as hand-helds, netbooks 
and stuff might be good but too much would be annoying.  There is always 
google-docs or AbiWord and stuff for low-spec machines anyway :)
Regards from
Tom :)


--- On Sat, 17/9/11, soumalya ray drsouma...@gmail.com wrote:

From: soumalya ray drsouma...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: docx format troubles
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Saturday, 17 September, 2011, 14:03

its better to have it and dont need it than to need it and dont have it
thats my line of thinking

On 17 September 2011 18:10, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

 Hi :)
 I really like that idea a lot but i have been told it's unfeasable.  Even
 if we could clearly identify that 20% it would be tricky to slim the apps
 down that way.
 Regards from
 Tom :)


 --- On Sat, 17/9/11, David B Teague sr davidbtea...@comporium.net wrote:

 From: David B Teague sr davidbtea...@comporium.net
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: docx format troubles
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Date: Saturday, 17 September, 2011, 13:30

 On 9/16/2011 6:56 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
  If you were able to ring-fence about 20% of the features of MS Office
 then about 80% of users never stray outside that.  From what i see it's more
 like about 100% of users.  Most users don't even use all of that 20%.
 I hope this isn't hijacking the thread, and if so, /please /say so, and
 I'll repost this in a new thread.

 The fact that 20% of the features of MS Office (and by implication, LO and
 OO.o) used almost exclusively by some 80% of the users suggests to me that
 OO.o should identify that 20% of features and modularize OO.o or LO or what
 have you to include that 20% and make the other 80% of the features
 available as extensions.

 I'd like comments on this idea.

 David Teague

 -- nil significat nisi oscillat


 -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to:
 users+h...@global.libreoffice.org
 Problems?
 http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
 Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
 List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/
 All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be
 deleted


 --
 For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org
 Problems?
 http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
 Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
 List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/
 All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be
 deleted




-- 
Dr soumalya ray http://drsoumalya.blogspot.com  drsouma...@gmail.com
MBBS,MD(PGT-C.Medicine),Ex-HousePhysician(Medicine)
Skype: som3776 | Twitter: @docbkp http://twitter.com/docbkp

-- 
For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted

-- 
For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted



Re: [libreoffice-users] In Writer, how can I type Indian fonts, such as Sanskrit?

2011-09-17 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Same family so it's probably exactly the same
Regards from
Tom :)


--- On Sat, 17/9/11, soumalya ray drsouma...@gmail.com wrote:

From: soumalya ray drsouma...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] In Writer, how can I type Indian fonts, such 
as Sanskrit?
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Saturday, 17 September, 2011, 13:54

dont know about 'trisquel'.for ubuntu lucid,i went to
systempreferencelanguage
choose bengali(as its my native language).keyboard shortcut appear in the
panel(previous to lucid,you need to add this separately).
anyway when i need to type,i just clicked on it and bengali gets
activated.its system wide-works in firefox,chromiun,LO.you need not to
install any separate language pack for it to work.just the font.since
sanskrit uses devnagari script (also used by hindi),so that should not be a
problem.
but as i've said this is for ubuntu lucid;dont know about trisquel
regards,


On 17 September 2011 18:10, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions 
webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote:

 On 09/17/2011 08:21 AM, elcico2001 एल्चिको wrote:

  Il 17/09/2011 07:05, Winston Yang ha scritto:

 In Writer, how can I type Indian fonts, such as Devanagari/Devanaagarii,
 for Hindi or Sanskrit?

 I'm using LibreOffice 3.4.3 on Linux (Trisquel 4.5.1).

 I tried going to the following places:

        Trisquel: System  Administration  Language Support

        Writer: Tools  Options  Language Settings  Languages

 Thank you.

 Winston

  Hello Winston,
 You can do the following - works for openoffice on debian 6.0, I suppose
 that's the same for libreoffice:

   * download sanskrit font sanskrit2003.ttf (
     
http://www.omkarananda-ashram.**org/Sanskrit/itranslator2003.**htmhttp://www.omkarananda-ashram.org/Sanskrit/itranslator2003.htm-
     
http://www.omkarananda-ashram.**org/Sanskrit/sanskrit2003.ziphttp://www.omkarananda-ashram.org/Sanskrit/sanskrit2003.zip)
   * copy sanskrit2003.ttf to /usr/share/fonts/truetype (that should be
     the right path, but I'm not sure on your distro)

 I just click on the font and a font preview window pops up with an Install
 Button
 I use Ubuntu [Debian], and that is how I install fonts.  All my fonts
 appear in a .font hidden folder.  So if they need to go into the folder you
 listed, the need to go into the hidden one as well.

 There is a font named Devnagri.  I have seen over 200 versions of that
 font.




    * supposing you have Gnome (if you use KDE let me know), go to
     System -- Preferences -- Keyboard  and choose the tab
     Disposition (that should be the english name)
   * click add, choose By Nation, select India, click add
     again, then close the keyboard preferences window
   * if it doesn't appear by itself, add a keyboard indicator on the
     Gnome menu panel -- right clic on the panel, click add to panel
     and select Keyboard indicator
   * once you have the keyboard indicator on your panel, select indian
     layout, then open libreoffice writer
   * if the keyboard layout has changed... go back to indian again
   * select sanskrit 2003 font
   * and finally... write in sanskrit! :)

 Namastè! or I'd better write... नमस्ते  :)



 --
 For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+help@global.libreoffice.**
 org users%2bh...@global.libreoffice.org
 Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/**get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-**
 unsubscribe/http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
 Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.**documentfoundation.org/**
 Netiquette http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
 List archive: 
 http://listarchives.**libreoffice.org/global/users/http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/
 All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be
 deleted




-- 
Dr soumalya ray http://drsoumalya.blogspot.com  drsouma...@gmail.com
MBBS,MD(PGT-C.Medicine),Ex-HousePhysician(Medicine)
Skype: som3776 | Twitter: @docbkp http://twitter.com/docbkp

-- 
For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted

-- 
For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted


Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: docx format troubles

2011-09-17 Thread soumalya ray
Abiword is a real good alternative.

On 17 September 2011 18:55, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

 Hi :)
 +1
 Mostly.  A little slimming for low-spec machines such as hand-helds,
 netbooks and stuff might be good but too much would be annoying.  There is
 always google-docs or AbiWord and stuff for low-spec machines anyway :)
 Regards from
 Tom :)


 --- On Sat, 17/9/11, soumalya ray drsouma...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: soumalya ray drsouma...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: docx format troubles
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Date: Saturday, 17 September, 2011, 14:03

 its better to have it and dont need it than to need it and dont have it
 thats my line of thinking

 On 17 September 2011 18:10, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

  Hi :)
  I really like that idea a lot but i have been told it's unfeasable.  Even
  if we could clearly identify that 20% it would be tricky to slim the apps
  down that way.
  Regards from
  Tom :)
 
 
  --- On Sat, 17/9/11, David B Teague sr davidbtea...@comporium.net
 wrote:
 
  From: David B Teague sr davidbtea...@comporium.net
  Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: docx format troubles
  To: users@global.libreoffice.org
  Date: Saturday, 17 September, 2011, 13:30
 
  On 9/16/2011 6:56 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
   If you were able to ring-fence about 20% of the features of MS Office
  then about 80% of users never stray outside that.  From what i see it's
 more
  like about 100% of users.  Most users don't even use all of that 20%.
  I hope this isn't hijacking the thread, and if so, /please /say so, and
  I'll repost this in a new thread.
 
  The fact that 20% of the features of MS Office (and by implication, LO
 and
  OO.o) used almost exclusively by some 80% of the users suggests to me
 that
  OO.o should identify that 20% of features and modularize OO.o or LO or
 what
  have you to include that 20% and make the other 80% of the features
  available as extensions.
 
  I'd like comments on this idea.
 
  David Teague
 
  -- nil significat nisi oscillat
 
 
  -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to:
  users+h...@global.libreoffice.org
  Problems?
  http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
  Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
  List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/
  All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be
  deleted
 
 
  --
  For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to:
 users+h...@global.libreoffice.org
  Problems?
  http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
  Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
  List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/
  All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be
  deleted
 
 


 --
 Dr soumalya ray http://drsoumalya.blogspot.com  drsouma...@gmail.com
 MBBS,MD(PGT-C.Medicine),Ex-HousePhysician(Medicine)
 Skype: som3776 | Twitter: @docbkp http://twitter.com/docbkp

 --
 For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org
 Problems?
 http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
 Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
 List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/
 All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be
 deleted

 --
 For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org
 Problems?
 http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
 Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
 List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/
 All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be
 deleted




-- 
Dr soumalya ray http://drsoumalya.blogspot.com  drsouma...@gmail.com
MBBS,MD(PGT-C.Medicine),Ex-HousePhysician(Medicine)
Skype: som3776 | Twitter: @docbkp http://twitter.com/docbkp

-- 
For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted


Fwd: Re: Fwd: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice-Base CPU usage

2011-09-17 Thread Heinrich Stoellinger

Hello Tom,
Thanks for your suggestion. I unticked the box at the very top Use a java runtime 
environment
and LO still works fine. It also starts up very fast.
As I need Java for purposes outside of LO, I will keep it for the time being.
Regards
Heinrich

--- Forwarded message ---
From: Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: Fwd: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice-Base CPU usage
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 14:29:10 +0200

Hi :)
I think you can completely un-install all instances of java but i think that 
might create problems.  Your web-browser might not be very happy without java.  
Generally i try to keep escape routes and back-up plans available = so i would 
just switch off java in LO so that i could switch it on again quite easily if i 
needed it.

Tools - Options - LibreOffice/General - Java
then UNtick the box at the very top Use a java runtime environment.  I have 
only unticked this a few days ago and LO seems to start-up a lot faster.
Regards from
Tom :)

--- On Sat, 17/9/11, Heinrich Stoellinger hc.stoellin...@aon.at wrote:

From: Heinrich Stoellinger hc.stoellin...@aon.at
Subject: Fwd: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice-Base CPU usage
To: users@global.libreoffice.org users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Saturday, 17 September, 2011, 11:55

Hello again,
Is there a misunderstanding somewhere? As I said, I use the ODBC-connection
to MySQL on Linux (and a very well working native MySQL-connection under
Windows). Like I posted in another message, ODBC also has problems (such
as not showing default values for columns correctly on data entry, but -
since the database is actually updated correctly - this doesn't really
worry me much.
So, like Tom suggests: can I get completely rid of Java if I don't
conciously use it in any way that an end-user or programmer could cause?
That would be more than alright for me...
Regards
H. Stoellinger (from a lovely early autumn sunny day here in Salzburg)
P.S.: I have used the Java-connector in the past but don't do so anymore.


--- Forwarded message ---
From: Andreas Säger ville...@t-online.de
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice-Base CPU usage
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 11:35:28 +0200

Since you are not running MySQL through ODBC you can turn off all Java
support for the entire office suite and simply work with the raw
database connectivity and input forms.
All the Java wizards are close to useless anyway. You don't need them
and get much better results faster if you know what you're doing.



Am 16.09.2011 20:44, Heinrich Stoellinger wrote:

Hello again,
On my Linux/LO 3.4.3 system, after some time of working with Base (ODBC
connetcion
to MySQL), LO uses 90 to 100 p.c. of one of the 4 CPUs of my PC. When I
then save
LO-Base, CPU-usage is normal again (for a while!). I don't really know
what causes
this behaviour, could it have to to with backup copy creation? I find an
aweful
lot of backup files in /home/rainermusik/.libreoffice/3/user/backup.
All of them have a filename something like rmodbc.odb_9777.odb and are
of 0 (zero)
size. I wonder what's wrong.
Regards
H. Stoellinger




--Erstellt mit Operas revolutionärem E-Mail-Modul: http://www.opera.com/mail/

--For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted


--
Erstellt mit Operas revolutionärem E-Mail-Modul: http://www.opera.com/mail/

--
For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted



Re: [libreoffice-users] In Writer, how can I type Indian fonts, such as Sanskrit?

2011-09-17 Thread elcico2001 एल्चिको

Il 17/09/2011 14:40, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions ha scritto:
I just click on the font and a font preview window pops up with an 
Install Button
I use Ubuntu [Debian], and that is how I install fonts.  All my fonts 
appear in a .font hidden folder.  So if they need to go into the 
folder you listed, the need to go into the hidden one as well.


There is a font named Devnagri.  I have seen over 200 versions of that 
font.


ops! same on Debian too! I copied instructions an old manual and forgot 
the new way to install fonts... forgive me! :)


--
cico

Icq/Licq/Gaim #175451007
Debian Powered Linux Registered User #310800 at http://counter.li.org
No retreat baby no surrender
http://www.retenergie.it - coop di produttori e utilizzatori di energia da 
fonti rinnovabili
tad evaarthamaatra-nirbhaasaM svaruupa-shuunyam iva samaadhiH
Sanskrit - Realize it's the common language ;-)


--
For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted


[libreoffice-users] Re: LO Base 3.4.3 on Linux using ODBC

2011-09-17 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Le 16/09/11 20:44, Heinrich Stoellinger a écrit :

Hi Heinrich,

 When I enter data into a table where some columns have a default value
 defined
 (i.e., I do NOT actually enter ANYTHING into such colums but rely on the
 default value) this default value is actually entered correctly into the
 table.
 However, the default value is not shown on completion of data entry.
 Only when selecting
 the tuple afterwards do I see that everything is o.k.
 This only happens on my Linux system. LO 3.3.4.1 Base on MS-Vista with
 the native
 MySQL-Connector does everything correctly.

The native connector and the ODBC have limitations which are different
(I don't remember where originally they were listed, but they were,
probably when the native connector first came out or was in development).

Additionally, there is a lot of buggy behaviour in current ODBC
implementation with mysql from within OOo/LibO. One of the problems I
remember with the ODBC connector is that OOo was unable to completely
ask for all of the functionality supported by the driver, and even then,
sometimes the driver incorrectly reported back to OOo what it was
capable of handling. So there are several possible causes :

- new bug introduced with the OOo 3.4.x branch and taken over into the
LibO code ;
- bug in the ODBC driver itself;
- new bug just in the LibO code that affects ODBC connections.

Having had problems myself with a proprietary ODBC connector on Mac, and
accessing a mysql db via OOo/LibO, I tend to favour the first of the
three possibilities I listed.

I would report it as a bug and add it to the increasingly long list.

Alex



-- 
For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted



Re: [libreoffice-users] In Writer, how can I type Indian fonts, such as Sanskrit?

2011-09-17 Thread Winston Yang

Thank you for your replies.

I followed the messages below from elcico2001 and webmaster for Kracked 
Press Productions about installing Sanskrit 2003 and changing preferences.


Trisquel 4.5.1 is a little different from what elcico2001 
wrote---instead of a Disposition tab, there is a Layouts tab. I went 
to the following places:


System
 Preferences
 Keyboard
 Layouts (tab)
 Add (button)
 By language (tab)
 Language (drop-down list)
 Hindi.

On the GNOME panel at the bottom of my desktop, there are two keyboard 
icons, one with an earth (Keyboard preferences), and one without 
(IBus input method framework).


Right-clicking the icon without an earth gives a menu with radio buttons 
for USA and India Hindi Bolnagri.


When I chose India Hindi Bolnagri, I was able to type Devanaagarii 
(Hindi, Sanskrit) in Writer.


@soumalya ray,
@Tom Davies:

Trisquel 4.5.1 has System  Preferences, but no Language.

Winston


On 09/17/2011 09:27 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
Same family so it's probably exactly the same
Regards from
Tom :)


--- On Sat, 17/9/11, soumalya raydrsouma...@gmail.com  wrote:

From: soumalya raydrsouma...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] In Writer, how can I type Indian fonts, such 
as Sanskrit?
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Saturday, 17 September, 2011, 13:54

dont know about 'trisquel'.for ubuntu lucid,i went to
systempreferencelanguage
choose bengali(as its my native language).keyboard shortcut appear in the
panel(previous to lucid,you need to add this separately).
anyway when i need to type,i just clicked on it and bengali gets
activated.its system wide-works in firefox,chromiun,LO.you need not to
install any separate language pack for it to work.just the font.since
sanskrit uses devnagari script (also used by hindi),so that should not be a
problem.
but as i've said this is for ubuntu lucid;dont know about trisquel
regards,


On 17 September 2011 18:10, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions
webmas...@krackedpress.com  wrote:


On 09/17/2011 08:21 AM, elcico2001 एल्चिको wrote:


   Il 17/09/2011 07:05, Winston Yang ha scritto:


In Writer, how can I type Indian fonts, such as Devanagari/Devanaagarii,
for Hindi or Sanskrit?

I'm using LibreOffice 3.4.3 on Linux (Trisquel 4.5.1).

I tried going to the following places:

 Trisquel: System  Administration  Language Support

 Writer: Tools  Options  Language Settings  Languages

Thank you.

Winston

   Hello Winston,

You can do the following - works for openoffice on debian 6.0, I suppose
that's the same for libreoffice:

* download sanskrit font sanskrit2003.ttf (
  
http://www.omkarananda-ashram.**org/Sanskrit/itranslator2003.**htmhttp://www.omkarananda-ashram.org/Sanskrit/itranslator2003.htm-
  
http://www.omkarananda-ashram.**org/Sanskrit/sanskrit2003.ziphttp://www.omkarananda-ashram.org/Sanskrit/sanskrit2003.zip)
* copy sanskrit2003.ttf to /usr/share/fonts/truetype (that should be
  the right path, but I'm not sure on your distro)


I just click on the font and a font preview window pops up with an Install
Button
I use Ubuntu [Debian], and that is how I install fonts.  All my fonts
appear in a .font hidden folder.  So if they need to go into the folder you
listed, the need to go into the hidden one as well.

There is a font named Devnagri.  I have seen over 200 versions of that
font.




 * supposing you have Gnome (if you use KDE let me know), go to

  System --  Preferences --  Keyboard  and choose the tab
  Disposition (that should be the english name)
* click add, choose By Nation, select India, click add
  again, then close the keyboard preferences window
* if it doesn't appear by itself, add a keyboard indicator on the
  Gnome menu panel --  right clic on the panel, click add to panel
  and select Keyboard indicator
* once you have the keyboard indicator on your panel, select indian
  layout, then open libreoffice writer
* if the keyboard layout has changed... go back to indian again
* select sanskrit 2003 font
* and finally... write in sanskrit! :)

Namastè! or I'd better write... नमस्ते  :)



--
For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+help@global.libreoffice.**
orgusers%2bh...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/**get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-**
unsubscribe/http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.**documentfoundation.org/**
Netiquettehttp://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: 
http://listarchives.**libreoffice.org/global/users/http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be
deleted







--
For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: 

Re: [libreoffice-users] In Writer, how can I type Indian fonts, such as Sanskrit?

2011-09-17 Thread Winston Yang

Tom,

Regarding distros, besides Trisquel 4.5.1, I've used or tried the 
following distros:


--- Ubuntu 10.10
--- Ubuntu 11.04
--- Linux Mint
--- gNewSense, a fully-free distro
--- RedHat

I may have also used Ubuntu 10.04.

Winston


On 09/17/2011 05:50 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
I think you need
Tools - Options - Language Settings
Near the bottom tick the Enabled for Asian languages and maybe tick the Complex 
Languages (CTL)?

It is good to hear someone using Trisquel.  Debian family (same as Ubuntu, Mint 
etc) but meets the very demanding requirements of the FSF
http://www.fsf.org/
http://www.gnu.org/distros/free-distros.html
http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=trisquel
http://trisquel.info/
Looks good but i guess it needs a bit of experience with GnuLinux before 
trying something  like this?  Have you already used other distros in the same 
family?
Regards from
Tom :)


--- On Sat, 17/9/11, Winston Yangwins...@cs.wisc.edu  wrote:
In Writer, how can I type Indian fonts, such as Devanagari/Devanaagarii, for 
Hindi or Sanskrit?

I'm using LibreOffice 3.4.3 on Linux (Trisquel 4.5.1).

I tried going to the following places:

 Trisquel: System  Administration  Language Support

 Writer: Tools  Options  Language Settings  Languages

Thank you.
Winston




--
For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted



Re: [libreoffice-users] In Writer, how can I type Indian fonts, such as Sanskrit?

2011-09-17 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
In System - Preferences is there a Regionalisation or localisation option?  
There might be a keyboards option in there.  The documentation
http://trisquel.info/en/wiki/switch-languages-and-keyboard-layout
suggests that Debian/Ubuntu documentation is close to what you need so it's 
worth looking around in that preferences folder for something that looks about 
right.  The trisquel documentation for that does need to be updated.  Perhaps 
you could manage to update it?  Have you done any wiki editing before?
Regards from
Tom :)


--- On Sat, 17/9/11, Winston Yang wins...@cs.wisc.edu wrote:

From: Winston Yang wins...@cs.wisc.edu
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] In Writer, how can I type Indian fonts, such 
as Sanskrit?
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Saturday, 17 September, 2011, 17:55

Thank you for your replies.

I followed the messages below from elcico2001 and webmaster for Kracked 
Press Productions about installing Sanskrit 2003 and changing preferences.

Trisquel 4.5.1 is a little different from what elcico2001 
wrote---instead of a Disposition tab, there is a Layouts tab. I went 
to the following places:

System
  Preferences
  Keyboard
  Layouts (tab)
  Add (button)
  By language (tab)
  Language (drop-down list)
  Hindi.

On the GNOME panel at the bottom of my desktop, there are two keyboard 
icons, one with an earth (Keyboard preferences), and one without 
(IBus input method framework).

Right-clicking the icon without an earth gives a menu with radio buttons 
for USA and India Hindi Bolnagri.

When I chose India Hindi Bolnagri, I was able to type Devanaagarii 
(Hindi, Sanskrit) in Writer.

@soumalya ray,
@Tom Davies:

         Trisquel 4.5.1 has System  Preferences, but no Language.

Winston


On 09/17/2011 09:27 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
 Hi :)
 Same family so it's probably exactly the same
 Regards from
 Tom :)


 --- On Sat, 17/9/11, soumalya raydrsouma...@gmail.com  wrote:

 From: soumalya raydrsouma...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] In Writer, how can I type Indian fonts, such 
 as Sanskrit?
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Date: Saturday, 17 September, 2011, 13:54

 dont know about 'trisquel'.for ubuntu lucid,i went to
 systempreferencelanguage
 choose bengali(as its my native language).keyboard shortcut appear in the
 panel(previous to lucid,you need to add this separately).
 anyway when i need to type,i just clicked on it and bengali gets
 activated.its system wide-works in firefox,chromiun,LO.you need not to
 install any separate language pack for it to work.just the font.since
 sanskrit uses devnagari script (also used by hindi),so that should not be a
 problem.
 but as i've said this is for ubuntu lucid;dont know about trisquel
 regards,


 On 17 September 2011 18:10, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions
 webmas...@krackedpress.com  wrote:

 On 09/17/2011 08:21 AM, elcico2001 एल्चिको wrote:

    Il 17/09/2011 07:05, Winston Yang ha scritto:

 In Writer, how can I type Indian fonts, such as Devanagari/Devanaagarii,
 for Hindi or Sanskrit?

 I'm using LibreOffice 3.4.3 on Linux (Trisquel 4.5.1).

 I tried going to the following places:

          Trisquel: System  Administration  Language Support

          Writer: Tools  Options  Language Settings  Languages

 Thank you.

 Winston

    Hello Winston,
 You can do the following - works for openoffice on debian 6.0, I suppose
 that's the same for libreoffice:

     * download sanskrit font sanskrit2003.ttf (
       
http://www.omkarananda-ashram.**org/Sanskrit/itranslator2003.**htmhttp://www.omkarananda-ashram.org/Sanskrit/itranslator2003.htm-
       
http://www.omkarananda-ashram.**org/Sanskrit/sanskrit2003.ziphttp://www.omkarananda-ashram.org/Sanskrit/sanskrit2003.zip)
     * copy sanskrit2003.ttf to /usr/share/fonts/truetype (that should be
       the right path, but I'm not sure on your distro)

 I just click on the font and a font preview window pops up with an Install
 Button
 I use Ubuntu [Debian], and that is how I install fonts.  All my fonts
 appear in a .font hidden folder.  So if they need to go into the folder you
 listed, the need to go into the hidden one as well.

 There is a font named Devnagri.  I have seen over 200 versions of that
 font.




      * supposing you have Gnome (if you use KDE let me know), go to
       System --  Preferences --  Keyboard  and choose the tab
       Disposition (that should be the english name)
     * click add, choose By Nation, select India, click add
       again, then close the keyboard preferences window
     * if it doesn't appear by itself, add a keyboard indicator on the
       Gnome menu panel --  right clic on the panel, click add to panel
       and select Keyboard indicator
     * once you have the keyboard indicator on your panel, select indian
       layout, then open libreoffice writer
     * if the keyboard layout has changed... go back to indian again
     * select sanskrit 2003 font
     * and finally... write in sanskrit! :)

 Namastè! or I'd 

Re: [libreoffice-users] In Writer, how can I type Indian fonts, such as Sanskrit?

2011-09-17 Thread Winston Yang

Tom,

In Trisquel 4.5.1, System  Preferences does not have options with the 
exact names Regionalis(z)ation or Localis(z)ation, although there is 
a Keyboard option.


Thank you for suggesting that I update the Trisquel wiki. It's been a 
long time since I edited a wiki, but I if I get more familiar with the 
language options, I may edit the Trisquel wiki.


Winston


On 09/17/2011 01:30 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
In System - Preferences is there a Regionalisation or localisation option?  There 
might be a keyboards option in there.  The documentation
http://trisquel.info/en/wiki/switch-languages-and-keyboard-layout
suggests that Debian/Ubuntu documentation is close to what you need so it's 
worth looking around in that preferences folder for something that looks about 
right.  The trisquel documentation for that does need to be updated.  Perhaps 
you could manage to update it?  Have you done any wiki editing before?
Regards from
Tom :)


--- On Sat, 17/9/11, Winston Yangwins...@cs.wisc.edu  wrote:

From: Winston Yangwins...@cs.wisc.edu
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] In Writer, how can I type Indian fonts, such 
as Sanskrit?
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Saturday, 17 September, 2011, 17:55

Thank you for your replies.

I followed the messages below from elcico2001 and webmaster for Kracked
Press Productions about installing Sanskrit 2003 and changing preferences.

Trisquel 4.5.1 is a little different from what elcico2001
wrote---instead of a Disposition tab, there is a Layouts tab. I went
to the following places:

System
Preferences
Keyboard
Layouts (tab)
Add (button)
By language (tab)
Language (drop-down list)
Hindi.

On the GNOME panel at the bottom of my desktop, there are two keyboard
icons, one with an earth (Keyboard preferences), and one without
(IBus input method framework).

Right-clicking the icon without an earth gives a menu with radio buttons
for USA and India Hindi Bolnagri.

When I chose India Hindi Bolnagri, I was able to type Devanaagarii
(Hindi, Sanskrit) in Writer.

@soumalya ray,
@Tom Davies:

  Trisquel 4.5.1 has System  Preferences, but no Language.

Winston


On 09/17/2011 09:27 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
Same family so it's probably exactly the same
Regards from
Tom :)


--- On Sat, 17/9/11, soumalya raydrsouma...@gmail.com   wrote:

From: soumalya raydrsouma...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] In Writer, how can I type Indian fonts, such 
as Sanskrit?
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Saturday, 17 September, 2011, 13:54

dont know about 'trisquel'.for ubuntu lucid,i went to
systempreferencelanguage
choose bengali(as its my native language).keyboard shortcut appear in the
panel(previous to lucid,you need to add this separately).
anyway when i need to type,i just clicked on it and bengali gets
activated.its system wide-works in firefox,chromiun,LO.you need not to
install any separate language pack for it to work.just the font.since
sanskrit uses devnagari script (also used by hindi),so that should not be a
problem.
but as i've said this is for ubuntu lucid;dont know about trisquel
regards,


On 17 September 2011 18:10, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions
webmas...@krackedpress.com   wrote:


On 09/17/2011 08:21 AM, elcico2001 एल्चिको wrote:


 Il 17/09/2011 07:05, Winston Yang ha scritto:


In Writer, how can I type Indian fonts, such as Devanagari/Devanaagarii,
for Hindi or Sanskrit?

I'm using LibreOffice 3.4.3 on Linux (Trisquel 4.5.1).

I tried going to the following places:

   Trisquel: System   Administration   Language Support

   Writer: Tools   Options   Language Settings   Languages

Thank you.

Winston

 Hello Winston,

You can do the following - works for openoffice on debian 6.0, I suppose
that's the same for libreoffice:

  * download sanskrit font sanskrit2003.ttf (

http://www.omkarananda-ashram.**org/Sanskrit/itranslator2003.**htmhttp://www.omkarananda-ashram.org/Sanskrit/itranslator2003.htm-

http://www.omkarananda-ashram.**org/Sanskrit/sanskrit2003.ziphttp://www.omkarananda-ashram.org/Sanskrit/sanskrit2003.zip)
  * copy sanskrit2003.ttf to /usr/share/fonts/truetype (that should be
the right path, but I'm not sure on your distro)


I just click on the font and a font preview window pops up with an Install
Button
I use Ubuntu [Debian], and that is how I install fonts.  All my fonts
appear in a .font hidden folder.  So if they need to go into the folder you
listed, the need to go into the hidden one as well.

There is a font named Devnagri.  I have seen over 200 versions of that
font.




   * supposing you have Gnome (if you use KDE let me know), go to

System --   Preferences --   Keyboard  and choose the tab
Disposition (that should be the english name)
  * click add, choose By Nation, select India, click add
again, then close the keyboard preferences window
  * if it doesn't appear by itself, add a 

Re: [libreoffice-users] In Writer, how can I type Indian fonts, such as Sanskrit?

2011-09-17 Thread Winston Yang
Possibly not everybody knows---today (September 17) is Software Freedom 
Day. There may be events happening in a city near you:


http://www.softwarefreedomday.org/

To celebrate, the maintainers of Trisquel, a fully-free version of 
Linux, have released version 5.0:


http://trisquel.info/

(I found out about the above events just today.)

Winston


On 09/17/2011 01:27 PM, Winston Yang wrote:

Tom,

Regarding distros, besides Trisquel 4.5.1, I've used or tried the 
following distros:


--- Ubuntu 10.10
--- Ubuntu 11.04
--- Linux Mint
--- gNewSense, a fully-free distro
--- RedHat

I may have also used Ubuntu 10.04.

Winston


On 09/17/2011 05:50 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
I think you need
Tools - Options - Language Settings
Near the bottom tick the Enabled for Asian languages and maybe tick 
the Complex Languages (CTL)?


It is good to hear someone using Trisquel.  Debian family (same as 
Ubuntu, Mint etc) but meets the very demanding requirements of the FSF

http://www.fsf.org/
http://www.gnu.org/distros/free-distros.html
http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=trisquel
http://trisquel.info/
Looks good but i guess it needs a bit of experience with GnuLinux 
before trying something  like this?  Have you already used other 
distros in the same family?

Regards from
Tom :)


--- On Sat, 17/9/11, Winston Yangwins...@cs.wisc.edu  wrote:
In Writer, how can I type Indian fonts, such as 
Devanagari/Devanaagarii, for Hindi or Sanskrit?


I'm using LibreOffice 3.4.3 on Linux (Trisquel 4.5.1).

I tried going to the following places:

 Trisquel: System  Administration  Language Support

 Writer: Tools  Options  Language Settings  Languages

Thank you.
Winston







--
For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted



Re: [libreoffice-users] In Writer, how can I type Indian fonts, such as Sanskrit?

2011-09-17 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions

On 09/17/2011 11:52 AM, elcico2001 एल्चिको wrote:

Il 17/09/2011 14:40, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions ha scritto:
I just click on the font and a font preview window pops up with an 
Install Button
I use Ubuntu [Debian], and that is how I install fonts.  All my fonts 
appear in a .font hidden folder.  So if they need to go into the 
folder you listed, the need to go into the hidden one as well.


There is a font named Devnagri.  I have seen over 200 versions of 
that font.


ops! same on Debian too! I copied instructions an old manual and 
forgot the new way to install fonts... forgive me! :)


Well, I forget a lot of things between the different OS's I have dealt 
with.  There are a lot of things I still do not know how to do with 
Ubuntu, and I have been using it full time for over 18 months.




--
For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted


[libreoffice-users] MySQL Native Connector

2011-09-17 Thread Heinrich Stoellinger

Hello,
Some time ago somebody gave me a link to downloading the native connector
to LO/OO from MySQL. I can't find that e-mail anymore! :'(
Could you please resend the info?
Thanks a lot in advance
Heinrich
--
Erstellt mit Operas revolutionärem E-Mail-Modul: http://www.opera.com/mail/

--
For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted



[libreoffice-users] Re: MySQL Native Connector

2011-09-17 Thread Andreas Säger

Am 17.09.2011 21:23, Heinrich Stoellinger wrote:

Hello,
Some time ago somebody gave me a link to downloading the native connector
to LO/OO from MySQL. I can't find that e-mail anymore! :'(
Could you please resend the info?
Thanks a lot in advance
Heinrich


As far as I know, it is shipped with LibreOffice.
Choose database type MySQL instead of JDBC or ODBC.


--
For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted



Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: MySQL Native Connector

2011-09-17 Thread Heinrich Stoellinger

Hello Andreas,
Thanks for your hint, but...
Weird! One can in fact select MySQL as the (native) type of connection for
an odb-file.
However when one then tries to open the odb-file, LO displays a list-box
for the specification of a programme with which to open the odb-file.
Downloading the connector and then trying to activate the connector through
the extension manager doesn't work either.

On Sat, 17 Sep 2011 21:43:46 +0200, Andreas Säger ville...@t-online.de wrote:


Am 17.09.2011 21:23, Heinrich Stoellinger wrote:

Hello,
Some time ago somebody gave me a link to downloading the native connector
to LO/OO from MySQL. I can't find that e-mail anymore! :'(
Could you please resend the info?
Thanks a lot in advance
Heinrich


As far as I know, it is shipped with LibreOffice.
Choose database type MySQL instead of JDBC or ODBC.





--
Erstellt mit Operas revolutionärem E-Mail-Modul: http://www.opera.com/mail/

--
For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted



Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LO Base 3.4.3 on Linux using ODBC

2011-09-17 Thread Heinrich Stoellinger

Hello Alex,
Seems like I unfortunately cannot get rid of the Java Runtime environment.
The reason is that the report-generator needs it!!!  :(
Regards
Heinrich

On Sat, 17 Sep 2011 17:50:19 +0200, Alexander Thurgood 
alex.thurg...@gmail.com wrote:


Le 16/09/11 20:44, Heinrich Stoellinger a écrit :

Hi Heinrich,


When I enter data into a table where some columns have a default value
defined
(i.e., I do NOT actually enter ANYTHING into such colums but rely on the
default value) this default value is actually entered correctly into the
table.
However, the default value is not shown on completion of data entry.
Only when selecting
the tuple afterwards do I see that everything is o.k.
This only happens on my Linux system. LO 3.3.4.1 Base on MS-Vista with
the native
MySQL-Connector does everything correctly.


The native connector and the ODBC have limitations which are different
(I don't remember where originally they were listed, but they were,
probably when the native connector first came out or was in development).

Additionally, there is a lot of buggy behaviour in current ODBC
implementation with mysql from within OOo/LibO. One of the problems I
remember with the ODBC connector is that OOo was unable to completely
ask for all of the functionality supported by the driver, and even then,
sometimes the driver incorrectly reported back to OOo what it was
capable of handling. So there are several possible causes :

- new bug introduced with the OOo 3.4.x branch and taken over into the
LibO code ;
- bug in the ODBC driver itself;
- new bug just in the LibO code that affects ODBC connections.

Having had problems myself with a proprietary ODBC connector on Mac, and
accessing a mysql db via OOo/LibO, I tend to favour the first of the
three possibilities I listed.

I would report it as a bug and add it to the increasingly long list.

Alex






--
Erstellt mit Operas revolutionärem E-Mail-Modul: http://www.opera.com/mail/

--
For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted



Re: [libreoffice-users] In Writer, how can I type Indian fonts, such as Sanskrit?

2011-09-17 Thread elcico2001 एल्चिको

Il 17/09/2011 20:17, Winston Yang ha scritto:
Possibly not everybody knows---today (September 17) is Software 
Freedom Day. There may be events happening in a city near you:


http://www.softwarefreedomday.org/

To celebrate, the maintainers of Trisquel, a fully-free version of 
Linux, have released version 5.0:


http://trisquel.info/

(I found out about the above events just today.)

Winston



Thank you Winston,
I just had a look at the trisquel website and I found out that... and I 
think I'll try this distro tonight! :)

Namastè! :)

--
cico

Icq/Licq/Gaim #175451007
Debian Powered Linux Registered User #310800 at http://counter.li.org
No retreat baby no surrender
http://www.retenergie.it - coop di produttori e utilizzatori di energia da 
fonti rinnovabili
tad evaarthamaatra-nirbhaasaM svaruupa-shuunyam iva samaadhiH
Sanskrit - Realize it's the common language ;-)


--
For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted


Re: Fwd: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice-Base CPU usage

2011-09-17 Thread Don Myers

Hi All,

I set up base shortly after it was added to Open Office. Apparently I am 
using the embedded database - HSQL database engine. If I turn off Java 
(I just tried it.), I get the following error message:
The connection to the data source RE Database could not be 
established. No SDBC driver was found for the given URL.


I cannot open my database without Java enabled. So using the database 
included with base will not work without Java.


Don

On 09/17/2011 08:29 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
I think you can completely un-install all instances of java but i think that 
might create problems.  Your web-browser might not be very happy without java.  
Generally i try to keep escape routes and back-up plans available = so i would 
just switch off java in LO so that i could switch it on again quite easily if i 
needed it.

Tools - Options - LibreOffice/General - Java
then UNtick the box at the very top Use a java runtime environment.  I have 
only unticked this a few days ago and LO seems to start-up a lot faster.
Regards from
Tom :)

--- On Sat, 17/9/11, Heinrich Stoellingerhc.stoellin...@aon.at  wrote:

From: Heinrich Stoellingerhc.stoellin...@aon.at
Subject: Fwd: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice-Base CPU usage
To: users@global.libreoffice.orgusers@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Saturday, 17 September, 2011, 11:55

Hello again,
Is there a misunderstanding somewhere? As I said, I use the ODBC-connection
to MySQL on Linux (and a very well working native MySQL-connection under
Windows). Like I posted in another message, ODBC also has problems (such
as not showing default values for columns correctly on data entry, but -
since the database is actually updated correctly - this doesn't really
worry me much.
So, like Tom suggests: can I get completely rid of Java if I don't
conciously use it in any way that an end-user or programmer could cause?
That would be more than alright for me...
Regards
H. Stoellinger (from a lovely early autumn sunny day here in Salzburg)
P.S.: I have used the Java-connector in the past but don't do so anymore.


--- Forwarded message ---
From: Andreas Sägerville...@t-online.de
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice-Base CPU usage
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 11:35:28 +0200

Since you are not running MySQL through ODBC you can turn off all Java
support for the entire office suite and simply work with the raw
database connectivity and input forms.
All the Java wizards are close to useless anyway. You don't need them
and get much better results faster if you know what you're doing.



Am 16.09.2011 20:44, Heinrich Stoellinger wrote:

Hello again,
On my Linux/LO 3.4.3 system, after some time of working with Base (ODBC
connetcion
to MySQL), LO uses 90 to 100 p.c. of one of the 4 CPUs of my PC. When I
then save
LO-Base, CPU-usage is normal again (for a while!). I don't really know
what causes
this behaviour, could it have to to with backup copy creation? I find an
aweful
lot of backup files in /home/rainermusik/.libreoffice/3/user/backup.
All of them have a filename something like rmodbc.odb_9777.odb and are
of 0 (zero)
size. I wonder what's wrong.
Regards
H. Stoellinger



--Erstellt mit Operas revolutionärem E-Mail-Modul: http://www.opera.com/mail/

--For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted




--

*~~*
Don C. Myers
e-PRO Certified by the National Association of Realtors
Manager, Farm and Rural Property Division
*Coldwell Banker University Realty
*126 East Foster Avenue, State College, PA 16801
Phone: 814-237-6543 Fax: 814-237-6502
Visit the Farm and Rural Property Division Website at 
www.cbur-ruralproperty.com http://www.cbur-ruralproperty.com/_

_View Don's farm website: www.myersfarm.com http://www.myersfarm.com/
*~~*


--
For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted



Re: Fwd: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice-Base CPU usage

2011-09-17 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Thanks Don.  I think you might be able to convert/export/migrate your back-end 
to a different one.  I don't think you have to stick with HSql.  I'm not sure 
if it's possible to remove java dependence when using HSql, i thought it was 
but i could be wrong.
Regards from
Tom :)


--- On Sat, 17/9/11, Don Myers donmy...@myersfarm.com wrote:

From: Don Myers donmy...@myersfarm.com
Subject: Re: Fwd: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice-Base CPU usage
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Saturday, 17 September, 2011, 23:13

Hi All,

I set up base shortly after it was added to Open Office. Apparently I am 
using the embedded database - HSQL database engine. If I turn off Java 
(I just tried it.), I get the following error message:
The connection to the data source RE Database could not be 
established. No SDBC driver was found for the given URL.

I cannot open my database without Java enabled. So using the database 
included with base will not work without Java.

Don

On 09/17/2011 08:29 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
 Hi :)
 I think you can completely un-install all instances of java but i think that 
 might create problems.  Your web-browser might not be very happy without 
 java.  Generally i try to keep escape routes and back-up plans available = so 
 i would just switch off java in LO so that i could switch it on again quite 
 easily if i needed it.

 Tools - Options - LibreOffice/General - Java
 then UNtick the box at the very top Use a java runtime environment.  I have 
 only unticked this a few days ago and LO seems to start-up a lot faster.
 Regards from
 Tom :)

 --- On Sat, 17/9/11, Heinrich Stoellingerhc.stoellin...@aon.at  wrote:

 From: Heinrich Stoellingerhc.stoellin...@aon.at
 Subject: Fwd: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice-Base CPU usage
 To: users@global.libreoffice.orgusers@global.libreoffice.org
 Date: Saturday, 17 September, 2011, 11:55

 Hello again,
 Is there a misunderstanding somewhere? As I said, I use the ODBC-connection
 to MySQL on Linux (and a very well working native MySQL-connection under
 Windows). Like I posted in another message, ODBC also has problems (such
 as not showing default values for columns correctly on data entry, but -
 since the database is actually updated correctly - this doesn't really
 worry me much.
 So, like Tom suggests: can I get completely rid of Java if I don't
 conciously use it in any way that an end-user or programmer could cause?
 That would be more than alright for me...
 Regards
 H. Stoellinger (from a lovely early autumn sunny day here in Salzburg)
 P.S.: I have used the Java-connector in the past but don't do so anymore.


 --- Forwarded message ---
 From: Andreas Sägerville...@t-online.de
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice-Base CPU usage
 Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 11:35:28 +0200

 Since you are not running MySQL through ODBC you can turn off all Java
 support for the entire office suite and simply work with the raw
 database connectivity and input forms.
 All the Java wizards are close to useless anyway. You don't need them
 and get much better results faster if you know what you're doing.



 Am 16.09.2011 20:44, Heinrich Stoellinger wrote:
 Hello again,
 On my Linux/LO 3.4.3 system, after some time of working with Base (ODBC
 connetcion
 to MySQL), LO uses 90 to 100 p.c. of one of the 4 CPUs of my PC. When I
 then save
 LO-Base, CPU-usage is normal again (for a while!). I don't really know
 what causes
 this behaviour, could it have to to with backup copy creation? I find an
 aweful
 lot of backup files in /home/rainermusik/.libreoffice/3/user/backup.
 All of them have a filename something like rmodbc.odb_9777.odb and are
 of 0 (zero)
 size. I wonder what's wrong.
 Regards
 H. Stoellinger


 --Erstellt mit Operas revolutionärem E-Mail-Modul: http://www.opera.com/mail/

 --For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org
 Problems? 
 http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
 Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
 List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/
 All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted



-- 

*~~*
Don C. Myers
e-PRO Certified by the National Association of Realtors
Manager, Farm and Rural Property Division
*Coldwell Banker University Realty
*126 East Foster Avenue, State College, PA 16801
Phone: 814-237-6543 Fax: 814-237-6502
Visit the Farm and Rural Property Division Website at 
www.cbur-ruralproperty.com http://www.cbur-ruralproperty.com/_
_View Don's farm website: www.myersfarm.com http://www.myersfarm.com/
*~~*


-- 
For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: 

Re: Fwd: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice-Base CPU usage

2011-09-17 Thread Don Myers

Hi Tom,

There is an old saying - if it ain't broke, don't fix it. The thing I 
dislike most about Base is to have to open three windows to get to my 
form in the database. Some time ago I left a post on an Open Office 
forum asking if there was a way to set up a macro so I could do it in 
one click. There were never any replies. With Paradox or Access I was 
able to go to the form by just opening the program. But what I really 
like about Base is I just have 1 file to copy to keep my database 
updated on my three other computers. When I say if it ain't broken, 
don't fix it, I've never had one issue using Base. It has worked very 
well for me over a long period (7 or 8 years) of time. There are few 
programs I've ever used that have had that kind of dependability.


Don

On 09/17/2011 06:30 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
Thanks Don.  I think you might be able to convert/export/migrate your back-end 
to a different one.  I don't think you have to stick with HSql.  I'm not sure 
if it's possible to remove java dependence when using HSql, i thought it was 
but i could be wrong.
Regards from
Tom :)


--- On Sat, 17/9/11, Don Myersdonmy...@myersfarm.com  wrote:

From: Don Myersdonmy...@myersfarm.com
Subject: Re: Fwd: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice-Base CPU usage
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Saturday, 17 September, 2011, 23:13

Hi All,

I set up base shortly after it was added to Open Office. Apparently I am
using the embedded database - HSQL database engine. If I turn off Java
(I just tried it.), I get the following error message:
The connection to the data source RE Database could not be
established. No SDBC driver was found for the given URL.

I cannot open my database without Java enabled. So using the database
included with base will not work without Java.

Don

On 09/17/2011 08:29 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
I think you can completely un-install all instances of java but i think that 
might create problems.  Your web-browser might not be very happy without java.  
Generally i try to keep escape routes and back-up plans available = so i would 
just switch off java in LO so that i could switch it on again quite easily if i 
needed it.

Tools - Options - LibreOffice/General - Java
then UNtick the box at the very top Use a java runtime environment.  I have 
only unticked this a few days ago and LO seems to start-up a lot faster.
Regards from
Tom :)

--- On Sat, 17/9/11, Heinrich Stoellingerhc.stoellin...@aon.at   wrote:

From: Heinrich Stoellingerhc.stoellin...@aon.at
Subject: Fwd: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice-Base CPU usage
To: users@global.libreoffice.orgusers@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Saturday, 17 September, 2011, 11:55

Hello again,
Is there a misunderstanding somewhere? As I said, I use the ODBC-connection
to MySQL on Linux (and a very well working native MySQL-connection under
Windows). Like I posted in another message, ODBC also has problems (such
as not showing default values for columns correctly on data entry, but -
since the database is actually updated correctly - this doesn't really
worry me much.
So, like Tom suggests: can I get completely rid of Java if I don't
conciously use it in any way that an end-user or programmer could cause?
That would be more than alright for me...
Regards
H. Stoellinger (from a lovely early autumn sunny day here in Salzburg)
P.S.: I have used the Java-connector in the past but don't do so anymore.


--- Forwarded message ---
From: Andreas Sägerville...@t-online.de
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice-Base CPU usage
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 11:35:28 +0200

Since you are not running MySQL through ODBC you can turn off all Java
support for the entire office suite and simply work with the raw
database connectivity and input forms.
All the Java wizards are close to useless anyway. You don't need them
and get much better results faster if you know what you're doing.



Am 16.09.2011 20:44, Heinrich Stoellinger wrote:

Hello again,
On my Linux/LO 3.4.3 system, after some time of working with Base (ODBC
connetcion
to MySQL), LO uses 90 to 100 p.c. of one of the 4 CPUs of my PC. When I
then save
LO-Base, CPU-usage is normal again (for a while!). I don't really know
what causes
this behaviour, could it have to to with backup copy creation? I find an
aweful
lot of backup files in /home/rainermusik/.libreoffice/3/user/backup.
All of them have a filename something like rmodbc.odb_9777.odb and are
of 0 (zero)
size. I wonder what's wrong.
Regards
H. Stoellinger


--Erstellt mit Operas revolutionärem E-Mail-Modul: http://www.opera.com/mail/

--For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted





Re: [libreoffice-users] In Writer, how can I type Indian fonts, such as Sanskrit?

2011-09-17 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Hmm, sorry i couldn't help there.  Don't worry about editing the wiki if you 
don't have time.  It feels good to do things like that but it's not always easy 
to find time.  

Have you managed to fix the problem yet or is there still something more that 
needs to be done?
Regards from
Tom :)


--- On Sat, 17/9/11, Winston Yang wins...@cs.wisc.edu wrote:

From: Winston Yang wins...@cs.wisc.edu
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] In Writer, how can I type Indian fonts, such 
as Sanskrit?
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Saturday, 17 September, 2011, 19:08

Tom,

In Trisquel 4.5.1, System  Preferences does not have options with the 
exact names Regionalis(z)ation or Localis(z)ation, although there is 
a Keyboard option.

Thank you for suggesting that I update the Trisquel wiki. It's been a 
long time since I edited a wiki, but I if I get more familiar with the 
language options, I may edit the Trisquel wiki.

Winston


On 09/17/2011 01:30 PM, Tom Davies wrote:
 Hi :)
 In System - Preferences is there a Regionalisation or localisation 
 option?  There might be a keyboards option in there.  The documentation
 http://trisquel.info/en/wiki/switch-languages-and-keyboard-layout
 suggests that Debian/Ubuntu documentation is close to what you need so it's 
 worth looking around in that preferences folder for something that looks 
 about right.  The trisquel documentation for that does need to be updated.  
 Perhaps you could manage to update it?  Have you done any wiki editing before?
 Regards from
 Tom :)


 --- On Sat, 17/9/11, Winston Yangwins...@cs.wisc.edu  wrote:

 From: Winston Yangwins...@cs.wisc.edu
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] In Writer, how can I type Indian fonts, such 
 as Sanskrit?
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Date: Saturday, 17 September, 2011, 17:55

 Thank you for your replies.

 I followed the messages below from elcico2001 and webmaster for Kracked
 Press Productions about installing Sanskrit 2003 and changing preferences.

 Trisquel 4.5.1 is a little different from what elcico2001
 wrote---instead of a Disposition tab, there is a Layouts tab. I went
 to the following places:

 System
 Preferences
 Keyboard
 Layouts (tab)
 Add (button)
 By language (tab)
 Language (drop-down list)
 Hindi.

 On the GNOME panel at the bottom of my desktop, there are two keyboard
 icons, one with an earth (Keyboard preferences), and one without
 (IBus input method framework).

 Right-clicking the icon without an earth gives a menu with radio buttons
 for USA and India Hindi Bolnagri.

 When I chose India Hindi Bolnagri, I was able to type Devanaagarii
 (Hindi, Sanskrit) in Writer.

 @soumalya ray,
 @Tom Davies:

           Trisquel 4.5.1 has System  Preferences, but no Language.

 Winston


 On 09/17/2011 09:27 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
 Hi :)
 Same family so it's probably exactly the same
 Regards from
 Tom :)


 --- On Sat, 17/9/11, soumalya raydrsouma...@gmail.com   wrote:

 From: soumalya raydrsouma...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] In Writer, how can I type Indian fonts, 
 such as Sanskrit?
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Date: Saturday, 17 September, 2011, 13:54

 dont know about 'trisquel'.for ubuntu lucid,i went to
 systempreferencelanguage
 choose bengali(as its my native language).keyboard shortcut appear in the
 panel(previous to lucid,you need to add this separately).
 anyway when i need to type,i just clicked on it and bengali gets
 activated.its system wide-works in firefox,chromiun,LO.you need not to
 install any separate language pack for it to work.just the font.since
 sanskrit uses devnagari script (also used by hindi),so that should not be a
 problem.
 but as i've said this is for ubuntu lucid;dont know about trisquel
 regards,


 On 17 September 2011 18:10, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions
 webmas...@krackedpress.com   wrote:

 On 09/17/2011 08:21 AM, elcico2001 एल्चिको wrote:

      Il 17/09/2011 07:05, Winston Yang ha scritto:

 In Writer, how can I type Indian fonts, such as Devanagari/Devanaagarii,
 for Hindi or Sanskrit?

 I'm using LibreOffice 3.4.3 on Linux (Trisquel 4.5.1).

 I tried going to the following places:

            Trisquel: System   Administration   Language Support

            Writer: Tools   Options   Language Settings   Languages

 Thank you.

 Winston

      Hello Winston,
 You can do the following - works for openoffice on debian 6.0, I suppose
 that's the same for libreoffice:

       * download sanskrit font sanskrit2003.ttf (
         
http://www.omkarananda-ashram.**org/Sanskrit/itranslator2003.**htmhttp://www.omkarananda-ashram.org/Sanskrit/itranslator2003.htm-
         
http://www.omkarananda-ashram.**org/Sanskrit/sanskrit2003.ziphttp://www.omkarananda-ashram.org/Sanskrit/sanskrit2003.zip)
       * copy sanskrit2003.ttf to /usr/share/fonts/truetype (that should be
         the right path, but I'm not sure on your distro)

 I just click on the font and a font preview window pops up with an Install
 

Re: Fwd: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice-Base CPU usage

2011-09-17 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
If the different machines are on a Lan then it might be possible to share the 
back-end and then any change from any of the 3 machines would be on the other 
machines too?
Regards from
Tom :)

--- On Sat, 17/9/11, Don Myers donmy...@myersfarm.com wrote:

From: Don Myers donmy...@myersfarm.com
Subject: Re: Fwd: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice-Base CPU usage
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Saturday, 17 September, 2011, 23:44

Hi Tom,

There is an old saying - if it ain't broke, don't fix it. The thing I 
dislike most about Base is to have to open three windows to get to my 
form in the database. Some time ago I left a post on an Open Office 
forum asking if there was a way to set up a macro so I could do it in 
one click. There were never any replies. With Paradox or Access I was 
able to go to the form by just opening the program. But what I really 
like about Base is I just have 1 file to copy to keep my database 
updated on my three other computers. When I say if it ain't broken, 
don't fix it, I've never had one issue using Base. It has worked very 
well for me over a long period (7 or 8 years) of time. There are few 
programs I've ever used that have had that kind of dependability.

Don

On 09/17/2011 06:30 PM, Tom Davies wrote:
 Hi :)
 Thanks Don.  I think you might be able to convert/export/migrate your 
 back-end to a different one.  I don't think you have to stick with HSql.  I'm 
 not sure if it's possible to remove java dependence when using HSql, i 
 thought it was but i could be wrong.
 Regards from
 Tom :)


 --- On Sat, 17/9/11, Don Myersdonmy...@myersfarm.com  wrote:

 From: Don Myersdonmy...@myersfarm.com
 Subject: Re: Fwd: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice-Base CPU usage
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Date: Saturday, 17 September, 2011, 23:13

 Hi All,

 I set up base shortly after it was added to Open Office. Apparently I am
 using the embedded database - HSQL database engine. If I turn off Java
 (I just tried it.), I get the following error message:
 The connection to the data source RE Database could not be
 established. No SDBC driver was found for the given URL.

 I cannot open my database without Java enabled. So using the database
 included with base will not work without Java.

 Don

 On 09/17/2011 08:29 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
 Hi :)
 I think you can completely un-install all instances of java but i think that 
 might create problems.  Your web-browser might not be very happy without 
 java.  Generally i try to keep escape routes and back-up plans available = 
 so i would just switch off java in LO so that i could switch it on again 
 quite easily if i needed it.

 Tools - Options - LibreOffice/General - Java
 then UNtick the box at the very top Use a java runtime environment.  I 
 have only unticked this a few days ago and LO seems to start-up a lot faster.
 Regards from
 Tom :)

 --- On Sat, 17/9/11, Heinrich Stoellingerhc.stoellin...@aon.at   wrote:

 From: Heinrich Stoellingerhc.stoellin...@aon.at
 Subject: Fwd: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice-Base CPU usage
 To: users@global.libreoffice.orgusers@global.libreoffice.org
 Date: Saturday, 17 September, 2011, 11:55

 Hello again,
 Is there a misunderstanding somewhere? As I said, I use the ODBC-connection
 to MySQL on Linux (and a very well working native MySQL-connection under
 Windows). Like I posted in another message, ODBC also has problems (such
 as not showing default values for columns correctly on data entry, but -
 since the database is actually updated correctly - this doesn't really
 worry me much.
 So, like Tom suggests: can I get completely rid of Java if I don't
 conciously use it in any way that an end-user or programmer could cause?
 That would be more than alright for me...
 Regards
 H. Stoellinger (from a lovely early autumn sunny day here in Salzburg)
 P.S.: I have used the Java-connector in the past but don't do so anymore.


 --- Forwarded message ---
 From: Andreas Sägerville...@t-online.de
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice-Base CPU usage
 Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 11:35:28 +0200

 Since you are not running MySQL through ODBC you can turn off all Java
 support for the entire office suite and simply work with the raw
 database connectivity and input forms.
 All the Java wizards are close to useless anyway. You don't need them
 and get much better results faster if you know what you're doing.



 Am 16.09.2011 20:44, Heinrich Stoellinger wrote:
 Hello again,
 On my Linux/LO 3.4.3 system, after some time of working with Base (ODBC
 connetcion
 to MySQL), LO uses 90 to 100 p.c. of one of the 4 CPUs of my PC. When I
 then save
 LO-Base, CPU-usage is normal again (for a while!). I don't really know
 what causes
 this behaviour, could it have to to with backup copy creation? I find an
 aweful
 lot of backup files in /home/rainermusik/.libreoffice/3/user/backup.
 All of them have a filename something like rmodbc.odb_9777.odb and are
 of 0 

[libreoffice-users] Re: Table macro problem in 3.4.2

2011-09-17 Thread gomadtroll
Just an update to this issue. 

I tried version 3.4.3 on a Debian Squeeze box. The double lines in tables on
my templates   and all the docs created from them with an earlier version of
OO, are unreadable in cells with double lines. 

I am using ver 3.3.4, it works fine.

--
View this message in context: 
http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Table-macro-problem-in-3-4-2-tp3218300p3345463.html
Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

-- 
For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted



Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: docx format troubles

2011-09-17 Thread Tim Deaton


On 9/17/2011 7:35 AM, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote:

On 15/09/2011 16:34, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote:


I tell everyone that I deal with that MS does not support those x 
formats the same between their different version of Office.  I know 
people who save their documents in .docx with Office 2010 and it does 
not work completely read by Office 2007.  SO I tell them unless there 
is a dire need to save it in those x formats, use the ones that go 
from Office 97 through 2003.


There's one major problem with that. In Windows 7 (and it may have 
been the case in Vista) the option hide extensions for known file 
types is turned ON by DEFAULT so when the user of Office 2007/2010 
creates a document, all they see in the title is the name of the 
document, not the extension so they don't even KNOW that the default 
document types are .???x at all.
Plenty of posts in the MS Office forums of the type: I just bought 
Office 2007/2010 and my recipients (i.e. those using 2003 or prior who 
have NOT installed the compatibility pack) can't open documents I send 
them. Why?

I don't quite know how that is got around...




For any Windows users (XP thru 7) who cannot see their file extensions:
1. Open Windows Explorer ([WindowsLogo]+[e])
2. Click [Tools], then [Folder Options], then [View]
3. Uncheck the box beside Hide extensions for known file types

That feature is one of the stupidest things Microsoft has ever come up 
with.  Ever since Windows XP introduced it, disabling it is the first 
thing I do to any computer.


I hope that helps.
-- Tim Deaton

--
For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted



Re: Fwd: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice-Base CPU usage

2011-09-17 Thread Don Myers

Thank you Tom,

Only one of them is on the same network. That is basically a backup 
computer. The other two are at a different location and are not 
networked with the first two.


Don

On 09/17/2011 06:58 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
If the different machines are on a Lan then it might be possible to share the 
back-end and then any change from any of the 3 machines would be on the other 
machines too?
Regards from
Tom :)

--- On Sat, 17/9/11, Don Myersdonmy...@myersfarm.com  wrote:

From: Don Myersdonmy...@myersfarm.com
Subject: Re: Fwd: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice-Base CPU usage
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Saturday, 17 September, 2011, 23:44

Hi Tom,

There is an old saying - if it ain't broke, don't fix it. The thing I
dislike most about Base is to have to open three windows to get to my
form in the database. Some time ago I left a post on an Open Office
forum asking if there was a way to set up a macro so I could do it in
one click. There were never any replies. With Paradox or Access I was
able to go to the form by just opening the program. But what I really
like about Base is I just have 1 file to copy to keep my database
updated on my three other computers. When I say if it ain't broken,
don't fix it, I've never had one issue using Base. It has worked very
well for me over a long period (7 or 8 years) of time. There are few
programs I've ever used that have had that kind of dependability.

Don

On 09/17/2011 06:30 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
Thanks Don.  I think you might be able to convert/export/migrate your back-end 
to a different one.  I don't think you have to stick with HSql.  I'm not sure 
if it's possible to remove java dependence when using HSql, i thought it was 
but i could be wrong.
Regards from
Tom :)


--- On Sat, 17/9/11, Don Myersdonmy...@myersfarm.com   wrote:

From: Don Myersdonmy...@myersfarm.com
Subject: Re: Fwd: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice-Base CPU usage
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Saturday, 17 September, 2011, 23:13

Hi All,

I set up base shortly after it was added to Open Office. Apparently I am
using the embedded database - HSQL database engine. If I turn off Java
(I just tried it.), I get the following error message:
The connection to the data source RE Database could not be
established. No SDBC driver was found for the given URL.

I cannot open my database without Java enabled. So using the database
included with base will not work without Java.

Don

On 09/17/2011 08:29 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
I think you can completely un-install all instances of java but i think that 
might create problems.  Your web-browser might not be very happy without java.  
Generally i try to keep escape routes and back-up plans available = so i would 
just switch off java in LO so that i could switch it on again quite easily if i 
needed it.

Tools - Options - LibreOffice/General - Java
then UNtick the box at the very top Use a java runtime environment.  I have 
only unticked this a few days ago and LO seems to start-up a lot faster.
Regards from
Tom :)

--- On Sat, 17/9/11, Heinrich Stoellingerhc.stoellin...@aon.atwrote:

From: Heinrich Stoellingerhc.stoellin...@aon.at
Subject: Fwd: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice-Base CPU usage
To: users@global.libreoffice.orgusers@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Saturday, 17 September, 2011, 11:55

Hello again,
Is there a misunderstanding somewhere? As I said, I use the ODBC-connection
to MySQL on Linux (and a very well working native MySQL-connection under
Windows). Like I posted in another message, ODBC also has problems (such
as not showing default values for columns correctly on data entry, but -
since the database is actually updated correctly - this doesn't really
worry me much.
So, like Tom suggests: can I get completely rid of Java if I don't
conciously use it in any way that an end-user or programmer could cause?
That would be more than alright for me...
Regards
H. Stoellinger (from a lovely early autumn sunny day here in Salzburg)
P.S.: I have used the Java-connector in the past but don't do so anymore.


--- Forwarded message ---
From: Andreas Sägerville...@t-online.de
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice-Base CPU usage
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 11:35:28 +0200

Since you are not running MySQL through ODBC you can turn off all Java
support for the entire office suite and simply work with the raw
database connectivity and input forms.
All the Java wizards are close to useless anyway. You don't need them
and get much better results faster if you know what you're doing.



Am 16.09.2011 20:44, Heinrich Stoellinger wrote:

Hello again,
On my Linux/LO 3.4.3 system, after some time of working with Base (ODBC
connetcion
to MySQL), LO uses 90 to 100 p.c. of one of the 4 CPUs of my PC. When I
then save
LO-Base, CPU-usage is normal again (for a while!). I don't really know
what causes
this behaviour, could it have to to with backup copy creation? I find an

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: docx format troubles

2011-09-17 Thread Tim Deaton
It's very true that 80% of people only use 20% of the program.  The 
problem is that my 20% is not your 20%.  Now, if you could do in-depth 
tracking of thousands of random users, you might be able to isolate a 
certain set of features that almost nobody uses.  Then those features 
could be removed if doing so would make enough difference (in 
performance or in resources used) to make it worth the effort.


-- Tim Deaton



On 9/17/2011 8:40 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
I really like that idea a lot but i have been told it's unfeasable.  Even if we 
could clearly identify that 20% it would be tricky to slim the apps down that 
way.
Regards from
Tom :)


--- On Sat, 17/9/11, David B Teague srdavidbtea...@comporium.net  wrote:

From: David B Teague srdavidbtea...@comporium.net
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: docx format troubles
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Saturday, 17 September, 2011, 13:30

On 9/16/2011 6:56 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

If you were able to ring-fence about 20% of the features of MS Office then 
about 80% of users never stray outside that.  From what i see it's more like 
about 100% of users.  Most users don't even use all of that 20%.

I hope this isn't hijacking the thread, and if so, /please /say so, and I'll 
repost this in a new thread.

The fact that 20% of the features of MS Office (and by implication, LO and 
OO.o) used almost exclusively by some 80% of the users suggests to me that OO.o 
should identify that 20% of features and modularize OO.o or LO or what have you 
to include that 20% and make the other 80% of the features available as 
extensions.

I'd like comments on this idea.

David Teague

-- nil significat nisi oscillat


-- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted




--
For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted



Re: [libreoffice-users] In Writer, how can I type Indian fonts, such as Sanskrit?

2011-09-17 Thread Winston Yang

Tom,

I fixed the problem about typing in Devanagari/Devanaagarii (the 
alphabet of Hindi and Sanskrit) in Writer on Linux. Thank you.


If anyone else has the same problem, you can try looking at my reply 
below at Saturday, 17 September, 2011, 17:55, about the steps that I 
took for Trisquel 4.5.1.


Winston


On 09/17/2011 06:54 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
Hmm, sorry i couldn't help there.  Don't worry about editing the wiki if you don't have time.  It feels good to do things like that but it's not always easy to find time. 


Have you managed to fix the problem yet or is there still something more that 
needs to be done?
Regards from
Tom :)


--- On Sat, 17/9/11, Winston Yangwins...@cs.wisc.edu  wrote:

From: Winston Yangwins...@cs.wisc.edu
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] In Writer, how can I type Indian fonts, such 
as Sanskrit?
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Saturday, 17 September, 2011, 19:08

Tom,

In Trisquel 4.5.1, System  Preferences does not have options with the
exact names Regionalis(z)ation or Localis(z)ation, although there is
a Keyboard option.

Thank you for suggesting that I update the Trisquel wiki. It's been a
long time since I edited a wiki, but I if I get more familiar with the
language options, I may edit the Trisquel wiki.

Winston


On 09/17/2011 01:30 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
In System - Preferences is there a Regionalisation or localisation option?  There 
might be a keyboards option in there.  The documentation
http://trisquel.info/en/wiki/switch-languages-and-keyboard-layout
suggests that Debian/Ubuntu documentation is close to what you need so it's 
worth looking around in that preferences folder for something that looks about 
right.  The trisquel documentation for that does need to be updated.  Perhaps 
you could manage to update it?  Have you done any wiki editing before?
Regards from
Tom :)


--- On Sat, 17/9/11, Winston Yangwins...@cs.wisc.edu   wrote:

From: Winston Yangwins...@cs.wisc.edu
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] In Writer, how can I type Indian fonts, such 
as Sanskrit?
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Saturday, 17 September, 2011, 17:55

Thank you for your replies.

I followed the messages below from elcico2001 and webmaster for Kracked
Press Productions about installing Sanskrit 2003 and changing preferences.

Trisquel 4.5.1 is a little different from what elcico2001
wrote---instead of a Disposition tab, there is a Layouts tab. I went
to the following places:

System
   Preferences
   Keyboard
   Layouts (tab)
   Add (button)
   By language (tab)
   Language (drop-down list)
   Hindi.

On the GNOME panel at the bottom of my desktop, there are two keyboard
icons, one with an earth (Keyboard preferences), and one without
(IBus input method framework).

Right-clicking the icon without an earth gives a menu with radio buttons
for USA and India Hindi Bolnagri.

When I chose India Hindi Bolnagri, I was able to type Devanaagarii
(Hindi, Sanskrit) in Writer.

@soumalya ray,
@Tom Davies:

Trisquel 4.5.1 has System   Preferences, but no Language.

Winston


On 09/17/2011 09:27 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
Same family so it's probably exactly the same
Regards from
Tom :)


--- On Sat, 17/9/11, soumalya raydrsouma...@gmail.comwrote:

From: soumalya raydrsouma...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] In Writer, how can I type Indian fonts, such 
as Sanskrit?
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Saturday, 17 September, 2011, 13:54

dont know about 'trisquel'.for ubuntu lucid,i went to
systempreferencelanguage
choose bengali(as its my native language).keyboard shortcut appear in the
panel(previous to lucid,you need to add this separately).
anyway when i need to type,i just clicked on it and bengali gets
activated.its system wide-works in firefox,chromiun,LO.you need not to
install any separate language pack for it to work.just the font.since
sanskrit uses devnagari script (also used by hindi),so that should not be a
problem.
but as i've said this is for ubuntu lucid;dont know about trisquel
regards,


On 17 September 2011 18:10, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions
webmas...@krackedpress.comwrote:


On 09/17/2011 08:21 AM, elcico2001 एल्चिको wrote:


   Il 17/09/2011 07:05, Winston Yang ha scritto:


In Writer, how can I type Indian fonts, such as Devanagari/Devanaagarii,
for Hindi or Sanskrit?

I'm using LibreOffice 3.4.3 on Linux (Trisquel 4.5.1).

I tried going to the following places:

 Trisquel: SystemAdministrationLanguage Support

 Writer: ToolsOptionsLanguage SettingsLanguages

Thank you.

Winston

   Hello Winston,

You can do the following - works for openoffice on debian 6.0, I suppose
that's the same for libreoffice:

* download sanskrit font sanskrit2003.ttf (
  
http://www.omkarananda-ashram.**org/Sanskrit/itranslator2003.**htmhttp://www.omkarananda-ashram.org/Sanskrit/itranslator2003.htm-
  

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: docx format troubles

2011-09-17 Thread planas
David,

On Sat, 2011-09-17 at 08:30 -0400, David B Teague sr wrote: 

 On 9/16/2011 6:56 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
  If you were able to ring-fence about 20% of the features of MS Office then 
  about 80% of users never stray outside that.  From what i see it's more 
  like about 100% of users.  Most users don't even use all of that 20%.
 I hope this isn't hijacking the thread, and if so, /please /say so, and 
 I'll repost this in a new thread.
 
 The fact that 20% of the features of MS Office (and by implication, LO 
 and OO.o) used almost exclusively by some 80% of the users suggests to 
 me that OO.o should identify that 20% of features and modularize OO.o or 
 LO or what have you to include that 20% and make the other 80% of the 
 features available as extensions.
 

I think you will actually find individuals use about 20 - 25% of the
features regularly but I think you will find there is very little
overlap. This means that LO needs to cover about 75 - 85% of the
features as a minimum to cover the user base. You will find users who
will use one or two components almost exclusively and very rarely use
the others. For example I use Writer and Calc extensively, Base
occasionally, and almost never use Impress or Draw. 

 I'd like comments on this idea.
 
 David Teague
 
 -- 
 nil significat nisi oscillat
 
 



-- 
Jay Lozier
jsloz...@gmail.com

-- 
For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted


Re: Fwd: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice-Base CPU usage

2011-09-17 Thread planas
Hi,
On Sat, 2011-09-17 at 23:30 +0100, Tom Davies wrote: 

 Hi :)
 Thanks Don.  I think you might be able to convert/export/migrate your 
 back-end to a different one.  I don't think you have to stick with HSql.  I'm 
 not sure if it's possible to remove java dependence when using HSql, i 
 thought it was but i could be wrong.
 Regards from
 Tom :)
 
 
 --- On Sat, 17/9/11, Don Myers donmy...@myersfarm.com wrote:
 
 From: Don Myers donmy...@myersfarm.com
 Subject: Re: Fwd: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice-Base CPU usage
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Date: Saturday, 17 September, 2011, 23:13
 
 Hi All,
 
 I set up base shortly after it was added to Open Office. Apparently I am 
 using the embedded database - HSQL database engine. If I turn off Java 
 (I just tried it.), I get the following error message:
 The connection to the data source RE Database could not be 
 established. No SDBC driver was found for the given URL.
 
 I cannot open my database without Java enabled. So using the database 
 included with base will not work without Java.
 
 Don

snip

The HSQL engine is Java based. It may be possible to use Base as a
front-end for something like MySQL or PostgreSQL, which do not use Java.


 On 09/17/2011 08:29 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
  Hi :)
  I think you can completely un-install all instances of java but i think 
  that might create problems.  Your web-browser might not be very happy 
  without java.  Generally i try to keep escape routes and back-up plans 
  available = so i would just switch off java in LO so that i could switch it 
  on again quite easily if i needed it.
 
  Tools - Options - LibreOffice/General - Java
  then UNtick the box at the very top Use a java runtime environment.  I 
  have only unticked this a few days ago and LO seems to start-up a lot 
  faster.
  Regards from
  Tom :)
 
  --- On Sat, 17/9/11, Heinrich Stoellingerhc.stoellin...@aon.at  wrote:
 
  From: Heinrich Stoellingerhc.stoellin...@aon.at
  Subject: Fwd: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice-Base CPU usage
  To: users@global.libreoffice.orgusers@global.libreoffice.org
  Date: Saturday, 17 September, 2011, 11:55
 
  Hello again,
  Is there a misunderstanding somewhere? As I said, I use the ODBC-connection
  to MySQL on Linux (and a very well working native MySQL-connection under
  Windows). Like I posted in another message, ODBC also has problems (such
  as not showing default values for columns correctly on data entry, but -
  since the database is actually updated correctly - this doesn't really
  worry me much.
  So, like Tom suggests: can I get completely rid of Java if I don't
  conciously use it in any way that an end-user or programmer could cause?
  That would be more than alright for me...
  Regards
  H. Stoellinger (from a lovely early autumn sunny day here in Salzburg)
  P.S.: I have used the Java-connector in the past but don't do so anymore.
 
 
  --- Forwarded message ---
  From: Andreas Sägerville...@t-online.de
  To: users@global.libreoffice.org
  Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice-Base CPU usage
  Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 11:35:28 +0200
 
  Since you are not running MySQL through ODBC you can turn off all Java
  support for the entire office suite and simply work with the raw
  database connectivity and input forms.
  All the Java wizards are close to useless anyway. You don't need them
  and get much better results faster if you know what you're doing.
 
 
 
  Am 16.09.2011 20:44, Heinrich Stoellinger wrote:
  Hello again,
  On my Linux/LO 3.4.3 system, after some time of working with Base (ODBC
  connetcion
  to MySQL), LO uses 90 to 100 p.c. of one of the 4 CPUs of my PC. When I
  then save
  LO-Base, CPU-usage is normal again (for a while!). I don't really know
  what causes
  this behaviour, could it have to to with backup copy creation? I find an
  aweful
  lot of backup files in /home/rainermusik/.libreoffice/3/user/backup.
  All of them have a filename something like rmodbc.odb_9777.odb and are
  of 0 (zero)
  size. I wonder what's wrong.
  Regards
  H. Stoellinger
 
 
  --Erstellt mit Operas revolutionärem E-Mail-Modul: 
  http://www.opera.com/mail/
 
  --For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org
  Problems? 
  http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
  Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
  List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/
  All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be 
  deleted
 
 
 
 -- 
 
 *~~*
 Don C. Myers
 e-PRO Certified by the National Association of Realtors
 Manager, Farm and Rural Property Division
 *Coldwell Banker University Realty
 *126 East Foster Avenue, State College, PA 16801
 Phone: 814-237-6543 Fax: 814-237-6502
 Visit the Farm and Rural Property Division Website at 
 www.cbur-ruralproperty.com http://www.cbur-ruralproperty.com/_
 _View