Re: [libreoffice-users] Indendet paragraphs with names, hints or comments at the left side?
Hello, On Tue, 15 Aug 2017 20:01:16 +0200 Gabriele Ponzo <gpo...@gmail.com> wrote: > Anyway the idea of customizing list to have a name for each level is > really interesting indeed. > > In that way you could just switch among people with tabulations and > avoid to write their names every time. > > I hope to remember it when I'll have some time to test it! I tried this but got strange behaviour: First, I cannot make the tabbing stay at place, i.e. for later names the indention ist farther Second, I cannot delete a list point with the backspace key (markation still works) Further fiddling just destroyed all normal behaviour However, ten levels are too few for a storyboard regards, --------- Dennis Heuer e...@verschwendbare-verweise.seinswende.de -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Indendet paragraphs with names, hints or comments at the left side?
Hello, On Tue, 15 Aug 2017 15:41:14 +0200 Ricardo Berlasso <rgb.m...@gmail.com> wrote: > You can always define tab stops on a paragraph style level. The > "trick" goes like this: > > 1- Define a paragraph style with "space before" at, say, 3cm, a > negative indent of -3cm (both under Space and and indenting) and a > left aligned tab stop at 3cm (under Tabs) > > 2- On a paragraph with that style applied, type the Name, press tab > (only once) and start typing :) You'll get something like this > > https://elpinguinotolkiano.files.wordpress.com/2016/12/tab-tabla.png > > Each time you start a new paragraph you only need one tab stop to get > the text aligned to the desired "margin". > > Regards, > Ricardo I tried this, and it works nice even with -. However, when (and only) the first line breaks, the whole paragraph slips two lines below the name regards, - Dennis Heuer e...@verschwendbare-verweise.seinswende.de -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Indendet paragraphs with names, hints or comments at the left side?
Hello, On Tue, 15 Aug 2017 15:57:08 +0200 Regina Henschel <rb.hensc...@t-online.de> wrote: > Hi Dennis, > > I suggest to use lists. Define for each person a numbering style. Set > the "before" field to the name of the person and the "after" field to > a colon for example. You can set the numbering itself to "none". Or > you keep the numbering - in case you need to refer to paragraphs. > > If you name the style the same as the person, you can easily manage > then. The way lists are rendered give you the needed indentation > automatically, you only need to apply the respective list to the text > of the person. > > Kind regards > Regina Well, the whole templating is cumbersome and even weird. For example, I cannot first define a generic type to later inherit defaults from it because the dialog doesn't show me list details – only paragraph details. The only provided way to configure list details is to edit the source type, and that I definetely don't want. I have to define the generic type, then use it and then open the list dialog and then configure the list details. However, inheriting from it causes the same problem for the named type, i.e. I have to use the list to be able to set the proper name. When I define a second named type, the same problem appears. But when I change the properties for it, LibreOffice even changes all lists already existing in the document, no matter what type they belong to... I'm pissed by this mess... Go to sleep... - Dennis Heuer e...@verschwendbare-verweise.seinswende.de -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Indendet paragraphs with names, hints or comments at the left side?
Hello, and many thanks! On Wed, 16 Aug 2017 00:53:18 +0200 Gabriele Ponzo <gpo...@gmail.com> wrote: > Indeed this is the right and canonical way to do that (as I use to > teach :) You're right! Today it works. I guess that I managed to misconfigure something else with some definitely buggy side-effect. For example, this time I had a line with "default style" left below my part with the "new style". I sucked it up with the delete key so that never anymore LibreOffice showed "default style" in the toolbar. However, even though it showed "new style", the tabs and the indention were gone for that line. A second markation as "new style" did correct this issue. I found tons of those bugs everywhere. Quite messy state LibreOffice is into However, many thanks! You made my day! ----- Dennis Heuer e...@verschwendbare-verweise.seinswende.de -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Indendet paragraphs with names, hints or comments at the left side?
Hello, On Wed, 16 Aug 2017 00:50:14 +0200 Regina Henschel <rb.hensc...@t-online.de> wrote: > Hi Dennis, > > > > > Second, I cannot delete a list point with the backspace key > > (markation still works) > > Using backspace means, that you get a further paragraph, which > belongs to the same list item. In my suggestion it would mean, that a > person can have two adjacent paragraphs with the same indent, without > repeating the name. using backspace twice normally leads to the end of the previous list item. But in my case, I was just stuck. The current list item just didn't disappear... > > > > Further fiddling just destroyed all normal behaviour > > > > However, ten levels are too few for a storyboard > > How many persons do you need? Depending on the project. Think of a movie with lots of secondary actors like "customer1..., or zombie1... (in some movies they speak)"... > > Kind regards > Regina > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: > http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent > to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted - Dennis Heuer e...@verschwendbare-verweise.seinswende.de -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Indendet paragraphs with names, hints or comments at the left side?
Hello, I am trying to write a protocol- or storyboard-alike document in which the paragraphs are indented and a name is put before the paragraphs (like a bulletin list with a text-field instead of the bullet.) I tried several ways to make this work without using cumbersome tables... Actually I'd want indentions to be remembered across linebreaks. and - would hop over the division borders forth and back. That would be easiest to use... ...Is there another way? At the moment I use tabs and push every new line to proper position. But changing the text means reformating it :( regards, - Dennis Heuer e...@verschwendbare-verweise.seinswende.de -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] How to turn a paragraph into a cross-reference/link
Hello, On Sat, 19 Aug 2017 06:16:10 +0100 Brian Barker <b.m.bar...@btinternet.com> wrote: > At 16:21 18/08/2017 +0200, Dennis Heuer wrote: > >I seek for a way to mark a text block (including indentations, > >images and what is in there) and turn it into a cross reference - > >without it getting substituted with a link name or a page number or > >the like. > > I think you just need not a cross-reference but a hyperlink. You will > see that a hyperlink can be to a different part of the same document > or another document, not just to a web address. You can link to > tables, frames, graphics, OLE objects, sections, headings, or > bookmarks. > > I trust this helps. > > Brian Barker > The hyperlink dialog expects a name for the hyperlink that substitutes the original text block. How can I do it different? regards, ----- Dennis Heuer e...@verschwendbare-verweise.seinswende.de -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] How to rename headers for the cross-reference list
Hello, I have numbered chapters, formatted as headers, and these headers are provided automatically in the cross-reference list. I use this feature for a self-brewn index. But also the PDF-Viewer seems to recon these entries and provides them as document index automatically. That's ok with me, even though I'd like to have more control over this, but the names were autogenerated by LibreOffice (just taking the header content an dropping spaces and tabs) and read awkward. I want to change them, as also not all of the header should be in the reference name. How can I change these entry names in the cross-reference list? Regards, - Dennis Heuer e...@verschwendbare-verweise.seinswende.de -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] How to turn a paragraph into a cross-reference/link
On Sat, 19 Aug 2017 14:48:04 +0200 Jean-Baptiste Faure <jbfa...@libreoffice.org> wrote: > Le 19/08/2017 à 13:18, Dennis Heuer a écrit : > > [...] > > The hyperlink dialog expects a name for the hyperlink that > > substitutes the original text block. How can I do it different? > > Select the text block, then ctrl+K to create the link > > Best regards. > JBF There just needs to be a tabulator space in the selection, and the hyperlink rewrites the selection. Definitely, for my case, the hyperlink mechanisms ain't work... Regards, ----- Dennis Heuer e...@verschwendbare-verweise.seinswende.de -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] How to turn a paragraph into a cross-reference/link
On Sat, 19 Aug 2017 17:25:36 +0100 Brian Barker <b.m.bar...@btinternet.com> wrote: > > > >The hyperlink dialog expects a name for the hyperlink that > >substitutes the original text block. How can I do it different? > > Try not giving it a name. > > Brian Barker Then it substitutes with the target name. There just needs to be a tabulator space in the selection, and the hyperlink rewrites the selection. Definitely, the hyperlink mechanism won't do... Regards, --------- Dennis Heuer e...@verschwendbare-verweise.seinswende.de -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] How to turn a paragraph into a cross-reference/link
On Sat, 19 Aug 2017 14:35:21 +0200 Regina Henschel <rb.hensc...@t-online.de> wrote: > Hi Dennis, > > why do you need, that the entire block of text becomes a link? Do I > understand it correctly, that when clicking _somewhere_ in the block, > LO should switch to a different part of the document? Read my message again. Therein is mentioned an example use-case. This behaviour (link on div) is actually very very common on internet and very very useful if the link info is heterogenuous (and thus it would be cumbersome to find out what is clickable or to always target at a different (and maybe small) location in an order of heterogenuous list entries.) > The problem is, that the element, which is needed to define > the click-sensitive area, is only allowed inside a paragraph and > therefore cannot contain multiple paragraphs. It even cannot include a tabulator space whithout replacing the selection. This is a very bad restriction. The true problem is that LibreOffice is only expecting explanatory text snippets for hyperlink names while in HTML the hyperlink very quickly turned into a universal attribute of a semantic division. The latter is far more helpful... > Kind regards > Regina > > Dennis Heuer schrieb: > > Hello, > > > > I seek for a way to mark a text block (including indentions, images > > and what is in there) and turn it into a cross reference - without > > it getting substituted with a link name or a page number or the > > like. I want it just as you find it in internet-shops: There is an > > article entry, with header, text, image and price tag, and you can > > click on the whole block (division in HTML)) > > > > regards > > - > > Dennis Heuer > > e...@verschwendbare-verweise.seinswende.de > > > > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: > http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent > to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted Regards, - Dennis Heuer e...@verschwendbare-verweise.seinswende.de -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] How to turn a paragraph into a cross-reference/link
On Sun, 20 Aug 2017 04:47:30 +0100 Brian Barker <b.m.bar...@btinternet.com> wrote: > At 01:27 20/08/2017 +0200, Dennis Heuer wrote: > >On Sat, 19 Aug 2017 17:25:36 +0100 Brian Barker > ><b.m.bar...@btinternet.com> wrote: > >>>The hyperlink dialog expects a name for the hyperlink that > >>>substitutes the original text block. How can I do it different? > >> > >>Try not giving it a name. > > > >Then it substitutes with the target name. > > Er, not for me, it doesn't. > > >There just needs to be a tabulator space in the selection, and the > >hyperlink rewrites the selection. > > It seems that you can avoid this by creating the hyperlink for the > text without the tab and inserting the tab afterwards. Indeed, it > seems that as long as you have a minimum of two characters in your > paragraph you can create the hyperlink and then add to the paragraph > between those end characters as you wish - without upsetting the > hyperlink. > > >Definitely, the hyperlink mechanism won't do... > > You are welcome to give up, but I haven't. You said originally that > you wanted to include images, and a way to do that - as someone has > already suggested - is to create identical hyperlinks for them > separately. > > Brian Barker > I hope that you can already imagine what I mean with "cumbersome"... - Dennis Heuer e...@verschwendbare-verweise.seinswende.de -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] How to rename headings in the cross-reference list
Do not wonder! This is the corrected text to the incorrect mail with wrong subject... Hello, I have numbered chapters, treated as headings, and these headings are provided automatically in the cross-reference list. I use this feature for a self-brewn index. But also the PDF-Viewer seems to recon these entries and provides them as document index automatically. That's ok with me, even though I'd like to have more control over this, but the names were autogenerated by LibreOffice (just taking the content of the heading an dropping spaces and tabs) and read awkward. I want to change them, as also not all of the heading should be in the reference name. How can I change these entry names in the cross-reference list? Regards, - Dennis Heuer e...@verschwendbare-verweise.seinswende.de -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] How to turn a paragraph into a cross-reference/link
Hello, I seek for a way to mark a text block (including indentions, images and what is in there) and turn it into a cross reference - without it getting substituted with a link name or a page number or the like. I want it just as you find it in internet-shops: There is an article entry, with header, text, image and price tag, and you can click on the whole block (division in HTML)) regards - Dennis Heuer e...@verschwendbare-verweise.seinswende.de -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] left adjusted last lines in 'd justified paragraphs???
Hello, I don't come clear with LibreOffice. No matter what I try, I end in a paragraph - as paragraphs are kind of swiss-knives in LibreOffice. However, the rules to the paragraph element are classic and not helpful. For example, I inserted a line-break into a list entry. The text was justified. The rule was that the last line stays left-adjusted. However, the line-break is only visually shifting text. In result, the visual text block below the line-break ist left-adjusted at the last line but the text block atop the line-break is stretched. What can I do??? Regards, - Dennis Heuer e...@verschwendbare-verweise.seinswende.de -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] How to turn a paragraph into a cross-reference/link
On Mon, 21 Aug 2017 01:09:17 +0100 Brian Barker <b.m.bar...@btinternet.com> wrote: > At 15:18 20/08/2017 +0200, Dennis Heuer wrote: > >On Sun, 20 Aug 2017 04:47:30 +0100 Brian Barker wrote: > >>You are welcome to give up, but I haven't. You said originally that > >>you wanted to include images, and a way to do that - as someone has > >>already suggested - is to create identical hyperlinks for them > >>separately. > > > >I hope that you can already imagine what I mean with "cumbersome"... > > I'd suggest discussing this over coffee, but you wouldn't like my > "cumbersome" flat, as when I come home I need to switch on the lights > in each room separately! And then you're done, I guess. Now consider clonig this flat for a flat-index, and possibly manipulating the clones ;) nevertheless... > (Actually, I think you used the word "cumbersome" only in enquiry on > an entirely separate subject.) > > Brian Barker > > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: > http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent > to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted > - Dennis Heuer e...@verschwendbare-verweise.seinswende.de -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] How to turn a paragraph into a cross-reference/link
Hello Regina,
thank you very much for the detailed explanation
On Sun, 20 Aug 2017 16:44:57 +0200
Regina Henschel <rb.hensc...@t-online.de> wrote:
> Are you sure, a text document is the right medium for your purpose?
Yes, at least in the 21th Millenium ;) I can leave out the image but
still there was the problem with tabs, as my index-list-entry-headings
are annotated ("inside"/"outside" and Dayphase) and span'ed with dots,
and this part is the longer and better clickable part (In a storyboard
often you have headings like "Bus", "Loo", "Off" or even shorter :)
> Kind regards
> Regina
Regards,
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