Re: [libreoffice-users] Unwanted Alternative Image Names

2017-07-27 Thread gordon cooper

Hi Regina and Philip,

  Thanks for the replies, I now know 
where to look.

MX is based on Debian and has similarities to Ubuntu.  Did scan through
/usr/share/Libre Office/  without success but will try again. Also see that
a bug report has gone.

Regards,
Gordon.



On 28/07/17 00:56, Philip Jackson wrote:

Hi Gordon,

I know you're not using Ubuntu but quite often the various distributions
use similar installations.


On 27/07/17 11:36, Regina Henschel wrote:

   You referred to possibly editing the

filter. I could not find your reference '/share/XSLT/
export/xhtml.  Where do I start looking for this, in Libre Office, or
where?

In the folder, where LibreOffice is installed.

In my linux, it is here :

/usr/lib/libreoffice/share/xslt/export/

otherwise try, in a terminal, 'which libreoffice' (without the quotes)
and track it down from there.

hth
Philip





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Re: [libreoffice-users] Unwanted Alternative Image Names

2017-07-27 Thread Philip Jackson
Hi Gordon,

I know you're not using Ubuntu but quite often the various distributions
use similar installations.


On 27/07/17 11:36, Regina Henschel wrote:
>   You referred to possibly editing the
>> filter. I could not find your reference '/share/XSLT/
>> export/xhtml.  Where do I start looking for this, in Libre Office, or
>> where?
> 
> In the folder, where LibreOffice is installed.

In my linux, it is here :

/usr/lib/libreoffice/share/xslt/export/

otherwise try, in a terminal, 'which libreoffice' (without the quotes)
and track it down from there.

hth
Philip


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Unwanted Alternative Image Names

2017-07-27 Thread Regina Henschel

Hi Gordon,

gordon cooper schrieb:

Hi Regina,
  I expect that you may have read the later postings
from myself
on this issue and have seen that I have worked around the problem. The
information appearing in the Alternative (Text only} line was there when
the Open Document files had been created by pasting from html but does
appear when we are inserting images straight into Libre Office.

Am interested in your information about filtering and XSLT, but having
never before worked with editing and conversions in XML, have spent
time today reading about them.


Then it will be hard for you. I'm in a similar situation, otherwise I 
would have made a fix.


  You referred to possibly editing the

filter. I could not find your reference '/share/XSLT/
export/xhtml.  Where do I start looking for this, in Libre Office, or
where?


In the folder, where LibreOffice is installed.



Am not familiar with LO 6.0., presently working in 5.2.6.2 which is the
version currently available from the repositories for MX-Linux, the OS
that is described in the Manual currently being edited and displaying
of our Alternative Name problem.


The version doesn't matter. It is an old bug, inherited from OpenOffice.



I will attend to the bug report.


I have written a bug report for it. It is 
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=109334


Kind regards
Regina



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Unwanted Alternative Image Names

2017-07-27 Thread gordon cooper

Hi Regina,
  I expect that you may have read the later postings 
from myself

on this issue and have seen that I have worked around the problem. The
information appearing in the Alternative (Text only} line was there when
the Open Document files had been created by pasting from html but does
appear when we are inserting images straight into Libre Office.

Am interested in your information about filtering and XSLT, but having
never before worked with editing and conversions in XML, have spent
time today reading about them.  You referred to possibly editing the
filter. I could not find your reference '/share/XSLT/
export/xhtml.  Where do I start looking for this, in Libre Office, or where?

Am not familiar with LO 6.0., presently working in 5.2.6.2 which is the
version currently available from the repositories for MX-Linux, the OS
that is described in the Manual currently being edited and displaying
of our Alternative Name problem.

I will attend to the bug report.

My thanks for your advice,
Kind regards,
Gordon

Tauranga N.Z.


On 25/07/17 20:37, Regina Henschel wrote:

Hi Gordon,

gordon cooper schrieb:

We are using Libre Office in the writing of technical manuals
where some users make html copies.

Finding that the file names of images are being displayed
beside or below the images in the html versions. Because
all images are given a caption, we do not want the file names too.

 I can remove them by going to each image Properties>Options
and deleting one at a time but this is time consuming when there are
many images - over 100 in one manual.  Is there a setting that can
automatically prevent the file names being displayed?

Have looked through the Help but found nothing, did I overlook it?


I guess you are using File > Export > XHTML. At least with that, I can 
reproduce the problem.


It looks like an error in the XHTML filter. Using an old version of 
the filter, I see both the caption text and the alternative text of 
the picture. Using a new version of the filter (here developer version 
LO 6.0), I see only the alternative text of the picture and no caption 
text at all.


Please write a bug report for the problem.

It is possible to fix the bug without compiling the LO sources. You 
can edit the filter directly. You find the filter in folder>/share/XSLT/export/xhtml. The part body.xsl is relevant here. 
Do you know someone with knowledge in XSLT?


Kind regards
Regina







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Re: [libreoffice-users] Unwanted Alternative Image Names (Resolved)

2017-07-25 Thread gordon cooper
Eureka!!  Many Thanks Robert, that is the clue. The Alternative names 
appeared
because a draft .odt file was created by a copy and paste from an html 
file which
itself was a conversion from Lyx.  The problem is hopefully a "once 
only" but for the
archives and benefit of anyone who may meet this in the future, here is 
a summary.


1. Any text appearing in Libre Office Image 
Properties>Options>Alternative Name does
not appear on screen in a displayed .odt , but will be shown as a 
screen shot, and in a
printed copy, as an image caption in an html export from that .odt 
file.


2. Images inserted into a Libre Office .odt file will not usually create 
an Alternative name,
but if the .odt file has been created by copy and paste from an 
html source, the file
reference for any images in the html (not sure about tables) may be 
saved as an

Alternative name to then appear in an html export.

This situation is unlikely to occur in normal Libre Office usage.

Thanks again Robert,

Gordon.






On 25/07/17 13:11, Robert Funnell wrote:

Gordon -

Yes, I see that indeed my Alternative names are blank, which 
apparently is the default when a new image is inserted. How did you 
create your .odt files? Manually? Or by some sort of conversion from 
another format that defined the Alternative names?


- Robert


On Tue, 25 Jul 2017, gordon cooper wrote:




On 25/07/17 12:29, Robert Funnell wrote:

 Gordon -

 I just opened a .odt document with captioned images in LO 5.0, did
File >  Export and selected XHTML. (I don't see a separate HTML
 option.) When I view the resulting file in my Web browser, a lot of 
things
 aren't right but the images appear with their captions and no 
filenames.

 Am I not doing the same thing as you're doing?

 - Robert

 Robert,
 You are correct with the XHTML selection - the smaller 
print on that line indicates
  the selection is correct for html and xhtml.  If you 
secondary click on the image
  and select Properties>Options,  the popup shows (in my 
case) the name of the image
  and immediately  below, a line for Alternative name 
which is displaying the file name
  of the image. it is this filename that appears in the 
html exports. The fix is to go
  to each image Properties and delete whatever is showing 
in the Alternative name

   line.
Gordon.



 On Mon, 24 Jul 2017, gordon cooper wrote:

>  Hi Steve,
>Yes it is satisfactory, it is only the display of 
the >  image file names that is
>  a relatively small nuisance. I can get rid of them by editing 
properties >  for each
>  image, so asked to see if there was a setting that would remove 
them for >  the
>  whole file. Have also had to look at table properties to ensure 
that >  framing lines
>  appeared in the html.  HTML also has an advantage in that some 
software >  language
>  translation programmes, e.g. Googletranslate,  will preserve the 
>  formatting, even

>  if some of the phrasing and syntax needs correcting.
> >  Gordon.
> > >  On 25/07/17 11:29, Steve Edmonds wrote:
> >   Hi.
> >   Is the HTML format satisfactory in all other aspects for your 
needs.
> >   I had to correct the HTML in tables exported by writer so am 
now wary

> >   about using it for HTML export.
> >   steve
> > > >   On 25/07/17 08:20, gordon cooper wrote:
> > > > >   On 25/07/17 03:07, leleu wrote:
> > > >   Did you try to deliver these manuals as pdf ? /
> > > >   /
> > >   /Have been delivering in pdf and html for a couple of years, 
and > > using >   Lyx for//
> > >   //authoring/editing.  Open Doc. has been used for 
translations > > mainly >   because//
> > >   //it was preferred by the translators. Decided recently to 
use > >  LO for >  authoring//
> > >   //and delivery so that users can make copies in their 
preferred > >  format. >  For both//

> > >   //pdf and html have using LO's export function: //
> > >   //File>Export as PDF
> > >   or//
> > >   //File>Export>All formats>html//
> > >   //
> > >   //The unwanted alternative text only appears on the html 
exports./

> > > >   Gordon.
> > > > > > > >   How do the users copy to html? Using the LO menu 
"Save > >  as"? or > >  selectng, then "Edition>Copy" .?

> > > > > >   Je la 24/07/2017 16:48, anne-ology skribis :
> > > > >   From my experience,
> > > > >  I would say you've uncovered a 'bug' since 
the > >  name of > > > the image

> > > > >   should only appear if the image cannot for some reason.
> > > > > > > >   Here's hoping you can find a solution anon,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >  From: gordon cooper > > 


> > > > >   Date: Sun, Jul 23, 2017 at 5:23 PM
> > > > >   Subject: [libreoffice-users] Unwanted Alternative Image 
Names

> > > > >   To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> > > > > > > > > > >   We are using Libre Office in the writing of 
> >  technical manuals

> > > > >   

Re: [libreoffice-users] Unwanted Alternative Image Names

2017-07-25 Thread Regina Henschel

Hi Gordon,

gordon cooper schrieb:

We are using Libre Office in the writing of technical manuals
where some users make html copies.

Finding that the file names of images are being displayed
beside or below the images in the html versions. Because
all images are given a caption, we do not want the file names too.

 I can remove them by going to each image Properties>Options
and deleting one at a time but this is time consuming when there are
many images - over 100 in one manual.  Is there a setting that can
automatically prevent the file names being displayed?

Have looked through the Help but found nothing, did I overlook it?


I guess you are using File > Export > XHTML. At least with that, I can 
reproduce the problem.


It looks like an error in the XHTML filter. Using an old version of the 
filter, I see both the caption text and the alternative text of the 
picture. Using a new version of the filter (here developer version LO 
6.0), I see only the alternative text of the picture and no caption text 
at all.


Please write a bug report for the problem.

It is possible to fix the bug without compiling the LO sources. You can 
edit the filter directly. You find the filter in folder>/share/XSLT/export/xhtml. The part body.xsl is relevant here. Do 
you know someone with knowledge in XSLT?


Kind regards
Regina




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Unwanted Alternative Image Names

2017-07-24 Thread Robert Funnell

Gordon -

I just opened a .odt document with captioned images in LO 5.0, did
File > Export and selected XHTML. (I don't see a separate HTML 
option.) When I view the resulting file in my Web browser, a lot of 
things aren't right but the images appear with their captions and no 
filenames. Am I not doing the same thing as you're doing?


- Robert


On Mon, 24 Jul 2017, gordon cooper wrote:


Hi Steve,
  Yes it is satisfactory, it is only the display of the image 
file names that is
a relatively small nuisance. I can get rid of them by editing properties for 
each

image, so asked to see if there was a setting that would remove them for the
whole file. Have also had to look at table properties to ensure that framing 
lines
appeared in the html.  HTML also has an advantage in that some software 
language
translation programmes, e.g. Googletranslate,  will preserve the formatting, 
even

if some of the phrasing and syntax needs correcting.

Gordon.


On 25/07/17 11:29, Steve Edmonds wrote:

 Hi.
 Is the HTML format satisfactory in all other aspects for your needs.
 I had to correct the HTML in tables exported by writer so am now wary
 about using it for HTML export.
 steve

 On 25/07/17 08:20, gordon cooper wrote:
> 
> 
>  On 25/07/17 03:07, leleu wrote:

> >  Did you try to deliver these manuals as pdf ? /
> >  /
>  /Have been delivering in pdf and html for a couple of years, and using 
>  Lyx for//
>  //authoring/editing.  Open Doc. has been used for translations mainly 
>  because//
>  //it was preferred by the translators.  Decided recently to use LO for 
>  authoring//
>  //and delivery so that users can make copies in their preferred format. 
>  For both//

>  //pdf and html have using LO's export function: //
>  //File>Export as PDF
>  or//
>  //File>Export>All formats>html//
>  //
>  //The unwanted alternative text only appears on the html exports./
> 
>  Gordon.
> 
> 
> > 
> >  How do the users copy to html? Using the LO menu "Save as"? or 
> >  selectng, then "Edition>Copy" .?
> > 
> >  Je la 24/07/2017 16:48, anne-ology skribis :

> > >  From my experience,
> > > I would say you've uncovered a 'bug' since the name of 
> > >  the image

> > >  should only appear if the image cannot for some reason.
> > > 
> > >  Here's hoping you can find a solution anon,
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  From: gordon cooper 

> > >  Date: Sun, Jul 23, 2017 at 5:23 PM
> > >  Subject: [libreoffice-users] Unwanted Alternative Image Names
> > >  To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  We are using Libre Office in the writing of technical manuals

> > >  where some users make html copies.
> > > 
> > >  Finding that the file names of images are being displayed

> > >  beside or below the images in the html versions. Because
> > >  all images are given a caption, we do not want the file names too.
> > > 
> > >I can remove them by going to each image Properties>Options

> > >  and deleting one at a time but this is time consuming when there are
> > >  many images - over 100 in one manual.  Is there a setting that can
> > >  automatically prevent the file names being displayed?
> > > 
> > >  Have looked through the Help but found nothing, did I overlook it?
> > > 
> > >  Gordon

> > >  Tauranga N.Z.
> > >


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Unwanted Alternative Image Names

2017-07-24 Thread Robert Funnell

Gordon -

Yes, I see that indeed my Alternative names are blank, which 
apparently is the default when a new image is inserted. How did you 
create your .odt files? Manually? Or by some sort of conversion from 
another format that defined the Alternative names?


- Robert


On Tue, 25 Jul 2017, gordon cooper wrote:




On 25/07/17 12:29, Robert Funnell wrote:

 Gordon -

 I just opened a .odt document with captioned images in LO 5.0, did
File >  Export and selected XHTML. (I don't see a separate HTML
 option.) When I view the resulting file in my Web browser, a lot of things
 aren't right but the images appear with their captions and no filenames.
 Am I not doing the same thing as you're doing?

 - Robert

 Robert,
 You are correct with the XHTML selection - the smaller print on 
that line indicates
  the selection is correct for html and xhtml.  If you secondary 
click on the image
  and select Properties>Options,  the popup shows (in my case) 
the name of the image
  and immediately  below, a line for Alternative name which is 
displaying the file name
  of the image. it is this filename that appears in the html 
exports. The fix is to go
  to each image Properties and delete whatever is showing in the 
Alternative name

   line.
Gordon.



 On Mon, 24 Jul 2017, gordon cooper wrote:

>  Hi Steve,
>Yes it is satisfactory, it is only the display of the 
>  image file names that is
>  a relatively small nuisance. I can get rid of them by editing properties 
>  for each
>  image, so asked to see if there was a setting that would remove them for 
>  the
>  whole file. Have also had to look at table properties to ensure that 
>  framing lines
>  appeared in the html.  HTML also has an advantage in that some software 
>  language
>  translation programmes, e.g. Googletranslate,  will preserve the 
>  formatting, even

>  if some of the phrasing and syntax needs correcting.
> 
>  Gordon.
> 
> 
>  On 25/07/17 11:29, Steve Edmonds wrote:

> >   Hi.
> >   Is the HTML format satisfactory in all other aspects for your needs.
> >   I had to correct the HTML in tables exported by writer so am now wary
> >   about using it for HTML export.
> >   steve
> > 
> >   On 25/07/17 08:20, gordon cooper wrote:

> > > > >   On 25/07/17 03:07, leleu wrote:
> > > >   Did you try to deliver these manuals as pdf ? /
> > > >   /
> > >   /Have been delivering in pdf and html for a couple of years, and 
> > using >   Lyx for//
> > >   //authoring/editing.  Open Doc. has been used for translations 
> > mainly >   because//
> > >   //it was preferred by the translators.  Decided recently to use 
> >  LO for >  authoring//
> > >   //and delivery so that users can make copies in their preferred 
> >  format. >  For both//

> > >   //pdf and html have using LO's export function: //
> > >   //File>Export as PDF
> > >   or//
> > >   //File>Export>All formats>html//
> > >   //
> > >   //The unwanted alternative text only appears on the html exports./
> > > >   Gordon.
> > > > > > > >   How do the users copy to html? Using the LO menu "Save 
> >  as"? or > >  selectng, then "Edition>Copy" .?

> > > > > >   Je la 24/07/2017 16:48, anne-ology skribis :
> > > > >   From my experience,
> > > > >  I would say you've uncovered a 'bug' since the 
> >  name of > > >  the image

> > > > >   should only appear if the image cannot for some reason.
> > > > > > > >   Here's hoping you can find a solution anon,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >  From: gordon cooper 
> >  

> > > > >   Date: Sun, Jul 23, 2017 at 5:23 PM
> > > > >   Subject: [libreoffice-users] Unwanted Alternative Image Names
> > > > >   To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> > > > > > > > > > >   We are using Libre Office in the writing of 
> >  technical manuals

> > > > >   where some users make html copies.
> > > > > > > >   Finding that the file names of images are being displayed
> > > > >   beside or below the images in the html versions. Because
> > > > >   all images are given a caption, we do not want the file names 
> >  too.
> > > > > > > > I can remove them by going to each image 
> > Properties> Options
> > > > >   and deleting one at a time but this is time consuming when 
> >  there are
> > > > >   many images - over 100 in one manual.  Is there a setting 
> >  that can

> > > > >   automatically prevent the file names being displayed?
> > > > > > > >   Have looked through the Help but found nothing, did I 
> >  overlook it?

> > > > > > > >   Gordon
> > > > >   Tauranga N.Z.
> > > > >


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Unwanted Alternative Image Names

2017-07-24 Thread gordon cooper



On 25/07/17 12:29, Robert Funnell wrote:

Gordon -

I just opened a .odt document with captioned images in LO 5.0, did
File > Export and selected XHTML. (I don't see a separate HTML 
option.) When I view the resulting file in my Web browser, a lot of 
things aren't right but the images appear with their captions and no 
filenames. Am I not doing the same thing as you're doing?


- Robert

 Robert,
  You are correct with the XHTML selection - the smaller 
print on that line indicates
   the selection is correct for html and xhtml.  If you 
secondary click on the image
   and select Properties>Options,  the popup shows (in my 
case) the name of the image
   and immediately  below, a line for Alternative name 
which is displaying the file name
   of the image. it is this filename that appears in the 
html exports. The fix is to go
   to each image Properties and delete whatever is showing 
in the Alternative name

   line.
Gordon.



On Mon, 24 Jul 2017, gordon cooper wrote:


Hi Steve,
  Yes it is satisfactory, it is only the display of the 
image file names that is
a relatively small nuisance. I can get rid of them by editing 
properties for each
image, so asked to see if there was a setting that would remove them 
for the
whole file. Have also had to look at table properties to ensure that 
framing lines
appeared in the html.  HTML also has an advantage in that some 
software language
translation programmes, e.g. Googletranslate,  will preserve the 
formatting, even

if some of the phrasing and syntax needs correcting.

Gordon.


On 25/07/17 11:29, Steve Edmonds wrote:

 Hi.
 Is the HTML format satisfactory in all other aspects for your needs.
 I had to correct the HTML in tables exported by writer so am now wary
 about using it for HTML export.
 steve

 On 25/07/17 08:20, gordon cooper wrote:
> > >  On 25/07/17 03:07, leleu wrote:
> >  Did you try to deliver these manuals as pdf ? /
> >  /
>  /Have been delivering in pdf and html for a couple of years, and 
using >  Lyx for//
>  //authoring/editing.  Open Doc. has been used for translations 
mainly >  because//
>  //it was preferred by the translators.  Decided recently to use 
LO for >  authoring//
>  //and delivery so that users can make copies in their preferred 
format. >  For both//

>  //pdf and html have using LO's export function: //
>  //File>Export as PDF
>  or//
>  //File>Export>All formats>html//
>  //
>  //The unwanted alternative text only appears on the html exports./
> >  Gordon.
> > > > > >  How do the users copy to html? Using the LO menu "Save 
as"? or > >  selectng, then "Edition>Copy" .?

> > > >  Je la 24/07/2017 16:48, anne-ology skribis :
> > >  From my experience,
> > > I would say you've uncovered a 'bug' since the 
name of > > >  the image

> > >  should only appear if the image cannot for some reason.
> > > > > >  Here's hoping you can find a solution anon,
> > > > > > > > > > > > From: gordon cooper 


> > >  Date: Sun, Jul 23, 2017 at 5:23 PM
> > >  Subject: [libreoffice-users] Unwanted Alternative Image Names
> > >  To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> > > > > > > > >  We are using Libre Office in the writing of 
technical manuals

> > >  where some users make html copies.
> > > > > >  Finding that the file names of images are being displayed
> > >  beside or below the images in the html versions. Because
> > >  all images are given a caption, we do not want the file names 
too.
> > > > > >I can remove them by going to each image 
Properties>Options
> > >  and deleting one at a time but this is time consuming when 
there are
> > >  many images - over 100 in one manual.  Is there a setting 
that can

> > >  automatically prevent the file names being displayed?
> > > > > >  Have looked through the Help but found nothing, did I 
overlook it?

> > > > > >  Gordon
> > >  Tauranga N.Z.
> > >





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Re: [libreoffice-users] Unwanted Alternative Image Names

2017-07-24 Thread Steve Edmonds

Hi Gordon.
The CSS styling in my tables was incorrect and text alignment in merged 
cells was non-existent.
Is there a pattern to the formatting of the unwanted text, could you use 
sed to remove it.

Steve

On 25/07/17 11:52, gordon cooper wrote:

Hi Steve,
   Yes it is satisfactory, it is only the display of the 
image file names that is
a relatively small nuisance. I can get rid of them by editing 
properties for each
image, so asked to see if there was a setting that would remove them 
for the
whole file. Have also had to look at table properties to ensure that 
framing lines
appeared in the html.  HTML also has an advantage in that some 
software language
translation programmes, e.g. Googletranslate,  will preserve the 
formatting, even

if some of the phrasing and syntax needs correcting.

Gordon.


On 25/07/17 11:29, Steve Edmonds wrote:

Hi.
Is the HTML format satisfactory in all other aspects for your needs.
I had to correct the HTML in tables exported by writer so am now wary 
about using it for HTML export.

steve

On 25/07/17 08:20, gordon cooper wrote:



On 25/07/17 03:07, leleu wrote:

Did you try to deliver these manuals as pdf ? /
/
/Have been delivering in pdf and html for a couple of years, and 
using Lyx for//
//authoring/editing.  Open Doc. has been used for translations 
mainly because//
//it was preferred by the translators.  Decided recently to use LO 
for authoring//
//and delivery so that users can make copies in their preferred 
format. For both//

//pdf and html have using LO's export function: //
//File>Export as PDF
or//
//File>Export>All formats>html//
//
//The unwanted alternative text only appears on the html exports./

Gordon.




How do the users copy to html? Using the LO menu "Save as"? or 
selectng, then "Edition>Copy" .?


Je la 24/07/2017 16:48, anne-ology skribis :

From my experience,
   I would say you've uncovered a 'bug' since the name of 
the image

should only appear if the image cannot for some reason.

Here's hoping you can find a solution anon,



From: gordon cooper 
Date: Sun, Jul 23, 2017 at 5:23 PM
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Unwanted Alternative Image Names
To: users@global.libreoffice.org


We are using Libre Office in the writing of technical manuals
where some users make html copies.

Finding that the file names of images are being displayed
beside or below the images in the html versions. Because
all images are given a caption, we do not want the file names too.

  I can remove them by going to each image Properties>Options
and deleting one at a time but this is time consuming when there are
many images - over 100 in one manual.  Is there a setting that can
automatically prevent the file names being displayed?

Have looked through the Help but found nothing, did I overlook it?

Gordon
Tauranga N.Z.















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Re: [libreoffice-users] Unwanted Alternative Image Names

2017-07-24 Thread gordon cooper

Hi Steve,
   Yes it is satisfactory, it is only the display of the 
image file names that is
a relatively small nuisance. I can get rid of them by editing properties 
for each

image, so asked to see if there was a setting that would remove them for the
whole file. Have also had to look at table properties to ensure that 
framing lines
appeared in the html.  HTML also has an advantage in that some software 
language
translation programmes, e.g. Googletranslate,  will preserve the 
formatting, even

if some of the phrasing and syntax needs correcting.

Gordon.


On 25/07/17 11:29, Steve Edmonds wrote:

Hi.
Is the HTML format satisfactory in all other aspects for your needs.
I had to correct the HTML in tables exported by writer so am now wary 
about using it for HTML export.

steve

On 25/07/17 08:20, gordon cooper wrote:



On 25/07/17 03:07, leleu wrote:

Did you try to deliver these manuals as pdf ? /
/
/Have been delivering in pdf and html for a couple of years, and 
using Lyx for//
//authoring/editing.  Open Doc. has been used for translations mainly 
because//
//it was preferred by the translators.  Decided recently to use LO 
for authoring//
//and delivery so that users can make copies in their preferred 
format. For both//

//pdf and html have using LO's export function: //
//File>Export as PDF
or//
//File>Export>All formats>html//
//
//The unwanted alternative text only appears on the html exports./

Gordon.




How do the users copy to html? Using the LO menu "Save as"? or 
selectng, then "Edition>Copy" .?


Je la 24/07/2017 16:48, anne-ology skribis :

From my experience,
   I would say you've uncovered a 'bug' since the name of 
the image

should only appear if the image cannot for some reason.

Here's hoping you can find a solution anon,



From: gordon cooper 
Date: Sun, Jul 23, 2017 at 5:23 PM
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Unwanted Alternative Image Names
To: users@global.libreoffice.org


We are using Libre Office in the writing of technical manuals
where some users make html copies.

Finding that the file names of images are being displayed
beside or below the images in the html versions. Because
all images are given a caption, we do not want the file names too.

  I can remove them by going to each image Properties>Options
and deleting one at a time but this is time consuming when there are
many images - over 100 in one manual.  Is there a setting that can
automatically prevent the file names being displayed?

Have looked through the Help but found nothing, did I overlook it?

Gordon
Tauranga N.Z.












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Re: [libreoffice-users] Unwanted Alternative Image Names

2017-07-24 Thread Steve Edmonds

Hi.
Is the HTML format satisfactory in all other aspects for your needs.
I had to correct the HTML in tables exported by writer so am now wary 
about using it for HTML export.

steve

On 25/07/17 08:20, gordon cooper wrote:



On 25/07/17 03:07, leleu wrote:

Did you try to deliver these manuals as pdf ? /
/
/Have been delivering in pdf and html for a couple of years, and using 
Lyx for//
//authoring/editing.  Open Doc. has been used for translations mainly 
because//
//it was preferred by the translators.  Decided recently to use LO for 
authoring//
//and delivery so that users can make copies in their preferred 
format. For both//

//pdf and html have using LO's export function: //
//File>Export as PDF
or//
//File>Export>All formats>html//
//
//The unwanted alternative text only appears on the html exports./

Gordon.




How do the users copy to html? Using the LO menu "Save as"? or 
selectng, then "Edition>Copy" .?


Je la 24/07/2017 16:48, anne-ology skribis :

From my experience,
   I would say you've uncovered a 'bug' since the name of 
the image

should only appear if the image cannot for some reason.

Here's hoping you can find a solution anon,



From: gordon cooper 
Date: Sun, Jul 23, 2017 at 5:23 PM
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Unwanted Alternative Image Names
To: users@global.libreoffice.org


We are using Libre Office in the writing of technical manuals
where some users make html copies.

Finding that the file names of images are being displayed
beside or below the images in the html versions. Because
all images are given a caption, we do not want the file names too.

  I can remove them by going to each image Properties>Options
and deleting one at a time but this is time consuming when there are
many images - over 100 in one manual.  Is there a setting that can
automatically prevent the file names being displayed?

Have looked through the Help but found nothing, did I overlook it?

Gordon
Tauranga N.Z.









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Re: [libreoffice-users] Unwanted Alternative Image Names

2017-07-24 Thread gordon cooper



On 25/07/17 03:07, leleu wrote:

Did you try to deliver these manuals as pdf ? /
/
/Have been delivering in pdf and html for a couple of years, and using 
Lyx for//
//authoring/editing.  Open Doc. has been used for translations mainly 
because//
//it was preferred by the translators.  Decided recently to use LO for 
authoring//
//and delivery so that users can make copies in their preferred format. 
For both//

//pdf and html have using LO's export function: //
//File>Export as PDF
or//
//File>Export>All formats>html//
//
//The unwanted alternative text only appears on the html exports./

Gordon.




How do the users copy to html? Using the LO menu "Save as"? or 
selectng, then "Edition>Copy" .?


Je la 24/07/2017 16:48, anne-ology skribis :

From my experience,
   I would say you've uncovered a 'bug' since the name of the 
image

should only appear if the image cannot for some reason.

Here's hoping you can find a solution anon,



From: gordon cooper 
Date: Sun, Jul 23, 2017 at 5:23 PM
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Unwanted Alternative Image Names
To: users@global.libreoffice.org


We are using Libre Office in the writing of technical manuals
where some users make html copies.

Finding that the file names of images are being displayed
beside or below the images in the html versions. Because
all images are given a caption, we do not want the file names too.

  I can remove them by going to each image Properties>Options
and deleting one at a time but this is time consuming when there are
many images - over 100 in one manual.  Is there a setting that can
automatically prevent the file names being displayed?

Have looked through the Help but found nothing, did I overlook it?

Gordon
Tauranga N.Z.






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Re: [libreoffice-users] Unwanted Alternative Image Names

2017-07-24 Thread leleu

Did you try to deliver these manuals as pdf ?

How do the users copy to html? Using the LO menu "Save as"? or selectng, 
then "Edition>Copy" .?


Je la 24/07/2017 16:48, anne-ology skribis :

From my experience,
   I would say you've uncovered a 'bug' since the name of the image
should only appear if the image cannot for some reason.

Here's hoping you can find a solution anon,



From: gordon cooper 
Date: Sun, Jul 23, 2017 at 5:23 PM
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Unwanted Alternative Image Names
To: users@global.libreoffice.org


We are using Libre Office in the writing of technical manuals
where some users make html copies.

Finding that the file names of images are being displayed
beside or below the images in the html versions. Because
all images are given a caption, we do not want the file names too.

  I can remove them by going to each image Properties>Options
and deleting one at a time but this is time consuming when there are
many images - over 100 in one manual.  Is there a setting that can
automatically prevent the file names being displayed?

Have looked through the Help but found nothing, did I overlook it?

Gordon
Tauranga N.Z.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Unwanted Alternative Image Names

2017-07-24 Thread anne-ology
   From my experience,
  I would say you've uncovered a 'bug' since the name of the image
should only appear if the image cannot for some reason.

   Here's hoping you can find a solution anon,



From: gordon cooper 
Date: Sun, Jul 23, 2017 at 5:23 PM
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Unwanted Alternative Image Names
To: users@global.libreoffice.org


We are using Libre Office in the writing of technical manuals
where some users make html copies.

Finding that the file names of images are being displayed
beside or below the images in the html versions. Because
all images are given a caption, we do not want the file names too.

 I can remove them by going to each image Properties>Options
and deleting one at a time but this is time consuming when there are
many images - over 100 in one manual.  Is there a setting that can
automatically prevent the file names being displayed?

Have looked through the Help but found nothing, did I overlook it?

Gordon
Tauranga N.Z.

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