Re: Problems when creating Live-boot usb stick

2010-07-09 Thread Abu Attar Musharih
Hi, It is good to have several methods available. Before installing 'gparted', I again use the native command dd, - dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb dd: writing to `/dev/sdb': No space left on device 15663105+0 records in 15663104+0

Re: Problems when creating Live-boot usb stick

2010-07-09 Thread JD
On 07/08/2010 11:41 PM, Abu Attar Musharih wrote: Hi, It is good to have several methods available. Before installing 'gparted', I again use the native command dd, - dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb dd: writing to `/dev/sdb': No

Re: Bug in mailing lists; unfriendly to non-subscribers

2010-07-09 Thread Thomas Taylor
On Mon, 05 Jul 2010 09:55:49 -0400 Chris Tyler ch...@tylers.info wrote: On Mon, 2010-07-05 at 09:23 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: On Mon, 05 Jul 2010 08:57:48 -0400 Chris Tyler wrote: a process that takes a few seconds I understand the need to subscribe, but the process does not

Re: The quietness of preupgrade

2010-07-09 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 07/08/2010 03:08 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: I probably will; but I'm surprised no-one has agreed with me (as the OP) that the pauses in preupgrade are astonishingly long. Noone other than the developer of the program needs to agree for it to change. Filing it in bugzilla with more details

Bind Problems

2010-07-09 Thread JB
Mike Dwiggins mike at azdwiggins.com writes: Anyone know the best forum or mailing list to find answers to wierd BIND problems. Hi, 1. search Google for your weird problem first; it is a must ! 2. go to BIND developers site http://www.isc.org/software/bind and under community menu

Re: Problems when creating Live-boot usb stick

2010-07-09 Thread Thomas Taylor
On Fri, 9 Jul 2010 15:41:29 +0900 Abu Attar Musharih abuattar.musha...@gmail.com wrote: snip It seems OK up to this point. The 8G is there. However, partitioning with /sbin/fdisk and reformatting with mke2fs did not gave 8G. mke2fs -j /dev/sdb1 -L 8G-USB' The browser shows only 6.8 G free.

Re: Method to upgrade from live install to DVD install package setup?

2010-07-09 Thread s
On 07/08/2010 03:04 AM, Michael D. Setzer II wrote: I installed Fedora 13 from the live CD and have found many packages missing that would be installed with the normal process from the DVD images. Normally, I do use the DVD and do a preupgrade on one test machine and a clean install on

Re: Missing ephiphany plugin?

2010-07-09 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Fri, 09 Jul 2010 10:06:08 +0200, birger wrote: On Thu, 2010-07-08 at 14:33 -0400, Steve Blackwell wrote: Perhaps it is because no one cares? Epiphany wouldn't exist if nobody cared. I guess it's just that epiphany isn't used by a lot of those who frequent this mailing list. There don't

Re: Thynderbird sounds -

2010-07-09 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 09/07/10 01:57, Tim wrote: On Thu, 2010-07-08 at 10:16 -0400, Bob Goodwin wrote: I can tag Thunderbird received messages with color but what I really need is to tag them with a sound. I would like to play a unique sound as the output of an e-mail filter. You'll probably regret

Re: The quietness of preupgrade

2010-07-09 Thread Timothy Murphy
Robert Myers wrote: What the OP asked for (demanded, really) is not possible even in theory. Enormous amounts of time could be expended, and programs *with* status indicators will still have long, inexplicable pauses if something unexpected happens. As the OP, I didn't demand anything.

Re: Thynderbird sounds -

2010-07-09 Thread Tim
On Fri, 2010-07-09 at 05:40 -0400, Bob Goodwin wrote: Tim, this is one of the rare cases where you are wrong or perhaps don't understand what Thunderbird does? As it is now I have it set to Play a sound when an e-mail arrives [/usr/share/sounds/purple/alert.wav]. The result is

Re: Thunderbird sounds -

2010-07-09 Thread Erik P. Olsen
On 08/07/10 16:16, Bob Goodwin wrote: I can tag Thunderbird received messages with color but what I really need is to tag them with a sound. I would like to play a unique sound as the output of an e-mail filter. I can hear the incoming mail tone from other

Re: The quietness of preupgrade

2010-07-09 Thread Robert Myers
On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 6:45 AM, Timothy Murphy gayle...@eircom.net wrote: Robert Myers wrote: What the OP asked for (demanded, really) is not possible even in theory. Enormous amounts of time could be expended, and programs *with* status indicators will still have long, inexplicable

Re: Command Preference

2010-07-09 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Thu, 2010-07-08 at 19:15 -0700, Alejandro Rodriguez Luna wrote: Hi all!!, i have a question related to the preference of a command. What if I have 2 command like ls, one in /bin/ls and another in ~/bin/ls, i'd like to use my own ls, how i can do that? putting PATH=~/bin:/bin. I mean,

Lost my 3D and don't no where to find it !?!

2010-07-09 Thread William Case
Hi; Installed Fedora 13 with nouveau driver and added mesa-dri-drivers-experimental. Played around with compiz then removed nouveau and replaced it with nvidia to see how that would look. Preferred the look I got with nouveau, removed nvidia and reinstalled nouveau and

Strange! Firefox won't play youTube videos -- Epiphany will !?!

2010-07-09 Thread William Case
Hi; I have both nouveau and gnash installed. I am getting beautiful YouTube videos in Epiphany. Firefox says I need a plugin and about:plugins is not even showing the gnash plugins it used to. I tried adobe flash to see if that would fix it, but no change so I re-installed gnash. -- Regards

Re: The quietness of preupgrade

2010-07-09 Thread Timothy Murphy
Robert Myers wrote: Have you actually used preupgrade yourself? If so, what was the length (approximately) of the longest pause you experienced? I have used preupgrade multiple times on multiple boxes. Then perhaps you can answer my question - roughly how long is the longest pause you

Re: The quietness of preupgrade

2010-07-09 Thread Tim
On Fri, 2010-07-09 at 08:01 -0400, Robert Myers wrote: How about progress indicators that race up to 98 or 99% finished and stay there seemingly forever? The ones that would really annoy me made their way up to 100%, and stayed there for ages, when they hadn't reached 100%, but were at 99..

Re: The quietness of preupgrade

2010-07-09 Thread Robert Myers
On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 9:43 AM, Timothy Murphy gayle...@eircom.net wrote: Robert Myers wrote: Have you actually used preupgrade yourself? If so, what was the length (approximately) of the longest pause you experienced? I have used preupgrade multiple times on multiple boxes. Then

Re: Converting DVD copy to AVI

2010-07-09 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2010-07-08 at 23:41 -0300, Germán A. Racca wrote: There are several DVD rippers, but I do not know if any of them can rip on a DVD structured dir on disk into an AVI or WMV file. You can install ogmrip from rpmfusion, it handles a structured DVD directory. I didn't know about

Re: Reply-To munging summary (was: Bug in mailing lists; unfriendly to non-subscribers)

2010-07-09 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2010-07-09 at 15:18 +0930, Tim wrote: A new post button, to write a new message to that group, that wasn't an erroneous reply to a prior post. A feature sadly lacking from mail clients when they're working with list mail, that could quite easily be added to the toolbar (or an

Re: Problems when creating Live-boot usb stick

2010-07-09 Thread Darr
On Friday, 09 July, 2010 @07:35 zulu, Thomas Taylor scribed: The apparent size difference could be in how the sizes are calculated. One program may use the 1K = 1000 Bytes where the other may use 1K = 1024Bytes which would result in the latter displaying a smaller size. Also, if you use a

Re: Missing ephiphany plugin?

2010-07-09 Thread Steve Blackwell
On Fri, 9 Jul 2010 10:44:41 +0200 Michael Schwendt mschwe...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, 09 Jul 2010 10:06:08 +0200, birger wrote: On Thu, 2010-07-08 at 14:33 -0400, Steve Blackwell wrote: Perhaps it is because no one cares? Epiphany wouldn't exist if nobody cared. I guess it's just

Re: Problems when creating Live-boot usb stick

2010-07-09 Thread john wendel
On 07/09/2010 12:35 AM, Thomas Taylor wrote: On Fri, 9 Jul 2010 15:41:29 +0900 Abu Attar Musharihabuattar.musha...@gmail.com wrote: snip It seems OK up to this point. The 8G is there. However, partitioning with /sbin/fdisk and reformatting with mke2fs did not gave 8G. mke2fs -j /dev/sdb1

Install Fedora 13 Hangs

2010-07-09 Thread Gary W Johnson
I am trying to upgrade to Fedora 13 from a Fedora 11 system. I made a DVD and when I do the upgrade it displays the message Probing EDD (edd=off to disable)... ok) and then it hangs. The upgrade stops with the message and makes no ferther progress. I did a online upgrade and when it rebooted

Re: Lost my 3D and don't no where to find it !?!

2010-07-09 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Fri, 09 Jul 2010 08:39:17 -0400 William Case billli...@rogers.com wrote: Hi; Installed Fedora 13 with nouveau driver and added mesa-dri-drivers-experimental. Played around with compiz then removed nouveau and replaced it with nvidia to see how that would look. Preferred the look I got

Error messages from BIND.

2010-07-09 Thread reg
I have recently started getting the following pair of error messages from bind: bg DNSKEY: please check the 'trusted-keys' for 'bg' in named.conf.: 6 Time(s) bg DNSKEY: unable to find a DNSKEY which verifies the DNSKEY RRset and also matches one of specified trusted-keys for

Re: Reply-To munging summary (was: Bug in mailing lists; unfriendly to non-subscribers)

2010-07-09 Thread Kwan Lowe
On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 9:54 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan pocallag...@gmail.com wrote: [snip] I also agree with the rest of your post (and see no reason to quote it in its entirety :-), but I wonder if we're all just rearranging the deckchairs on the Titanic when it comes to mailing lists. I have the

Re: Install Fedora 13 Hangs

2010-07-09 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Fri, 09 Jul 2010 08:26:49 -0700 Gary W Johnson gary@verizon.net wrote: I am trying to upgrade to Fedora 13 from a Fedora 11 system. I made a DVD and when I do the upgrade it displays the message Probing EDD (edd=off to disable)... ok) and then it hangs. The upgrade stops with the

NetworkManager v. Dell Hair Puller Solved

2010-07-09 Thread Fedora User
This may help others fix a problem with a Dell laptop, Broadcom wifi and NetworkManager. Special thanks to Jirka Klimes for insight and patience. Here were the symptoms: 1. WiFi worked without NM but not with it. 2. Enable wireless was grayed out in the NM applet. The solution is simply to

Re: Install Fedora 13 Hangs

2010-07-09 Thread Gary W Johnson
HI... It is a VGA card. NVIDIA NV5[RIVA TNT2/TNT2 Pro Rev 15 I booted with the switches you provided and neither works. I have to force reset the PC to get out of the hang. ...GaryJ -- From: Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com Sent: Friday, July 09,

Re: Install Fedora 13 Hangs

2010-07-09 Thread Frank Murphy
On 09/07/10 17:52, Gary W Johnson wrote: HI... It is a VGA card. NVIDIA NV5[RIVA TNT2/TNT2 Pro Rev 15 I booted with the switches you provided and neither works. I have to force reset the PC to get out of the hang. ...GaryJ What kernel are you booting with (on the dvd) -- Regards,

Re: Install Fedora 13 Hangs

2010-07-09 Thread Gary W Johnson
I am just selecting Install New System or Upgrade. from the Options list that the DVD App gives me. There do seem to be any alterative Kernels on the DVD. I made the DVD yesterday from the Fedora site. -- From: Frank Murphy

Re: Install Fedora 13 Hangs

2010-07-09 Thread Frank Murphy
On 09/07/10 18:15, Gary W Johnson wrote: I am just selecting Install New System or Upgrade. from the Options list that the DVD App gives me. There do seem to be any alterative Kernels on the DVD. I made the DVD yesterday from the Fedora site. Whe you say made, you just burned the

Re: Bug in mailing lists; unfriendly to non-subscribers

2010-07-09 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 7:12 AM, Tim ignored_mail...@yahoo.com.au wrote: Tim: It doesn't double up the *to* addresses, when I reply here.  I second the motion that it's most likely to be a gmail problem.  Either what it does, or how you're using it. Tom H: Thanks for the info. The way that

Re: Install Fedora 13 Hangs

2010-07-09 Thread Gary W Johnson
Yes, I686 ISO version -- From: Frank Murphy frankl...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 10:51 AM To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: Re: Install Fedora 13 Hangs On 09/07/10 18:15, Gary W Johnson wrote: I am just selecting Install New

Re: Converting DVD copy to AVI

2010-07-09 Thread Michael Miles
On 07/09/2010 06:39 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Thu, 2010-07-08 at 23:41 -0300, Germán A. Racca wrote: There are several DVD rippers, but I do not know if any of them can rip on a DVD structured dir on disk into an AVI or WMV file. You can install ogmrip from rpmfusion, it

Re: no sound on F11, F12 and now F13 but sound on Omega 12 live??? wtf??

2010-07-09 Thread Bill Davidsen
Dave Stevens wrote: On Tuesday, July 06, 2010 08:38:38 am Bill Davidsen wrote: Rick Sewill wrote: On 07/05/2010 10:23 PM, Rick Sewill wrote: . I am wondering if OSS is enabled on your system. Please look for things related to OSS in /etc/modprobe.conf (if it exists) and /etc/modprobe.d

Re: no sound on F11, F12 and now F13 but sound on Omega 12 live??? wtf??

2010-07-09 Thread Bill Davidsen
Rick Sewill wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/06/2010 10:38 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote: Rick Sewill wrote: On 07/05/2010 10:23 PM, Rick Sewill wrote: . I am wondering if OSS is enabled on your system. Please look for things related to OSS in /etc/modprobe.conf (if

Re: Thynderbird sounds -

2010-07-09 Thread g
Bob Goodwin wrote: snip It seems to me there must be others who would like this feature and thought it might already exist. Apparently not. perhaps you are looking at this from wrong perspective. because thunderbird can not do what you want, and if it is important to have notice of certain

Re: k3b, wodim, or what? [The website by cdrecord's author]

2010-07-09 Thread Jonathan Ryshpan
On Fri, 2010-07-02 at 18:20 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Fri, 2010-07-02 at 17:01 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: I sometimes backup some data files to dual layer DVD using k3b. On fedora 13, I notice that k3b seems to try and use wodim by default to do this. On previous versions it used

boot messages : say it ain't so

2010-07-09 Thread BeartoothHOS
Several machines have been showing lines like these : Press 'I' to enter interactive startup. Starting udev: udevd[405]: BUS= will be removed in a future udev version, please use SUBSYSTEM= to match the event device, or SUBSYSTEMS= to match a parent device, in

Re: k3b, wodim, or what? [The website by cdrecord's author]

2010-07-09 Thread JD
On 07/09/2010 01:56 PM, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: On Fri, 2010-07-02 at 18:20 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Fri, 2010-07-02 at 17:01 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: I sometimes backup some data files to dual layer DVD using k3b. On fedora 13, I notice that k3b seems to try and use wodim by

Re: k3b, wodim, or what? [The website by cdrecord's author]

2010-07-09 Thread Craig White
On Fri, 2010-07-09 at 14:12 -0700, JD wrote: On 07/09/2010 01:56 PM, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: On Fri, 2010-07-02 at 18:20 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Fri, 2010-07-02 at 17:01 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: I sometimes backup some data files to dual layer DVD using k3b. On fedora 13, I

Need help installing ASUS audio drivers

2010-07-09 Thread Alan Nicoll
uname -a Linux NN.FRONT 2.6.33.5-124.fc13.x86_64 #1 SMP Fri Jun 11 09:38:12 UTC 2010 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux My M4A78L-M came with linux audio drivers on the CD but I get many errors trying to compile them and I don't know which of these are killers and which are spurious. The disk comes

Re: boot messages : say it ain't so

2010-07-09 Thread jack craig
On 07/09/2010 01:58 PM, BeartoothHOS wrote: Several machines have been showing lines like these : Press 'I' to enter interactive startup. Starting udev: udevd[405]: BUS= will be removed in a future udev version, please use SUBSYSTEM= to match the event device, or

Re: Converting DVD copy to AVI

2010-07-09 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2010-07-09 at 12:22 -0700, Michael Miles wrote: I didn't know about that one but I'm trying it now. Looks quite decent. I'll also try dvd::rip, which I should have thought of in the first place. Thanks to all for the advice. poc I have tried DVD::Rip on a few

Re: k3b, wodim, or what? [The website by cdrecord's author]

2010-07-09 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2010-07-09 at 14:12 -0700, JD wrote: It does not take a brain sugeon to see that wodim was ripped from Joerg's cdrecord. From the wodim man page: This application is derived from cdrecord as included in the cdrtools package [1] created by Joerg Schilling, who deserves

Re: Need help installing ASUS audio drivers

2010-07-09 Thread jack craig
On 07/09/2010 02:31 PM, Alan Nicoll wrote: uname -a Linux NN.FRONT 2.6.33.5-124.fc13.x86_64 #1 SMP Fri Jun 11 09:38:12 UTC 2010 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux My M4A78L-M came with linux audio drivers on the CD but I get many errors trying to compile them and I don't know which of these

Re: Converting DVD copy to AVI

2010-07-09 Thread Michael Miles
On 07/09/2010 02:46 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Fri, 2010-07-09 at 12:22 -0700, Michael Miles wrote: I didn't know about that one but I'm trying it now. Looks quite decent. I'll also try dvd::rip, which I should have thought of in the first place. Thanks to all

Epiphany can no longe read .xml files. ?!?

2010-07-09 Thread William Case
Hi; Epiphany can no longer read .xml files. ?!? Firefox which shares plugins and mozilla with epiphany does still read *.xml files. Any suggestions? Or, what gives? -- Regards Bill Fedora 13, Gnome 2.30.2 Evo.2.20.2, Emacs 23.2.1 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To

Re: Converting DVD copy to AVI

2010-07-09 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2010-07-09 at 15:03 -0700, Michael Miles wrote: OGMRip does work great but it takes forever. I have a Phenom 2 965 @ 3.6 and so far from an iso image to avi has taken 3.5 hours and is still not completed. All the work is being done by mencode. Do a pgrep -fl mencode while ogmrip is

Where to find documentation for KPackageKit

2010-07-09 Thread Thomas Taylor
Hi folks: In KPackageKit there is a help button in the lower left corner but it's greyed out and doesn't respond to mouse clicks. Where else can I obtain help with this program? I've searched in Start Help and on KDE site but haven't found anything. I want some documentation about using

Re: Problems when creating Live-boot usb stick

2010-07-09 Thread Abu Attar Musharih
Back to my main subject,  I tried  livecd-iso-to-disk for creating a live-boot stick. It did not work on my FC7, a couple of packages are missing (checkisomd5 and udevadm). Can anyone let me know which package to download so the two commands available? I searched the reps of FC7 and did not

Re: Problems when creating Live-boot usb stick

2010-07-09 Thread fred smith
On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 11:22:26AM +0900, Abu Attar Musharih wrote: Back to my main subject,  I tried  livecd-iso-to-disk for creating a live-boot stick. It did not work on my FC7, a couple of packages are missing (checkisomd5 and udevadm). Can anyone let me know which package to

kpackagekit-0.6.0-2.fc13.i686 ERRORS

2010-07-09 Thread JD
$ sudo kpackagekit --updates Error: /var/tmp/kdecache-jd is owned by uid 1008 instead of uid 0. Error: /tmp/kde-jd is owned by uid 1008 instead of uid 0. Error: /tmp/kde-jd is owned by uid 1008 instead of uid 0. Error: /tmp/ksocket-jd is owned by uid 1008 instead of uid 0. kdeinit4: Shutting

Re: Problems when creating Live-boot usb stick

2010-07-09 Thread JD
On 07/09/2010 08:06 PM, fred smith wrote: On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 11:22:26AM +0900, Abu Attar Musharih wrote: Back to my main subject, I tried livecd-iso-to-disk for creating a live-boot stick. It did not work on my FC7, a couple of packages are missing (checkisomd5 and udevadm). Can

PreUpgrade

2010-07-09 Thread Marvin Kosmal
Hi I am currently using FC12 I read the Howto.. And I think I am ready.. The program will not change any partitioning on the HD will it?? I am still new to Fedora but, love it.. Is there anything I should know? That is not in the Howto? TIA Marvin -- users mailing list

Re: PreUpgrade

2010-07-09 Thread Kevin J. Cummings
On 07/10/2010 12:29 AM, Marvin Kosmal wrote: Hi I am currently using FC12 I read the Howto.. And I think I am ready.. The program will not change any partitioning on the HD will it?? Read each screen carefully. Be warned. If for any reason, on the reboot to install packages,

Re: PreUpgrade

2010-07-09 Thread Marvin Kosmal
On 7/9/10, Kevin J. Cummings cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net wrote: On 07/10/2010 12:29 AM, Marvin Kosmal wrote: Hi I am currently using FC12 I read the Howto.. And I think I am ready.. The program will not change any partitioning on the HD will it?? Read each screen carefully. Be warned.

Re: Reply-To munging summary (was: Bug in mailing lists; unfriendly to non-subscribers)

2010-07-09 Thread Tim
On Fri, 2010-07-09 at 09:24 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: I wonder if we're all just rearranging the deckchairs on the Titanic when it comes to mailing lists. I have the impression that the whole ml thing is actually a poor man's Usenet, invented because everyone has mail. I've had the

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2010-07-09 Thread Vinu Moses
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