Re: Who supplies the information to configure Dell keyboards?

2011-09-06 Thread Andrew Haley
On 09/06/2011 02:05 AM, nomnex wrote: On Mon, 05 Sep 2011 16:39:05 +0530 Rahul Sundaram methe...@gmail.com wrote: On 09/05/2011 04:13 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: On Mon, 5 Sep 2011 12:27:46 +0200 Alexander Volovics wrote: Why does Fedora lag behind Ubuntu in this regard while usually

Re: Vote to extend F14 security updates

2011-09-06 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 09/06/2011 12:38 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: On a side note, all too many of the devs either expect everybody else to know how to program as well as they do, or use the comment If you don't like it, why don't you fix it yourself? as a putdown to the rest of us who don't agree with what they've

enlightenment e17

2011-09-06 Thread gpe
There was a lot going on about hating the gnome3 and someone mentioned that he miss e17 on Fedora. Currently I am a happy e17 user on Fedora 15. I like the customizability, the flexibility and the lightness (it eats less than 70MB of RAM). Even if it considered as beta I do not had any issues

Re: enlightenment e17

2011-09-06 Thread suvayu ali
On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 1:31 PM, gpe gpe...@gmail.com wrote: Here is a help if anybody want to try it out. 1. Add fedora.md repo Enlightenment is available on Fedora 15. A simple: # yum install enlightenment should suffice. However the package might be orphaned for F16 due to lack of a

Re: enlightenment e17

2011-09-06 Thread gpe
On 09/06/2011 12:52 PM, suvayu ali wrote: Enlightenment is available on Fedora 15. A simple: # yum install enlightenment should suffice. However the package might be orphaned for F16 due to lack of a maintainer. It is an older version 55225 comparing to 62564, and it does not seems to be

Re: Fedora 15 is a lot like Windows OS's.. irritating, offensive, difficult to use with ease, nauseating to try...

2011-09-06 Thread Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak
On 09/02/2011 12:53 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: Joe Zeff wrote: Since when has there been the slightest sign of the Gnome devs giving a rats ass about what mere users think? They care enormously about what the imaginary user they have created thinks. Real users, not so much. They can always

Re: enlightenment e17

2011-09-06 Thread Dario Lesca
Il giorno mar, 06/09/2011 alle 12.31 +0100, gpe ha scritto: 2. Install e7 yum install enlightenment exchange Wow!! but ... is fantastic! ... is very very beautiful ... an usable and ... many many other things. But the Gnome3 developers have see e17? I think no: gnome3 is nothing (is poor)

F-EOL versions of Firefox: How to remove co-opted Diginotar CA?

2011-09-06 Thread Daniel B. Thurman
For EOL FF versions, how can I remove the co-opted Diginotar CA certificate? Instructions given by Mozilla does not remove this certificate. If the root CA's cannot be manually removed, Is there a FF rpm that has the fix? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or

Is this a bug?

2011-09-06 Thread Adam Tong
Hi, After installing F15, I found a problem that did not happen in the previous versions. If I start fedora without being wired to internet it freezes after startup. Cannot move the mouse to get in. I have to reboot and connect it (with the wire) to internet. Do you have any suggestions? --

F15 cannot unmount shares with usermount

2011-09-06 Thread Frank Murphy
Watch for line wraps: from fstab: mynas://nfs/store01 /home/users/Net01 nfs rw,users,noauto,hard,intr 0 0 when I use a launcher to mount with /usr/bin/usermount It mounts, but cannot umount umount: /home/users/Net01 mount disagrees with the fstab drwxrwx---+ 11 root users 4096

Re: Is this a bug?

2011-09-06 Thread Christopher Svanefalk
On 09/06/2011 04:19 PM, Adam Tong wrote: Hi, After installing F15, I found a problem that did not happen in the previous versions. If I start fedora without being wired to internet it freezes after startup. Cannot move the mouse to get in. I have to reboot and connect it (with the wire)

Re: F-EOL versions of Firefox: How to remove co-opted Diginotar CA?

2011-09-06 Thread Daniel B. Thurman
On 09/06/2011 08:08 AM, Pasha R wrote: On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 5:19 PM, Daniel B. Thurman d...@cdkkt.com wrote: For EOL FF versions, how can I remove the co-opted Diginotar CA certificate? Instructions given by Mozilla does not remove this certificate. If the root CA's cannot be manually

Re: F-EOL versions of Firefox: How to remove co-opted Diginotar CA?

2011-09-06 Thread Steven Stern
On 09/06/2011 10:18 AM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: On 09/06/2011 08:08 AM, Pasha R wrote: On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 5:19 PM, Daniel B. Thurman d...@cdkkt.com wrote: For EOL FF versions, how can I remove the co-opted Diginotar CA certificate? Instructions given by Mozilla does not remove this

Re: F-EOL versions of Firefox: How to remove co-opted Diginotar CA?

2011-09-06 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 12:18, Daniel B. Thurman d...@cdkkt.com wrote: Now...  I need to figure out how to do a backport of ca-certificates pkg so if anyone has any idea how this can be done, I am all ears... Well, Wikileaks has proved that you can only hide information for so long. So why not

Re: F-EOL versions of Firefox: How to remove co-opted Diginotar CA?

2011-09-06 Thread Daniel B. Thurman
On 09/06/2011 08:24 AM, Fernando Cassia wrote: On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 12:18, Daniel B. Thurman d...@cdkkt.com wrote: Now... I need to figure out how to do a backport of ca-certificates pkg so if anyone has any idea how this can be done, I am all ears... Well, Wikileaks has proved that you can

Re: F-EOL versions of Firefox: How to remove co-opted Diginotar CA?

2011-09-06 Thread Alan Cox
On Tue, 06 Sep 2011 07:19:22 -0700 Daniel B. Thurman d...@cdkkt.com wrote: For EOL FF versions, how can I remove the co-opted Diginotar CA certificate? Instructions given by Mozilla does not remove this certificate. I think you'll need to build a newer Firefox (and remember for a no longer

Re: F-EOL versions of Firefox: How to remove co-opted Diginotar CA?

2011-09-06 Thread Pasha R
On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 6:18 PM, Daniel B. Thurman d...@cdkkt.com wrote: On 09/06/2011 08:08 AM, Pasha R wrote: On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 5:19 PM, Daniel B. Thurman d...@cdkkt.com wrote: For EOL FF versions, how can I remove the co-opted Diginotar CA certificate? Instructions given by Mozilla

Re: F-EOL versions of Firefox: How to remove co-opted Diginotar CA?

2011-09-06 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 06 Sep 2011 08:18:34 -0700 Daniel B. Thurman wrote: Now... I need to figure out how to do a backport of ca-certificates pkg so if anyone has any idea how this can be done, I am all ears... My approach would be to download the source RPM for the old fedora, do an rpmbuild -bp, then

Re: F-EOL versions of Firefox: How to remove co-opted Diginotar CA?

2011-09-06 Thread Daniel B. Thurman
On 09/06/2011 08:49 AM, Pasha R wrote: On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 6:18 PM, Daniel B. Thurman d...@cdkkt.com wrote: On 09/06/2011 08:08 AM, Pasha R wrote: On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 5:19 PM, Daniel B. Thurman d...@cdkkt.com wrote: For EOL FF versions, how can I remove the co-opted Diginotar CA

Re: F-EOL versions of Firefox: How to remove co-opted Diginotar CA?

2011-09-06 Thread Daniel B. Thurman
On 09/06/2011 08:52 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: On Tue, 06 Sep 2011 08:18:34 -0700 Daniel B. Thurman wrote: Now... I need to figure out how to do a backport of ca-certificates pkg so if anyone has any idea how this can be done, I am all ears... My approach would be to download the source RPM for

Re: Latest update boots to blank screen (nvidia)

2011-09-06 Thread CS DBA
On 08/24/2011 02:10 PM, CS DBA wrote: Hi All; I have an IBM Thinkpad with an Nvidia card ( nVidia Corporation GT218 [NVS 3100M] (rev a2) ) I currently have the nouveau driver black listed in my grub.conf setup: /rhgb quiet nouveau.modeset=0 rdblacklist=nouveau/ I did the update which

Re: Latest update boots to blank screen (nvidia)

2011-09-06 Thread linux guy
I still cannot apply the latest kernel nvidia package. Has anyone resolved this? I got two of my computers with this problem to boot by removing all kmod-nvidia and akmod-nvidia files and also removing (renaming) /etc/X11/xorg.conf. This causes the machines to boot with the nouveau driver,

Re: Getting Intel 4965 wireless working in F15 ?

2011-09-06 Thread linux guy
On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 10:35 AM, Ranjan Maitra mai...@iastate.edu wrote: I have this wireless for over four years now, and this works just fine, from off-the-shelf. Have you tried using the LiveCD to check whether the wireless is picked up? It works fine with the F15 live ISO. I can't

Re: How to change from gnome to KDE and back?

2011-09-06 Thread Vinny Onelli
Vinny Onelli wrote: I did select the KDE also during the installation. at the present time I have gnome running. You have all of KDE already installed. Simply log out and select KDE on the kdm selector and log back in. gdm should also give you that option. If it doesn't work, then

[389-users] LDAP Secondary not returning the same as primary with getent passwd

2011-09-06 Thread Dan H. Eicher
Synopsis: getent passwd {user} works on secondary and primary server, getent passwd fails (does not return all users) on secondary, works correctly on primary. getent passwd {username} - works when pointing to both primary and secondary. getent passwd | grep {username} only works if pointed

Re: Fedora 15 is a lot like Windows OS's.. irritating, offensive, difficult to use with ease, nauseating to try...

2011-09-06 Thread Joe Zeff
On 09/06/2011 05:17 AM, Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak wrote: Wow. I hope you guys are just as effusive with your praise to developers for software that you actually like... It's not that we don't like Gnome. I used Gnome 2.x and liked it. What I never liked is the attitude of the devs, even then.

Re: How to change from gnome to KDE and back?

2011-09-06 Thread Peter Gueckel
Vinny Onelli wrote: Thank you very much, the direction were perfect and every thing worked. Happy to help. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines:

Re: iMac on my Lan can't see my printer connected via usb to my linux box

2011-09-06 Thread jackson byers
Ted Roche responded (http://localhost:631/help/sharing.html?TOPIC=Getting+StartedQUERY=#AUTO_CUPS) and there I found a note that says: Note: Due to user interface changes in Mac OS X 10.5, CUPS shared printers will not automatically appear in the print dialog. Instead, you must first

Re: Vote to extend F14 security updates

2011-09-06 Thread Gregory P. Ennis
On Mon, 2011-09-05 at 11:53 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: On 09/05/2011 11:37 AM, Gregory P. Ennis wrote: I have not had the time, but my next step to salvage this piece of equipment is to use kde or one of the other gui's. My desktop is maxed out at 1 Gig, and I'm not in the position to buy a

Re: Vote to extend F14 security updates

2011-09-06 Thread Joe Zeff
On 09/06/2011 11:48 AM, Gregory P. Ennis wrote: I took your advice, and installed XFCE on F15 and it is working better than great. Very fast, very intuitive, and the users were very pleased. So far no crashes or white screens. I'm glad it worked for you. One of the great things about Linux

Re: How to change from gnome to KDE and back?

2011-09-06 Thread n2xssvv.g02gfr12930
On 06/09/11 19:14, Peter Gueckel wrote: Vinny Onelli wrote: Thank you very much, the direction were perfect and every thing worked. Happy to help. Here's hoping you enjoy KDE, it's what I use. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription

Re: iMac on my Lan can't see my printer connected via usb to my linux box

2011-09-06 Thread Ted Roche
On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 2:45 PM, jackson byers byers...@gmail.com wrote: But, much is  not clear to me, I thought the whole point of IPP Sharing was that you didnt have to do anything on the client machines, even Macs. Well, especially Macs, as CUPS is/was written by Apple. Am I supposed to

Re: iMac on my Lan can't see my printer connected via usb to my linux box

2011-09-06 Thread Joe Zeff
On 09/06/2011 12:12 PM, Ted Roche wrote: And did you try it on the Mac? I tried 'man cupsctl' on my F14 box, and it doesn't seem to support that syntax, so I think it was intended for you to try on the Mac. If this doesn't work, try going to http://127.0.0.1:631/ on the Mac, as that's the web

Re: [SOLVED] Re: Disable GDM ready sound

2011-09-06 Thread antonio montagnani
Konstantin Svist ha scritto / said the followingil giorno/on 06/09/2011 22:12: On 09/06/2011 01:02 PM, Konstantin Svist wrote: Every time I boot my laptop, I'm greeted with an annoying BONG! sound (/usr/share/sounds/freedesktop/stereo/bell.oga) Is there a proper way to turn it off? If

OT: grep by sound and grep by image

2011-09-06 Thread Hiisi
Hi, list! Sorry if this thread interrupts the hottest discussions about gnome3 and systemd. I'm just curious. There's a visgrep utility [1] that allows one to find images inside of images. I wonder is there anything similar to google image search where one could provide a pattern image and search

Re: [SOLVED] Re: Disable GDM ready sound

2011-09-06 Thread Konstantin Svist
On 09/06/2011 01:28 PM, antonio montagnani wrote: Konstantin Svist ha scritto / said the followingil giorno/on 06/09/2011 22:12: On 09/06/2011 01:02 PM, Konstantin Svist wrote: Every time I boot my laptop, I'm greeted with an annoying BONG! sound

Re: OT: grep by sound and grep by image

2011-09-06 Thread Steven Stern
On 09/06/2011 03:45 PM, Hiisi wrote: Hi, list! Sorry if this thread interrupts the hottest discussions about gnome3 and systemd. I'm just curious. There's a visgrep utility [1] that allows one to find images inside of images. I wonder is there anything similar to google image search where

Re: OT: grep by sound and grep by image

2011-09-06 Thread Hiisi
On 6 September 2011 21:04, Steven Stern subscribed-li...@sterndata.com wrote: --SNIP-- It sounds like the sort of thing that's behind Shazam's app. Nice try, Steve! Forgot to mention, open-source required! Stand-alone editions are preferable ;-) -- Hiisi. Registered Linux User #487982. Be

Verbose systemctl start network.serivce

2011-09-06 Thread Gilboa Davara
Hello all, I *know* this is a touchy subject, so please don't turn this into yet-another-why-I-hate-systemd shouting-match. (God knows we had far too many of those lately...) I'm in the process of upgrading a number of F14 machines to F15. (Which makes me a prime candidate for a I survived

Re: Verbose systemctl start network.serivce

2011-09-06 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 7 Sep 2011 01:15:07 +0300 Gilboa Davara wrote: (Preferably without adding some boot parameters and/or configuration file editing) There was some discussion about getting more info from systemd on the list a few weeks ago, and I seem to recall that thread mentioning a systemd config

pulseaudio command line control?

2011-09-06 Thread Tom Horsley
By running gnome-control-center sound I can get a GUI app in which I can set a device profile to off so that pulse will stop fooling with it, and I am then free to talk to it directly with alsa to do special things like ac3 passthrough to spdif. My question is: Can I do the same thing with a

Re: Verbose systemctl start network.serivce

2011-09-06 Thread Gilboa Davara
On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 1:30 AM, Tom Horsley horsley1...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, 7 Sep 2011 01:15:07 +0300 Gilboa Davara wrote: (Preferably without adding some boot parameters and/or configuration file editing) There was some discussion about getting more info from systemd on the list a

Non-YouTube videos don't work in F15

2011-09-06 Thread Bob McClure Jr
A few weeks ago I upgraded from Fedora 13 to Fedora 15. This was an on-line upgrade (using preupgrade) not a fresh install. Not surprisingly, several things are broken. This is an AMD Athlon 64 machine with 2GB of RAM. Initially, I couldn't get any videos to work, but a web search led me to a

Re: Is this a bug?

2011-09-06 Thread Adam Tong
Hi, Are you sure we are talking about the same issue. In my case I tested several times. Whenever I try starting without the network wire this happens, and never when the network wire is plugged in. I doubt that the network wire adds more memory to the operating system!!! What i was thinking

Re: Is this a bug?

2011-09-06 Thread David
On 9/6/2011 8:48 PM, Adam Tong wrote: Hi, Are you sure we are talking about the same issue. In my case I tested several times. Whenever I try starting without the network wire this happens, and never when the network wire is plugged in. I doubt that the network wire adds more memory to

Re: Non-YouTube videos don't work in F15

2011-09-06 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Bob McClure Jr writes: A few weeks ago I upgraded from Fedora 13 to Fedora 15. This was an on-line upgrade (using preupgrade) not a fresh install. Not surprisingly, several things are broken. This is an AMD Athlon 64 machine with 2GB of RAM. Initially, I couldn't get any videos to work, but

Re: Non-YouTube videos don't work in F15

2011-09-06 Thread Bob McClure Jr
On Tue, Sep 06, 2011 at 09:04:15PM -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote: Bob McClure Jr writes: A few weeks ago I upgraded from Fedora 13 to Fedora 15. This was an on-line upgrade (using preupgrade) not a fresh install. Not surprisingly, several things are broken. This is an AMD Athlon 64

Re: reaching a server behind a NAT

2011-09-06 Thread Jatin K
On Monday 05 September 2011 08:50 PM, Christopher Svanefalk wrote: Hey all, sorry if this is not purely Fedora related, but I was hoping I might get some feedback anyhow from someone who knows more than I do. I have this: A NAT-configured router between my house and the internet. A NAS

Non-YouTube videos don't work in F15

2011-09-06 Thread Andre Robatino
Bob McClure Jr bob at bobcatos.com writes: I don't believe there's a yum repo for x86-64 beta flash plugin, so I roll my own rpm. Funny timing – I just checked and there's a new beta x86-64 plugin released today on http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer11.html There is a third-party

Re: No wireless (waiting for authorization) after awake from suspend

2011-09-06 Thread Gene Smith
Gene Smith wrote, On 09/05/2011 11:08 PM: F15 on new HP dv7-6195 (i7/sandy bridge) cannot regain wireless connection after awake from suspend. In KDE, I see notification waiting for authorization and then a key icon appears over the wireless icon in tray. In gnome, a dialog pops up with my

SVN over HTTP and mod_security

2011-09-06 Thread Philip Prindeville
I had configured and installed subversion (SVN) to run over HTTP as the transport, but when I tried to use it I got: [Mon Sep 05 11:23:29 2011] [error] [client ::1] ModSecurity: Warning. Operator LT matched 20 at TX:inbound_anomaly_score. [file

Re: F-EOL versions of Firefox: How to remove co-opted Diginotar CA?

2011-09-06 Thread Pasha R
On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 7:05 PM, Daniel B. Thurman d...@cdkkt.com wrote: On 09/06/2011 08:49 AM, Pasha R wrote: On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 6:18 PM, Daniel B. Thurman d...@cdkkt.com wrote: On 09/06/2011 08:08 AM, Pasha R wrote: On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 5:19 PM, Daniel B. Thurman d...@cdkkt.com wrote: