Re: NetworkManager stymies me again

2020-05-03 Thread Ed Greshko
On 2020-05-04 08:19, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Sun, 3 May 2020 14:45:49 -0700 > Samuel Sieb wrote: > >> I highly recommend using "nm-connection-editor". It's the official >> connection editor for NetworkManager. It's quite nice and gives you >> access to all the settings and connection types. >

Re: Opera Mail & Browser after upgrading Fedora31 to Fedora32 . Ed Greshko.

2020-05-03 Thread Ed Greshko
On 2020-05-04 08:24, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 5/3/20 4:12 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: >> On 2020-05-04 02:06, stan via users wrote: >>> On Sun, 3 May 2020 21:45:39 +0800 >>> Ed Greshko wrote: >>> On 2020-05-03 21:24, Ger van Dijck wrote: > Libgstreamer-0.10.so.0 > Libgstbase-0.10.so.0 >

Re: Opera Mail & Browser after upgrading Fedora31 to Fedora32 . Ed Greshko.

2020-05-03 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 5/3/20 4:12 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 2020-05-04 02:06, stan via users wrote: On Sun, 3 May 2020 21:45:39 +0800 Ed Greshko wrote: On 2020-05-03 21:24, Ger van Dijck wrote: Libgstreamer-0.10.so.0 Libgstbase-0.10.so.0 Libgstvideo-0.10.so.0 are missing. I think these have been retired

Re: NetworkManager stymies me again

2020-05-03 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 3 May 2020 14:45:49 -0700 Samuel Sieb wrote: > I highly recommend using "nm-connection-editor". It's the official > connection editor for NetworkManager. It's quite nice and gives you > access to all the settings and connection types. But it gives absolutely zero feedback on why the

Re: Opera Mail & Browser after upgrading Fedora31 to Fedora32 . Ed Greshko.

2020-05-03 Thread Ed Greshko
On 2020-05-04 02:06, stan via users wrote: > On Sun, 3 May 2020 21:45:39 +0800 > Ed Greshko wrote: > >> On 2020-05-03 21:24, Ger van Dijck wrote: >>> Second problem : Also a long time ago , don't ask me when or where >>> I found opera-12.16-1860.x86_64.rpm and installed it. Purpose was >>> and is

Re: homed

2020-05-03 Thread George N. White III
On Sun, 3 May 2020 at 16:17, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 5/3/20 6:37 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > > Especially since there's plenty of stuff outside of your home directory > > that's tied to your userid and groupid. > > > > /var/spool/mail, for example. > > What is this plenty of stuff? That's one

dnfdragora freezing, pausing, crashing

2020-05-03 Thread Richard England
Before I spend inordinate amounts of time on this, has anyone else encountered dnfdragora freezing or crashing since upgrading a machine from f31 to f32?  This is when starting it as a normal user. I have 2 machines that his happens on and one that does not. On the first machine, if I run

Re: minor gnome annoyance

2020-05-03 Thread Todd Zullinger
Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 5/2/20 9:47 PM, Tim via users wrote: >> On Sat, 2020-05-02 at 11:50 -0400, Todd Zullinger wrote: >>> Or just type your password, which causes the lock screen to >>> go away and the password input to be filled in. Having to >>> manually do anything first is more of an

Re: homed

2020-05-03 Thread Jonathan Billings
On May 3, 2020, at 00:30, Javier Perez wrote: > Reading this article, I am beginning to really detest systemd > Why does it have to hang its tentacles on the home directory? > > https://www.techrepublic.com/article/linux-home-directory-management-is-about-to-undergo-major-change/ > > If we

Re: NetworkManager stymies me again

2020-05-03 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 5/3/20 10:27 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: I was finally going to try to setup my network using nm in fedora 32. I figured after 10 years or so all the bits I use might finally work :-). I'm pretty sure the bits have been working for many years because I've been using them. Here's the commands

Re: homed

2020-05-03 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Samuel Sieb writes: On 5/3/20 6:37 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: Especially since there's plenty of stuff outside of your home directory that's tied to your userid and groupid. /var/spool/mail, for example. What is this plenty of stuff? That's one example. What else? Oh, I'm sure we'll

Re: Lost Mate-panel

2020-05-03 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 5/3/20 10:49 AM, Beartooth wrote: On Sat, 02 May 2020 14:24:41 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: I'm not familiar with Mate, but try opening the file browser. At least on Gnome, the available partitions are listed in the list on the left and you can click to mount them. Bingo! I see two

Re: homed

2020-05-03 Thread Joe Zeff
On 05/03/2020 02:49 PM, Mike Wright wrote: /run/user/ seems pertenant If memory serves, that's a virtual filesystem that gets created at boot and doesn't survive reboot or shut down. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To

Re: homed

2020-05-03 Thread Mike Wright
On 5/3/20 12:16 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 5/3/20 6:37 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: Especially since there's plenty of stuff outside of your home directory that's tied to your userid and groupid. /var/spool/mail, for example. What is this plenty of stuff?  That's one example.  What else?

Re: Upgrade to 32 stymied

2020-05-03 Thread Frank
On 2020-05-03 2:10 p.m., Ranjan Maitra wrote: So, it appears based on your description that rxvt on F32 is behind rxvt on F31. I suspect that in this situation I would do one of two things. 1. Wait a few days and let the problem take care of itself as the F32 package gets updated. 2. dnf

Re: homed

2020-05-03 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 5/3/20 6:37 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: Especially since there's plenty of stuff outside of your home directory that's tied to your userid and groupid. /var/spool/mail, for example. What is this plenty of stuff? That's one example. What else? Oh, we're not supposed read mail any more,

Re: homed

2020-05-03 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 5/3/20 3:35 AM, J.Witvliet--- via users wrote: Please use a different client that doesn't break threading. Or however you're doing header mangling. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to

Re: Upgrade to 32 stymied

2020-05-03 Thread Ranjan Maitra
So, it appears based on your description that rxvt on F32 is behind rxvt on F31. I suspect that in this situation I would do one of two things. 1. Wait a few days and let the problem take care of itself as the F32 package gets updated. 2. dnf erase rxvt and upgrade. Then, after the system

Re: NetworkManager stymies me again

2020-05-03 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 3 May 2020 13:27:02 -0400 Tom Horsley wrote: > But, I've defined a bridge with (seemingly) all the > same properties as the fedora 31 bridge I created > with network-scripts, yet my virtual machines using > bridge networking never get an IP address, as if the > router dhcp server never

Re: Opera Mail & Browser after upgrading Fedora31 to Fedora32 . Ed Greshko.

2020-05-03 Thread stan via users
On Sun, 3 May 2020 21:45:39 +0800 Ed Greshko wrote: > On 2020-05-03 21:24, Ger van Dijck wrote: > > Second problem : Also a long time ago , don't ask me when or where > > I found opera-12.16-1860.x86_64.rpm and installed it. Purpose was > > and is the possibility to use opera mail wich long ago

Re: Lost Mate-panel

2020-05-03 Thread Beartooth
On Sat, 02 May 2020 14:24:41 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: > I'm not familiar with Mate, but try opening the file browser. At least > on Gnome, the available partitions are listed in the list on the left > and you can click to mount them. Bingo! I see two choices that are way too big to

NetworkManager stymies me again

2020-05-03 Thread Tom Horsley
I was finally going to try to setup my network using nm in fedora 32. I figured after 10 years or so all the bits I use might finally work :-). But, I've defined a bridge with (seemingly) all the same properties as the fedora 31 bridge I created with network-scripts, yet my virtual machines using

Upgrade to 32 stymied

2020-05-03 Thread Frank
I am blocked upgrading my 31 to 32. Updated 31, and did the "sudo dnf system-upgrade download --releasever=32 --allowerasing". It dl 1.2 gigs of packages, and at the very end told me rxvt was being blocked because of a conflict with the newer version. I then ran "sudo dnf system-upgrade

Re: How to turn of Intel VGA controller?

2020-05-03 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2020-05-03 at 16:35 +0200, AV wrote: > > Well, Fedora installs the Intel driver as a matter of course. I > > suppose I could try keeping the intel modules from loading into the > > kernel, though I don't know exactly which ones those are. But I can > > look it up. Maybe that will force

Re: How to turn of Intel VGA controller?

2020-05-03 Thread AV
On Sat, 2020-05-02 at 16:54 -0400, William Oliver wrote: > On Sat, 2020-05-02 at 17:48 -0300, George N. White III wrote:On Sat, > 2 May 2020 at 15:08, William Oliver wrote: > > > I am running Fedora 31 on an HP Envy 17t laptop with a NVIDIA > > > MX250 gpu. I have installed the NVIDIA driver

Re: Opera Mail & Browser after upgrading Fedora31 to Fedora32 . Ed Greshko.

2020-05-03 Thread Ed Greshko
On 2020-05-03 21:24, Ger van Dijck wrote: > Hi all , Hi Ed , > > > I did some thinking and studying : A long time ago I found somewhere > opera-stable-54.0.2952.71-1.fc29R.x86_64.rpm but I don't know and have > fotgotten where . > I installed it and in the version fc29, -fc30, and -fc31 it runs

Re: homed

2020-05-03 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Tim via users writes: On Sat, 2020-05-02 at 23:29 -0500, Javier Perez wrote: > Reading this article, I am beginning to really detest systemd > Why does it have to hang its tentacles on the home directory? > > https://www.techrepublic.com/article/linux-home-directory-management-is-

Opera Mail & Browser after upgrading Fedora31 to Fedora32 . Ed Greshko.

2020-05-03 Thread Ger van Dijck
Hi all , Hi Ed , I did some thinking and studying : A long time ago I found somewhere opera-stable-54.0.2952.71-1.fc29R.x86_64.rpm but I don't know and have fotgotten where . I installed it and in the version fc29, -fc30, and -fc31 it runs fine. In the version fc32 the application won't

Re: gaupol

2020-05-03 Thread François Patte
Le 03/05/2020 à 13:19, Ed Greshko a écrit : > On 2020-05-03 19:08, François Patte wrote: >> Bonjour, >> >> Does anybody know gaupol? I want to open a video file mp4 and the answer >> is: >> gst-core-error-quark: a plugin is missing in your gstreamer installation >> >> Ok, but which plugin? I have

Re: gaupol

2020-05-03 Thread François Patte
Le 03/05/2020 à 13:19, Ed Greshko a écrit : > On 2020-05-03 19:08, François Patte wrote: >> Bonjour, >> >> Does anybody know gaupol? I want to open a video file mp4 and the answer >> is: >> gst-core-error-quark: a plugin is missing in your gstreamer installation >> >> Ok, but which plugin? I have

Re: Opera

2020-05-03 Thread Ed Greshko
On 2020-05-03 19:27, Tim via users wrote: > On Sun, 2020-05-03 at 14:26 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: >> Why don't you use their official repo? > How did you find that out? If I visit their site and look for a Linux > download link, all I get offered is a debian package. > I googled "opera browser

Re: Opera

2020-05-03 Thread Tim via users
On Sun, 2020-05-03 at 14:26 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > Why don't you use their official repo? How did you find that out? If I visit their site and look for a Linux download link, all I get offered is a debian package. -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1127.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Mar 31 23:36:51

Re: homed

2020-05-03 Thread Tim via users
On Sat, 2020-05-02 at 23:29 -0500, Javier Perez wrote: > Reading this article, I am beginning to really detest systemd > Why does it have to hang its tentacles on the home directory? > > https://www.techrepublic.com/article/linux-home-directory-management-is-about-to-undergo-major-change/

Re: gaupol

2020-05-03 Thread Ed Greshko
On 2020-05-03 19:08, François Patte wrote: > Bonjour, > > Does anybody know gaupol? I want to open a video file mp4 and the answer > is: > gst-core-error-quark: a plugin is missing in your gstreamer installation > > Ok, but which plugin? I have no crystal ball and try randomly some > plugins... >

Re: homed

2020-05-03 Thread Tim via users
Javier Perez: >> If we continue like this, soon Linux will have a "Registry" and >> "Registry Editor" Samuel Sieb: > Have you not heard of dconf and dconf-editor? They're pretty good > too. This must be some new definition of "good" that I haven't heard of. Let's go wading through a forest of

gaupol

2020-05-03 Thread François Patte
Bonjour, Does anybody know gaupol? I want to open a video file mp4 and the answer is: gst-core-error-quark: a plugin is missing in your gstreamer installation Ok, but which plugin? I have no crystal ball and try randomly some plugins... I failed! Does anyone know which plugin is necessary to

Re: homed

2020-05-03 Thread J.Witvliet--- via users
From: "Javier Perez" mailto:pepeb...@gmail.com>> Date: Sunday, 3 May 2020 at 08:02:29 To: "Community support for Fedora users" mailto:users@lists.fedoraproject.org>> Subject: Re: homed I wonder about that "encryption". They are encrypting MY home directories with a key that I do not know. I

Re: homed

2020-05-03 Thread J.Witvliet--- via users
From: "Javier Perez" mailto:pepeb...@gmail.com>> Date: Sunday, 3 May 2020 at 06:30:52 To: "Community support for Fedora users" mailto:users@lists.fedoraproject.org>> Subject: homed Reading this article, I am beginning to really detest systemd Why does it have to hang its tentacles on the

Re: [Solved for blender] Re: How to turn of Intel VGA controller?

2020-05-03 Thread Ed Greshko
On 2020-05-03 17:49, William Oliver wrote: > On Sun, 2020-05-03 at 07:58 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: >> On 2020-05-03 07:54, Ed Greshko wrote: >>> I suppose, for testing, I'll download from the blender site and try >>> it? >> Well, I just download the tar file, extracted and ran. >> >> And, it

Re: [Solved for blender] Re: How to turn of Intel VGA controller?

2020-05-03 Thread William Oliver
On Sun, 2020-05-03 at 07:58 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 2020-05-03 07:54, Ed Greshko wrote: > > I suppose, for testing, I'll download from the blender site and try > > it? > > Well, I just download the tar file, extracted and ran. > > And, it detected my GPU just fine. > > GeForce GTX 660

Re: Opera

2020-05-03 Thread Ed Greshko
On 2020-05-03 14:30, David wrote: > Does Opera and Brave work good on wayland ? For how little I've tested it, yes. -- The key to getting good answers is to ask good questions. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe

Re: Opera

2020-05-03 Thread David
Thank you. I have never heard of that. I do not have a reason to switch from Firefox though. I have tinkered briefly with Web and IceCat. Does Opera and Brave work good on wayland ? ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To

Re: Opera

2020-05-03 Thread Ed Greshko
On 2020-05-03 14:13, David wrote: > I think I recall a fuzzy memory of installing Opera using a third-party repo > called "UnitedRPM."    It did not work for me.  That was probably at least > six months ago. Why don't you use their official repo? sudo tee /etc/yum.repos.d/opera.repo

Re: Opera

2020-05-03 Thread David
I think I recall a fuzzy memory of installing Opera using a third-party repo called "UnitedRPM."It did not work for me. That was probably at least six months ago. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email

Re: homed

2020-05-03 Thread Javier Perez
I wonder about that "encryption". They are encrypting MY home directories with a key that I do not know. I imagine it will be somewhat associated to my login password, but still, what could go wrong? On Sun, May 3, 2020 at 12:40 AM Ed Greshko wrote: > On 2020-05-03 12:53, Samuel Sieb wrote: >