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>
>
> On 12/25/16 16:41, Joel Rees wrote:
>> I got a happy birthday e-mail just now that purports to be from
>> fedoraforum@googlemail.com.
>>
>> Anyone know whether it is likely
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> 25.12.2016, 10.41, Joel Rees kirjoitti:
>> I got a happy birthday e-mail just now that purports to be from
>> fedoraforum@googlemail.com.
>>
>> Anyone know whether it is likely t
I got a happy birthday e-mail just now that purports to be from
fedoraforum@googlemail.com.
Anyone know whether it is likely to be legit?
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I'm imagining I'm a novelist:
http://joels-random-eikaiwa.blogspot.com/2016/11/simplife01-1-meet-the-pilots.html
watch baseball, FWIW. :)
I didn't have "Never send to spam" checked. Guess I missed it somehow. :(
Still, there is a problem with the way e-mail is handled.
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I'm imagining I'm a novelist:
http://joel-rees-economics.blogspot.com/2016/06/econ101-novel-toc.htm
To keep this off-list as much as possible, the rant is here:
http://reiisi.blogspot.com/2016/07/to-gil-tim-fedora-et-al.html
(The blame lies elsewhere. I wish I had the network and social cred to
get a real movement started, away from the current faceless CA system
and towards a different
2014/07/04 3:52 Jonathan Ryshpan jonr...@pacbell.net:
On Thu, 2014-07-03 at 13:12 -0500, Kevin Martin wrote:
On 07/03/2014 12:47 PM, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:
I run a small weather station that acts as a web server. Recently
it's
become impossible to access it via the web, though I can
. Nobody will read them until long after the bad things happened
and left the system corrupted.
Enforced universalism is the last thing we want computers for.
[...]
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Look first in your own heart.
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On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 10:11 PM, Joel Rees joel.r...@gmail.com wrote:
First time to try to use wireless since installing F17. Connects, but
doesn't succeed at authorizing. Keeps trying to authorize for several
minutes, then gives up.
/var/log/messages shows stuff like
NetworkManager[483
tomorrow, but I'm curious as to why I would need
to do the set up by hand for F17 when F16 just did its thing and it
worked.
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, but all the fussing with the
upgrade that ate my winter break leaves me running way behind. No
time. (And not a lot of motivation, frankly.)
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On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 7:57 AM, Geoffrey Leach ge...@hughes.net wrote:
On 01/03/2013 04:03:57 AM, Joel Rees wrote:
After the problems of the last weekend, starting getting strange
stuff
where the keyboard would freeze if sat on the screensaver login
screen
too long. Problem got worse
On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 8:44 PM, Marko Vojinovic vvma...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, 4 Jan 2013 19:23:29 +0900
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On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 7:57 AM, Geoffrey Leach ge...@hughes.net
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This sounds like the problem being tracked by this thread:
https
far.
Any ideas what's going on here?
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On 01/02/2013 08:19 AM, Joel Rees wrote:
On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 8:57 PM, Tim ignored_mail...@yahoo.com.au wrote:
Allegedly, on or about 29 December 2012, Joel Rees sent:
I'm beginning to think the ISP has throttled me
unblock the .cn domain to see if I can find out more.
HTTP access has no problems, even while yum is bogged down.
Do we have problems in the mirrors, or has my database for
updates/primary_db gone wonky?
Clean all doesn't help.
On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 11:07 PM, Joel Rees joel.r...@gmail.com wrote
On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 8:57 PM, Tim ignored_mail...@yahoo.com.au wrote:
Allegedly, on or about 29 December 2012, Joel Rees sent:
I'm beginning to think the ISP has throttled me for yum.
Could just be the time of the year, with more traffic than usual.
Definitely a possibility, particularly
On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 10:27 PM, Joel Rees joel.r...@gmail.com wrote:
Is/are there any sort of yum group(s) that would aid in building an OS
install that includes the security lab stuff? (Tried yum groupinfo
Security Lab and got no carrot. Somehow I found the menu package,
but that doesn't
Is/are there any sort of yum group(s) that would aid in building an OS
install that includes the security lab stuff? (Tried yum groupinfo
Security Lab and got no carrot. Somehow I found the menu package,
but that doesn't automatically populate the menu with installed
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and systemd, I have no idea where else needs to
be set up.
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On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 9:25 PM, Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com wrote:
On 12/30/2012 08:02 PM, Joel Rees wrote:
Used the netinstall CD image on a USB stick to install the minimal
install -- F17 64 bit.
Boots to the text console.
yum groupinstalled Window Managers, X Window System
On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 9:22 PM, Maciek Borzęcki
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On Sun, 2012-12-30 at 21:02 +0900, Joel Rees wrote:
What do I need to look for? With all the earth moving under our feet
because of /usr merge and systemd, I have no idea where else needs to
be set up.
Check
that
don't require rebooting just to start the install.)
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On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 7:58 PM, Mika Suomalainen mka...@outlook.com wrote:
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On 29.12.2012 01:07, Joel Rees wrote:
So I want to block yum from going to any domain in .cn .
Is there an easy way to do it, either in yum.conf or in
yum.repos.d
Never mind.
I'll just chalk another one up to the wrecking crew, install fresh in
a 15G partition and figure out where to go from there.
And the engineers whose hubris pushed this accursed merge /usr project
have my eternal disrespect.
On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 1:31 PM, Joel Rees joel.r
(Sorry for the spam, Alan.)
On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 8:24 PM, Alan Cox a...@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk wrote:
On Fri, 28 Dec 2012 20:12:43 +0900
Joel Rees joel.r...@gmail.com wrote:
Never mind.
I'll just chalk another one up to the wrecking crew, install fresh in
a 15G partition and figure out
servers as I refresh
them. That would be a lot of work, too.)
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On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 7:52 AM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote:
Am 28.12.2012 23:43, schrieb Joel Rees:
I'm wondering if anyone has ventured to move /usr after the install.
If so, how badly does it bite?
if selinux is disabled it should be quite easy to move anything
On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 8:43 AM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote:
Am 29.12.2012 00:20, schrieb Joel Rees:
On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 7:52 AM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net
wrote:
Am 28.12.2012 23:43, schrieb Joel Rees:
I'm wondering if anyone has ventured to move /usr
not want to do
this, but for the time being, it's very useful.)
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home edition or
whatever Microsoft calls their attempt to answer freedom with the
dole-by-force. Not that I agree with combining /bin and /usr/bin, but
in this case I had hard reasons, not just the ones that will become
obvious next year when it all hits the fan.)
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Well, I looked around with the rescue mode, and it looks like the
netinstall failed to install the kernel and associated files. And
grub2 can only find f16 kernels.
On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 9:56 AM, Joel Rees joel.r...@gmail.com wrote:
I was planning things out, then I thought, just maybe it'll
it rather than letting the company
succumb to the demands?
Oracle is clearly aligning itself against Google here. Having lost the
battle over Java in court, they now think their interests will be best
served if Microsoft can succeed in getting a sideways tax on Android
through Linux.
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On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 1:23 AM, Mateusz Marzantowicz
mmarzantow...@osdf.com.pl wrote:
On 20.06.2012 16:13, Joel Rees wrote:
Tried preupgrade, but it can't find my old system, and kicks the
upgrade process to the curb.
Then I tried the netinstall CD and it can't find my old system, either
On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 6:55 AM, Mateusz Marzantowicz
mmarzantow...@osdf.com.pl wrote:
On 22.06.2012 19:29, Joel Rees wrote:
On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 1:23 AM, Mateusz Marzantowicz
mmarzantow...@osdf.com.pl wrote:
On 20.06.2012 16:13, Joel Rees wrote:
Tried preupgrade, but it can't find my old
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netinstall CD appears to be unable to mount LVM partitions.
Does anyone know of a work-around short of backing up /etc and /home
and doing a fresh install?
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what group owns the modem port and
adding your user to that group?
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On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote:
Am 26.05.2012 07:45, schrieb Joel Rees:
Do you understand the reason you still set up swap, even though your
entire workload working set fits into RAM?
there is no single reason if you have enough RAM
In an ideal
On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 9:36 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote:
Am 17.05.2012 14:29, schrieb Joel Rees:
you can guess how long it takes dump 16 GB to disk and load
it
Guess,
Or calculate?
calculate it
I'd like to see your calculations, although I got a clue from your
understand the reason you still set up swap, even though your
entire workload working set fits into RAM?
compared with a full boot between 10 and 30 seconds (30
seconds with a LOT of services like mail, www, mysql...)
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On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 8:06 PM, Jonathan Allen
jonat...@barumtrading.co.uk wrote:
Joe Zeff said:
/home/user/.xsession-errors would be another good place to check.
Here is it - should that tell me how to go forward
in the task bar panel.
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That is, kill the stalled session, empty a cache, try logging in again.
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misinterpreting something, most likely the drive letters (which, as
you might know, tend not to be stable, and, particularly not the same
letters when grub sees them at boot as when the OS, including the grub
tools, see them after the boot-up process is complete).
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Have you tried the brutal method of deleting the caches or the xfce state?
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On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 10:34 PM, Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com wrote:
On 04/14/2012 09:11 PM, Joel Rees wrote:
With the old flash plugin, youtube works fine.
May put
flash in one account on the box I'm using here, to see if it's perhaps
a CPU or other hardware issue but not now
On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 2:10 PM, Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com wrote:
On 04/14/2012 01:03 PM, Joel Rees wrote:
Anyone else having issues with this version of flash? -- Shockwave Flash
11.2 r202.
No problems at all with flash/youtube on firefox.
However, I'm installing from the adobe
On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 3:30 PM, Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com wrote:
On 04/14/2012 02:15 PM, Joel Rees wrote:
Well, I just downloaded the tarball once more, and took a look. cmp
says today's tarball is different from yesterdays. Unpacking the
tarball and doing a diff -r reveals
On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 5:08 PM, Joel Rees joel.r...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 3:30 PM, Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com wrote:
On 04/14/2012 02:15 PM, Joel Rees wrote:
Well, I just downloaded the tarball once more, and took a look. cmp
says today's tarball is different from
Proof my brain has not been working right lately --
On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Joel Rees joel.r...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 9:50 AM, Rick Stevens
rstev...@corp.alldigital.com wrote:
On 04/10/2012 03:55 PM, Joel Rees wrote:
Anybody using XFCE or LXDE who are missing
of flash? -- Shockwave Flash
11.2 r202.
And anyone have an idea why the owner of a file would end up 5000+userid?
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moved --
()[]{}'=;:+*-_\| and so forth -- where you'd type a user name. You
often have to think in reverse, of course, as in, I thought I was
typing left-bracket, what would that have been?
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either.
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On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 8:40 AM, Joe Zeff j...@zeff.us wrote:
On 04/11/2012 04:02 PM, Joel Rees wrote:
Of course, you can always try the keys that might have moved --
()[]{}'=;:+*-_\| and so forth -- where you'd type a user name. You
often have to think in reverse, of course, as in, I thought
On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 8:50 AM, Joe Zeff j...@zeff.us wrote:
On 04/11/2012 04:36 PM, Joel Rees wrote:
He says you've misinterpreted him, which is another communication sin
(in that it doesn't lead to communication) that we are all sometimes
prone to.
As I wrote before, I wasn't personally
On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 8:50 AM, Joe Zeff j...@zeff.us wrote:
On 04/11/2012 04:36 PM, Joel Rees wrote:
He says you've misinterpreted him, which is another communication sin
(in that it doesn't lead to communication) that we are all sometimes
prone to.
As I wrote before, I wasn't personally
there's something that needs to be done, don't
remember exactly what.)
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On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 9:50 AM, Rick Stevens
rstev...@corp.alldigital.com wrote:
On 04/10/2012 03:55 PM, Joel Rees wrote:
Anybody using XFCE or LXDE who are missing their hibernate button in
the logout dialog after the recent kernel upgrade?
Which new kernel? I'm running 3.3.1-3.fc16
.
Joel Rees:
Maybe user-id is mis-named. There are sure a lot of people who tend
to see user-id and expect the one-to-one correspondence. I know the
conflation caused me some frustration back in college, and I'm not
In case it helps:
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/conflation
sure I got
(woops, missed the user list)
On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 5:47 PM, Bryn M. Reeves b...@redhat.com wrote:
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On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 3:27 PM, Tim ignored_mail...@yahoo.com.au
wrote: s/some/a lot of/
if you set
On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 9:31 PM, Tim ignored_mail...@yahoo.com.au wrote:
On Tue, 2012-04-03 at 16:10 +0900, Joel Rees wrote:
Well, there is a reason some people don't want universal ID, for example.
It's a lot broader topic than you may want to believe. It's similar to the
reason your httpd
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 2:05 AM, Bryn M. Reeves b...@redhat.com wrote:
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Good point. I don't visit those sites, and it's important for me
to mention that. No p0rn, period, and many of the moral reasons
On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 2:56 PM, Danishka Navin danis...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 11:22 AM, Joel Rees joel.r...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 10:52 AM, Danishka Navin danis...@gmail.com
wrote:
yum groupinstall 'Sugar Desktop Environment'
Not exactly the question I
to grab a
download. Does that make sense?
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On Sun, Apr 1, 2012 at 12:53 PM, nomnex nom...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 15:18:00 +0900
Joel Rees joel.r...@gmail.com wrote:
Lenovo S-100 pseudo-netbook (intel 64 running 32 bit) with Fedora
installed from the F16 Security spin (LXDE) live USB.
Posted earlier, no response, about
Not a really important question, but does anyone know why
sugar-desktop doesn't show when you do a yum grouplist?
(I suppose I should get back on the sugar lists.)
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of sugar-desktop on F15.
Unless I've been consistently mis-typing sugar-desktop on F15.
On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 5:10 AM, Joel Rees joel.r...@gmail.com wrote:
Not a really important question, but does anyone know why
sugar-desktop doesn't show when you do a yum grouplist?
(I suppose I should get back
that didn't get picked up
in the dependency check when I installed it. Anyone have a suggestion?
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I'll just note that you are not alone in questioning the wisdom of the
current directions. (Yeah, plural. That's part of the problem.)
Not alone in your frustrations, either.
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On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 8:38 AM, Joel Rees joel.r...@gmail.com wrote:
Filed a bug on this, redhat bugzilla 80286
On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 10:01 AM, Joel Rees joel.r...@gmail.com wrote:
I have openbox (from the F16 security live image via live USB install)
on a lenovo s100 and, sometime
Erk. Za Bog Numer. Ji baggu no bango.
On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 6:34 PM, Joel Rees joel.r...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 8:38 AM, Joel Rees joel.r...@gmail.com wrote:
Filed a bug on this, redhat bugzilla 80286
Make that bugzilla 802086.
On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 10:01 AM, Joel Rees
On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 4:00 PM, Joe Zeff j...@zeff.us wrote:
On 03/29/2012 11:18 PM, Joel Rees wrote:
I'm sure I need some library for LibreOffice that didn't get picked up
in the dependency check when I installed it. Anyone have a suggestion?
Try having yum reinstall it.
First I tried re
giving the car
owner a rope to tie his car door shut when there's already a perfectly
good lock on the door. Or screen doors on a submarine, take your pick.
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complained about the post being OT are the ones who
dragged the list into the discussion, if you ask me.)
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Filed a bug on this, redhat bugzilla 80286
On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 10:01 AM, Joel Rees joel.r...@gmail.com wrote:
I have openbox (from the F16 security live image via live USB install)
on a lenovo s100 and, sometime in the last couple of kernel updates,
it likes to hang up on logging out
telinit 2 and
then log back in and telinit 5 to bring it back, but the next time I
tried that without re-booting, it just hung. (Not sure what target I
would be specifying for systemctl
Not sure what to look for in /var/log.
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(I wish I would quit forgetting important details.)
On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 5:47 PM, Joel Rees joel.r...@gmail.com wrote:
This was my second try at a live USB, and I decided to experiment with
an encrypted volume for /home. Used a bunch of leetsp3@k substitutions
... I mean, for the passphrase
.
:-/
[...]
(What seems clear one day for me is not the next. And I was hoping to
grow old gracefully. :()
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the thread, but burying it seems like a good option, too.)
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Have
the chance to reminisce about an old 6800 protyping
board, building (though not desgining) my own high-speed cassette
interface, designing and building my own dRAM refresh circuit,
hand-assembling and typing in a FORTH interpreter in hex, by hand, and
...
Oh, never mind.
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the only one who runs a yum update before I have breakfast every morning?
;)
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bullet, but now he has
paint all over one of his best shirts, so to speak. And you completely
missed the Neal Becker at which you got upset.
On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 8:05 AM, Linda McLeod lindavald...@fastmail.fm wrote:
[a bunch of stuff that does not need repeating]
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, the mass migration to the
forums is not what it would seem, for several reasons.
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I finally added a bug for this to the Fedora bugzilla:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=771284
On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 6:24 PM, Joachim Backes
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On 12/23/2011 09:46 AM, Joel Rees wrote:
On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 2:57 PM, Joachim Backes
joachim.bac
A bug for the change in /bin/nologin default shell behavior has been
recently added to the freedesktop bugzilla:
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=44408
On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 6:08 PM, Joel Rees joel.r...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 1:19 PM, Craig White craigwh
eyeball filter missed last week before dumping the spambox. (I have a
copy of the message, but I like to keep the envelopes around for a
while.)
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, if you
have a default user group, whether assigned primary or secondary, you
don't want to ever assign a login user the same uid number.
Thanks, Franta
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don't want to ever assign a login user the same uid number.
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On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 1:26 AM, Patrick Lists
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On 30-12-11 07:29, Joel Rees wrote:
Reading her posts often reminds me of trying to teach my sisters how
to use something on the computer. All of them at once, on a day when
they definitely have their wires
not really relevant here, is it?)
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On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 3:02 AM, Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com wrote:
On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 07:43:30 +0900
Joel Rees joel.r...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 11:56 AM, Joel Rees joel.r...@gmail.com
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Also, Gnome's fallback has the same issues with loss of title bar
On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 11:56 AM, Joel Rees joel.r...@gmail.com wrote:
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Also, Gnome's fallback has the same issues with loss of title bar.
No idea there.
Haven't checked yet to see if that's fixed.
As Aaron indicates, Gnome is fixed, too.
Now, what I am curious about is what kind
On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 12:47 PM, Craig White craigwh...@azapple.com wrote:
On Thu, 2011-12-29 at 11:56 +0900, Joel Rees wrote:
Logged in as a different user, XFCE is running on that user. One
difference is that I have flash installed locally in the user that has
the problems. (It's about
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