Re: End of i686 Support

On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 7:41 AM, Tim wrote: > > And, is it still feasible to run the OS on old hardware? On my older > 32-bit PCs, the notion of running Gnome or KDE is impossible. They're > too slow for being fancy with the graphics card. And, some can't even >

Re: End of i686 Support

On 06/09/17 12:41, Tim wrote: Robin Laing And, is it still feasible to run the OS on old hardware? On my older 32-bit PCs, the notion of running Gnome or KDE is impossible. They're too slow for being fancy with the graphics card. And, some can't even run a modern distro, because they can only

Re: End of i686 Support

I had to switch to linux mint on two old machines because for some reason, the X11 server refused to start to get on a graphical session. Not Cool On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 7:09 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On 09/06/2017 01:41 PM, Tim wrote: > >> And, is it still feasible to

Re: End of i686 Support

On 09/06/2017 01:41 PM, Tim wrote: And, is it still feasible to run the OS on old hardware? Why should it not be? Just because some $DEITY@Redhat has decided you to throw away your old hardware you must do so? Up to fc25 it was technically perfectly possible to run Fedora on a variety of

Re: End of i686 Support

Robin Laing >> BUT. How many of these places are actually running Linux at >> all? This is a question to be asked. If the usage is small, then >> dropping support may be an matter of economy of development >> resources. Jeff Backus > Yes, this is a very important part of the question. If

Re: End of i686 Support

Allegedly, on or about 5 September 2017, Jeff Backus sent: > One of the reasons this issue has come up is because it is quite > difficult to quantify how popular a feature is within Fedora. All my computers are old, and there's a mix of 32- and 64-bit PCs. I'm loath to junk working PCs just

Re: End of i686 Support

On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 9:13 AM, Matthew Miller wrote: > > It's true that we're not "catering to your personal needs", but that's > not really the issue. As I've explained before, what we need is people > willing to show up and put in the effort, not just ask that other >

Re: End of i686 Support

On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 8:05 AM, Christopher Ross wrote: > > Thanks for the heads up; I have just joined the x86 list on your prompting. Quite welcome! Welcome aboard! > For my part I have a lovely, powerful, 64-bit desktop/gaming machine but my > laptop is an old 32-bit

Re: End of i686 Support

On Sun, Sep 3, 2017 at 11:07 PM, Robin Laing wrote: > Myself have two i686 machines running. One will be disposed of in the next > month or two. The second one is great for emergencies and as a travel > (where stupid spy/scan laws prevail) throw away computer. > > If

Re: End of i686 Support

On Sun, Sep 3, 2017 at 7:54 PM, Eddie O'Connor wrote: > While I myself don't have any x86 hardware, I know many people whom I've > introduced to Linux that are running it on their x86 machines. SO yes, this > architecture should still be supported, (at least until

Re: End of i686 Support

On Tue, Sep 05, 2017 at 05:14:33AM +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > running Fedora, but I am now looking for alternative distros because > Fedora's leadership apparently is not willing to cater my personal > needs. It's true that we're not "catering to your personal needs", but that's not really

Re: End of i686 Support

On 04/09/17 04:07, Robin Laing wrote: On 03/09/17 09:53, Jeff Backus wrote: As you may or may not be aware, there is an active discussion on the development side as to whether or not we continue to support the x86 architecture. ... Is x86 support still important to you? If so, then come

Re: End of i686 Support

On Sep 5 08:45, Andras Simon wrote: > 2017-09-05 5:14 GMT+02:00, Ralf Corsepius : > > On 09/04/2017 07:18 PM, Andras Simon wrote: > >> 2017-09-04 18:36 GMT+02:00, Ralf Corsepius : > >>> [...] > >>> > >>> Actually, I'd recommend Fedora/RH to drop all other

Re: End of i686 Support

2017-09-05 5:14 GMT+02:00, Ralf Corsepius : > On 09/04/2017 07:18 PM, Andras Simon wrote: >> 2017-09-04 18:36 GMT+02:00, Ralf Corsepius : >>> [...] >>> >>> Actually, I'd recommend Fedora/RH to drop all other "secondary" archs, >>> because they do not have

Re: End of i686 Support

On 09/04/2017 07:18 PM, Andras Simon wrote: 2017-09-04 18:36 GMT+02:00, Ralf Corsepius : [...] Actually, I'd recommend Fedora/RH to drop all other "secondary" archs, because they do not have a community user base. How do you know? - How many arm, s370, ppc or mips

Re: End of i686 Support

2017-09-04 18:36 GMT+02:00, Ralf Corsepius : >[...] > > Actually, I'd recommend Fedora/RH to drop all other "secondary" archs, > because they do not have a community user base. How do you know? ___ users mailing list --

Re: End of i686 Support

On 09/04/2017 05:20 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Mon, Sep 04, 2017 at 10:32:33AM -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: I'd hope the plan is to do this much the same way as centos. Drop i686 kernels and programs, but continue to provide i686 libraries for legacy 32 bit programs which have no source code so

Re: End of i686 Support

On Mon, Sep 04, 2017 at 10:32:33AM -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: > I'd hope the plan is to do this much the same way as centos. > Drop i686 kernels and programs, but continue to provide > i686 libraries for legacy 32 bit programs which have no > source code so they can continue to run. There are a lot

Re: End of i686 Support

I'd hope the plan is to do this much the same way as centos. Drop i686 kernels and programs, but continue to provide i686 libraries for legacy 32 bit programs which have no source code so they can continue to run. There are a lot of them out there people use (adobe reader comes to mind).

Re: End of i686 Support

On 03/09/17 09:53, Jeff Backus wrote: Hello Fedora! As you may or may not be aware, there is an active discussion on the development side as to whether or not we continue to support the x86 architecture. There are a lot of exciting things happening within the Fedora community on top of the

Re: End of i686 Support

While I myself don't have any x86 hardware, I know many people whom I've introduced to Linux that are running it on their x86 machines. SO yes, this architecture should still be supported, (at least until say...'20?...a nice round figure!) After that? I might make more sense to drop it since most

End of i686 Support

Hello Fedora! As you may or may not be aware, there is an active discussion on the development side as to whether or not we continue to support the x86 architecture. There are a lot of exciting things happening within the Fedora community on top of the amazing and significant effort we put