Re: Is this the Linux list for beginners

2010-05-29 Thread Larry Brower
Mercury Rising wrote: Linux seems a bit overwhelming to me, but I am determined to get it and learn it. Is this the right LISTSERV to be on? Elwin It is the right list to discuss and/or get general help for issues related to Fedora. -- users mailing list

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-29 Thread David Boles
On 5/29/2010 1:40 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 05/29/2010 01:29 PM, David Boles wrote: Hi Ed. Peace? I, for one, was never at war. Perhaps a problem on my part. If so I stand corrected. I thought I was clear in that it wasn't your problem. It is a limitation as to how the information

Re: Is this the Linux list for beginners

2010-05-29 Thread Roger
On 05/29/2010 04:01 PM, Larry Brower wrote: Mercury Rising wrote: Linux seems a bit overwhelming to me, but I am determined to get it and learn it. Is this the right LISTSERV to be on? Elwin It is the right list to discuss and/or get general help for issues related to Fedora.

Re: F13 hint for those with fat fingers

2010-05-29 Thread Richard Hughes
On 29 May 2010 03:11, Tom Horsley horsley1...@gmail.com wrote: Otherwise, packagekit will apparently spend some indeterminate amount of time trying to help you out by finding what package defines that command. There's also loads of stuff to tweak in /etc/PackageKit/CommandNotFound.conf

Re: Correct instructions for installing NVidia proprietary driver on Fedora 13?

2010-05-29 Thread Steven P. Ulrick
Hi Steven, On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 16:59, Steven P. Ulrick lists-fed...@afolkey2.netwrote: Hello Everyone, If the output of /sbin/lspci | grep VGA is: 03:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G94 [GeForce 9600 GT] (rev a1) are the correct instructions for

Preupgrade is slow

2010-05-29 Thread W.H. Kalpa Pathum
hi all, I'm trying to upgrade F12 to F13 and I'm using preupgrade-cli. Al though my internet connection is capable to transfer around 50kB/s, the preupgrade downloads files with around 20kB/s. Further it hangs a long times after a file is downloaded to begin the next file downloading. It's not

Re: F13: strange default for PDF viewer

2010-05-29 Thread Mike Williams
On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 6:53 AM, Jonathan Underwood jonathan.underw...@gmail.com wrote: On 28 May 2010 16:10, Marco Guazzone marco.guazz...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 3:16 PM, Rex Dieter rdie...@math.unl.edu wrote: Marco Guazzone wrote: Hi, I've noticed that the default PDF

F13: gnome volume control affects wrong audio channel

2010-05-29 Thread Colin Brace
Hi all, I did a fresh install of the 64-bit F13 on my desktop system. For the most part, everything works fine. One little hiccup: If I change the audio volume with the gnome volume control applet, it adjusts the *front channel* rather than PCM or Master channel. Since I have a second set of

Re: F13: strange default for PDF viewer

2010-05-29 Thread Marco Guazzone
On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 1:15 PM, Mike Williams dmikewilli...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 6:53 AM, Jonathan Underwood jonathan.underw...@gmail.com wrote: [...cut...] This bug claims that this was a firefox issue and fixed in ff 3.6

Cool it Down Please was: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-29 Thread Frank Murphy
/** replying to nobody, just a feeling */ Others readers may feel the same way? Can this thread be left for 24 hours, so temperatures hopefully will fall, and continue in a balanced fashion afterwards. https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/websites Is the list for the team who do

Re: radeon to nvidia to radeon produces pain

2010-05-29 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Fri, 28 May 2010, Michael Hennebry wrote: I'm on my third video card. The first was a radeon. After I zapped that one, I had it replaced with an nvidia card because it had AGP and I could find it. Having cooked or otherwise damaged that one, I replaced it with a VisionTek Radeon HD 3650.

F13: Delay in screen refresh

2010-05-29 Thread Marco Guazzone
Hi, I've noticed that there is a some kind of delay in the screen refresh. For instance, under VIM when I move the cursor (that is a black rectangle) under a character, it takes between 1 and 4 secs before the character appears inside the cursor. I've experienced the same issue under OpenOffice

Re: Correct instructions for installing NVidia proprietary driver on Fedora 13?

2010-05-29 Thread Andre Costa
On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 06:25, Steven P. Ulrick lists-fed...@afolkey2.netwrote: Hi Steven, On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 16:59, Steven P. Ulrick lists-fed...@afolkey2.netwrote: Hello Everyone, If the output of /sbin/lspci | grep VGA is: 03:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia

Re: radeon to nvidia to radeon produces pain

2010-05-29 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Fri, 28 May 2010, Michael Hennebry wrote: I'm on my third video card. The first was a radeon. After I zapped that one, I had it replaced with an nvidia card because it had AGP and I could find it. Having cooked or otherwise damaged that one, I replaced it with a VisionTek Radeon HD 3650.

How to resize RAID-1 partitions (mdraid)

2010-05-29 Thread Sam Varshavchik
I have a rack server with two drives, partitioned identically and assembled into RAID-1 arrays using mdraid. No CD/DVD drive. There is a USB port. Don't know if the server's BIOS will boot off a USB drive. I upgrade the server using pxeboot. I want to juggle these partitions around. It's not

Re: Correct instructions for installing NVidia proprietary driver on Fedora 13?

2010-05-29 Thread Pier Paolo
On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 15:52, Andre Costa blue...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 06:25, Steven P. Ulrick lists-fed...@afolkey2.net wrote: http://fedorasolved.org/video-solutions/nvidia-yum-kmod My problem was the boot setup, because if I recall correctly the nouveau

Re: How to resize RAID-1 partitions (mdraid)

2010-05-29 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 10:31:11 -0400, Sam Varshavchik mr...@courier-mta.com wrote: I want to juggle these partitions around. It's not clear to me if parted will handle RAID partitions. I think I should resize each partition on each drive identically, and parted should end up producing

Re: Fedora 13 + nvidia + kde

2010-05-29 Thread slamp slamp
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 11:01 PM, slamp slamp slack...@gmail.com wrote: I had a problem logging into KDE after an upgrade from Fedora 12. I have akmod-nvidia installed. To fix the login issue I had to remove /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 as I was seeing ksmserver: symbol lookup error:

Re: How to resize RAID-1 partitions (mdraid)

2010-05-29 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Bruno Wolff III writes: On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 10:31:11 -0400, Sam Varshavchik mr...@courier-mta.com wrote: I want to juggle these partitions around. It's not clear to me if parted will handle RAID partitions. I think I should resize each partition on each drive identically, and parted

Desktop effects -- yeah!

2010-05-29 Thread Sam Varshavchik
For the first time ever, I have eye candy, thanks to mesa-dri-drivers-experimental, on my laptop with an NV40 chip. Kudos all around. This is quite an accomplishment. pgpRYgklZYUOX.pgp Description: PGP signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change

Re: Desktop effects -- yeah!

2010-05-29 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/29/2010 08:52 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: For the first time ever, I have eye candy, thanks to mesa-dri-drivers-experimental, on my laptop with an NV40 chip. Kudos all around. This is quite an accomplishment. I assume you are referring to Compiz here. Have you tried GNOME Shell? # yum

Re: Desktop effects -- yeah!

2010-05-29 Thread Marvin Kosmal
HI Is there a shot of what this would look like before I try this.. #yum install gnome-shell I am running FC 12 yet.. Waiting for the downloads to quiet down before I upgrade. TIA Marvin On 5/29/10, Rahul Sundaram methe...@gmail.com wrote: On 05/29/2010 08:52 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: For

Re: Desktop effects -- yeah!

2010-05-29 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/29/2010 09:02 PM, Marvin Kosmal wrote: HI Is there a shot of what this would look like before I try this.. #yum install gnome-shell I am running FC 12 yet.. Waiting for the downloads to quiet down before I upgrade. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:Gnome-shell-f13.png Rahul --

Re: How to resize RAID-1 partitions (mdraid)

2010-05-29 Thread Roberto Ragusa
Sam Varshavchik wrote: That bad news, since these are existing partitions, so presumably the raid metadata is at the end. The good news is that I took a look at the current parted online manual, and it looks like there's some support in parted now. The current version of parted seems to

Re: radeon to nvidia to radeon produces pain

2010-05-29 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Fri, 28 May 2010, Michael Hennebry wrote: I'm on my third video card. The first was a radeon. After I zapped that one, I had it replaced with an nvidia card because it had AGP and I could find it. Having cooked or otherwise damaged that one, I replaced it with a VisionTek Radeon HD 3650.

Re: Rocket Fedora 13 media artwork

2010-05-29 Thread Valent Turkovic
On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 5:07 PM, Gene Heskett gene.hesk...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday 27 May 2010, Valent Turkovic wrote: On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 10:13 PM, Valent Turkovic valent.turko...@gmail.com wrote: http://fcoremix.wordpress.com/2010/05/26/rockets-artwork-for-fedora-13-me dia/ I

Re: radeon to nvidia to radeon produces pain

2010-05-29 Thread Craig White
On Sat, 2010-05-29 at 10:45 -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote: On Fri, 28 May 2010, Michael Hennebry wrote: I'm on my third video card. The first was a radeon. After I zapped that one, I had it replaced with an nvidia card because it had AGP and I could find it. Having cooked or otherwise

Re: Fedora 13 + nvidia + kde

2010-05-29 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Sat, 2010-05-29 at 11:06 -0400, slamp slamp wrote: On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 11:01 PM, slamp slamp slack...@gmail.com wrote: I had a problem logging into KDE after an upgrade from Fedora 12. I have akmod-nvidia installed. To fix the login issue I had to remove /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 as I was

Re: F13 install problem (/dev/fd0 error)

2010-05-29 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 21:45:13 -0500, Dale J. Chatham d...@chatham.org wrote: OK, I was an idiot. I took about 20 minutes yesterday looking for a way to disable the floppy. Today, it jumped out at me. Doh! I might suggest that timing out the attempt to query a floppy and moving on

Re: Rocket Fedora 13 media artwork

2010-05-29 Thread Michael Miles
On 05/29/2010 08:54 AM, Valent Turkovic wrote: On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 5:07 PM, Gene Heskettgene.hesk...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday 27 May 2010, Valent Turkovic wrote: On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 10:13 PM, Valent Turkovic valent.turko...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: Rocket Fedora 13 media artwork

2010-05-29 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 29 May 2010, Michael Miles wrote: On 05/29/2010 08:54 AM, Valent Turkovic wrote: On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 5:07 PM, Gene Heskettgene.hesk...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday 27 May 2010, Valent Turkovic wrote: On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 10:13 PM, Valent Turkovic valent.turko...@gmail.com

F13 nm_applet -- can't save vpnc VPN config

2010-05-29 Thread Terry Polzin
Message simply states; Can't write connect type 'vpn' doesn't matter who the user is fails for root as well. Worked fine in f12 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines:

Fedora 13 AdobeReader_enu nss-softokn-freebl multiple version conflict

2010-05-29 Thread Rich Emberson
Yesterday I installed Fedora 13, first on my laptop and then my main machine. Both are 64bit with nvidia cards. On the laptop everything went as expected, but on the big box I could not install AdobeReader_enu. When I try: yum install AdobeReader_enu I get the error message: Transaction Check

Did I mess up?

2010-05-29 Thread Gene Heskett
Greets all;' I put the F13-x86_64 dvd in the lappies drive and saw from the prelim screen that it could install or upgrade, so I checked the disk, it was good, and clicked next. Its installing now, over the F13 beta, but never once did it ask me if I wanted to update that install. Its no big

Re: Fedora 13 + nvidia + kde

2010-05-29 Thread slamp slamp
On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 12:05 PM, Matthew Saltzman m...@clemson.edu wrote: On Sat, 2010-05-29 at 11:06 -0400, slamp slamp wrote: On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 11:01 PM, slamp slamp slack...@gmail.com wrote: I had a problem logging into KDE after an upgrade from Fedora 12. I have akmod-nvidia

Re: Is this the Linux list for beginners

2010-05-29 Thread Patrick Bartek
--- On Fri, 5/28/10, Mercury Rising mercuryrisin...@gmail.com wrote: Linux seems a bit overwhelming to me, but I am determined to get it and learn it. Is this the right LISTSERV to be on? This list is specifically for Fedora Linux users. Many other distros have their own. Although, many of

Re: Preupgrade is slow

2010-05-29 Thread Patrick Bartek
--- On Sat, 5/29/10, W.H. Kalpa Pathum callka...@gmail.com wrote: I'm trying to upgrade F12 to F13 and I'm using preupgrade-cli. Al though my internet connection is capable to transfer around 50kB/s, the preupgrade downloads files with around 20kB/s. Further it hangs a long times after a

Re: Desktop effects -- yeah!

2010-05-29 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Rahul Sundaram writes: On 05/29/2010 08:52 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: For the first time ever, I have eye candy, thanks to mesa-dri-drivers-experimental, on my laptop with an NV40 chip. Kudos all around. This is quite an accomplishment. I assume you are referring to Compiz here. Have you

Fedora on netbook with 2GB of storage?

2010-05-29 Thread Valent Turkovic
Hi, does anybody know of any Fedora Remix that would work on HDD that is only 2GB? Asus eee 701 2G has only 2GB of storage and SD card reader doesn't work :( Even Ubuntu remixed are ok if you don't know any Fedora Remix that would fit and still be usable on 2GB of storage space. Cheers! --

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-29 Thread g
Ed Greshko wrote: snip So, you are suggesting that existing users that are aware of http://torrent.fedoraproject.org/ bookmark those pages, yes? bookmarks do help find pages when there is need to return to page. it is why i use them and i well give credit that that is why address books were

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-29 Thread g
David Boles wrote: snip He asked for ideas, suggestions and much more. if a wheel [1] is round and it rolls, then it is doing what it is supposed to. only way to improve it is to add bearings [2,3,4], which are nothing but more wheels. there was nothing wrong with 'get fedora 12 [1] page' as

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-29 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2010-05-29 at 01:29 -0400, David Boles wrote: My 'complaint'? all along has been was with the way that the gentleman that worked so hard on the site page for so long was attacked. Since Oct 2009 he worked to find what worked for all. First of all, the gentleman is a lady (an Anglicized

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-29 Thread g
David Boles wrote: snip Since Oct 2009 he worked to find what worked for all. I mean that. It was an on going effort. You may notice that a major success it that the KDE people did not feel slighted this time. :-) Tests and questions and more questions. Test pages and more test pages. and

Re: Cool it Down Please was: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-29 Thread g
Frank Murphy wrote: snip https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/websites Is the list for the team who do their best for the site. and when they do and have a new design, is it posted to this list for viewing and review? many followers of this list do not follow website design list.

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-29 Thread g
Tim wrote: snip Perhaps so, but that is the response you'll get when you act condescendingly towards criticism. There was a lack of people skills on both sides. and brought about by lacking forethought and sharing of intent by page designers. -- peace out. tc,hago. g . in a free

Re: A better name for spins... (was: Regarding Get Fedora page)

2010-05-29 Thread g
Gene Heskett wrote: snip In the USA, spin has a negative connotation. See spin doctor. in a very limited way. 'spin doctor' is more uk/european than it is in usa. spin is very common and used to mean rotate, revolve. ie, more commonly; spin: spin records, spin cd/dvd, spin tires, spin

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-29 Thread g
Rahul Sundaram wrote: snip Depends on when you did it. As I indicated before, there was some recent changes done in response to feedback here. which would have been unnecessary if web page designers had posted a link to this list notifying of a new page design before putting up new page.

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-29 Thread g
Sam Varshavchik wrote: snip I spent at least five minutes flipping through the pages, going back and forth in circles, looking for the torrent link, before throwing up my hands in disgust and jumping to Google. then you need to consider making bookmarks. :) -- peace out. tc,hago. g .

Re: Did I mess up?

2010-05-29 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2010-05-29 at 13:11 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: Greets all;' I put the F13-x86_64 dvd in the lappies drive and saw from the prelim screen that it could install or upgrade, so I checked the disk, it was good, and clicked next. Its installing now, over the F13 beta, but never once

Installing F13

2010-05-29 Thread Michael Miles
I would like to install F13 x64 I have seen the size difference in the partitions. Question: Do I have to reformat my F12 installation or will upgrade resize the boot partition? I did not select a seperate Home partition when I installed F12. I realize now I should have. -- users

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-29 Thread Michael Miles
On 05/29/2010 09:59 AM, g wrote: Sam Varshavchik wrote: snip I spent at least five minutes flipping through the pages, going back and forth in circles, looking for the torrent link, before throwing up my hands in disgust and jumping to Google. then you need to consider making

Re: Fedora 13 AdobeReader_enu nss-softokn-freebl multiple version conflict

2010-05-29 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sat, 29 May 2010 10:11:08 -0700, Rich wrote: Yesterday I installed Fedora 13, first on my laptop and then my main machine. Both are 64bit with nvidia cards. On the laptop everything went as expected, but on the big box I could not install AdobeReader_enu. When I try: yum install

preupgrade: not enough space again

2010-05-29 Thread Alan Evans
Preupgrade is complaining that I don't have enough space in /boot/upgrade. How much space is needed? Preupgrade is not telling me. It *did* tell me that I could continue if I had a wired network connection. I do have, so I continued; and then after finally downloading all the packages (much time)

Re: Installing F13

2010-05-29 Thread Michael Miles
On 05/29/2010 11:40 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sat, 2010-05-29 at 11:22 -0700, Michael Miles wrote: I would like to install F13 x64 I have seen the size difference in the partitions. Question: Do I have to reformat my F12 installation or will upgrade resize the boot partition?

Re: Is this the Linux list for beginners

2010-05-29 Thread Gerhard Magnus
On Sat, 2010-05-29 at 10:19 -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote: --- On Fri, 5/28/10, Mercury Rising mercuryrisin...@gmail.com wrote: Linux seems a bit overwhelming to me, but I am determined to get it and learn it. Is this the right LISTSERV to be on? This list is specifically for Fedora Linux

Re: How to resize RAID-1 partitions (mdraid)

2010-05-29 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Roberto Ragusa writes: Sam Varshavchik wrote: That bad news, since these are existing partitions, so presumably the raid metadata is at the end. The good news is that I took a look at the current parted online manual, and it looks like there's some support in parted now. The current version

Re: Preupgrade is slow

2010-05-29 Thread Marvin Kosmal
HI It wasn't my question but, I needed to hear the answer. I will wait.. Thanks Marvin On 5/29/10, Patrick Bartek bartek...@yahoo.com wrote: --- On Sat, 5/29/10, W.H. Kalpa Pathum callka...@gmail.com wrote: I'm trying to upgrade F12 to F13 and I'm using preupgrade-cli. Al though my

Re: F13 install problem (/dev/fd0 error)

2010-05-29 Thread Wolfgang S. Rupprecht
Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to writes: On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 21:45:13 -0500, Dale J. Chatham d...@chatham.org wrote: OK, I was an idiot. I took about 20 minutes yesterday looking for a way to disable the floppy. Today, it jumped out at me. Doh! I might suggest that timing out the

Re: Installing F13

2010-05-29 Thread Michael Miles
On 05/29/2010 11:40 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sat, 2010-05-29 at 11:22 -0700, Michael Miles wrote: I would like to install F13 x64 I have seen the size difference in the partitions. Question: Do I have to reformat my F12 installation or will upgrade resize the boot partition?

Re: Did I mess up?

2010-05-29 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 29 May 2010, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sat, 2010-05-29 at 13:11 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: Greets all;' I put the F13-x86_64 dvd in the lappies drive and saw from the prelim screen that it could install or upgrade, so I checked the disk, it was good, and clicked next. Its

Re: Installing F13

2010-05-29 Thread Michael Miles
On 05/29/2010 12:33 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sat, 2010-05-29 at 12:06 -0700, Michael Miles wrote: On 05/29/2010 11:40 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sat, 2010-05-29 at 11:22 -0700, Michael Miles wrote: I would like to install F13 x64 I have seen the size

F13 Workspace Switcher doesn't

2010-05-29 Thread BeartoothBBB
Using the new preupgrade from F12, I'm getting very mixed results. On one PC, it hit the space problem, told me to quit unless I had a wired Net connection (I did), and let me continue. Then it coped, and in very little time F13 was up and running, with all my old data still

Compiz configuration problem

2010-05-29 Thread Sam Varshavchik
I have Audible Bell checked in ccsm, but echo -e '\007' from a gnome-terminal window does not play the alert sound. I get the alert sound if I turn off compiz, or if I manually play it in Preferences → Sound. My audio configuration is fine. I played with other various settings in ccsm, but I

Personal file share (Bluetooth) folder elimination howto - Permantently?

2010-05-29 Thread KC8LDO
I keep getting the Bluetooth file sharing folder reappearing and I want to eliminate it - permanently. I'm not using Bluetooth or the personal file sharing feature. I erase the folder but it always seems to come back. How do I get rid of it once and for all? Leland C. Scott KC8LDO -- users

Re: How to resize RAID-1 partitions (mdraid)

2010-05-29 Thread Roberto Ragusa
Sam Varshavchik wrote: The disk partitions are as follows: Device /dev/sda1 /boot 100 megabytes /dev/sda2 / 20 gigabytes /dev/sda3 swap - 6 gigs /dev/sda4 Extended partition /dev/sda5 /home -- remaining space, large The layout of /dev/sdb is the same, and each partition on

Re: Did I mess up?

2010-05-29 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 29 May 2010, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sat, 2010-05-29 at 15:12 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: Did you select Upgrade over Install? It appears that once you do that, you're committed. It doesn't ask you again after the Grub config screen. IIRC this is a change from previous

Re: How to resize RAID-1 partitions (mdraid)

2010-05-29 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Roberto Ragusa writes: I never used parted, so if I had to achieve what you want I'd try something completely different. You have to use something to adjust the size of the ext3 filesystem. Growing the underlying mdraid device is not sufficient. Once the underlying block device is larger,

Re: Installing F13

2010-05-29 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Sat, 2010-05-29 at 15:03 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sat, 2010-05-29 at 12:06 -0700, Michael Miles wrote: On 05/29/2010 11:40 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sat, 2010-05-29 at 11:22 -0700, Michael Miles wrote: I would like to install F13 x64 I have seen the

Re: F13 install problem (/dev/fd0 error)

2010-05-29 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 11:54:25 -0700, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wolfgang.ruppre...@gmail.com wrote: Are floppies still used by most people? I can't recall the last time I tried to use one. If the floppy hardware is really so broken that it causes hangs, wouldn't it be better to just not

Re: preupgrade: not enough space again

2010-05-29 Thread Konstantin Svist
On 05/29/2010 11:39 AM, Alan Evans wrote: Preupgrade is complaining that I don't have enough space in /boot/upgrade. How much space is needed? Preupgrade is not telling me. It *did* tell me that I could continue if I had a wired network connection. I do have, so I continued; and then after

Latest F12 updates broken

2010-05-29 Thread Paolo Galtieri
As seems to happen more often than not the latest F12 updates are broken. Resolving Dependencies -- Running transaction check -- Processing Dependency: libetpan.so.13()(64bit) for package: cairo-dock-plug-ins-2.1.3.9-1.fc12.x86_64 --- Package libetpan.x86_64 0:1.0-1.fc12 set to be updated --

Re: preupgrade: not enough space again

2010-05-29 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Konstantin Svist writes: On 05/29/2010 11:39 AM, Alan Evans wrote: Preupgrade is complaining that I don't have enough space in /boot/upgrade. How much space is needed? Preupgrade is not telling me. It *did* tell me that I could continue if I had a wired network connection. I do have, so I

Re: preupgrade: not enough space again

2010-05-29 Thread Colin J Thomson
On Saturday 29 May 2010 22:05:12 Konstantin Svist wrote: On 05/29/2010 11:39 AM, Alan Evans wrote: Preupgrade is complaining that I don't have enough space in /boot/upgrade. How much space is needed? Preupgrade is not telling me. It *did* tell me that I could continue if I had a wired

Re: preupgrade: not enough space again

2010-05-29 Thread Alan Evans
On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 2:21 PM, Colin J Thomson co...@g6avk.demon.co.uk wrote: FYI, preupgrade does work with the default 200meg  /boot partition, I did it here on this small raid system, no LVM all ext4, F12 F13.. More info here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=573451 NOTE..

Re: preupgrade: not enough space again

2010-05-29 Thread Alan Evans
On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 2:05 PM, Konstantin Svist fry@gmail.com wrote: It told me the same thing. At that point, I booted from a live CD, installed gparted and resized the boot partition to take 500M (took space from swap, which was 2G). Then preupgrade succeeded perfectly and I'm running

First F13 roadblock

2010-05-29 Thread Tom Horsley
I've fully switched over to Fedora 13 as my primary system now, but I just encountered this bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=593042 Apparently after installing some random collection of firefox plugins, firefox stops working (it acts more like the number of plugins is important

Re: preupgrade: not enough space again

2010-05-29 Thread Jussi Lehtola
On Sat, 2010-05-29 at 14:55 -0700, Alan Evans wrote: Apparently, my default 200MB fell a bit short: $ df -h FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/mapper/vg_studio-lv_root 868G 266G 558G 33% / tmpfs 4.0G 1000K 4.0G 1% /dev/shm

Re: preupgrade: not enough space again

2010-05-29 Thread Colin J Thomson
On Saturday 29 May 2010 22:55:32 Alan Evans wrote: On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 2:21 PM, Colin J Thomson co...@g6avk.demon.co.uk wrote: FYI, preupgrade does work with the default 200meg /boot partition, I did it here on this small raid system, no LVM all ext4, F12 F13.. More info here:

Re: Installing F13

2010-05-29 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2010-05-29 at 15:49 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: Supposedly /boot cannot be ext4 as it's not yet supported by Grub, so I don't know how you got that to work. It iis my impresssion that the abovve is no longer true. It seems so. It can't be Btrfs but ext4 isn't explicitly

Re: preupgrade: not enough space again

2010-05-29 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2010-05-30 at 01:22 +0300, Jussi Lehtola wrote: I'm just wondering why we don't have a tool for yum upgrades that downloads the packages and after OK by the user drops down to single user mode and installs them, at the end trying a reboot once the operation is complete.. It's called

Re: preupgrade: not enough space again

2010-05-29 Thread Łukasz Jagiełło
2010/5/29 Colin J Thomson co...@g6avk.demon.co.uk: FYI, preupgrade does work with the default 200meg  /boot partition, I did it here on this small raid system, no LVM all ext4, F12 F13.. More info here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=573451 Everything working just remove all

Re: Cool it Down Please was: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-29 Thread Frank Murphy
On 29/05/10 17:46, g wrote: --snip-- and when they do and have a new design, is it posted to this list for viewing and review? many followers of this list do not follow website design list. Normally most important things are posted to: the announce list. (low volume) Which *everone*

Re: Installing F13

2010-05-29 Thread Michael Miles
On 05/29/2010 03:37 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sat, 2010-05-29 at 15:49 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: Supposedly /boot cannot be ext4 as it's not yet supported by Grub, so I don't know how you got that to work. It iis my impresssion that the abovve is no

Re: First F13 roadblock

2010-05-29 Thread Tom Horsley
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=593042 Apparently after installing some random collection of firefox plugins, firefox stops working (it acts more like the number of plugins is important rather than which plugins). H. I have four active extensions, one disabled

Re: First F13 roadblock

2010-05-29 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sat, 29 May 2010 19:17:56 -0400 Tom Horsley wrote: Yea, it is somewhat mysteriously random. I gonna try getting rid of the 32 but flash and nspluginwrapper and see if it likes things better with all 64 bit plugins. Maybe it isn't as random as I thought. It is beginning to look like

Re: Cool it Down Please was: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-29 Thread g
Frank Murphy wrote: snip On 29/05/10 17:46, g wrote: --snip-- and when they do and have a new design, is it posted to this list for viewing and review? many followers of this list do not follow website design list. Normally most important things are posted to: the announce list. (low

Re: Importing an mbox into Imap

2010-05-29 Thread Philip Prindeville
On 5/25/10 9:16 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Tue, 2010-05-25 at 10:10 +0930, Tim wrote: On Mon, 2010-05-24 at 14:38 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: Just import the mbox file into any IMAP client (Thunderbird, Evolution, Claws, whatever ...) I've tried this with

Re: preupgrade: not enough space again

2010-05-29 Thread Konstantin Svist
On 05/29/2010 02:57 PM, Alan Evans wrote: I thought gparted couldn't get anywhere near a LVM. Has that changed? Oh, actually I always ignore LVM setup and create my own partitions. I like being able to use gparted :] -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or

Re: Correct instructions for installing NVidia proprietary driver on Fedora 13?

2010-05-29 Thread Steven P. Ulrick
On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 06:25, Steven P. Ulrick lists-fed...@afolkey2.netwrote: Hi Steven, On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 16:59, Steven P. Ulrick lists-fed...@afolkey2.netwrote: Hello Everyone, If the output of /sbin/lspci | grep VGA is: 03:00.0 VGA compatible controller:

Re: Correct instructions for installing NVidia proprietary driver on Fedora 13?

2010-05-29 Thread Steven P. Ulrick
Hello Everyone, If the output of /sbin/lspci | grep VGA is: 03:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G94 [GeForce 9600 GT] (rev a1) are the correct instructions for installing the proprietary NVidia driver still located here:

Re: Importing an mbox into Imap

2010-05-29 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2010-05-29 at 18:34 -0600, Philip Prindeville wrote: I'm sure he wouldn't mind sharing the script if you're interested, but it is specific to Cyrus. poc Ok, just to be clear... does it resubmit the messages via IMAP for delivery? It runs directly on the Cyrus

Re: radeon to nvidia to radeon produces pain

2010-05-29 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Sat, 29 May 2010, Craig White wrote: On Sat, 2010-05-29 at 10:45 -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote: On Fri, 28 May 2010, Michael Hennebry wrote: I'm on my third video card. The first was a radeon. After I zapped that one, I had it replaced with an nvidia card because it had AGP and I could

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-29 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/29/2010 10:34 PM, g wrote: Rahul Sundaram wrote: snip Depends on when you did it. As I indicated before, there was some recent changes done in response to feedback here. which would have been unnecessary if web page designers had posted a link to this list notifying of a

Re: radeon to nvidia to radeon produces pain

2010-05-29 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Sat, 29 May 2010, Michael Hennebry wrote: On Sat, 29 May 2010, Craig White wrote: On Sat, 2010-05-29 at 10:45 -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote: On Fri, 28 May 2010, Michael Hennebry wrote: I'm on my third video card. The first was a radeon. After I zapped that one, I had it replaced with

Re: Preupgrade is slow

2010-05-29 Thread W.H. Kalpa Pathum
On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 10:55 PM, Patrick Bartek bartek...@yahoo.com wrote: --- On Sat, 5/29/10, W.H. Kalpa Pathum callka...@gmail.com wrote: I'm trying to upgrade F12 to F13 and I'm using preupgrade-cli. Al though my internet connection is capable to transfer around 50kB/s, the preupgrade

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-29 Thread g
Rahul Sundaram wrote: snip I am uninterested in blaming anyone this believe, nor should you be. and, no one at fault should be, nor maintain a hurt by what has been said. but, because of what has happened, proper steps should be taken to prevent such problems again. posting notification and

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-29 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/30/2010 10:38 AM, g wrote: posting notification and a link to new page design to all list can help in prevention because if someone does complain, it is a simple matter to point out that notice was given and comments were requested. As already pointed out, feedback was requested as

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-29 Thread g
Rahul Sundaram wrote: snip As already pointed out, feedback was requested as part of Fedora Weekly News which was send to fedora-announce list back in Oct. i missed, or do not recall mention of notice being in 'fwn', but i will accept you word as to such. tho 'fwn' is one place to send such