on when we'd get to this though, but most likely sooner than supporting pyd's :).
What's the best way for me to supply the on-record opinion that PYD support should have a very very low priority compared to other things? :)
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I'm going to guess that this is platform-specific, and that you happen to be
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There's not
currently any way to define a CLR interface from IronPython.
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not a lawyer, but this seems highly unlikely. Independent
rediscovery does not protect you from claims of patent infringement, only
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Unless I am misreading, it seems you are suggesting
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Major things we know we still have to do include yield expressions
(sorry, there's probably a technical term for them)
Closures :P.
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Closures :P.
Doh! I'm so retarded that I misspelled generators
and try to use it. Alternatively, check out
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1.4.4.
I would guess not, as that's almost certainly reliant on C extensions.
What you probably want are .NET bindings for SVN. There don't seem to be
any official ones, but you might try the project at
http://www.pumacode.org/projects/svndotnet/
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application's requirements,
you may be able to use the SslStream class that's built into the .NET
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'different'
I don't know *why* someone would want to write code like this unless they've
been programming for such a short time that they've never had to go back and
change something that they wrote over a year ago. I find this style
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in a colon must be the first one on the line. That is, the first of
these lines is legal Python and the second and third are not.
if 1: print 'goodbye'; print 'hello'
print 'hello'; if 1: print 'goodbye'
if 1: print 'goodbye'; else: print 'hello'
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, given that Python standard library
doesn't use COM.
There is COM support in the Pythonwin extensions. Some people might
consider this to be part of the standard library under Windows, even though
it's not an official part of Python.
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but I think it would be pretty useless for the .net runtime, as you need
to expose a C API anyway.
Of course, if Managed C++ isn't supported by Mono, that's probably a
sufficiently good reason not to take this approach.
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But I would expect that Mono-compatibility is especially critical for this
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IEnumerable-like object. I'm not sure
what PyTuple_New should return, but whatever it is will need to have
PyObject*-like semantics.
How does DllImport fit into this picture? How can I avoid implementing all
these functions in C or C++?
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is a PyObject *. That asterisk
there is an old-fashioned way of saying unsafe code. :)
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this implemented by
default is that in some situations (e.g. outside the console) we won't
actually know what the main thread is.
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thread.interrupt_main has somewhat different semantics than Thread.Abort; it
basically triggers a keyboard interrupt on the main thread -- this is, of
course, an exception that can be caught and handled by user code on that
thread.
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code. This is definitely
cleaner but has the disadvantage of a tighter binding between the two parts
and a potentially much more painful versioning story.
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decimal.py to use ToUpperInvariant()? Are you sharing the
file with CPython?
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(published) ScriptModule through the API? Or is engine.Execute('del
sys.modules['module_name']) my best bet in this regard?
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I guess now is as good as any time to announce that we're going to support
multiple instances of engines in a single app domain.
I'm spectacularly happy about this; thanks for letting us know! :)
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In a previous alpha of IPY 2.0, I deleted modules by saying
it on ScriptDomainManager.CurrentManager -- I don't see
one implemented on ScriptEngine in the latest drop.
There's a bug in ScriptDomainManager.GetPublishedModules that I've
started running into; guess I'll post it to Codeplex.
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code? If you've got a ScriptScope for the module, you can just say
PythonEngine.CurrentEngine.SetVariable(module, varName, varValue)
where module is the ScriptScope.
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module.
If you've done the equivalent of poking a = 1 into module foo, you
can access this value from __main__ by saying from foo import a.
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myfunc()
That way, the import gets re-run each time you run SomeFunc, and
you'll always get the latest version of the module.
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said was that the
myfunc symbol will be reimported from the mymod module at that
point in time, and will therefore pick up any changes to mymod that
have been made -- including changes made by a reload. I did not mean
to imply that mymod itself would be reloaded.
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have modified the value of myfunc without doing a
reload. And saying from mymod import myfunc will pickup the new
function that's been assigned to that symbol.
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in their namespaces. This is another way of saying that from X
import * is potentially evil and should be used very carefully. Try
saying import FormOne and then qualify the class as
FormOne.FormOne.
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local namespace at run time. The C# using statement is simply a
directive to the compiler to tell it which namespaces to search in for
symbols that are otherwise undefined in the local scope. It literally
does not emit any IL code that is executed at runtime.
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with the categorization, but couldn't think
of a better way to express what I meant. Your answer was exactly what
I wanted:
clr.GetClrType(Microsoft.Scripting.IDynamicObject).IsAssignableFrom(type(obj))
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import System
Output is:
IronPython.Runtime.Exceptions.ImportException : No module named System
What do I need to do to my embedding host to make sure it's preloading the
same assemblies as the interactive console?
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When I run IronPython interactively, I automatically get System.dllloaded:
PS f:\IronPython-2.0A8
Oh! I didn't realize that about 2.6.
There is indeed a big difference between a Python runtime decorator and a
.NET compile time attribute; in fact, the similarities are superficial at
best.
.NET attributes are totally static, so there's no way to modify a .NET class
definition to add them. The
the source a little before releasing it,
but was wondering if anyone had some feedback on the design as described so
far. What should be changed or implemented in order for this to be more
useful to you?
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? If not then are
you just compiling Python to static assemblies?
To my mind the former is more interesting than the latter... (Although
both are interesting of course...)
Michael
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proof
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The assemblies call into the IronPython engine (version 2) to load and
execute the script. Currently, the script is loaded from the file
system, but I'd eventually like to support embedding any
required
and properties. Hmm... where have I heard that recently... :)
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Slashdot
headline: Microsoft inflicts 'embrace and extend' on Python. Silly
or not, perceptions are hugely important.
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with the hosting-level interfaces of 1.1, but I seem to
recall that (at the level in question) they're largely isomorphic with
what's currently in 2.0.
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such
a tool in a greedy mode (which tries to wrap everything) and a
precision mode (which only wraps what you tell it to).
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WcfServer.py theoretically implements a WCF server, though I haven't gotten
as far as actually testing the output yet. (The generated code passes the
eyeball compiler.)
Code quality is unimpressive; your mileage may vary. And I've got to get
back to my day job for a few hours now :).
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is a kind of next generation NUnit for unit testing, and I recommend
it highly. You can find it at http://www.codeplex.com/xunit
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For the five people here who aren't on it, the following link was posted to
the IronRuby mailing list:
http://blogs.msdn.com/charlie/archive/2008/01/25/future-focus.aspx
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imposition to put on the consumers of the
code in question. I'm worried that I'm missing something about the expected
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that as the entry point.
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http://hagenlocher.org/software/ClrWrapper.zip
The source consists of the three files ClrBuilder.py, ClrWrapper.py and
MakeModule.py. There are also two demo files
with the Python type foo. However,
the __init__ method was never called.
What am I doing wrong?
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The following code creates a Python class foo with a single method
__init__. It then gets the class object.
string code = class foo(object):\n\tdef __init__(self):\n\t\tprint
'hello world'\n;
SourceUnit scriptSource
This is in Codeplex as work item 10518
http://www.codeplex.com/IronPython/WorkItem/View.aspx?WorkItemId=10518
The item was marked as a duplicate of 10825, which has been marked as
resolved in 1.1.1. However, I am able to reproduce the problem with 1.1,
1.1.1 and alpha 8.
On Feb 18, 2008 10:54
I should amend this to say that I can *inconsistently* reproduce it. The
URL in the original sample always fails with that error, but
http://www.microsoft.com has been succeeding for me more often than not.
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This is in Codeplex
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I should amend this to say that I can *inconsistently* reproduce it. The URL
in the original sample always fails with that error, but
http://www.microsoft.com
has been
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Here's a simpler way to reproduce the problem:
import httplib
h = httplib.HTTP('www.google.com')
h.putrequest('GET', '/')
h.endheaders()
a, b, c = h.getreply()
fp = h.getfile()
fp.read(1024*8)
Turning debugging
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Is it possible that CPython's socket.close method won't actually close
the socket while there's still a makefile'd file attacked to the
underlying OS socket? And that IronPython's will? Because that's the
only explanation I
= imp.new_module('socket')
execfile('..\\lib\\socket.py', module.__dict__)
import xmlrpclib
server = xmlrpclib.Server('http://localhost:4567')
month = server.getMonth(2002, 8)
I've tested this and it works.
(Code shamelessly stolen from Birsch's recent BeautifulSoup example.)
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The page in question doesn't seem to show what you describe -- deriving a
Python class from a C# class. Maybe you could show us your sample code?
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I am following
()
Thanks again,
Kyle
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The page in question
interface?
(All pointers to pre-existing doco warmly received :)
Thanks
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I built a test executable and was able to reproduce this. And when I
changed
clr.AddReferenceToFile(WebControlLibrary.dll)
to
clr.AddReference(WebControlLibrary)
it worked as expected.
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Ah, no. I was thinking that you
Here's a snippet that I'm using under A8. I can't promise that everything
is right, but it works correctly for how I'm using it.
// Load Class1.py into a new scope
SourceUnit source =
PythonEngine.CurrentEngine.CreateScriptSourceFromFile(Class1.py);
IScriptScope m =
Sorry... the type of theClass should actually be PythonType and not
object.
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Here's a snippet that I'm using under A8. I can't promise that everything
is right, but it works correctly for how I'm using it.
// Load
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I built a test executable and was able to reproduce this. And when I
changed
WebControlLibrary presumably because I needed to add the dll's path to a
path list somewhere.
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Do we need to have py file also in the same directory along with dll?
Yes, that is correct.
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details on how the project is going ?
I've just gotten back from vacation and will resume work on the
project once I recover from the twin devils of jet lag and the
backlog. I can't make any specific promises about progress right
now, but I'm definitely committed to making some :).
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provide feedback or sign up :).
The existing code works against 2.0A8; it will updated for 2.0B1 by
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This is a great analysis - based upon this I think it'll be pretty easy to
fix this. I'll take a look at it tomorrow and respond back.
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Nope; got it wrong again. I'll just supply a patch once I get this working.
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I noticed that this still isn't fixed in 2.0b1, so I took another look at
socket.cs and realized that my analysis was slightly off. There's
Is the file at http://compilerlab.members.winisp.net/dlr-spec-hosting.pdf still
the latest publically-available version of the spec? The PDF was created on
Jan 3, 08 but otherwise contains no versioning information.
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Ooh, I was unaware of __reduce__ and __reduce_ex__; thanks.
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Unfortunately I don't think what you want will work. If it's your .NET
class you could implement __reduce_ex__ and I think we'd pick it up and use
that for
that into the pickle stream along w/ the extra Python info.
That's probably include a type name which you'd just load and see what you
got – much like how cPickle does an import and uses what it gets when it's
loading a global.
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The script engine allows you to set the search path by calling
ScriptEngine.SetScriptSourceSearchPaths, but it neither lets you query the
existing path nor amend it -- just set it outright. Is this intentional?
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Some of those look like names from A9, which have changed in B1.
The easiest way to evaluate an expression from scratch seems to be as
follows:
ScriptEngine engine = ScriptRuntime.Create().GetEngine(py);
ScriptScope scope = engine.CreateScope();
ScriptSource source =
)scope.GetExtension(scope.Language.ContextId);
extension.TrueDivision = true;
It looks like you can set this globally by doing something like this:
((IronPython.PythonEngineOptions)engine.Options).DivisionOptions =
IronPython.PythonDivisionOptions.New;
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The snippets represent executable code that's generated dynamically by the
DLR from your Python source. Do you have a small piece of sample code that
reproduces the failure?
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IPY2.0 B1 Vista SP1
I keep seeing
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The snippets represent executable code that's generated dynamically by
the
DLR from your Python source. Do you have a small piece of sample code
that
reproduces the failure?
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);
// runtime.LoadAssembly(typeof(System.Diagnostics.Debug).Assembly);
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ScriptScope scope = runtime.ExecuteFile(foo.py);
object theClass;
scope.TryGetVariable(Foo, out theClass);
object theValue = PythonCalls.Call(theClass);
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' is not defined
I imagine this is just a temporary glitch in 2.0b1, as IronPython
1.1.1 shows the right line:
PS F:\IPCE-r7\ipy .\ipy.exe test2.py
Traceback (most recent call last):
File F:\IPCE-r7\ipy\test2.py, line 1, in Initialize
NameError: name 'self' not defined
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ScriptEngine.SetScriptSourceSearchPaths, but this doesn't seem to
exist in 2b1.
I'm looking at it in 2b1 right now...
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(ScriptRuntime).GlobalOptions.DebugMode =
true in a hosting scenario.
(Thanks to Jimmy Schementi's post on the IronRuby list for pointing me at this.)
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that the semantics of a class vary so much between Python, Ruby and
Javascript, this isn't really a surprise.
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bug in IP 2B1
Curt Hagenlocher wrote:
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 8:10 AM, Michael Foord
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In general, error reporting/tracebacks seem to be much worse in
IronPython 2. If I have time I will try and produce a repro...
If you run with a -D flag, you get much better
(I think) I can repro this with the following code:
static void Main() {
AppDomainSetup info = new AppDomainSetup();
info.ApplicationBase = System.Environment.CurrentDirectory;
info.ApplicationName = Test;
Evidence evidence = new Evidence();
evidence.AddHost(new
For what it's worth, I got that result on 2.0.50727.1434.
On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 3:52 PM, Sho List [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks Curt, that code does reproduce the exception I am getting. I am
running on 2.0.50727.312
Thanks!
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This indicates that your executable directory does not contain
IronPython.Modules.dll.
On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 7:35 PM, Paul Turbett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi
Was there ever a solution to this problem? I'm getting the same thing,
though not with NUnit. To port my IP interface from 1.1 to
In CPython 2.5.2, the prototype of _fileobject.__init__ is this:
def __init__(self, sock, mode='rb', bufsize=-1, close=False):
The close flag controls whether or not the socket should be closed when the
file is closed. As such, this may be directly related to CodePlex issue
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