Hi,
On his blog, Lex Spoon makes some interesting points against most
build systems, using Maven as an example:
http://blog.lexspoon.org/2012/12/recursive-maven-considered-harmful.html
In related news, I've heard people complain about “insanely long build
times via building unnecessary things”
Mark Struberg has started work to improve the incremental behavior of e.g.
the compiler plugin. Version 3.0 of maven-compiler-plugin includes an early
version of that new library. There was a thread about this, started by
Mark, on the dev list some ago if you want to read about it.
Mark has also
Current work on Maven compiler plugin version 3.0 is adding support for an
incremental mode.
It is a tricky balance to cut, as if incremental mode is too aggressive,
you compile more than is strictly necessary... and if too lax, you compile
less than is required and people end up having to run
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Current work on Maven compiler plugin version 3.0 is adding support for an
incremental mode.
It is a tricky
with respect to 'the install hack': If I had a dollar for every
occasion where a bug in a plugin or the core required me to use it,
I'd be a richer man by a considerable amount.
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And I try to remove such bugs as and when I find them... but yes I agree
it's a pain... but people should be more aware that it is a hack and they
would be better served by fixing the root cause... not applying the
install hack
On 17 December 2012 12:26, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com
The problem is also with Java itself.
Let's take a project with a war depending of a jar produced by another
module or an ear relying on several war and you cannot use anymore
something below install (it should be package to at least find the archive
in the target dir and not to have to find it in
Reformatted and edited into something a bit more specific:
http://developer-blog.cloudbees.com/2012/12/maven-and-hack.html
On 17 December 2012 12:45, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com
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And I try to remove such bugs as and when I find them... but yes I agree
it's a
On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 12:36 PM, Stephen Connolly
stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote:
Current work on Maven compiler plugin version 3.0 is adding support for an
incremental mode.
It is a tricky balance to cut, as if incremental mode is too aggressive,
you compile more than is strictly
On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Mark Struberg strub...@yahoo.de wrote:
I really like to pick up the work again, but currently busy with graduating
another project.
The next important points to do are
* inter-project change detection. If you have a dependency to another project
which
On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 2:08 PM, Arnaud Héritier aherit...@gmail.com wrote:
But yes all plugins should have an update/incremental behavior but it's not
easy to do because there are many factors that may require to rebuild some
parts of your project (You may edit your settings.xml, a pom.xml
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On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Mark Struberg strub...@yahoo.de wrote:
I really like to pick up the work again, but currently busy with graduating
On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 3:36 AM, Stephen Connolly
stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote:
Another issue is that people abuse the install hack far more often than
they should...
Hi; this is the first I've read anywhere about the install hack. Where
can I find out more about it?
In fact it
://maven.apache.org/guides/introduction/introduction-to-the-lifecycle.html
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On 17 December 2012 15:34, Laird Nelson ljnel...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 3:36 AM, Stephen Connolly
stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote:
Another issue is that people abuse the install hack far more often than
they should...
Hi; this is the first I've read anywhere
On Dec 17, 2012, at 11:02 AM, Stephen Connolly
stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote:
On 17 December 2012 15:34, Laird Nelson ljnel...@gmail.com wrote:
I am not saying that you only ever run it with clean verify
I am not saying running with clean install is considered harmful.
I am
Last month I head the idea to only show the -rf option if you ran Maven
with at least the install goal. The next step was to fix this, either with
serialization of the MavenProjects or xml-file which could be picked when
continuing the build with the -rf argument. Hence, why not work on that
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