Re: [users] Petition against OOo Renaissance

2009-09-22 Thread Tommy27
petition is now at 450 signatures :jumping: 500 is round the corner... by the calfaifcheof this week that goal should be reached!!! =) -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Petition-against-OOo-Renaissance-tp25228803p25530642.html Sent from the openoffice - users mailing

Re: [users] Petition against OOo Renaissance

2009-09-20 Thread Tommy27
if the petition is do useless and if you consider that the umber of signature is irrelevant, why do you keep wasting your time attcking me and criticize the petition? :confused: i think that the reality is that you are afraid of the success of the petition... 8-O actually the count is 428 and

Re: [users] Petition against OOo Renaissance

2009-09-19 Thread Tommy27
gene, all you say is just plonk... plonk... plonk... :confused: you always use the same word... %-| at least my numbers change... :-D actually 421 signatures... :jumping: 500 will come soon!!! :super: -- View this message in context:

Re: [users] Petition against OOo Renaissance

2009-09-19 Thread Tommy27
wonderful explanation, Larry... however it doesn't seem that Gene is ignoring me since he still keeps commenting this thread despite havinh plonked me so many times... :thinking: but let's forget about Gene for a moment and let's analyze your contribution to the thread... i see that you Larry

Re: [users] Petition against OOo Renaissance

2009-09-18 Thread Tommy27
this time i'll say just a number: 409. =) -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Petition-against-OOo-Renaissance-tp25228803p25513999.html Sent from the openoffice - users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -

Re: Re: [users] Petition against OOo Renaissance

2009-09-18 Thread Tommy27
@The Beaver thanks for the compliment about my IQ... as you know people with IQ over 140 are considered genious or near genious ( http://onemansblog.com/2007/11/08/the-massive-list-of-genius-people-with-the-highest-iq/ ) actually the number is even higher: 414 @John Boyle it seems those users

Re: Re: [users] Petition against OOo Renaissance

2009-09-17 Thread Tommy27
smiley image='anim_claps.gif' text=':clap:' / @JB if you find the petition so useless why do you take so much effort to fight it? we got not 401 signatures :handshake::jumping: =) -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Petition-against-OOo-Renaissance-tp25228803p25502949.html

Re: [users] Petition against OOo Renaissance

2009-09-16 Thread Tommy27
Presta, you insult people and are unpolite. shame on you. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Petition-against-OOo-Renaissance-tp25228803p25467597.html Sent from the openoffice - users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

[users] Re: [openoffice] Re: [users] Re: Petition against OOo Renaissance

2009-09-16 Thread Tommy27
@Presta Larry your complete loss of education brings you to offend people who don't have your same opinions... i'll not come down yo your (very low) level... i'm not going to insult you... you are jusy showing people the person you are with that incivil behaviour... @Keith if you don't like

Re: [users] Petition against OOo Renaissance

2009-09-16 Thread Tommy27
@Gene Young people here's accusing me of being the owner of scam site who illegally sell OOo... how these people can move such infamous accuses without any proofs? i'm not a liar... these people are the real liars accusing me of somthing is not true. @Manfred J. Krause i'm not bulldozing

Re: Re: [users] Petition against OOo Renaissance

2009-09-16 Thread Tommy27
i did not offend anybody. other people offended me... those people are those who should learn how to stay in a mailing list. the petition is growing minute after minute 373 right now in less than 4 weeks. the number is veryhigh... blog posts on GullFoss never received so much attention.

Re: [users] Petition against OOo Renaissance

2009-09-16 Thread Tommy27
gene, i should thank you, really!!! the more you flame this thread, the more it stays on top of the list, the more users hear about the petition and the more users sign it. have a nice evening. -- View this message in context:

Re: [users] Petition against OOo Renaissance

2009-09-16 Thread Tommy27
now it is ME offending you? :confused: incredible... %-| -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Petition-against-OOo-Renaissance-tp25228803p25481900.html Sent from the openoffice - users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: [users] Petition against OOo Renaissance

2009-09-15 Thread Tommy27
again the same false accuses... i'm not the first author of the petition so i cannot edit it... i told ya many times but still don't wanna understand it... petition goes on despite your accuses... we got now 337 signatures and it keep growing!!! -- View this message in context:

Re: [users] Petition against OOo Renaissance

2009-09-15 Thread Tommy27
the GUI prototype of Renaissance sucks even more than Ribbon. the standard GUI is more usable. this is my opinion and 342 users who signed the petition agree with me. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Petition-against-OOo-Renaissance-tp25228803p25457262.html Sent from the

Re: [users] Petition against OOo Renaissance

2009-09-15 Thread Tommy27
no one of the 347 signers (you see, any time i post here the number is always higher...) has complained about scam sites because no one of them is so dumb to be fooled by those advertosing. the only one who are concerned by those scam site are people like you that don't wanna sign the

Re: [users] Petition against OOo Renaissance

2009-09-15 Thread Tommy27
people signing the petition know what a GUI is, know what a Ribbon and a Renaissance mean, and most important know that OOo is freeware, so there will be nobody so dumb to be fooled by those scam links... when i signed the petition (i think i was numebr 67... actually 348) i did not even notice

Re: [users] Petition against OOo Renaissance

2009-09-15 Thread Tommy27
Larry, i make no bucks becuase i have no financial interest with those sites... did you stopped a while thinking that by keeping asking over and over again the same things despite you already got the answer, you are keeping this topic at the top of the list... in this way you are promoting the

Re: [users] Petition against OOo Renaissance

2009-09-15 Thread Tommy27
well said John, the Ribbon is gonna kill OOo usability!!! P.S. thanks for signing the petition: updated count is 352 -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Petition-against-OOo-Renaissance-tp25228803p25466002.html Sent from the openoffice - users mailing list archive at

[users] Re: Re: [openoffice] Re: [users] Petition against OOo Renaissance

2009-09-14 Thread Tommy27
any idea, Gianluca, about when a new prototype will be released? i'm curious to see if developers will take into some account all the negative comments (petition included) received for the previous ones... -- View this message in context:

[users] Re: Re: Re: [openoffice] Re: [users] Petition against OOo Renaissance

2009-09-14 Thread Tommy27
well, IMHO the 0.16 prototype still sucks and stinks a lot of Ribbon... i hope they will change direction... all the negative comments and the petition as well (updated count is 317) are loudly asking for this!!! -- View this message in context:

Re: [users] Petition against OOo Renaissance

2009-09-14 Thread Tommy27
the reasons for the birth of the petition have been communicated to Renaissance developers on their blog: http://blogs.sun.com/GullFOSS/entry/prototyping_a_new_user_interface the majority of comments was negative. we don't want a Ribbonized OpenOffice, that's it. -- View this message in

[users] Re: Re: [openoffice] Re: [users] Petition against OOo Renaissance

2009-09-13 Thread Tommy27
John Boyle wrote: To Tommy27: Where does one sign up for this petition? :-[ the petition link is: http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/stoprenaissance/ please sign it and ignore advertising links which are only rubbish. i'd like to see your signatures. we already have 305. we need

[users] Re: Re: [openoffice] Re: [users] Petition against OOo Renaissance

2009-09-13 Thread Tommy27
the best solution IMHO would be to have a double GUI (standard Renaissance/Ribbon) users could choose. I would certainly keep using the standard GUI since i consider Renaissance just a waste of space and a loss of productivity fancy chunky GUI. that's why i support the petition. sign it here:

[users] Re: [openoffice] Re: [users] Petition against OOo Renaissance

2009-09-11 Thread Tommy27
Keith Bates-2 wrote: Excuse the top posting, but I really think that this discussion (for want of a batter word) should have been stopped a couple of days ago. you can't stop what is unstoppable. the petition count is now 296, despite insults and discredit attempts from some

Re: [users] Petition against OOo Renaissance

2009-09-10 Thread Tommy27
Larry Gusaas-4 wrote: So you are both promoting the advertised Open Office scam on the petition website. Do the two of you own this fake Official OO.o website and try to collect money from people so they can download OO.o? no. we have no financial interest in this. we are not

Re: [users] Petition against OOo Renaissance

2009-09-10 Thread Tommy27
I'm not the starter of the petition so i cannot edit it and add that warning. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Petition-against-OOo-Renaissance-tp25228803p25385350.html Sent from the openoffice - users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: [users] Petition against OOo Renaissance

2009-09-10 Thread Tommy27
your quacks will not stop the petition, Larry. :-p our team will win!!! =) -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Petition-against-OOo-Renaissance-tp25228803p25391129.html Sent from the openoffice - users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: [users] Petition against OOo Renaissance

2009-09-09 Thread Tommy27
Tommy, aka Dingo-Dog from Italy is the same person who lauched the petition. He tries to raise attention for the advertised Open Office scam. wrong supposition. we are 2 different users. dingo-dog started the petition, while i'm just promoting in forums and blogs -- View this message

Re: [users] New GUI for OOo ?

2009-09-03 Thread Tommy27
for those who still don't know, i'm promoting a petition against the OOo Renaissance GUI. you may sign the petition here (212 users already did it): http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/stoprenaissance/ you may also discuss the petition here:

Re: [users] Petition against OOo Renaissance

2009-09-02 Thread Tommy27
i completely agree with you. please Harold Fuchs-2, add your voice to the petition: we are already 198!!! -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Petition-against-OOo-Renaissance-tp25228803p25252248.html Sent from the openoffice - users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: Re: [users] Petition against OOo Renaissance

2009-09-02 Thread Tommy27
@Mathias My dislike for Ribbon is not just because is a MS product... If i was just a MS hater i would use a Mac... while i prefer Windows to MacOS. Regarding the Ribbon i had chance to try it on Office 2007 and i can tell that it really sucks... it's context sensitivity is a pain in the ass...

Re: Re: [users] Petition against OOo Renaissance

2009-09-02 Thread Tommy27
well said. the double GUI (standard and Renaissance/Ribbon) would be the best solution and would put the word end to this controversy. however this has been asked many times in many forums and newsgroups but many developers seemed not to like very much that idea. i don't know if the can't or

Re: [users] Petition against OOo Renaissance

2009-09-01 Thread Tommy27
@Lars Nooden your signature on the petition would be very appreciated. we have already collected 192 signatures. we need more!!! -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Petition-against-OOo-Renaissance-tp25228803p25244278.html Sent from the openoffice - users mailing list

Re: [users] Petition against OOo Renaissance

2009-09-01 Thread Tommy27
IMHO, Mathias Bauer's was a classic example of politician talk... a lot of words just to confuse users... he pretend we believe that Renaissance is not copyinf Ribbon... that's simply ridicolous: any man with eyes on this planet sees that the new GUI is clearly inspired to MS Ribbon. OOo is

[users] Petition against OOo Renaissance

2009-08-31 Thread Tommy27
PETITION: http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/stoprenaissance/ Some OpenOffice developers announced, few time ago, a great (in their minds) project: Trying to copy ugly, unusable Ribbon interface, made by Micro$oft for Word and other Office products

Re: [users] Petition against OOo Renaissance

2009-08-31 Thread Tommy27
David B Teague wrote: If the author of the petition made it easier to sign the petition, I'd be happy to sign, but I was steered to at least 3 different web sites then the web site AFTER I had supposedly voted wants me to register. I hate the idea of a ribbon interface too, but

Re: [users] Petition against OOo Renaissance

2009-08-31 Thread Tommy27
@ Larry Gusaas-4 I'm sorry but i don't know who is responsible for those links I'm not the original author of the petition but I'm just supporting it by spreading the news... however i remember that when i signed it i did not notice any malicious content... i just gave my details and signed

Re: [users] Petition against OOo Renaissance

2009-08-31 Thread Tommy27
i defend the reasons behind that petition. criticism and feedback has been provided here: http://blogs.sun.com/GullFOSS/entry/prototyping_a_new_user_interface the petition is our instrument to tell OOo developers to change their project becuase it is going to a completely wrong direction --