Re: [Users] New setup - deploy OpenVZ or wait for VZ7?

2016-07-30 Thread Volker Janzen
Hi, > Am 08.06.2016 um 09:08 schrieb Ashley Moravek > : > > Actually that might be the #1 issue with current Debian Stable - it uses > older libvirt 1.2.9 and VZ team would have to recompile their own and roll it > to all users... otherwise no parallels+VMs

Re: [Users] New setup - deploy OpenVZ or wait for VZ7?

2016-07-08 Thread Volker Janzen
Hi Scott, my affected server has a Intel Xeon E3 1245v2 CPU. That's some generations before skylake. Regards, Volker > Am 08.07.2016 um 17:23 schrieb Scott Dowdle : > > Greetings, > > Regarding the won't-boot-after-kernel-upgrade issue... I wonder if it is >

Re: [Users] New setup - deploy OpenVZ or wait for VZ7?

2016-07-08 Thread Scott Dowdle
Greetings, Regarding the won't-boot-after-kernel-upgrade issue... I wonder if it is related to Skylake processors and a recent microcode_ctl update that Fedora recently reported affects all of their current releases as well as other distros? For more info see: PSA: Failure to boot after

Re: [Users] New setup - deploy OpenVZ or wait for VZ7?

2016-07-08 Thread Denis Silakov
On 07/08/2016 12:22 AM, Volker Janzen wrote: Hi Denis, as far as I can see, vzdeploy already installed the VZ7 repository. I just do not know which packages are now required. E.g. I had to install prlctl manual. That command is complaining Parallels Server is missing. Seem to be a dependency

Re: [Users] New setup - deploy OpenVZ or wait for VZ7?

2016-07-07 Thread Volker Janzen
Hi Denis, one server did not boot at all. Technican told there was a call trace from kernel, but they will not give more details. Need to get one VZ7 running, perhaps I can find the error on this server. One server did boot. Will reply for this in other email. Regards Volker > Am

Re: [Users] New setup - deploy OpenVZ or wait for VZ7?

2016-07-07 Thread Denis Silakov
... Note that vzdeploy by itself in its current state only adds vzlinux repo to your system. You can then run "yum update" to really install VzLinux packages instead of CentOS ones. Then you should add Virtuozzo repositories and install Vz7 packages. On 07/07/2016 03:47 PM, Volker Janzen

Re: [Users] New setup - deploy OpenVZ or wait for VZ7?

2016-07-07 Thread Volker Janzen
Hi Denis, I managed to use the script on one server, but i had the problem after reboot, that I have no clue how to continue. There seem to be essential packages missing to run VZ7. Regards Volker > Am 07.06.2016 um 09:42 schrieb Denis Silakov : > > > On

Re: [Users] New setup - deploy OpenVZ or wait for VZ7?

2016-07-04 Thread Volker Janzen
Hi Denis, > Requirements are the same as for CentOS/RHEL. Installer functionality is also > the same as in CentOS. > > And actually one can run a script named vzdeploy > (http://repo.virtuozzo.com/vzlinux/vzdeploy/vzdeploy) to turn his CentOS or > Scientific Linux installation into VzLinux

Re: [Users] New setup - deploy OpenVZ or wait for VZ7?

2016-06-08 Thread jjs - mainphrame
I had an even simpler question: Let's say we have 2 OVZ 7 beta servers; will it be possible to live migrate all CTs away from one beta node to another, install OVZ 7 release on the first node, then live-migrate the CTs back to that node? Jake On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 11:23 AM, Sergey Bronnikov

Re: [Users] New setup - deploy OpenVZ or wait for VZ7?

2016-06-08 Thread Sergey Bronnikov
Anna, please answer on question regarding upgrade from pre-release Vz7 versions. On 09:43 Mon 06 Jun , jjs - mainphrame wrote: > Hi Sergey, > > I suppose one could still migrate CTs from an OVZ7 pre-release to a > newly installed OVZ7, is that a reasonable assumption? Is live > migration likely

Re: [Users] New setup - deploy OpenVZ or wait for VZ7?

2016-06-08 Thread Ashley Moravek
Yes, I've submitted quite a few PRs related to porting to Debian, they all got accepted (mostly related to bash not being the default /bin/sh in Debian), just as some Makefile changes due to different Debian paths (like systemd). We've got running VZ7 on stock Debian Jessie (systemd, etc) but

Re: [Users] New setup - deploy OpenVZ or wait for VZ7?

2016-06-07 Thread Pavel Gashev
Those could be the same way. One can maintain its own distro for bare metal, but support other distros. It's an Open Source. I believe OpenVZ will accept patches related to other distros. Why not? On 07/06/16 11:07, "users-boun...@openvz.org on behalf of Narcis Garcia"

Re: [Users] New setup - deploy OpenVZ or wait for VZ7?

2016-06-07 Thread Volker Janzen
Hi Denis, > And actually one can run a script named vzdeploy > (http://repo.virtuozzo.com/vzlinux/vzdeploy/vzdeploy) to turn his CentOS or > Scientific Linux installation into VzLinux one. This script is not thoroughly > tested yet, so use with care. this is a good way to start for me,

Re: [Users] New setup - deploy OpenVZ or wait for VZ7?

2016-06-07 Thread Denis Silakov
On 06/07/2016 11:35 AM, Volker Janzen wrote: Hi Denis, And actually one can run a script named vzdeploy (http://repo.virtuozzo.com/vzlinux/vzdeploy/vzdeploy) to turn his CentOS or Scientific Linux installation into VzLinux one. This script is not thoroughly tested yet, so use with care.

Re: [Users] New setup - deploy OpenVZ or wait for VZ7?

2016-06-07 Thread Narcis Garcia
I see two ways: A) Support main GNU/Linux distros (much time of development) B) Maintain own GNU/Linux ~ VzLinux (much time of development) = supporting a maintained zoo or maintaining own animal at home Ubuntu can have an analogous relation with Debian as VzLinux with RHEL. They have much time

Re: [Users] New setup - deploy OpenVZ or wait for VZ7?

2016-06-07 Thread Sergey Bronnikov
On 20:41 Mon 06 Jun , Volker Janzen wrote: > So this sentence from the quick Installation guide is just false: > "Alternatively, one can install OpenVZ on a pre-installed RPM based Linux > distribution. Supported Linux distributions: Cloud Linux 7.*, CentOS 7.*, > Scientific Linux 7.* etc" >

Re: [Users] New setup - deploy OpenVZ or wait for VZ7?

2016-06-07 Thread Volker Janzen
Hi, there are arguments for using a single / own distribution or supporting many different onces. It's up to the project what they want to support. When they use there own distro, it's up to them how to handle major changes e.g. switching init system, introducing new major releases of required

Re: [Users] New setup - deploy OpenVZ or wait for VZ7?

2016-06-07 Thread Denis Silakov
On 06/06/2016 09:59 PM, Volker Janzen wrote: As you know Virtuozzo 7 based on VzLinux distribution. I forgot another question: is there a hardware requirement / compatibility list for VzLinux? As of it's not the same as CentOS, the requirements may be different. Is there software raid

Re: [Users] New setup - deploy OpenVZ or wait for VZ7?

2016-06-07 Thread Jehan Procaccia
Le 06/06/2016 20:41, Volker Janzen a écrit : Hi Sergey, I forgot to mention one important thing in my previous answer. As you know Virtuozzo 7 based on VzLinux distribution. VzLinux is a Linux distribution similar to CentOS but it is not the same. VzLinux is not just rebuilded RPM packages

Re: [Users] New setup - deploy OpenVZ or wait for VZ7?

2016-06-06 Thread Raghavendra Bhat
spameden posts >> Please understand me correctly, we don't want to support a variety of all >> Linux zoo. >> It requires much more time of development, testing and support. > > That's a shame. Another nail in the coffin of OpenVZ.. :( > Sergey as spameden aptly posts, unsupported GNU/Linux

Re: [Users] New setup - deploy OpenVZ or wait for VZ7?

2016-06-06 Thread Konstantin Khorenko
On 06/06/2016 07:13 PM, Сергей Мамонов wrote: > Yes, i know it's still possible to create an image which will be compacted not that efficiently, but this becomes quite a rare case. But in irl - get random prodaction node and first container with max delta (data vs image size) -

Re: [Users] New setup - deploy OpenVZ or wait for VZ7?

2016-06-06 Thread spameden
> Please understand me correctly, we don't want to support a variety of all Linux zoo. > It requires much more time of development, testing and support. That's a shame. Another nail in the coffin of OpenVZ.. :( 2016-06-06 19:43 GMT+03:00 jjs - mainphrame : > Hi Sergey, > >

Re: [Users] New setup - deploy OpenVZ or wait for VZ7?

2016-06-06 Thread Konstantin Khorenko
On 06/06/2016 06:13 PM, Konstantin Khorenko wrote: On 06/06/2016 02:23 PM, Volker Janzen wrote: Hi Sergey, On 14:39 Sun 05 Jun , Volker Janzen wrote: Unfortunately no. We don't support upgrade from pre-release version to the final one. When I use a CentOS 7 as base system and install VZ7

Re: [Users] New setup - deploy OpenVZ or wait for VZ7?

2016-06-06 Thread Sergey Bronnikov
On 13:23 Mon 06 Jun , Volker Janzen wrote: > Hi Sergey, > > > On 14:39 Sun 05 Jun , Volker Janzen wrote: > >>> > >>> Unfortunately no. We don't support upgrade from pre-release version to > >>> the final one. > >> > >> When I use a CentOS 7 as base system and install VZ7 afterward it's not >

Re: [Users] New setup - deploy OpenVZ or wait for VZ7?

2016-06-06 Thread Volker Janzen
Hi Sergey, > As you know Virtuozzo 7 based on VzLinux distribution. I forgot another question: is there a hardware requirement / compatibility list for VzLinux? As of it's not the same as CentOS, the requirements may be different. Is there software raid support in bare metall installer? Or is

Re: [Users] New setup - deploy OpenVZ or wait for VZ7?

2016-06-06 Thread jjs - mainphrame
Hi Sergey, I suppose one could still migrate CTs from an OVZ7 pre-release to a newly installed OVZ7, is that a reasonable assumption? Is live migration likely to work in this scenario? Jake On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 3:55 AM, Sergey Bronnikov wrote: > Hello, Volker > > On 22:06

Re: [Users] New setup - deploy OpenVZ or wait for VZ7?

2016-06-06 Thread Volker Janzen
Hi Sergey, >> On 13:23 Mon 06 Jun , Volker Janzen wrote: >> Hi Sergey, >> >>> On 14:39 Sun 05 Jun , Volker Janzen wrote: > > Unfortunately no. We don't support upgrade from pre-release version to > the final one. When I use a CentOS 7 as base system and install VZ7

Re: [Users] New setup - deploy OpenVZ or wait for VZ7?

2016-06-06 Thread Сергей Мамонов
> Yes, i know it's still possible to create an image which will be compacted not that efficiently, but this becomes quite a rare case. But in irl - get random prodaction node and first container with max delta (data vs image size) - ploop-balloon discard

Re: [Users] New setup - deploy OpenVZ or wait for VZ7?

2016-06-06 Thread Narcis Garcia
Sergey, do you mean that supported distribution for OpenVZ/Virtuozzo will be (or is) VzLinux OS? Could you document this GNU/Linux distribution with a Wikipedia article? Thanks. El 06/06/16 a les 15:33, Sergey Bronnikov ha escrit: > On 13:23 Mon 06 Jun , Volker Janzen wrote: >> Hi Sergey, >>

Re: [Users] New setup - deploy OpenVZ or wait for VZ7?

2016-06-06 Thread Volker Janzen
Hi Sergey, > On 14:39 Sun 05 Jun , Volker Janzen wrote: >>> >>> Unfortunately no. We don't support upgrade from pre-release version to the >>> final one. >> >> When I use a CentOS 7 as base system and install VZ7 afterward it's not >> possible to upgrade, too? > > There is only one supported

Re: [Users] New setup - deploy OpenVZ or wait for VZ7?

2016-06-06 Thread Konstantin Bukharov
Subject: Re: [Users] New setup - deploy OpenVZ or wait for VZ7? Why the CT_storage_backends page is not showing any "No" in the ploop column, and all "No"s in simfs columns are red (eg.compaction) The "qcow format" row is redundant, as it could be "can use same

Re: [Users] New setup - deploy OpenVZ or wait for VZ7?

2016-06-06 Thread Narcis Garcia
Why the CT_storage_backends page is not showing any "No" in the ploop column, and all "No"s in simfs columns are red (eg.compaction) The "qcow format" row is redundant, as it could be "can use same host filesystem". The "No problems" row seems to be written to put a "Yes" in the "good" column.

Re: [Users] New setup - deploy OpenVZ or wait for VZ7?

2016-06-06 Thread Denis V. Lunev
On 06/06/2016 01:51 PM, Sergey Bronnikov wrote: Hi, Volker On 14:39 Sun 05 Jun , Volker Janzen wrote: Unfortunately no. We don't support upgrade from pre-release version to the final one. When I use a CentOS 7 as base system and install VZ7 afterward it's not possible to upgrade, too?

Re: [Users] New setup - deploy OpenVZ or wait for VZ7?

2016-06-06 Thread Sergey Bronnikov
Hi, Volker On 14:39 Sun 05 Jun , Volker Janzen wrote: > > > > Unfortunately no. We don't support upgrade from pre-release version to the > > final one. > > When I use a CentOS 7 as base system and install VZ7 afterward it's not > possible to upgrade, too? There is only one supported

Re: [Users] New setup - deploy OpenVZ or wait for VZ7?

2016-06-05 Thread Sergey Bronnikov
Hello, Volker On 22:06 Fri 03 Jun , Volker Janzen wrote: > Hi, > > > We are going to release Virtuozzo 7 and OpenVZ 7 not later than this July. > > Thank you for your interest and stay tuned! > > when I setup VZ 7 beta now, is it possible to upgrade this to the stable > release when it's

Re: [Users] New setup - deploy OpenVZ or wait for VZ7?

2016-06-03 Thread Corrado Fiore
Wow. Thanks to everyone for sharing their suggestions and thanks to Sergey and Vladimir for chiming in and bringing insiders' knowledge to this thread ;-) In our particular use case, we've decided to go like this: • deploy the beta versions for the new setup • make sure that they work in

Re: [Users] New setup - deploy OpenVZ or wait for VZ7?

2016-06-03 Thread Scott Dowdle
Greetings, The sub-subject of this should be: OpenVZ/Virtozzo 7 packages distro packages? - Original Message - > Is it possible to build kernel packages/userspace utilities for > debian jessie as well ? > > Right now there is only kernel/userspaces utilities for debian wheezy > and

Re: [Users] New setup - deploy OpenVZ or wait for VZ7?

2016-06-03 Thread Volker Janzen
Hi, > We are going to release Virtuozzo 7 and OpenVZ 7 not later than this July. > Thank you for your interest and stay tuned! when I setup VZ 7 beta now, is it possible to upgrade this to the stable release when it's released? It also seems to lack some documentation for my use cases, but I

Re: [Users] New setup - deploy OpenVZ or wait for VZ7?

2016-06-03 Thread spameden
2016-06-03 19:17 GMT+03:00 vladimir.porok...@gmail.com < vladimir.porok...@gmail.com>: > Hi Guys! > > We are going to release Virtuozzo 7 and OpenVZ 7 not later than this July. > Thank you for your interest and stay tuned! > -- > Best regards, > Vladimir Porokhov > Is it possible to build kernel

Re: [Users] New setup - deploy OpenVZ or wait for VZ7?

2016-06-03 Thread jjs - mainphrame
Greetings - Based on our experience with OVZ 7 over the past several months, it's already good enough for our needs, where OVZ 7 CTs have been handling smtp, pop3/imap, spam/virus scanning for several domains, database, dns and build host duties with very few issues, and those issues that have

Re: [Users] New setup - deploy OpenVZ or wait for VZ7?

2016-06-03 Thread vladimir.porok...@gmail.com
Hi Guys! We are going to release Virtuozzo 7 and OpenVZ 7 not later than this July. Thank you for your interest and stay tuned! -- Best regards, Vladimir Porokhov On 03.06.16, 18:04, "Scott Dowdle" wrote: >Greetings, > >-

Re: [Users] New setup - deploy OpenVZ or wait for VZ7?

2016-06-03 Thread Scott Dowdle
Greetings, - Original Message - > we need to prepare a new setup composed of a few nodes (probably 5) > for August this year. > > If I interpreted the wii page correctly, the next VZ7 release will be > a stable one. As you can imagine, we're very tempted to wait for it > instead of

Re: [Users] New setup - deploy OpenVZ or wait for VZ7?

2016-06-03 Thread spameden
2016-06-03 17:14 GMT+03:00 Narcis Garcia : > We still deploy OpenVZ/6 because we use Debian repositories. > Our needings are covered with "oldstable" at all. > I have no information about OpenVZ/7 binary repositories for Debian. > > > El 03/06/16 a les 09:40, Corrado Fiore

Re: [Users] New setup - deploy OpenVZ or wait for VZ7?

2016-06-03 Thread Sergey Bronnikov
Hi, Corrado! On 15:40 Fri 03 Jun , Corrado Fiore wrote: > Dear All, > > we need to prepare a new setup composed of a few nodes (probably 5) for August > this year. Good news :) > If I interpreted the wii page correctly, the next VZ7 release will be a stable > one. As you can imagine, we're

[Users] New setup - deploy OpenVZ or wait for VZ7?

2016-06-03 Thread Corrado Fiore
Dear All, we need to prepare a new setup composed of a few nodes (probably 5) for August this year. If I interpreted the wii page correctly, the next VZ7 release will be a stable one. As you can imagine, we're very tempted to wait for it instead of deploying on OpenVZ and then migrating