Re: custom rule with pattern test of 0 (zero) not processed

2008-08-26 Thread mouss
dms dms wrote: Hello all, I searched high and low but could not find anywhere that says the following rule patten is invalid or not allowed in SpamAssassin 3.2.5 on CentOS 5.1 However it works with non-zero numbers... Thoughts? and TIA header LOCAL_TESTHEADERTESTHEADER =~

Re: Blacklist Mining Project - Project Tarbaby

2008-08-26 Thread Robert Schetterer
Marc Perkel schrieb: Hi everyone, I'm launching a free spam reduction service to help build up my blacklists. It involves adding a fake high numbered MX record to your existing MX list that points to one of our servers. We always return a 451 error but we have a very good way of detecting

Re: Help with Junk from Hotmail and Yahoo's Servers

2008-08-26 Thread Robert Schetterer
Henrik K schrieb: On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 10:40:08PM -0700, Jake Maul wrote: I get spam like this too. I'd tell you to train your bayes db better, but no amount of learning these things seems to have any effect for me- the next one in just just right back at BAYES_50. Mine are also largely from

Re: Blacklist Mining Project - Project Tarbaby

2008-08-26 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* Robert Schetterer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Project Tarbaby helps you reduce spam and helps us build our blacklist. This is done by adding a fake MX record to your existing MX lists thats could be seen as a security risk cause in rare cases you may recieve legal mails i.e at an network outage

Re: Blacklist Mining Project - Project Tarbaby

2008-08-26 Thread Graham Murray
Ralf Hildebrandt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: * Robert Schetterer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: thats could be seen as a security risk cause in rare cases you may recieve legal mails i.e at an network outage etc How? He tempfails all mails. Because some senders erroneously treat a tempfail as a permfail

Re: Blacklist Mining Project - Project Tarbaby

2008-08-26 Thread Robert Schetterer
Ralf Hildebrandt schrieb: * Robert Schetterer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Project Tarbaby helps you reduce spam and helps us build our blacklist. This is done by adding a fake MX record to your existing MX lists thats could be seen as a security risk cause in rare cases you may recieve legal mails

Re: Triggering rules but not scoring

2008-08-26 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Tue, 2008-08-26 at 00:34 -0400, Munroe Sollog wrote: I'm not quite sure I understand what is happening here: http://www.pastebin.ca/1184943 it looks like the message is triggering rules but in the end it is getting '0' points See the very last two lines. They mention the rules hit. In

Re: Blacklist Mining Project - Project Tarbaby

2008-08-26 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* Graham Murray [EMAIL PROTECTED]: How? He tempfails all mails. Because some senders erroneously treat a tempfail as a permfail (or even worse as a successful delivery) and do not retry. Well, idjuts I say. They won't even pass greylisting on the primary or the secondary MX, so why bother?

Re: Blacklist Mining Project - Project Tarbaby

2008-08-26 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
Ralf Hildebrandt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: * Robert Schetterer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: thats could be seen as a security risk cause in rare cases you may recieve legal mails i.e at an network outage etc How? He tempfails all mails. On 26.08.08 10:21, Graham Murray wrote: Because some

Re: Blacklist Mining Project - Project Tarbaby

2008-08-26 Thread Arvid Ephraim Picciani
On Tuesday 26 August 2008 11:12:23 Ralf Hildebrandt wrote: * Robert Schetterer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Project Tarbaby helps you reduce spam and helps us build our blacklist. This is done by adding a fake MX record to your existing MX lists thats could be seen as a security risk cause in

Re: Blacklist Mining Project - Project Tarbaby

2008-08-26 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* Ralf Hildebrandt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Because some senders erroneously treat a tempfail as a permfail (or even worse as a successful delivery) and do not retry. Well, idjuts I say. They won't even pass greylisting on the primary or the secondary MX, so why bother? OTOH if all my real

Re: Blacklist Mining Project - Project Tarbaby

2008-08-26 Thread ram
On Tue, 2008-08-26 at 10:21 +0100, Graham Murray wrote: Ralf Hildebrandt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: * Robert Schetterer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: thats could be seen as a security risk cause in rare cases you may recieve legal mails i.e at an network outage etc I think just hits on the fake

Re: custom rule with pattern test of 0 (zero) not processed

2008-08-26 Thread Mark Martinec
On Tuesday 26 August 2008 10:09:37 mouss wrote: dms dms wrote: Hello all, I searched high and low but could not find anywhere that says the following rule patten is invalid or not allowed in SpamAssassin 3.2.5 on CentOS 5.1 However it works with non-zero numbers... Thoughts? and TIA

Re: How to avoid localhost mails tagged as spam

2008-08-26 Thread McDonald, Dan
On Tue, 2008-08-26 at 01:10 +0200, GoodnGo.de (R) Zentrale wrote: My question: All emails from localhost are tagged als ***Spam*** in the subject line. since localhost is unknown, you might want to add it to your /etc/hosts Hello Dan,thanx, just did that ...Spmafilter is working fine.Just

Re: How to avoid localhost mails tagged as spam

2008-08-26 Thread Lê Ngọc Hiếu
In my case, I setup Postfix to listen on 2 ports (that means 2 instances) - Regular port 25 will pass to SA - Another port will not pass to SA and we use this port to send mail to each other. Cheers, Hieu N. Le On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 6:22 PM, McDonald, Dan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue,

Re: Triggering rules but not scoring

2008-08-26 Thread Munroe Sollog
I am using sa-update for the stock rules. I run: sa-update -D --channelfile /etc/mail/spamassassin/sa-update-channels.txt --gpgkey 856AA88A where sa-update-channels.txt contains: updates.spamassassin.org 70_sare_stocks.cf.sare.sa-update.dostech.net

Re: Triggering rules but not scoring

2008-08-26 Thread Munroe Sollog
Here is the -t output http://www.pastebin.ca/1185205 Munroe Sollog Systems Engineer Digirati Consulting, Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bob Proulx wrote: Munroe Sollog wrote: I'm not quite sure I understand what is happening here: http://www.pastebin.ca/1184943 it looks like the message is

Updating rules with old version of spamassassin

2008-08-26 Thread patrickbaer
Good day, I am running a pretty old Debian box with spamassassin 3.0 here. It seems to have some problems with rulesdujour and hence I am wondering if I shouldn't upgrade to the current version. Pro: Current version has up to date docs and features Cons: The machine is very important (proxy)

RE: Updating rules with old version of spamassassin

2008-08-26 Thread Martin.Hepworth
Patrick Yes RDJ will still work, but only for the ones you've enabled. There's been very liitle update on the standard RDJ ruleset for months now. So don't expect to see much updating. Sa-update is the way to go for more modern versiosn, this will also keep the core rules updated too. --

Re: Triggering rules but not scoring

2008-08-26 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Tue, 2008-08-26 at 07:43 -0400, Munroe Sollog wrote: I am using sa-update for the stock rules. I run: sa-update -D --channelfile /etc/mail/spamassassin/sa-update-channels.txt --gpgkey 856AA88A where sa-update-channels.txt contains: updates.spamassassin.org

Re: Triggering rules but not scoring

2008-08-26 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Tue, 2008-08-26 at 14:02 +0200, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: On Tue, 2008-08-26 at 07:43 -0400, Munroe Sollog wrote: updates.spamassassin.org 70_sare_stocks.cf.sare.sa-update.dostech.net [ snip ] $ ls *.cf /var/lib/spamassassin/3.002005/ Err, whoops. Of course, make that $ ls

Re: custom rule with pattern test of 0 (zero) not processed

2008-08-26 Thread dms dms
Thanks to all for confirming, a bug report has been opened. https://issues.apache.org/SpamAssassin/show_bug.cgi?id=5965

spamd: bad protocol: header error

2008-08-26 Thread Marc Perkel
Getting a lot of these: spamd: bad protocol: header error: (closed before headers) at /usr/bin/spamd line 2001. Not sure what this means. Thanks in advance for your help.

Re: Blacklist Mining Project - Project Tarbaby

2008-08-26 Thread Marc Perkel
Robert Schetterer wrote: Marc Perkel schrieb: Hi everyone, I'm launching a free spam reduction service to help build up my blacklists. It involves adding a fake high numbered MX record to your existing MX list that points to one of our servers. We always return a 451 error but we have a

Re: Blacklist Mining Project - Project Tarbaby

2008-08-26 Thread Marc Perkel
Graham Murray wrote: Ralf Hildebrandt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: * Robert Schetterer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: thats could be seen as a security risk cause in rare cases you may recieve legal mails i.e at an network outage etc How? He tempfails all mails. Because some senders

Re: Blacklist Mining Project - Project Tarbaby

2008-08-26 Thread Ken A
Ralf Hildebrandt wrote: * Robert Schetterer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Project Tarbaby helps you reduce spam and helps us build our blacklist. This is done by adding a fake MX record to your existing MX lists thats could be seen as a security risk cause in rare cases you may recieve legal mails i.e

Re: Blacklist Mining Project - Project Tarbaby

2008-08-26 Thread John Hardin
On Tue, 26 Aug 2008, Marc Perkel wrote: Robert Schetterer wrote: thats could be seen as a security risk cause in rare cases you may recieve legal mails i.e at an network outage etc We don't actually receive and emails. Everything is turned away with a 451. So you say. Marc, the point

Re: Blacklist Mining Project - Project Tarbaby

2008-08-26 Thread John Hardin
On Tue, 26 Aug 2008, Marc Perkel wrote: If that were the case then they already would have failed before getting to tarbaby as your main server is out. Just a stylistic note: tarbaby is a poor term to use if you want to reassure people that your service will not cause any loss of email. The

Re: Blacklist Mining Project - Project Tarbaby

2008-08-26 Thread Marc Perkel
Ken A wrote: Ralf Hildebrandt wrote: * Robert Schetterer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Project Tarbaby helps you reduce spam and helps us build our blacklist. This is done by adding a fake MX record to your existing MX lists thats could be seen as a security risk cause in rare cases you may

Re: spamd: bad protocol: header error

2008-08-26 Thread Edward Francis Klimowicz
Marc Perkel wrote: Getting a lot of these: spamd: bad protocol: header error: (closed before headers) at /usr/bin/spamd line 2001. Not sure what this means. Thanks in advance for your help. That implies that something opened up a network socket to spamd, then closed the socket before

Re: Blacklist Mining Project - Project Tarbaby

2008-08-26 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* Ken A [EMAIL PROTECTED]: How? He tempfails all mails. Are you asking how sending your customer, or company email off someplace you don't control might be a security risk? It's in no way more dangerous than using Postini... -- Ralf Hildebrandt (i.A. des IT-Zentrums) [EMAIL

Re: Blacklist Mining Project - Project Tarbaby

2008-08-26 Thread Kelson
Marc Perkel wrote: Graham Murray wrote: Because some senders erroneously treat a tempfail as a permfail (or even worse as a successful delivery) and do not retry. If that were the case then they already would have failed before getting to tarbaby as your main server is out. If they are on

Re: Blacklist Mining Project - Project Tarbaby

2008-08-26 Thread Ken A
Ralf Hildebrandt wrote: * Ken A [EMAIL PROTECTED]: How? He tempfails all mails. Are you asking how sending your customer, or company email off someplace you don't control might be a security risk? It's in no way more dangerous than using Postini... Have you compared Postini's contract

Re: FreeMail plugin

2008-08-26 Thread Larry Nedry
On 3/21/08 at 4:59 PM +0200 Henrik K wrote: Hehe, yeah it should be ok. Let me know if you spot any false FPs with REPLYTO.. I recently installed the FreeMail 1.10 SA plugin and am getting a ridiculous number of FPs. I haven't installed Regexp::Assemble but that shouldn't make any difference in

Re: Blacklist Mining Project - Project Tarbaby

2008-08-26 Thread Ken A
Marc Perkel wrote: Ken A wrote: Ralf Hildebrandt wrote: * Robert Schetterer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Project Tarbaby helps you reduce spam and helps us build our blacklist. This is done by adding a fake MX record to your existing MX lists thats could be seen as a security risk cause in rare

Re: Blacklist Mining Project - Project Tarbaby

2008-08-26 Thread Marc Perkel
Ken A wrote: Ralf Hildebrandt wrote: * Ken A [EMAIL PROTECTED]: How? He tempfails all mails. Are you asking how sending your customer, or company email off someplace you don't control might be a security risk? It's in no way more dangerous than using Postini... Have you compared

Re: FreeMail plugin

2008-08-26 Thread Henrik K
On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 11:15:32AM -0500, Larry Nedry wrote: On 3/21/08 at 4:59 PM +0200 Henrik K wrote: Hehe, yeah it should be ok. Let me know if you spot any false FPs with REPLYTO.. I recently installed the FreeMail 1.10 SA plugin and am getting a ridiculous number of FPs. I haven't

Re: FreeMail plugin

2008-08-26 Thread McDonald, Dan
On Tue, 2008-08-26 at 11:15 -0500, Larry Nedry wrote: Below are the FreeMail stats from the last 10,000 messages processed by SA. Are these scores based on hand-sorted spam/ham? Or is %OFHAM because this is the only test that hit? FREEMAIL_FROM is by nature a pretty week sign.

Sa-learn

2008-08-26 Thread Thiago Henrique
Hi, I have a MTA server with Postfix2.4.5 + Amavisd-New2.5.2 + SpamAssassin3.2.3. In another machine, I have a Mailbox server with Cyrus-Imapd2.3.11. The users are virtual users and are in a Ldap database. We want to enable the learning Bayesian in SpamAssassin. I read enough doc of sa-learn

RE: Sa-learn

2008-08-26 Thread Martin.Hepworth
Theres quite a few docs about sa-learning and imap email boxes. Doesn't matter whetr it's remote or local in this scenario. -- martin -Original Message- From: Thiago Henrique [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 5:57 PM To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: Sa-learn

Re: Sa-learn

2008-08-26 Thread Ivan Levchenko
Hi, I wrote this script some time ago. here is how it works: I have an imap account that several users added to their email clients. whenever they get a spam message that didn't get identified - they move the message over to this spam account, and when they get a false positive, they move it

Re: Sa-learn

2008-08-26 Thread John Hardin
On Tue, 26 Aug 2008, Ivan Levchenko wrote: I have an imap account that several users added to their email clients. ... and when they get a false positive, they move it to the ham account. So in other words, users can see each others' false positive email? That may work in some

Re: Sa-learn

2008-08-26 Thread Ivan Levchenko
this works in my circumstances - the email is all strictly work in a small company, and no personal things are sent here - nobody has any problem with it, and the email is deleted as soon as it gets processed. As I said, its easy to redo the script to work in other cases. there is an alternative

Re: Blacklist Mining Project - Project Tarbaby

2008-08-26 Thread Aaron Wolfe
On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 12:26 PM, Marc Perkel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ken A wrote: Ralf Hildebrandt wrote: * Ken A [EMAIL PROTECTED]: How? He tempfails all mails. Are you asking how sending your customer, or company email off someplace you don't control might be a security risk?

adding score for email from noreply@

2008-08-26 Thread Curtis LaMasters
I'm having a pretty hard time with this one for some reason, mainly because I don't understand regex. I have a large number of emails that are getting past my spamassassin setup (Maia Mailguard 1.02a) as well as my Barracuda. I would like to add a score to email from [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm not

RE: adding score for email from noreply@

2008-08-26 Thread Bowie Bailey
Curtis LaMasters wrote: I'm having a pretty hard time with this one for some reason, mainly because I don't understand regex. I have a large number of emails that are getting past my spamassassin setup (Maia Mailguard 1.02a) as well as my Barracuda. I would like to add a score to email from

Re: adding score for email from noreply@

2008-08-26 Thread Curtis LaMasters
Excellent, Much easier than I was expecting. Thank you very much. I'll get to testing. Curtis LaMasters http://www.curtis-lamasters.com http://www.builtnetworks.com

Re: adding score for email from noreply@

2008-08-26 Thread Curtis LaMasters
What is the i for after reply/ ? Would just general research for perl expressions be helpful for me? I guessing so since Spamassassin uses perl as it's language of choice. Thanks for your input. Curtis LaMasters http://www.curtis-lamasters.com http://www.builtnetworks.com

local.cf config verification

2008-08-26 Thread Curtis LaMasters
Is it ok to post up my local.cf for you more experienced fold to look at? In my opinion, I believe, Spamassassin is doing a great job, I just want to see if there is anything else that I can put into it. I'm also using rules-de-jor and SARE. Curtis LaMasters http://www.curtis-lamasters.com

Re: adding score for email from noreply@

2008-08-26 Thread John Hardin
On Tue, 26 Aug 2008, Curtis LaMasters wrote: What is the i for after reply/ ? Case-insensitive match. Would just general research for perl expressions be helpful for me? I guessing so since Spamassassin uses perl as it's language of choice. Learning how regular expressions work is a very

Re: adding score for email from noreply@

2008-08-26 Thread mouss
Bowie Bailey wrote: Curtis LaMasters wrote: I'm having a pretty hard time with this one for some reason, mainly because I don't understand regex. I have a large number of emails that are getting past my spamassassin setup (Maia Mailguard 1.02a) as well as my Barracuda. I would like to add a

Re: adding score for email from noreply@

2008-08-26 Thread McDonald, Dan
On Tue, 2008-08-26 at 16:00 -0500, Curtis LaMasters wrote: What is the i for after reply/ ? case Insensitive Would just general research for perl expressions be helpful for me? Yes. perldoc perlretut is a great place to start. -- Daniel J McDonald, CCIE #2495, CISSP #78281, CNX Austin

Re: local.cf config verification

2008-08-26 Thread mouss
Curtis LaMasters wrote: Is it ok to post up my local.cf for you more experienced fold to look at? In my opinion, I believe, Spamassassin is doing a great job, I just want to see if there is anything else that I can put into it. I'm also using rules-de-jor and SARE. consider using sa-update

Re: Blacklist Mining Project - Project Tarbaby

2008-08-26 Thread Marc Perkel
Aaron Wolfe wrote: On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 12:26 PM, Marc Perkel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You continue to miss the point, or maybe you just don't want to understand it. Sending my client's email to your servers is irresponsible at best and possibly even a violation of contract or illegal.

Re: local.cf config verification

2008-08-26 Thread McDonald, Dan
On Tue, 2008-08-26 at 16:13 -0500, Curtis LaMasters wrote: Is it ok to post up my local.cf for you more experienced fold to look at? In my opinion, I believe, Spamassassin is doing a great job, I just want to see if there is anything else that I can put into it. There is always stuff you

Whitelist config for internal/external servers

2008-08-26 Thread Camron W. Fox
Alle, We are running SA V3.2.4 on RHEL5.1. We would like to whitelist mail coming from inside our network. Spamassassin is located on our DMZ servers. Users use the internal SMTP relay to send mail. The internal domain is foo.ac.jp. The external domain is foo.org. (Don't ask). *All*

Re: Whitelist config for internal/external servers

2008-08-26 Thread John Hardin
On Tue, 26 Aug 2008, Camron W. Fox wrote: We are running SA V3.2.4 on RHEL5.1. How do messages get passed to SA for scoring? The best way is to note the internal origination of the message and bypass SA entirely. Exactly how that is done depends on your plumbing. -- John Hardin

Re: Blacklist Mining Project - Project Tarbaby

2008-08-26 Thread mouss
Marc Perkel wrote: And - I'm putting this out for those who are interested. You are not interested so this doesn't affect you. Mark, This debate can continue until the end of time (assuming time has an end ;-p). How about creating a dedicated mailing list?

Re: Blacklist Mining Project - Project Tarbaby

2008-08-26 Thread Duane Hill
On Wed, 27 Aug 2008, mouss wrote: Marc Perkel wrote: And - I'm putting this out for those who are interested. You are not interested so this doesn't affect you. Mark, This debate can continue until the end of time (assuming time has an end ;-p). How about creating a dedicated mailing

Report Safe

2008-08-26 Thread Denise Ricerra
Hi! Sorry I am a newbie here at spam assassin. I just have a question, when I set the report safe to '1' the message gets altered, even for the important message being tagged as SPAM. How do I get the original message. Is there some sort of directory or logs to view it? I am using qmail

Re: Whitelist config for internal/external servers

2008-08-26 Thread Duane Hill
On Tue, 26 Aug 2008, Camron W. Fox wrote: Alle, We are running SA V3.2.4 on RHEL5.1. We would like to whitelist mail coming from inside our network. Spamassassin is located on our DMZ servers. Users use the internal SMTP relay to send mail. The internal domain is foo.ac.jp. The external

Re: Report Safe

2008-08-26 Thread Duane Hill
On Wed, 27 Aug 2008, Denise Ricerra wrote: Hi! Sorry I am a newbie here at spam assassin. I just have a question, when I set the report safe to ?1? the message gets altered, even for the important message being tagged as SPAM. How do I get the original message. Is there some sort of

Re: Whitelist config for internal/external servers

2008-08-26 Thread Camron W. Fox
John Hardin wrote: On Tue, 26 Aug 2008, Camron W. Fox wrote: We are running SA V3.2.4 on RHEL5.1. How do messages get passed to SA for scoring? The best way is to note the internal origination of the message and bypass SA entirely. Exactly how that is done depends on your plumbing.

RE: Report Safe

2008-08-26 Thread Duane Hill
Please respond to the list. I'm not the only one that can provide feedback. On Wed, 27 Aug 2008, Denise Ricerra wrote: Thanks for the response. But is there some sort of a log file where we can check the mails that are tagged as spam? Also, is it possible to redirect mails tagged as spam to

RE: Blacklist Mining Project - Project Tarbaby

2008-08-26 Thread RobertH
Perkel wrote: What if your server is compromised or your DNS is hijacked? I'm doing the same thing Postini is doing, just better. Besides, if you keep your email servers and backup servers online then good email will never reach my server. And - I'm putting this out for those who are