Re: SOUGHT 2.0 ?

2014-11-13 Thread Kevin Golding
On Thu, 13 Nov 2014 02:17:54 -, Ian Zimmerman i...@buug.org wrote: On Sat, 01 Nov 2014 10:06:57 -, Kevin Golding k...@caomhin.org wrote: Kevin So anyone else want to raise their hands? It depends. Would I mind a bit of regular maintenance work? No, I wouldn't mind. Would I mind a

Re: SOUGHT 2.0 ?

2014-11-13 Thread Anthony Cartmell
As Alex has said there's a need for mirrors etc. - that could potentially be the biggest impact on volunteers (assuming they offer to help with that aspect) since they will be a more public facing contribution and it would be great if it didn't spend more time offline than online. What

Re: SOUGHT 2.0 ?

2014-11-13 Thread Axb
On 11/13/2014 12:54 PM, Anthony Cartmell wrote: As Alex has said there's a need for mirrors etc. - that could potentially be the biggest impact on volunteers (assuming they offer to help with that aspect) since they will be a more public facing contribution and it would be great if it didn't

Re: Spams with dot link or European Union suffixes

2014-11-13 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
On 11/12/2014 8:23 PM, John Hardin wrote: It's possible that the maintainers of DOB don't have access to the .eu or .link TLD registrar feeds. If you come across one of these again, try: We looked at this yesterday, actually. Joe found that the DOB RBL does not list .eu or .link domains.

Re: 163.com

2014-11-13 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 12.11.2014 um 18:45 schrieb Joe Quinn: We've been getting hammered by spam from 163.com for quite a while now, and I really /really/ want to blacklist it, but it's one of the largest websites in the world. Everything I have found on Google points to them being blatant spammers, down to the

Missing Modules

2014-11-13 Thread Niamh Holding
OS CentOS 6.4 yum only offers 3.3.1-3.el6 So I'm building 3.4.0 from source but Makefile.PL reports missing moduiles, should these be installed from CPAN? *** NOTE: the optional Mail::SPF module is not installed. Used

Re: Missing Modules

2014-11-13 Thread Axb
On 11/13/2014 03:09 PM, Niamh Holding wrote: OS CentOS 6.4 6.4 is old - centos 6.6 (do you seriously make a point of running old versions?) yum only offers 3.3.1-3.el6 forget SA from YUM /Distro packages. - it ties you to, as Benny sez, precompiled problems :) So I'm building 3.4.0

Re: Missing Modules

2014-11-13 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 13.11.14 14:09, Niamh Holding wrote: OS CentOS 6.4 yum only offers 3.3.1-3.el6 So I'm building 3.4.0 from source but Makefile.PL reports missing moduiles, should these be installed from CPAN? ...via yum, whenever possible -- Matus UHLAR - fantomas, uh...@fantomas.sk ;

Re: Missing Modules

2014-11-13 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 11/13/2014 03:09 PM, Niamh Holding wrote: OS CentOS 6.4 6.4 is old - centos 6.6 (do you seriously make a point of running old versions?) yum only offers 3.3.1-3.el6 On 13.11.14 15:21, Axb wrote: forget SA from YUM /Distro packages. - it ties you to, as Benny sez, precompiled problems

Re: Missing Modules

2014-11-13 Thread Giles Coochey
On 13/11/2014 14:21, Axb wrote: On 11/13/2014 03:09 PM, Niamh Holding wrote: OS CentOS 6.4 6.4 is old - centos 6.6 (do you seriously make a point of running old versions?) yum only offers 3.3.1-3.el6 forget SA from YUM /Distro packages. - it ties you to, as Benny sez, precompiled

Re: Missing Modules

2014-11-13 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 13.11.2014 um 15:21 schrieb Axb: On 11/13/2014 03:09 PM, Niamh Holding wrote: OS CentOS 6.4 6.4 is old - centos 6.6 (do you seriously make a point of running old versions?) yum only offers 3.3.1-3.el6 forget SA from YUM /Distro packages. - it ties you to, as Benny sez, precompiled

Re: 163.com

2014-11-13 Thread Noel Butler
blatant spammers for well over _10_ years, I dont know one admin in APAC who has not blocked them a loong time ago, I also question the one of the largest in the world rubbish too, maybe from China's point of view they might be, but not from this part of the world On 13/11/2014 03:45,

Re: Missing Modules

2014-11-13 Thread Axb
On 11/13/2014 03:35 PM, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: On 11/13/2014 03:09 PM, Niamh Holding wrote: OS CentOS 6.4 6.4 is old - centos 6.6 (do you seriously make a point of running old versions?) yum only offers 3.3.1-3.el6 On 13.11.14 15:21, Axb wrote: forget SA from YUM /Distro

Re: Missing Modules

2014-11-13 Thread Axb
On 11/13/2014 03:34 PM, Giles Coochey wrote: I avoid the distribution perl completely, and use perlbrew and spamassassin 3.4.0 compiled from source, with a specific perlbrew perl version I avoid breaking the version of perl that comes with the system and can satisfy all dependencies via CPAN.

Re: Missing Modules

2014-11-13 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
On 11/13/2014 9:51 AM, Axb wrote: On 11/13/2014 03:34 PM, Giles Coochey wrote: I avoid the distribution perl completely, and use perlbrew and spamassassin 3.4.0 compiled from source, with a specific perlbrew perl version I avoid breaking the version of perl that comes with the system and can

Re: Missing Modules

2014-11-13 Thread Axb
On 11/13/2014 03:42 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 13.11.2014 um 15:21 schrieb Axb: On 11/13/2014 03:09 PM, Niamh Holding wrote: OS CentOS 6.4 6.4 is old - centos 6.6 (do you seriously make a point of running old versions?) yum only offers 3.3.1-3.el6 forget SA from YUM /Distro packages.

Re: SOUGHT 2.0 ?

2014-11-13 Thread Tom Johnson
We (MailRoute) would be happy to pitch in. We can host mirrors in a couple of datacenters (Los Angeles and Chicago). And we'll help out wherever else we can. Tom

Re: 163.com

2014-11-13 Thread Axb
On 11/13/2014 03:44 PM, Noel Butler wrote: blatant spammers for well over _10_ years, I dont know one admin in APAC who has not blocked them a loong time ago, I also question the one of the largest in the world rubbish too, maybe from China's point of view they might be, but not from

Re: Missing Modules

2014-11-13 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 13.11.2014 um 15:55 schrieb Axb: On 11/13/2014 03:42 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 13.11.2014 um 15:21 schrieb Axb: On 11/13/2014 03:09 PM, Niamh Holding wrote: OS CentOS 6.4 6.4 is old - centos 6.6 (do you seriously make a point of running old versions?) yum only offers 3.3.1-3.el6

Re: Missing Modules

2014-11-13 Thread Niamh Holding
Hello Axb, Thursday, November 13, 2014, 2:21:44 PM, you wrote: (do you seriously make a point of running old versions?) If it ain't broke don't mess with it! Given that the other server is now dead after the suggested yum update :( Dead as in booting up from a spare disk in the raid assay

Re: Missing Modules

2014-11-13 Thread Axb
On 11/13/2014 04:22 PM, Niamh Holding wrote: Hello Axb, Thursday, November 13, 2014, 2:21:44 PM, you wrote: (do you seriously make a point of running old versions?) If it ain't broke don't mess with it! what about security updates? Given that the other server is now dead after the

Re: Missing Modules

2014-11-13 Thread Axb
On 11/13/2014 04:17 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: least effort *now* but in 3 years on that machine... that gives the victim enough time to learn the process and apply to a new setup... and you're suggesting he change distro no, i just said if you bypass the package management, bring manual

Re: Missing Modules

2014-11-13 Thread Niamh Holding
Hello Axb, Thursday, November 13, 2014, 3:40:53 PM, you wrote: the lady can start a weekend knowing the box is tagging spam. First I have to get the damned ISP to stop blocking port 53 so the world knows where to send the spam. Most of yesterday was spent trying to work out why DNS was

Re: Missing Modules

2014-11-13 Thread Niamh Holding
Hello Axb, Thursday, November 13, 2014, 3:29:00 PM, you wrote: what about security updates? Bash and ssl were addressed when announced. A spare array disk should only be a crutch till you replace the original disk.. simple BCP. It's not a crutch it's booting up to how the server was 2

Re: Missing Modules

2014-11-13 Thread Benny Pedersen
On November 13, 2014 3:55:05 PM Axb axb.li...@gmail.com wrote: Pls stay in your hole and allow me to get this guy off this thread. http://www.centos.org/ seem centos 7 is there now, but its still a problem if there is no maintainers of spamassassin there, rule updates with iso files, hmm

Re: Missing Modules

2014-11-13 Thread Niamh Holding
Hello Benny, Thursday, November 13, 2014, 4:29:32 PM, you wrote: if there is no maintainers of spamassassin there That's why I build from source, I'm not aware od a 3.4.0 rpm either. -- Best regards, Holtainmailto:holt...@hotmail.com

Re: Hacked sites: dropbox/googlebox/banking/newgdoc

2014-11-13 Thread Paul Stead
Recent: http://www[.]ygdholdings[.]com/bankline/message[.]php On 08/11/14 15:19, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 04.11.2014 um 11:30 schrieb Axb: On 11/04/2014 02:31 AM, David Jones wrote: Can someone post an example of this latest version to pastebin? I filter for over 90,000 mailboxes and don't

Re: Missing Modules

2014-11-13 Thread John Hardin
On Thu, 13 Nov 2014, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: I disagree. I often tell people to put a screwdriver near the server and convince it you will dismantle it AND you don't know how to rebuild it. Keeps the server on it's toes far better than if it thinks we know what we're doing... That and put

Re: Hacked sites: dropbox/googlebox/banking/newgdoc

2014-11-13 Thread Axb
lucky you.. you got it early: right now: ygdholdings.com listed on black.uribl.com ygdholdings.com listed on jp.surbl.org ygdholdings.com listed on mw.surbl.org ygdholdings.com listed on uri.invaluement.com On 11/13/2014 05:49 PM, Paul Stead wrote: Recent:

Rules for testing

2014-11-13 Thread Paul Stead
Hey guys, I've developed a few rules which seem to be hitting well, could I get these into the sandbox? TO_EQ_FROM_NAME will match headers that look like the following: From: t...@example.com u...@anotherdomain.com To: t...@example.com 8 header __PDS_TO_EQ_FROM_NAME_1

Re: Rules for testing

2014-11-13 Thread Axb
On 11/13/2014 06:07 PM, Paul Stead wrote: Hey guys, I've developed a few rules which seem to be hitting well, could I get these into the sandbox? TO_EQ_FROM_NAME will match headers that look like the following: From: t...@example.com u...@anotherdomain.com To: t...@example.com 8

.co.at

2014-11-13 Thread Axb
snowshoe... high fashion May cause FPs co.at is a subdomain hoster/pseudo tld uri AXB_URI_WHATCOAT/http\:\/\/\w+\.co\.at\// won't last long...

Re: .co.at

2014-11-13 Thread Mark Martinec
snowshoe... high fashion May cause FPs co.at is a subdomain hoster/pseudo tld uri AXB_URI_WHATCOAT/http\:\/\/\w+\.co\.at\// uri AXB_URI_WHATCOAT m{http://\w+\.co\.at/} http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leaning_toothpick_syndrome :) Mark

Re: Rules for testing

2014-11-13 Thread Paul Stead
I was under the assumption that header matches only match the single line, The subject repeat one: Subject: Re: Hello Re: Hello Wouldn't the second line become the Re: header? The same with the From:/To: headers - I'm comparing the two headers - is there a better way? Paul On 13/11/14

Re: Rules for testing

2014-11-13 Thread John Hardin
On Thu, 13 Nov 2014, Paul Stead wrote: I've developed a few rules which seem to be hitting well, could I get these into the sandbox? TO_EQ_FROM_NAME will match headers that look like the following: From: t...@example.com u...@anotherdomain.com To: t...@example.com I'll review that and add

Re: .co.at

2014-11-13 Thread Axb
On 11/13/2014 06:55 PM, Mark Martinec wrote: snowshoe... high fashion May cause FPs co.at is a subdomain hoster/pseudo tld uriAXB_URI_WHATCOAT/http\:\/\/\w+\.co\.at\// uri AXB_URI_WHATCOAT m{http://\w+\.co\.at/} http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leaning_toothpick_syndrome :) hmpf

Re: Rules for testing

2014-11-13 Thread John Hardin
On Thu, 13 Nov 2014, Paul Stead wrote: I was under the assumption that header matches only match the single line, The subject repeat one: Subject: Re: Hello Re: Hello Wouldn't the second line become the Re: header? If the Re: is actually *not* indented, yes. You are correct. The same

Re: Rules for testing

2014-11-13 Thread Axb
On 11/13/2014 06:55 PM, Paul Stead wrote: I was under the assumption that header matches only match the single line, The subject repeat one: Subject: Re: Hello Re: Hello Wouldn't the second line become the Re: header? The same with the From:/To: headers - I'm comparing the two headers - is

Re: Rules for testing

2014-11-13 Thread Paul Stead
Sending examples for testing: http://pastebin.com/J0R1AYdw - SUBJECT_REPEAT http://pastebin.com/v6BD4m2V - TO_EQ_FROM_NAME / FROM_2_EMAILS http://pastebin.com/pbqUn9qw - FROM_2_EMAILS Paul On 13/11/14 17:55, Paul Stead wrote: I was under the assumption that header matches only match the

Re: Rules for testing

2014-11-13 Thread Paul Stead
On 13/11/14 18:01, John Hardin wrote: There's already hacked-wordpress rules in testing. I'll compare to existing and see if this is already covered, can be merged neatly, or would be a variant subrule. The testing sub-rule was mine - this is slightly adjusted. The rules in sandbox for

Re: .co.at

2014-11-13 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 13.11.2014 um 18:41 schrieb Axb: snowshoe... high fashion May cause FPs co.at is a subdomain hoster/pseudo tld no, it's the same as co.uk and on the same level as .at itself, meaning you and anybody else can register it by nic.at (the official registry for .at) or a approved

Re: Missing Modules

2014-11-13 Thread Niamh Holding
Hello Axb, Thursday, November 13, 2014, 5:45:02 PM, you wrote: sometimes a small hint can save time and frustration... are you nearly there by now? Looks not to bad, even if for reasons stated I can only test from within the LAN- Nov 13 18:24:21 magnesium spamd[21634]: spamd: connection

Re: Rules for testing

2014-11-13 Thread Paul Stead
On 13/11/14 18:01, John Hardin wrote: On Thu, 13 Nov 2014, Paul Stead wrote: TO_EQ_FROM_NAME will match headers that look like the following: From: t...@example.com u...@anotherdomain.com To: t...@example.com I'll review that and add it to my sandbox with the other TO_EQ_FROM rules. I've

Re: Missing Modules

2014-11-13 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 13.11.2014 um 19:26 schrieb Niamh Holding: Though spamassassin doesn't currently appear in the chkconfig --list chkconfig --add spamassassin [harry@srv-rhsoft:~]$ chkconfig --help chkconfig Version 1.3.63 - Copyright (C) 1997-2008 Red Hat, Inc. Kostenlose Weitergabe unter den Bedingungen

Re: .co.at

2014-11-13 Thread Axb
On 11/13/2014 07:20 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 13.11.2014 um 18:41 schrieb Axb: snowshoe... high fashion May cause FPs co.at is a subdomain hoster/pseudo tld no, it's the same as co.uk and on the same level as .at itself, meaning you and anybody else can register it by nic.at (the

Re: Missing Modules

2014-11-13 Thread Axb
On 11/13/2014 07:26 PM, Niamh Holding wrote: Hello Axb, Thursday, November 13, 2014, 5:45:02 PM, you wrote: sometimes a small hint can save time and frustration... are you nearly there by now? Looks not to bad, even if for reasons stated I can only test from within the LAN- Nov 13

Re: .co.at

2014-11-13 Thread Axb
On 11/13/2014 07:31 PM, Axb wrote: On 11/13/2014 07:20 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 13.11.2014 um 18:41 schrieb Axb: snowshoe... high fashion May cause FPs co.at is a subdomain hoster/pseudo tld no, it's the same as co.uk and on the same level as .at itself, meaning you and anybody

Re: SOUGHT 2.0 ?

2014-11-13 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On Thu, 13 Nov 2014 09:28:30 -, Kevin Golding k...@caomhin.org wrote: Kevin The main thing that's going to be needed is good, reliable, Kevin data. We'll only get good rules with good feeds. That should be Kevin fairly low impact for people in many respects. Kevin Obviously there's always

Re: Rules for testing

2014-11-13 Thread Paul Stead
On 13/11/14 17:07, Paul Stead wrote: FROM_2_EMAILS - inspired by the Khopesh rule of the same name. Matches when the from name contains an email address different to the from address, such as: From: t...@example.com u...@anotherdomain.com 8 header __PDS_FROM_2_EMAILS From =~

Re: Missing Modules

2014-11-13 Thread Niamh Holding
Hello Axb, Thursday, November 13, 2014, 6:33:35 PM, you wrote: or are you using procmail? Yep :0fw spamassassin.lock * 512000 | /usr/local/bin/spamc -u spamtest # | /usr/local/bin/spamassassin # All mail with a score 10 is dumped to /dev/null :0 * ^X-Spam-Level: \*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*

Re: Missing Modules

2014-11-13 Thread Axb
On 11/13/2014 07:50 PM, Niamh Holding wrote: Hello Axb, Thursday, November 13, 2014, 6:33:35 PM, you wrote: or are you using procmail? Yep :0fw spamassassin.lock * 512000 | /usr/local/bin/spamc -u spamtest # | /usr/local/bin/spamassassin # All mail with a score 10 is dumped to /dev/null

Re: .co.at

2014-11-13 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 13.11.2014 um 20:02 schrieb Axb: do I get it right? you work for .co.at? no you stil refuse to understand what .co.at is .co.at === .at if yes, what's the deal with this institution allowing spammers such a blast of sudden abuse? that's not a institution .co.at is as well as.at the

Re: Missing Modules

2014-11-13 Thread Niamh Holding
Hello Axb, Thursday, November 13, 2014, 6:56:05 PM, you wrote: so spamd is running? Something started it so now you gotta find it to make sure you can stop/start the service if required. Me started it- service spamassassin start :) I had the init scripts in a backup from the main server.

Re: .co.at

2014-11-13 Thread Axb
On 11/13/2014 08:06 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 13.11.2014 um 20:02 schrieb Axb: do I get it right? you work for .co.at? no you stil refuse to understand what .co.at is .co.at === .at if yes, what's the deal with this institution allowing spammers such a blast of sudden abuse? that's

Re: Missing Modules

2014-11-13 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 13.11.2014 um 20:10 schrieb Niamh Holding: Hello Axb, Thursday, November 13, 2014, 6:56:05 PM, you wrote: so spamd is running? Something started it so now you gotta find it to make sure you can stop/start the service if required. Me started it- service spamassassin start :) I had the

Re: .co.at

2014-11-13 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 13.11.2014 um 20:06 schrieb Reindl Harald: Am 13.11.2014 um 20:02 schrieb Axb: do I get it right? you work for .co.at? no you stil refuse to understand what .co.at is .co.at === .at if yes, what's the deal with this institution allowing spammers such a blast of sudden abuse? that's

Re: .co.at

2014-11-13 Thread Jonathan Siegle
On 2014-11-13 at 20:18, Reindl Harald wrote: please give me a list of .co.at domains blowing out junk Here is one I just received: Received: from 0934796b.explosis.co.at (29nty.explosis.co.at [67.136.233.21]) by tr11n04.aset.psu.edu (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id sADJPBTs19595484

Re: .co.at

2014-11-13 Thread Axb
On 11/13/2014 08:11 PM, John Hardin wrote: On Thu, 13 Nov 2014, Axb wrote: On 11/13/2014 07:50 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 13.11.2014 um 19:42 schrieb David B Funk: Recently (in the past few days) I've seen a flood of spam that have spamvertized websites registered in the .co.at domain

Re: .co.at

2014-11-13 Thread Axb
On 11/13/2014 08:18 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: please give me a list of .co.at domains blowing out junk in this thread I already posted a pastebin link to the last ones I've seen. i have a special whois and can look if they all are registered by the same registrar and if that is the case i

Re: .co.at

2014-11-13 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 13.11.2014 um 20:33 schrieb Axb: On 11/13/2014 08:18 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: please give me a list of .co.at domains blowing out junk in this thread I already posted a pastebin link to the last ones I've seen. sorry , maybe i missed that i have a special whois and can look if they

whitelist limitations

2014-11-13 Thread Justin Edmands
We have a few thousand vendors in our websites database that I would like to add to a whitelist. I am thinking of creating a /etc/mail/spamassassin/ corewhitelist.cf from this database. What are the limitations/ repercussions of using a sitewide whitelist? If I have 2000 addresses in the

Re: whitelist limitations

2014-11-13 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 13.11.2014 um 21:08 schrieb Justin Edmands: We have a few thousand vendors in our websites database that I would like to add to a whitelist. I am thinking of creating a /etc/mail/spamassassin/corewhitelist.cf http://corewhitelist.cf from this database. What are the limitations/

Re: whitelist limitations

2014-11-13 Thread David B Funk
On Thu, 13 Nov 2014, Justin Edmands wrote: We have a few thousand vendors in our websites database that I would like to add to a whitelist. I am thinking of creating a /etc/mail/spamassassin/corewhitelist.cf from this database. What are the limitations/ repercussions of using a sitewide

Re: whitelist limitations

2014-11-13 Thread Axb
On 11/13/2014 09:08 PM, Justin Edmands wrote: We have a few thousand vendors in our websites database that I would like to add to a whitelist. I am thinking of creating a /etc/mail/spamassassin/ corewhitelist.cf from this database. What are the limitations/ repercussions of using a sitewide

Re: whitelist limitations

2014-11-13 Thread David F. Skoll
On Thu, 13 Nov 2014 15:08:40 -0500 Justin Edmands shockwav...@gmail.com wrote: What if this list grows to 2 entries? How are you calling SpamAssassin? Maybe you should build (for example) a Berkeley DB of whitelisted addresses and simply skip SpamAssassin for those ones, assuming the

Re: whitelist limitations

2014-11-13 Thread John Hardin
On Thu, 13 Nov 2014, Justin Edmands wrote: We have a few thousand vendors in our websites database that I would like to add to a whitelist. I am thinking of creating a /etc/mail/spamassassin/ corewhitelist.cf from this database. What are the limitations/ repercussions of using a sitewide

Re: whitelist limitations

2014-11-13 Thread Benny Pedersen
On November 14, 2014 12:54:15 AM John Hardin jhar...@impsec.org wrote: It might be more efficient to whitelist them in your MTA at the glue level - i.e., if an email comes from their MTA, don't even pass it to SA at all. One draw back is that ham learning is not using content from auth

dealing with mail not yet listed in network tests

2014-11-13 Thread listsb-spamassassin
hi- i've recently asked about essentially this same topic on the postfix-users mailing list, so apologies to those subjected to the repetition. the topic came up for me a couple of weeks ago when i asked about duplicate spam that was scoring low the first time it was received:

Re: dealing with mail not yet listed in network tests

2014-11-13 Thread John Hardin
On Thu, 13 Nov 2014, listsb-spamassas...@bitrate.net wrote: all of the emotional postulative opining aside, one possibility i have been considering is having postfix delay relay of messages to the content filter for a few minutes, as it seems that when these messages reach us, they're only

Re: dealing with mail not yet listed in network tests

2014-11-13 Thread Matthias Leisi
On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 6:35 AM, John Hardin jhar...@impsec.org wrote: if you're in a business environment you may have an uphill battle with managing expectations, to wit: email is *not* intended to be instant messaging - and may run up against the brick wall of management not being willing