Re: DBL and SBL checks on from address domain

2015-03-25 Thread Axb
On 03/25/2015 11:07 AM, Andy Wright wrote: On Tue, 2015-03-24 at 10:07 +0530, Ramprasad Padmanabhan wrote: How can I check if the domain used in from address is listed in spamhaus DBL or the IP it resolves to is listed in SBL I find all the URIBL_DBL_SPAM rules etc work only for urls in

Re: Spamassassin not catching spam (Follow-up)

2015-03-25 Thread Niamh Holding
Hello Reindl, Tuesday, March 24, 2015, 11:40:39 PM, you wrote: RH you are not allowed to silent discard mail Could you please quote the relevant section of UK law which pertains? -- Best regards, Niamhmailto:ni...@fullbore.co.uk pgpetJrbzBVhg.pgp Description:

Re: Spamassassin not catching spam (Follow-up)

2015-03-25 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 25.03.2015 um 10:45 schrieb Niamh Holding: Hello Reindl, Tuesday, March 24, 2015, 11:40:39 PM, you wrote: RH you are not allowed to silent discard mail Could you please quote the relevant section of UK law which pertains? i don't know the UK laws but in germany it's for sure not allowed

Re: DBL and SBL checks on from address domain

2015-03-25 Thread Andy Wright
On Tue, 2015-03-24 at 10:07 +0530, Ramprasad Padmanabhan wrote: How can I check if the domain used in from address is listed in spamhaus DBL or the IP it resolves to is listed in SBL I find all the URIBL_DBL_SPAM rules etc work only for urls in the body not headers That would be a

Re: Spamassassin not catching spam (Follow-up)

2015-03-25 Thread Niamh Holding
Hello Reindl, Wednesday, March 25, 2015, 9:51:48 AM, you wrote: RH i don't know the UK laws but in germany it's for sure not allowed RH because it's legally classified identical to a postman says meh i don't RH walk to go upstairs today and throw the letter away RH if you pretend to provide

Re: Spamassassin not catching spam (Follow-up)

2015-03-25 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 25.03.2015 um 11:17 schrieb Niamh Holding: Hello Reindl, Wednesday, March 25, 2015, 9:51:48 AM, you wrote: RH i don't know the UK laws but in germany it's for sure not allowed RH because it's legally classified identical to a postman says meh i don't RH walk to go upstairs today and throw

Re: Spamassassin not catching spam (Follow-up)

2015-03-25 Thread RW
On Tue, 24 Mar 2015 14:10:48 -0500 Lorenzo Thurman wrote: I contacted the list a couple of weeks ago about SA not missing a lot of spam I thought it should be catching. There duplicates of message that I had put through sa-learn, that were still getting passed. One of the suggestions offered

Re: Spamassassin not catching spam (Follow-up)

2015-03-25 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 25.03.2015 um 14:56 schrieb Nick Edwards: if i need to take the phone and ask the admin if a mail was discarded or just not delivered at the moment the mailservice is shit get into the real world, and there you go again someone does different than reindl does so they must be shit. jesus

Re: Spamassassin not catching spam (Follow-up)

2015-03-25 Thread Nick Edwards
On 3/25/15, Niamh Holding ni...@fullbore.co.uk wrote: Hello Reindl, Wednesday, March 25, 2015, 9:51:48 AM, you wrote: RH i don't know the UK laws but in germany it's for sure not allowed RH because it's legally classified identical to a postman says meh i don't RH walk to go upstairs

Re: Spamassassin not catching spam (Follow-up)

2015-03-25 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 25.03.2015 um 13:34 schrieb Nick Edwards: It only applies to German based providers, located in Germany, serving Germany. A similar rule applies in Sweden too, and there are exceptions. I can reject who or what I want well, start with understand the difference between reject and discard

Re: Spamassassin not catching spam (Follow-up)

2015-03-25 Thread Nick Edwards
On 3/25/15, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: Am 25.03.2015 um 11:17 schrieb Niamh Holding: Hello Reindl, Wednesday, March 25, 2015, 9:51:48 AM, you wrote: RH i don't know the UK laws but in germany it's for sure not allowed RH because it's legally classified identical to a

Re: Spamassassin not catching spam (Follow-up)

2015-03-25 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 25.03.2015 um 13:39 schrieb Nick Edwards: On 3/25/15, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: that game is over at the moment you got a complaint from the sender proving you MX has responded with 250 OK and the message was never delivered - that is *not* how SMTP is designed to work

Re: Spamassassin not catching spam (Follow-up)

2015-03-25 Thread Nick Edwards
On 3/25/15, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: Am 25.03.2015 um 13:39 schrieb Nick Edwards: On 3/25/15, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: that game is over at the moment you got a complaint from the sender proving you MX has responded with 250 OK and the message was never

Re: Spamassassin not catching spam (Follow-up)

2015-03-25 Thread Nick Edwards
On 3/25/15, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: Am 25.03.2015 um 13:34 schrieb Nick Edwards: It only applies to German based providers, located in Germany, serving Germany. A similar rule applies in Sweden too, and there are exceptions. I can reject who or what I want well, start

Re: Spamassassin not catching spam (Follow-up)

2015-03-25 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 25.03.2015 um 17:23 schrieb Dave Wreski: Hi, RH i don't know the UK laws but in germany it's for sure not allowed RH because it's legally classified identical to a postman says meh i don't RH walk to go upstairs today and throw the letter away RH if you pretend to provide relieable

Re: Spamassassin not catching spam (Follow-up)

2015-03-25 Thread Dave Wreski
Hi, RH i don't know the UK laws but in germany it's for sure not allowed RH because it's legally classified identical to a postman says meh i don't RH walk to go upstairs today and throw the letter away RH if you pretend to provide relieable mailservices it should be logically RH that discard

Re: Spamassassin not catching spam (Follow-up)

2015-03-25 Thread Axb
While a few here think this is god's gift to mankind, it's ONE way to do it... On 03/25/2015 05:23 PM, Dave Wreski wrote: I hoped I could ask for a little more of an explanation. I'm willing to rely on RBLs and postscreen to make outright reject decisions, but I'm not sure I want

Re: Spamassassin not catching spam (Follow-up)

2015-03-25 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 25.03.2015 um 17:59 schrieb Axb: Both methods have their advantages - it always depends on what your user's expect/wish/hope for AND not to be forgotten: How many support tickets could all the rejects trigger? Depending on your user base, it could be more than you wish for that's why you

Re: Spamassassin not catching spam (Follow-up)

2015-03-25 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 25.03.2015 um 20:03 schrieb Niamh Holding: Hello Reindl, Wednesday, March 25, 2015, 5:15:22 PM, you wrote: RH the support calls for silent discard are more and contain more bad RH energy Never been contacted by a spammer as to why their message ended up in /dev/null stop kidding or do

Re: Spamassassin not catching spam (Follow-up)

2015-03-25 Thread Niamh Holding
Hello Reindl, Wednesday, March 25, 2015, 5:15:22 PM, you wrote: RH the support calls for silent discard are more and contain more bad RH energy Never been contacted by a spammer as to why their message ended up in /dev/null -- Best regards, Niamh

Re: Spamassassin not catching spam (Follow-up)

2015-03-25 Thread David F. Skoll
On Wed, 25 Mar 2015 16:08:34 -0600 @lbutlr krem...@kreme.com wrote: There is a difference between ___block___ and ___silently discard___. Blocking is fine, silently discarding is just evil and should be illegal everywhere. Nonsense. Silently discarding is sometimes the only sensible thing

Re: Spamassassin not catching spam (Follow-up)

2015-03-25 Thread @lbutlr
On 25 Mar 2015, at 06:34 , Nick Edwards nick.z.edwa...@gmail.com wrote: It only applies to German based providers, located in Germany, serving Germany. A similar rule applies in Sweden too, and there are exceptions. There is a difference between “block” and “silently discard”. Blocking is