Re: Experimental - use my server for your high fake MX record

2008-05-24 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2008-05-23 11:18:57, schrieb Robin Bowes: Marc Perkel wrote: First to do what I'm doing you have to be using EXIM. If you aren't running exim then you just can't do it. In fact, with all due respect, I can't see how anyone can do spam filtering and not use exim as their MTA. qpsmtpd

Re: Experimental - use my server for your high fake MX record

2008-05-22 Thread mouss
Jo Rhett wrote: On May 21, 2008, at 1:44 PM, mouss wrote: Good. Time for qmail to die ;-) start by updating the RFCs. The RFCs are, and have always been clear on how MX records are supposed to be used. Different people interpret when a delivery attempt succeeds differently.

Re: Experimental - use my server for your high fake MX record

2008-05-22 Thread Robin Bowes
Marc Perkel wrote: Jo Rhett wrote: On May 7, 2008, at 9:17 AM, mouss wrote: what if he comes back later to the same MX, again and again (AFAIK, this is the case with qmail)? mail will be lost. snarky comment Good. Time for qmail to die ;-) /snarky comment Agreed. Qmail should die!

Re: Experimental - use my server for your high fake MX record

2008-05-21 Thread Jo Rhett
On May 7, 2008, at 9:17 AM, mouss wrote: what if he comes back later to the same MX, again and again (AFAIK, this is the case with qmail)? mail will be lost. snarky comment Good. Time for qmail to die ;-) /snarky comment -- Jo Rhett Net Consonance : consonant endings by net philanthropy,

Re: Experimental - use my server for your high fake MX record

2008-05-21 Thread mouss
Jo Rhett wrote: On May 7, 2008, at 9:17 AM, mouss wrote: what if he comes back later to the same MX, again and again (AFAIK, this is the case with qmail)? mail will be lost. snarky comment Good. Time for qmail to die ;-) /snarky comment start by updating the RFCs.

Re: Experimental - use my server for your high fake MX record

2008-05-21 Thread Marc Perkel
mouss wrote: Jo Rhett wrote: On May 7, 2008, at 9:17 AM, mouss wrote: what if he comes back later to the same MX, again and again (AFAIK, this is the case with qmail)? mail will be lost. snarky comment Good. Time for qmail to die ;-) /snarky comment start by updating the RFCs.

Re: Experimental - use my server for your high fake MX record

2008-05-21 Thread mouss
Marc Perkel wrote: mouss wrote: Jo Rhett wrote: On May 7, 2008, at 9:17 AM, mouss wrote: what if he comes back later to the same MX, again and again (AFAIK, this is the case with qmail)? mail will be lost. snarky comment Good. Time for qmail to die ;-) /snarky comment start by

Re: Experimental - use my server for your high fake MX record

2008-05-21 Thread Jo Rhett
On May 21, 2008, at 1:44 PM, mouss wrote: Good. Time for qmail to die ;-) start by updating the RFCs. The RFCs are, and have always been clear on how MX records are supposed to be used. Are you just a nonsense machine? The SA list's personal eliza run through the borker? -- Jo

Re: Experimental - use my server for your high fake MX record

2008-05-21 Thread Marc Perkel
Jo Rhett wrote: On May 7, 2008, at 9:17 AM, mouss wrote: what if he comes back later to the same MX, again and again (AFAIK, this is the case with qmail)? mail will be lost. snarky comment Good. Time for qmail to die ;-) /snarky comment Agreed. Qmail should die!

Re: Experimental - use my server for your high fake MX record

2008-05-08 Thread Justin Mason
Kevin W. Gagel writes: - Original Message - Marc Perkel wrote: Looking for a few volunteers who want to reduce their spambot spam and at the same time help me track spambots for my black list. This is free and mutual benefit. I (junkemailfilter.com) want to be your highest

Re: Experimental - use my server for your high fake MX record

2008-05-08 Thread ram
IOn Wed, 2008-05-07 at 08:50 -0700, Marc Perkel wrote: Looking for a few volunteers who want to reduce their spambot spam and at the same time help me track spambots for my black list. This is free and mutual benefit. I (junkemailfilter.com) want to be your highest numbered fake MX record.

Re: Experimental - use my server for your high fake MX record

2008-05-08 Thread ram
On Thu, 2008-05-08 at 09:33 +0100, Justin Mason wrote: Kevin W. Gagel writes: - Original Message - Marc Perkel wrote: Looking for a few volunteers who want to reduce their spambot spam and at the same time help me track spambots for my black list. This is free and mutual

Re: Experimental - use my server for your high fake MX record

2008-05-08 Thread Marc Perkel
ram wrote: IOn Wed, 2008-05-07 at 08:50 -0700, Marc Perkel wrote: Looking for a few volunteers who want to reduce their spambot spam and at the same time help me track spambots for my black list. This is free and mutual benefit. I (junkemailfilter.com) want to be your highest numbered

Re: Experimental - use my server for your high fake MX record

2008-05-08 Thread John Hardin
On Thu, 8 May 2008, Marc Perkel wrote: To participate all you have to do is set your highest numbered MX to point to: tarbaby.junkemailfilter.com Several people have asked me how I'm doing this and can they have my code to do it themselves. My situation is unique enough that it just won't

Re: Experimental - use my server for your high fake MX record

2008-05-08 Thread Marc Perkel
John Hardin wrote: On Thu, 8 May 2008, Marc Perkel wrote: To participate all you have to do is set your highest numbered MX to point to: tarbaby.junkemailfilter.com Several people have asked me how I'm doing this and can they have my code to do it themselves. My situation is unique

Re: Experimental - use my server for your high fake MX record

2008-05-08 Thread Kevin Parris
Well now, if a spambot actually does start recognizing and avoiding his system, doesn't that mean he wins and the spammer loses? John Hardin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/08/08 12:11 PM On Thu, 8 May 2008, Marc Perkel wrote: To participate all you have to do is set your highest numbered MX to

Re: Experimental - use my server for your high fake MX record

2008-05-08 Thread Marc Perkel
Kevin Parris wrote: Well now, if a spambot actually does start recognizing and avoiding his system, doesn't that mean he wins and the spammer loses? I would say YES! You should make an effort to clean it up so that others *can* install it as a standalone daemon, as I suggested. Why?

RE: Experimental - use my server for your high fake MX record

2008-05-08 Thread Maurice Lucas
: donderdag 8 mei 2008 19:07 To: Kevin Parris Cc: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: Re: Experimental - use my server for your high fake MX record Kevin Parris wrote: Well now, if a spambot actually does start recognizing and avoiding his system, doesn't that mean he wins and the spammer loses

Re: Experimental - use my server for your high fake MX record

2008-05-07 Thread mouss
Marc Perkel wrote: Looking for a few volunteers who want to reduce their spambot spam and at the same time help me track spambots for my black list. This is free and mutual benefit. I (junkemailfilter.com) want to be your highest numbered fake MX record. Here's how you would configure your

Re: Experimental - use my server for your high fake MX record

2008-05-07 Thread DAve
Marc Perkel wrote: Looking for a few volunteers who want to reduce their spambot spam and at the same time help me track spambots for my black list. This is free and mutual benefit. I (junkemailfilter.com) want to be your highest numbered fake MX record. Here's how you would configure your

Re: Experimental - use my server for your high fake MX record

2008-05-07 Thread Kevin W. Gagel
- Original Message - Marc Perkel wrote: Looking for a few volunteers who want to reduce their spambot spam and at the same time help me track spambots for my black list. This is free and mutual benefit. I (junkemailfilter.com) want to be your highest numbered fake MX record. Here's

Re: Experimental - use my server for your high fake MX record

2008-05-07 Thread Randy Ramsdell
DAve wrote: Marc Perkel wrote: Looking for a few volunteers who want to reduce their spambot spam and at the same time help me track spambots for my black list. This is free and mutual benefit. I (junkemailfilter.com) want to be your highest numbered fake MX record. Here's how you would

Re: Experimental - use my server for your high fake MX record

2008-05-07 Thread DAve
Randy Ramsdell wrote: DAve wrote: Marc Perkel wrote: Looking for a few volunteers who want to reduce their spambot spam and at the same time help me track spambots for my black list. This is free and mutual benefit. I (junkemailfilter.com) want to be your highest numbered fake MX record.

Re: Experimental - use my server for your high fake MX record

2008-05-07 Thread Marc Perkel
Randy Ramsdell wrote: DAve wrote: Marc Perkel wrote: Looking for a few volunteers who want to reduce their spambot spam and at the same time help me track spambots for my black list. This is free and mutual benefit. I (junkemailfilter.com) want to be your highest numbered fake MX record.

Re: Experimental - use my server for your high fake MX record

2008-05-07 Thread Randy Ramsdell
Marc Perkel wrote: Randy Ramsdell wrote: DAve wrote: Marc Perkel wrote: Looking for a few volunteers who want to reduce their spambot spam and at the same time help me track spambots for my black list. This is free and mutual benefit. I (junkemailfilter.com) want to be your highest

Re: Experimental - use my server for your high fake MX record

2008-05-07 Thread Aaron Wolfe
On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 5:11 PM, Marc Perkel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Randy Ramsdell wrote: DAve wrote: Marc Perkel wrote: Looking for a few volunteers who want to reduce their spambot spam and at the same time help me track spambots for my black list. This is free

Re: Experimental - use my server for your high fake MX record

2008-05-07 Thread John Hardin
On Wed, 7 May 2008, Aaron Wolfe wrote: If you just want IPs, maybe instead of running an SMTP service that 450s, you would want to use a packet filter like iptables instead. You could get the IPs simply by what packets you saw come in to port 25 and noone would have to worry you were

Re: Experimental - use my server for your high fake MX record

2008-05-07 Thread Aaron Wolfe
On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 5:44 PM, John Hardin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 7 May 2008, Aaron Wolfe wrote: If you just want IPs, maybe instead of running an SMTP service that 450s, you would want to use a packet filter like iptables instead. You could get the IPs simply by what packets

Re: Experimental - use my server for your high fake MX record

2008-05-07 Thread John Hardin
On Wed, 7 May 2008, Aaron Wolfe wrote: On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 5:44 PM, John Hardin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (1) Mark is trying to collect data on how the remote MTA behaves when presented with a 451 tmpfail result. A firewall rule can't do that. From his message: I'm not interested in the

Re: Experimental - use my server for your high fake MX record

2008-05-07 Thread DAve
John Hardin wrote: On Wed, 7 May 2008, Aaron Wolfe wrote: On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 5:44 PM, John Hardin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (1) Mark is trying to collect data on how the remote MTA behaves when presented with a 451 tmpfail result. A firewall rule can't do that. From his message: I'm not