Re: Is it possible to configure 2 SSL connectors on one Tomcat instance?

2011-03-09 Thread Ognjen Blagojevic
Nikko, On 9.3.2011 8:26, Nikko Nikko wrote: Thanks for the answers! I have one IP and wildcard certificate which I signed using local CA. I want to have different trust stores for client certificate authorization. It is a small PoC/demo and I do not have 2 IP-s. The example above is using 2

Re: Automatically extracted Tomcat FAQs

2011-03-09 Thread André Warnier
Stefan Henß wrote: Hi everybody, I'm currently doing research for my bachelor thesis on how to automatically extract FAQs from unstructured data. For this I've built a system automatically performing the following: - Load thousands of conversations from forums and mailing lists (don't mind

Re: Servlet mapping doesn't work after upgrading from Tomcat 5 to 6

2011-03-09 Thread Bob Hall
Dharamshila, --- On Tue, 3/8/11 at 7:35 PM, Dharamshila Khandelwal dharmshil...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for your response Christopher! I have structs.jar in WEB-INF/lib. I even tried putting it in CATALINA_HOME/lib, but it didn't work. I have attached the log files as you had requested. As

Re: [ANN] Apache Tomcat 7.0.10 released

2011-03-09 Thread Mark Thomas
On 09/03/2011 04:08, Michael McCutcheon wrote: On 3/8/2011 7:47 AM, Mark Thomas wrote: The Apache Tomcat team announces the immediate availability of Apache Tomcat 7.0.10 Does this fix the bug where @ServletSecurity annotations are ignored? It was meant to but I've just received and

[SECURITY] Tomcat 7 ignores @ServletSecurity annotations

2011-03-09 Thread Mark Thomas
The fix in Tomcat 7.0.10 was incomplete. @SecurityAnnotations are still ignored when there are no security constraints defined in web.xml (a typical use case). There will be a Tomcat 7.0.11 release shortly to address this. In the meantime, the workaround of specifying at least one security

Re: JSP pages are not loaded. Only HTML source code

2011-03-09 Thread Petr Hracek
I have changed sources so that the actuall state is following: Apache things are in directory /opt/test/htdocs tomcat things are in directory /opt/test/servlet XYtest.xml is now: ?xml version='1.0' encoding='utf-8'? Context docBase=/opt/test/servlet allowLinking=true /Context And jsp are stored

Re: JSP pages are not loaded. Only HTML source code

2011-03-09 Thread André Warnier
Quickly, because I have to get a train.. I think that this : Context docBase=/opt/test/servlet allowLinking=true togethet with this : frame src=/XYtest/servlet/jsp/Viewer/View.jsp is wrong. You have a servlet too many there. In other words, /XYtest/ already points to /opt/test/servlet. If

Connector lifecycle

2011-03-09 Thread Jess Holle
I want to stop all incoming requests at a given point. I am running Tomcat within a larger process and I want to stop accepting new requests -- ideally in such a way that those requests are immediately routed to another Tomcat by mod_jk. In Tomcat 6.0.x, I tried to do this by invoking the

Re: Servlet mapping doesn't work after upgrading from Tomcat 5 to 6

2011-03-09 Thread Dharamshila Khandelwal
*Localhost.log* Mar 8, 2011 10:25:32 PM org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationContext log INFO: ContextListener: contextInitialized() Mar 8, 2011 10:25:32 PM

Re: Connector lifecycle

2011-03-09 Thread Jess Holle
P.S. I certainly want to finish processing requests that are already being processed -- I want a graceful shutdown. On 3/9/2011 8:16 AM, Jess Holle wrote: I want to stop all incoming requests at a given point. I am running Tomcat within a larger process and I want to stop accepting new

console with when running as service

2011-03-09 Thread Zbynek Vavros
Hi, is it possible to setup Tomcat service in a way that it will display console window after service start, same as when started using bat file? I mean window to which standart outputs and errors are redirected Thanks

RE: console with when running as service

2011-03-09 Thread Caldarale, Charles R
From: Zbynek Vavros [mailto:zbynek_vav...@cz.ibm.com] Subject: console with when running as service is it possible to setup Tomcat service in a way that it will display console window after service start, same as when started using bat file? I mean window to which standart outputs and

RE: console with when running as service

2011-03-09 Thread Robert.Jenkin
I have not tried this... but I will give it a try.. You can have the startup.bat registered as a service and redirect output to a text file. This will give you a text file showing the console window output Sincerely, Robert Jenkin Surecomp Services, Inc. 2 Hudson Place, 4th Floor Hoboken, NJ

RE: console with when running as service

2011-03-09 Thread Robert.Jenkin
Also as a possible enhancement to tomcat.. add a service command to the service app to show is output window Sincerely, Robert Jenkin Surecomp Services, Inc. 2 Hudson Place, 4th Floor Hoboken, NJ 07030 Skype: robert.jenkin Office: 201 217 1437 | Direct: 201 716 1219 | Mobile: 908 251 0537

Re: JSP pages are not loaded. Only HTML source code

2011-03-09 Thread Petr Hracek
You mean that in HTML file I should remove servlet? Is this web.xml file correct? ?xml version=1.0 encoding=ISO-8859-1? !DOCTYPE web-app PUBLIC -//Sun Microsystems, Inc.//DTD Web Application 2.2//EN http://java.sun.com/j2ee/dtds/web-app_2_2.dtd; web-app

Re: Connector lifecycle

2011-03-09 Thread Mladen Turk
On 03/09/2011 03:26 PM, Jess Holle wrote: P.S. I certainly want to finish processing requests that are already being processed -- I want a graceful shutdown. It's a two way process. First in mod_jk mark the node as stopped (best by using status worker). Then after all sessions times out in

RE: console with when running as service

2011-03-09 Thread Caldarale, Charles R
From: robert.jen...@surecomp.com [mailto:robert.jen...@surecomp.com] Subject: RE: console with when running as service You can have the startup.bat registered as a service and redirect output to a text file. Somewhat pointless, since that's exactly what the Tomcat service does by default.

RE: console with when running as service

2011-03-09 Thread Robert.Jenkin
There is a window version of tail tailforwin32.sourceforge.net Sincerely, Robert Jenkin Surecomp Services, Inc. 2 Hudson Place, 4th Floor Hoboken, NJ 07030 Skype: robert.jenkin Office: 201 217 1437 | Direct: 201 716 1219 | Mobile: 908 251 0537 http://www.Surecomp.com -Original

RE: console with when running as service

2011-03-09 Thread Mikolaj Rydzewski
On Wed, 9 Mar 2011 08:41:09 -0600, Caldarale, Charles R chuck.caldar...@unisys.com wrote: If you want a console window, run Tomcat from the startup.bat script. If you want just console output look at commons-daemon documentation. There's everything you need to redirect output to any file.

RE: console with when running as service

2011-03-09 Thread Zbynek Vavros
Im sorry to keep asking the same question becase we have services that have console windows! For example Domino server does that by default : - install it as service - start the service - boom, nice console window is displayed (on local and even when running on remote, I can see it using Remote

RE: console with when running as service

2011-03-09 Thread Caldarale, Charles R
From: Zbynek Vavros [mailto:zbynek_vav...@cz.ibm.com] Subject: RE: console with when running as service Im sorry to keep asking the same question becase we have services that have console windows! For example Domino server does that by default : - install it as service - start the

Re: Connector lifecycle

2011-03-09 Thread Jess Holle
So there's no way to do this from the Tomcat side? The process embedding Tomcat knows it's stopping. It does not necessarily even have an ability to connect to the web server(s) that are connecting to it [Apache, IIS, or SJWS, but all via the JK connector]. I therefore want to say this

RE: console with when running as service

2011-03-09 Thread Zbynek Vavros
Exactly ! And it works just fine. Kind Regards / Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Üdvözlettel / S

Re: Connector lifecycle

2011-03-09 Thread Mark Thomas
On 09/03/2011 15:06, Jess Holle wrote: So there's no way to do this from the Tomcat side? The process embedding Tomcat knows it's stopping. It does not necessarily even have an ability to connect to the web server(s) that are connecting to it [Apache, IIS, or SJWS, but all via the JK

RE: console with when running as service

2011-03-09 Thread Mikolaj Rydzewski
On Wed, 9 Mar 2011 09:05:30 -0600, Caldarale, Charles R chuck.caldar...@unisys.com wrote: And what happens when there's no Windows user logged on (the normal condition for a server) - just the services are running? I've seen sa called 'servers' where admin has to login in order to box

Re: Connector lifecycle

2011-03-09 Thread Jess Holle
Well the exception when invoking destroy() directly is: 2011-03-09 09:28:16,238 ERROR [RMI TCP Connection(13)-10.196.0.84] org.apache.tomcat.util.modeler.BaseModelMBean - Exception invoking method destroy org.apache.catalina.LifecycleException: An invalid Lifecycle transition was attempted

Re: JSP pages are not loaded. Only HTML source code

2011-03-09 Thread Mark Thomas
On 09/03/2011 16:02, André Warnier wrote: Now from the train.. When you request a URL such as this from Tomcat : (http://hostname)/ABC/DEF/hij.jsp Tomcat uses the first component of the path (/ABC) as mapping for the web application. It then passes the request to the application ABC.

Re: JSP pages are not loaded. Only HTML source code

2011-03-09 Thread Christopher Schultz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Petr, On 3/9/2011 9:49 AM, Petr Hracek wrote: You mean that in HTML file I should remove servlet? I think you have a lot of things confused, here. I'm going to pick and choose from your previous posts and address a few of the things I think are

RE: JSP pages are not loaded. Only HTML source code

2011-03-09 Thread Caldarale, Charles R
From: Christopher Schultz [mailto:ch...@christopherschultz.net] Subject: Re: JSP pages are not loaded. Only HTML source code XYtest.xml is now: ?xml version='1.0' encoding='utf-8'? Context docBase=/opt/test/servlet allowLinking=true /Context Try removing all the /servlet references

Re: Servlet mapping doesn't work after upgrading from Tomcat 5 to 6

2011-03-09 Thread Dharamshila Khandelwal
Hi All, I was able to make it work. Enable Invoker Servlet Mapping in conf/web.xml. However I had to enable priveleged=true in context.xml. Do you see any flip side to it? I know that it is not the most secured way but this is my application website and runs in the intranet. Thanks all for your

tools.jar dependency with Tomcat 7.0.10?

2011-03-09 Thread Mathew Samuel
Hi, Just trying to use Tomcat 7.0.10. I see the following in the relevant catalina.err file: WARNING: Failed to process JAR [jar:file:/usr/java/jre1.6.0_24/lib/tools.jar!/null] for TLD files java.util.zip.ZipException: error in opening zip file It appears it is looking for this tools.jar but

Re: tools.jar dependency with Tomcat 7.0.10?

2011-03-09 Thread Mark Thomas
On 09/03/2011 17:00, Mathew Samuel wrote: Hi, Just trying to use Tomcat 7.0.10. I see the following in the relevant catalina.err file: WARNING: Failed to process JAR [jar:file:/usr/java/jre1.6.0_24/lib/tools.jar!/null] for TLD files java.util.zip.ZipException: error in opening zip file

Re: Servlet mapping doesn't work after upgrading from Tomcat 5 to 6

2011-03-09 Thread Christopher Schultz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dharamshila, On 3/9/2011 11:58 AM, Dharamshila Khandelwal wrote: I was able to make it work. Enable Invoker Servlet Mapping in conf/web.xml. That would do it, although you should enable it in your webapp's web.xml /only/ and not for the entire

Re: Cleaning up after tomcat jdbc-pool?

2011-03-09 Thread Filip Hanik - Dev Lists
On 03/07/2011 06:46 PM, Nicholas Sushkin wrote: I don't think the default pool has any glaring leaks. However, your db may. I have ran into cases when Oracle would run out of PGA memory, which cleared with tomcat restart. It may help to use connection validation feature of tomcat's new pool to

RE: Servlet mapping doesn't work after upgrading from Tomcat 5 to 6

2011-03-09 Thread Caldarale, Charles R
From: Dharamshila Khandelwal [mailto:dharmshil...@gmail.com] Subject: Re: Servlet mapping doesn't work after upgrading from Tomcat 5 to 6 I was able to make it work. Enable Invoker Servlet Mapping in conf/web.xml. That is a really, really, really bad idea - bordering on criminal. Do it

Re: JSP pages are not loaded. Only HTML source code

2011-03-09 Thread André Warnier
Mark Thomas wrote: On 09/03/2011 16:02, André Warnier wrote: Now from the train.. When you request a URL such as this from Tomcat : (http://hostname)/ABC/DEF/hij.jsp Tomcat uses the first component of the path (/ABC) as mapping for the web application. It then passes the request to the

Migrated from 6.0.29 to 7.0.10, Now I get INFO: TLD skipped. URI: http://struts.apache.org/tags-bean is already defined

2011-03-09 Thread Brian Braun
Hi, I just migrated from Tomcat 6.0.29 to 7.0.10. I have solved several problems regarding the migration, but I don't know what these mean: INFO: Deploying web application archive ROOT.war Mar 9, 2011 9:28:12 AM org.apache.catalina.startup.TaglibUriRule body INFO: TLD skipped. URI:

Re: Migrated from 6.0.29 to 7.0.10, Now I get INFO: TLD skipped. URI: http://struts.apache.org/tags-bean is already defined

2011-03-09 Thread Mark Thomas
On 09/03/2011 18:12, Brian Braun wrote: Hi, I just migrated from Tomcat 6.0.29 to 7.0.10. I have solved several problems regarding the migration, but I don't know what these mean: INFO: Deploying web application archive ROOT.war Mar 9, 2011 9:28:12 AM

Re: Migrated from 6.0.29 to 7.0.10, Now I get INFO: TLD skipped. URI: http://struts.apache.org/tags-bean is already defined

2011-03-09 Thread Brian Braun
Hi Mark, Now that I check my web.xml file, I realized that these TLD files are not even mentioned there! I think I remember they used to be mentioned there, but I upgraded my web.xml file to a newer format and then I got rid of those references. But I'm getting the INFOs in my log yet, since I

Re: Connector lifecycle

2011-03-09 Thread Mark Thomas
On 09/03/2011 15:47, Jess Holle wrote: Well the exception when invoking destroy() directly is: 2011-03-09 09:28:16,238 ERROR [RMI TCP Connection(13)-10.196.0.84] org.apache.tomcat.util.modeler.BaseModelMBean - Exception invoking method destroy org.apache.catalina.LifecycleException: An

jythonet (Jython Servlet)

2011-03-09 Thread Zimon Sparta
Hi All, jythonet is the best bridge between Jython and Java Servlet. http://code.google.com/p/jythonet/ I'm working to add more examples, using different template-languages like: - Cheetah - Django template system - Genshi - Jinja 2 - Mako -- Zimon Sparta

Re: Cleaning up after tomcat jdbc-pool?

2011-03-09 Thread הילה
I'll define it. thanks :] I've implemented 2 changes in production servers - one with the new pool (and still jtds drivers) and one with new pool + switching to jdbc drivers. both has windows authentication enabled. the servers look pretty stable until now, but I'm waiting to see the memory

Re: Connector lifecycle

2011-03-09 Thread Mark Thomas
On 09/03/2011 18:50, Mark Thomas wrote: On 09/03/2011 15:47, Jess Holle wrote: What's more troublesome to me is that with every approach I've tried at least 1 request still gets through. In some cases this request works normally. In other cases the request gets a 200 and no content or a

Re: Connector lifecycle

2011-03-09 Thread Jess Holle
On 3/9/2011 12:50 PM, Mark Thomas wrote: On 09/03/2011 15:47, Jess Holle wrote: When invoking stop() and then destroy() the destroy() succeeds [something I missed in my original post], but an exception is still logged: 2011-03-09 09:29:21,939 ERROR [RMI TCP Connection(21)-10.196.0.84]

Re: Connector lifecycle

2011-03-09 Thread Jess Holle
On 3/9/2011 1:40 PM, Mark Thomas wrote: On 09/03/2011 18:50, Mark Thomas wrote: On 09/03/2011 15:47, Jess Holle wrote: What's more troublesome to me is that with every approach I've tried at least 1 request still gets through. In some cases this request works normally. In other cases the

Re: Migrated from 6.0.29 to 7.0.10, Now I get INFO: TLD skipped. URI: http://struts.apache.org/tags-bean is already defined

2011-03-09 Thread Christopher Schultz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Brian, On 3/9/2011 1:42 PM, Brian Braun wrote: Now that I check my web.xml file, I realized that these TLD files are not even mentioned there! I think I remember they used to be mentioned there, but I upgraded my web.xml file to a newer format and

Re: Cleaning up after tomcat jdbc-pool?

2011-03-09 Thread André Warnier
הילה wrote: I'll define it. thanks :] I've implemented 2 changes in production servers - one with the new pool (and still jtds drivers) and one with new pool + switching to jdbc drivers. both has windows authentication enabled. the servers look pretty stable until now, but I'm waiting to see the

Re: Cleaning up after tomcat jdbc-pool?

2011-03-09 Thread הילה
Sure, when I'll have a final results and see that the leak is no longer exist (prays the lord :P) I'll post a final thread with the solution :] 2011/3/9 André Warnier a...@ice-sa.com הילה wrote: I'll define it. thanks :] I've implemented 2 changes in production servers - one with the new

Re: console with when running as service

2011-03-09 Thread Christopher Schultz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Robert, On 3/9/2011 9:49 AM, robert.jen...@surecomp.com wrote: Also as a possible enhancement to tomcat.. add a service command to the service app to show is output window I don't think the service can do this... I think the service runner has to

RE: tools.jar dependency with Tomcat 7.0.10?

2011-03-09 Thread Mathew Samuel
Hi, As requested here is the full stack trace: WARNING: Failed to process JAR [jar:file:/usr/java/jre1.6.0_24/lib/tools.jar!/null] for TLD files java.util.zip.ZipException: error in opening zip file at java.util.zip.ZipFile.open(Native Method) at

Re: Forcing SSL use

2011-03-09 Thread Christopher Schultz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jeffrey, On 3/7/2011 3:18 PM, Jeffrey Janner wrote: No one so far has mentioned it, but yes, you are seeing behavior as designed. The CONFIDENTIAL setting causes Tomcat to send a redirect to SSL if the request comes in on standard HTTP. You

Re: Migrated from 6.0.29 to 7.0.10, Now I get INFO: TLD skipped. URI: http://struts.apache.org/tags-bean is already defined

2011-03-09 Thread Brian Braun
Hi chris, Actually, I had already unzipped my .war file and inspected every file inside, and arrived to that conclution: The only place where the TLD files are also present is the JARs that correspond to Struts (don't laugh, but I'm still using it) and other components. I guess Tomcat 7 is

Re: Migrated from 6.0.29 to 7.0.10, Now I get INFO: TLD skipped. URI: http://struts.apache.org/tags-bean is already defined

2011-03-09 Thread Mark Thomas
On 09/03/2011 20:42, Brian Braun wrote: Hi chris, Actually, I had already unzipped my .war file and inspected every file inside, and arrived to that conclution: The only place where the TLD files are also present is the JARs that correspond to Struts (don't laugh, but I'm still using it)

Re: Migrated from 6.0.29 to 7.0.10, Now I get INFO: TLD skipped. URI: http://struts.apache.org/tags-bean is already defined

2011-03-09 Thread Brian Braun
That's nice! I that something new in Tomcat 7, or is it already present in 6.0.29? On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 3:45 PM, Mark Thomas ma...@apache.org wrote: On 09/03/2011 20:42, Brian Braun wrote: Hi chris, Actually, I had already unzipped my .war file and inspected every file inside, and

Re: Migrated from 6.0.29 to 7.0.10, Now I get INFO: TLD skipped. URI: http://struts.apache.org/tags-bean is already defined

2011-03-09 Thread Mark Thomas
On 09/03/2011 20:49, Brian Braun wrote: That's nice! I that something new in Tomcat 7, or is it already present in 6.0.29? It should be in 6 although you probably won't get the warnings. The TLD scanning was completely re-worked for 7. Mark

Guide of Tomcat 7 improvements?

2011-03-09 Thread Brian Braun
Hi, Is there an good article somewhere about all the improvements in Tomcat 7? I know about the migration guide (http://tomcat.apache.org/migration.html), the change log and the documentation pages. But I'm looking for some kind of article that explains all the improvements. Something that

Re: Migrated from 6.0.29 to 7.0.10, Now I get INFO: TLD skipped. URI: http://struts.apache.org/tags-bean is already defined

2011-03-09 Thread Brian Braun
OK, thanks for the responses! On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 3:51 PM, Mark Thomas ma...@apache.org wrote: On 09/03/2011 20:49, Brian Braun wrote: That's nice! I that something new in Tomcat 7, or is it already present in 6.0.29? It should be in 6 although you probably won't get the warnings.

Re: Guide of Tomcat 7 improvements?

2011-03-09 Thread Mark Thomas
On 09/03/2011 20:56, Brian Braun wrote: Hi, Is there an good article somewhere about all the improvements in Tomcat 7? I know about the migration guide (http://tomcat.apache.org/migration.html), the change log and the documentation pages. But I'm looking for some kind of article that

Re: Guide of Tomcat 7 improvements?

2011-03-09 Thread Brian Braun
I new I was going to get a great responde form YOU. That is what I was looking for, a nice guide. Thanks! On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 4:07 PM, Mark Thomas ma...@apache.org wrote: On 09/03/2011 20:56, Brian Braun wrote: Hi, Is there an good article somewhere about all the improvements in

Re: Connector lifecycle

2011-03-09 Thread Jess Holle
By the way, I did some more testing and though I would have sworn that destroy() prevented any further requests in Tomcat 6.0.x it also appears to allow at least 1 additional request. On 3/9/2011 1:44 PM, Jess Holle wrote: On 3/9/2011 1:40 PM, Mark Thomas wrote: On 09/03/2011 18:50, Mark

Chunked encoding not terminated with native library

2011-03-09 Thread Chris
Hi, I'm using Tomcat 7.0.8 on Ubuntu 10.10. When using the APR based Tomcat Native Library (libtcnative), responses from Tomcat are being sent with a chunked encoding, but the 0 terminating the chunked response isn't sent until exactly 1 minute later. The response is being written to an

Re: Chunked encoding not terminated with native library

2011-03-09 Thread Mark Thomas
On 09/03/2011 21:49, Chris wrote: Hi, I'm using Tomcat 7.0.8 on Ubuntu 10.10. When using the APR based Tomcat Native Library (libtcnative), responses from Tomcat are being sent with a chunked encoding, but the 0 terminating the chunked response isn't sent until exactly 1 minute later.

Re: [OT] console with when running as service

2011-03-09 Thread Mark Eggers
- Original Message (begin) From: Christopher Schultz ch...@christopherschultz.net To: Tomcat Users List users@tomcat.apache.org Sent: Wed, March 9, 2011 12:34:13 PM Subject: Re: [OT] console with when running as service -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Robert, On 3/9/2011

why does tomcat6 delete xml files from ../tomcat6/conf/Catalina/localhost directory?

2011-03-09 Thread Robinson, Eric
We have several instances of tomcat running on a server and everything seems to run fine. We can stop and start all instances of tomcat independently. HOWEVER, when we reboot there server, we find that several XML files have been deleted from the conf directories for each instance. These files

Re: why does tomcat6 delete xml files from ../tomcat6/conf/Catalina/localhost directory?

2011-03-09 Thread Mark Thomas
On 09/03/2011 23:15, Robinson, Eric wrote: We have several instances of tomcat running on a server and everything seems to run fine. We can stop and start all instances of tomcat independently. HOWEVER, when we reboot there server, we find that several XML files have been deleted from the

RE: why does tomcat6 delete xml files from ../tomcat6/conf/Catalina/localhost directory?

2011-03-09 Thread Robinson, Eric
-Original Message- From: Mark Thomas [mailto:ma...@apache.org] Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 3:42 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: why does tomcat6 delete xml files from ../tomcat6/conf/Catalina/localhost directory? On 09/03/2011 23:15, Robinson, Eric wrote: We have

Re: console with when running as service

2011-03-09 Thread Mladen Turk
On 03/09/2011 03:59 PM, Zbynek Vavros wrote: Im sorry to keep asking the same question becase we have services that have console windows! For example Domino server does that by default : What happens on 2008R2 and UAC enabled? Services run in Session 0, With Vista and up there is a clear