Re: Java databases as alternative to MySQL on OS X Server? (OT)

2005-12-07 Thread Stanley Bradbury
Mieke Banderas wrote: Mike Sabroff suggested: Cloudscape is it faster than Apache Derby in your experience? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The

Re: Java databases as alternative to MySQL on OS X Server? (OT)

2005-12-02 Thread Mieke Banderas
Mike Sabroff suggested: Cloudscape is it faster than Apache Derby in your experience? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Java databases as alternative to MySQL on OS X Server? (OT)

2005-11-29 Thread Oded Arbel
On Tuesday, 29 בNovember 2005 03:21, Mieke Banderas wrote: Oded Arbel said: b) Even assuming they are right, you still want to choose MySQL over JVM space databases, because Java and Java databases are very much thread enabled and create and destroy many threads. But do they do it mainly

Re: Java databases as alternative to MySQL on OS X Server? (OT)

2005-11-29 Thread Oded Arbel
On Tuesday, 29 בNovember 2005 05:12, Mieke Banderas wrote: I wonder how much faster Linux could run on my G3 server hardware. I would have lots of work replacing all the built in services in Mac OS X Server to give me all that control also in Linux, buy maybe I have to. I'm a bit cashstrapped

RE: Java databases as alternative to MySQL on OS X Server? (OT)

2005-11-29 Thread Caldarale, Charles R
From: Oded Arbel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Java databases as alternative to MySQL on OS X Server? (OT) inter-thread communication in java is done through shared memory - shared variables, but the Java memory sharing model doesn't really share memory, Instead it uses thread

Re: Java databases as alternative to MySQL on OS X Server? (OT)

2005-11-29 Thread Oded Arbel
On Tuesday, 29 בNovember 2005 17:28, Caldarale, Charles R wrote: From: Oded Arbel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Java databases as alternative to MySQL on OS X Server? (OT) inter-thread communication in java is done through shared memory - shared variables, but the Java memory

RE: Java databases as alternative to MySQL on OS X Server? (OT)

2005-11-29 Thread Caldarale, Charles R
From: Oded Arbel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Java databases as alternative to MySQL on OS X Server? (OT) Please read up on your Java memory model. What you describe is a nice abstraction that many Java developers have in their mind, but is technically not correct and can't be

Java databases as alternative to MySQL on OS X Server? (OT)

2005-11-28 Thread Mieke Banderas
Given the sad, sad performance findings at: No More Apple Mysteries, Part Two Date: September 1st, 2005 http://www.anandtech.com/mac/showdoc.aspx?i=2520 are there any javabased DB alternatives, that may perform better than MySQL (or PostgreSQL for that matter)? I prefer free, open sourced DBs or

Re: Java databases as alternative to MySQL on OS X Server? (OT)

2005-11-28 Thread Oded Arbel
On Monday, 28 בNovember 2005 19:59, Mieke Banderas wrote: are there any javabased DB alternatives, that may perform better than MySQL (or PostgreSQL for that matter)? I prefer free, open sourced DBs or otherwise with a license that could fit a small business/non profit organisation. HSQLdb

Re: Java databases as alternative to MySQL on OS X Server? (OT)

2005-11-28 Thread Oded Arbel
On Monday, 28 בNovember 2005 19:59, Mieke Banderas wrote: Given the sad, sad performance findings at: No More Apple Mysteries, Part Two Date: September 1st, 2005 http://www.anandtech.com/mac/showdoc.aspx?i=2520 I don't enough of JVMs to know if Javabased DBs are usually better

Re: Java databases as alternative to MySQL on OS X Server? (OT)

2005-11-28 Thread Mieke Banderas
Oded Arbel said: b) Even assuming they are right, you still want to choose MySQL over JVM space databases, because Java and Java databases are very much thread enabled and create and destroy many threads. But do they do it mainly within the OS or within the JVM? Top or PS doesn't show

Re: Java databases as alternative to MySQL on OS X Server? (OT)

2005-11-28 Thread Mieke Banderas
Mieke Banderas said: I'd like to know where/how exactly Java threads are started/killed on Hotspot in OS X. Doesn't java threads mainly intercommunicate within the JVM? Context switches? Is it really a completely dead end that minimizing the OS threading in Mac OS X and keeping threads within

RE: Java databases as alternative to MySQL on OS X Server? (OT)

2005-11-28 Thread Caldarale, Charles R
From: Mieke Banderas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Java databases as alternative to MySQL on OS X Server? (OT) It would seem so, as I now learnt that The HotSpot JVM uses native threads. The only possible escape then would be to use another JVM that doesn't on OS X. But I'm