Re: Tomcat on Gentoo from the horse, no hear say.

2006-12-26 Thread Leon Rosenberg
I never ment to start a flame war, so I will try to give short answer and without deepen the topic. On 12/26/06, Christopher Schultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Leon, Leon Rosenberg wrote: Each day there are at least 2-3 people on the tomcat irc channel claiming having problems with tomcat,

Re: Tomcat on Gentoo from the horse, no hear say.

2006-12-26 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Tue, 2006-12-26 at 18:13 +0100, Leon Rosenberg wrote: Except that you'd have to download the dependant stuff in the appropriate version and not just latest from head or release. Sure so you could be downloading and using a version of a library with bugs that have been fixed. Why live in the

Re: Tomcat on Gentoo from the horse, no hear say.

2006-12-25 Thread Christopher Schultz
Leon, Leon Rosenberg wrote: Each day there are at least 2-3 people on the tomcat irc channel claiming having problems with tomcat, which results in using package from a distro or gcj. Not all from gentoo though :-) For the record (and from a Gentoo user), no Gentoo newbie is going to be

Tomcat on Gentoo from the horse, no hear say.

2006-12-24 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
Ok, not even sure where to start so I will kinda just jump in with this. I am not looking to start a flame war, or long thread. I would prefer this thread not to grow beyond this post. As there are better places, like Gentoo java mailing list, gentoo forums, irc, etc. In the Gentoo Tomcat Guide[1]

Re: Tomcat on Gentoo from the horse, no hear say.

2006-12-24 Thread David Smith
Despite your request to the contrary, this very long winded message is begging for responses. If all you wanted was for people with Gentoo packaged tomcat to contact Gentoo user's list, you should have simply requested that. On to the comments --- 1. Compiling tomcat. Why??? Java by it's

Re: Tomcat on Gentoo from the horse, no hear say.

2006-12-24 Thread Scott Carr
David Smith wrote: Despite your request to the contrary, this very long winded message is begging for responses. If all you wanted was for people with Gentoo packaged tomcat to contact Gentoo user's list, you should have simply requested that. On to the comments --- 1. Compiling tomcat.

Re: Tomcat on Gentoo from the horse, no hear say.

2006-12-24 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
Ask and you shall be answered in detail :) On Sun, 2006-12-24 at 11:20 -0500, David Smith wrote: 1. Compiling tomcat. Why??? Because it's FOSS why not? I might want to use a newer version of things Tomcat is compiled against. There are tons of reasons, thus the link I provided before. Here

Re: Tomcat on Gentoo from the horse, no hear say.

2006-12-24 Thread Leon Rosenberg
On 12/24/06, William L. Thomson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ask and you shall be answered in detail :) On Sun, 2006-12-24 at 11:20 -0500, David Smith wrote: 1. Compiling tomcat. Why??? Because it's FOSS why not? I might want to use a newer version of things Tomcat is compiled against.

Re: Tomcat on Gentoo from the horse, no hear say.

2006-12-24 Thread Edoardo Causarano
Don't flame, remember it's Christmas. Recompiling Java apps isn't strictly necessary but from a maintainer point of view it makes sense: they want to assure that the distribution they provide is as complete and workable as possible. That includes the ability to build, patch, integrate any

Re: Tomcat on Gentoo from the horse, no hear say.

2006-12-24 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Sun, 2006-12-24 at 20:24 +0100, Leon Rosenberg wrote: Sorry, I don't buy it. You don't have to. This is open source and about choice. Given all of Tomcat's dependencies at compile time and runtime. If you want to stick with older versions of stuff. That's totally up to you. But I would say

Re: Tomcat on Gentoo from the horse, no hear say.

2006-12-24 Thread Leon Rosenberg
On 12/24/06, William L. Thomson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 2006-12-24 at 20:24 +0100, Leon Rosenberg wrote: Sorry, I don't buy it. You don't have to. This is open source and about choice. Given all of Tomcat's dependencies at compile time and runtime. If you want to stick with older

Re: Tomcat on Gentoo from the horse, no hear say.

2006-12-24 Thread Martin Gainty
William- Just went to gentoo site and cant read the type (without a magnifying glass)..apparently the font is cranked way down Please advise Martin-- --- This e-mail message (including attachments, if any) is intended for

Re: Tomcat on Gentoo from the horse, no hear say.

2006-12-24 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Sun, 2006-12-24 at 22:03 +0100, Leon Rosenberg wrote: Well yes, but maybe this is for a reason, like it simply doesn't work with another version? Good point. If that is the case, we depend on an older version that does work. And/or we report back to upstream with patches or etc so the

Re: Tomcat on Gentoo from the horse, no hear say.

2006-12-24 Thread Hassan Schroeder
On 12/24/06, William L. Thomson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not to toot our own horn. But we really have allot of revolutionary stuff going on in Gentoo with regard to Java. With regard to Java, there is no implementation in the world like what we have on Gentoo. / ... and so much cool,

Re: Tomcat on Gentoo from the horse, no hear say.

2006-12-24 Thread David Smith
William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: On Sun, 2006-12-24 at 18:32 -0500, Martin Gainty wrote: William- Just went to gentoo site and cant read the type (without a magnifying glass)..apparently the font is cranked way down No control over that sorry. But any browser should have the ability to