Hi Tom
Thanks (sort of) for the post yesterday
I have been in near catatonic shock for two weeks since Pat Naughtin's
'explanation' of the activities of the British construction industry
in the 1950's
Your message helped pull me out of it
You write:
Do you remember pounds, shillings and pence
We've been discussing metrication in Ireland and
speculated on possible follow-up in Northern Ireland as well.
This is off the topic of metrication but very much
related to the situation in Northern Ireland. Anyone living in either the
Republic or the North (or in Great Britain for that
Members of Sinn Fein are also elected to sit in the UK Parliament in
Westminster.
They won't because it means taking the oath to the crown.
The Norhtern Irish nationalist party (SDLP) do sit in the UK parliament
though.
I say that Sinn Fein don't sit in the UK parliament, but that doesn't
stop
Title: Message
I
tried brewing my own (hard) cider.
It
always came out brown and dead (instead of golden and sparkling)
So I
gave up.
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BrentonSent: 03 February 2005 01:51To: U.S. Metric
Like most traditional measures, £sd was a sophisticated system
constructed to enable mathematically adept people (using precious
metal currency) to make quick calculations and estimates in their
heads.
ROTLF. It *required* an unnecessary level of adeptness to make mental
calculations. A decimal
Yoiks - it appears that Irish schools retained the teaching of
'evolved-out' units more than British Schools.
Lest I have given a misleading impression, I remember being taught imperial
units in primary [grade?] school. I entered secondary [high] school in
1970, and that was the year they
Hi Tom:
I reluctantly reply as USMA server feels I want to talk of time/calendars or
that afterall I am an Indian - and an out of 'the stream individual'.
Language changes every 50 to 100 km; and thoughts change every alternate
generation'. I positively do not think what my grandfather thought.
Within IEEE SCC14 and within the IEEE/ASTM Joint Committee for maintaining SI
10, the matter of AWG sizes for electrical wire has come up a number of
times.
I think that I successfully tracked down the source document as being ASTM
B258-02. Work is in progress to confirm that this is indeed
No imperial units have been taught since.
They are in the UK
Any calculations involving a base 10 numbering system are better done
in a decimal system. 16 ounces to a pound makes sense if you work in
hexadecimal.
I can and do work in quarters of a LB - its a handy division that needs
no
I don't know what AWG is, although generally electrical wires in the UK
are described in terms of area of cross section in square millimetres.
David King
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On Thursday 03 Feb 2005 15:34, James R. Frysinger wrote:
Within IEEE SCC14 and within the IEEE/ASTM Joint Committee for maintaining
SI 10, the matter of AWG sizes for electrical wire has come up a number of
times.
I think that I successfully tracked down the source document as being ASTM
On Thursday 03 February 2005 10:30, Stephen Humphreys wrote:
You find money matters easy to do because that is what you are
familiar with.
Similarly you find imperial easier because it is what you are familiar
with.
No.
I find both imperial and metric easy to work with. I would not find
Chris Keenan wrote: Even more bizarrely, such cable can be bought from
European manufacturers in 100 m etc. reels, but the largest reel is '305
m'!! I can find no rational explanation for this.
If we assume a tolerance on large reels of ±5 m, providing a nominal 305 m
should guarantee that nobody
I'll suggest that the 305 m roll is actually a 1000 foot roll!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Bill Potts
Sent: Thursday, 2005 February 03 15:46
To: U.S. Metric Association
Subject: [USMA:32195] Re: AWG wire sizes
Chris Keenan
On Thursday 03 Feb 2005 22:46, Bill Potts wrote:
Chris Keenan wrote: Even more bizarrely, such cable can be bought from
European manufacturers in 100 m etc. reels, but the largest reel is '305
m'!! I can find no rational explanation for this.
If we assume a tolerance on large reels of ±5 m,
I suspect you're right -- or at least that you have the more likely
explanation.
The flaw in my explanation is that, if they really want to make sure a truly
metric 300 m roll contains no less than 300 m (assuming the tolerance I
suggested), they'll measure out a nominal 305 m, but still call it
on 2005-02-04 02.34, James R. Frysinger at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Within IEEE SCC14 and within the IEEE/ASTM Joint Committee for maintaining SI
10, the matter of AWG sizes for electrical wire has come up a number of
times.
I think that I successfully tracked down the source document as
on 2005-02-03 20.08, ewc at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hats off to the Americans for inventing decimal currency.
I guess you must have been dipping into the Homer Simpson 'big book of
facts' for this one?
Dear All,
As I understand it, the first 'modern' suggestion that we should use decimal
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