[USMA:47815] RE: The Oil Leak (Estimate) Increases Again

2010-06-16 Thread Stan Doore
The use to cubic meters for volume is easily visualized. Also, cubic meters are easily converted to larger and smaller volumes in the SI system of measurement. Stan Doore . - Original Message - From: John M. Steele To: U.S. Metric Association Sent: Tuesday, June 15,

[USMA:47816] RE: The Oil Leak (Estimate) Increases Again

2010-06-16 Thread Phil Hall
Maybe the 'D' is being held in reserve. The prefix deca isn't used much and, like centi, deci and hecto, it doesn't fit the pattern of all the other prefixes which are in powers of 1000. These prefixes representing multiples within the rang 0.01 - 100 are not really needed although there is

[USMA:47817] RE: The Chunnel

2010-06-16 Thread Paul Trusten
In particular, I think the clearance signs (the signs showing the heights of bridges or overpasses so large vehicles can judge whether or not they can pass safely underneath) wlll be the bellweather of the process. - Original Message - From: Martin Vlietstra To: U.S. Metric

[USMA:47818] Re: superscripts for SI symbols

2010-06-16 Thread Patrick Moore
Funny, Hooper's superscripted numerals each looked like a quotation mark in his message to me but appear as intended after re-sent by Abbat, below. I run Mac OS X.5.8 on a PowerPC G5. My e-mail is MS Entourage 12.2.4 for Mac. I am no expert. It might have something to do with formatting

[USMA:47819] Re: Off topic: Big email attachments.

2010-06-16 Thread Patrick Moore
I know some people who never glance at their attachments before sending, to see how big they are. The demands on system capacity are multiplied when spamming a mailing list. An alternative is to send a link or URL address in one¹s e-message, directing people to a web address where the video is

[USMA:47820] RE: The Chunnel

2010-06-16 Thread Stephen Humphreys
Did someone die, Martin? From: vliets...@btinternet.com To: usma@colostate.edu Subject: [USMA:47814] RE: The Chunnel Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 06:30:13 +0100 There has been one pressure – the proportion of foreign lorries on our roads has increased considerably and shortly before the

[USMA:47821] RE: The Chunnel

2010-06-16 Thread Stephen Humphreys
Bear in mind that the distance is very short and people use to ferry or hovercraft their cars across. Even now those ferries are the best cost option I believe. Most people I know have used the 'people train' as opposed to the vehicle carrying one (can't remember the names, sorry!)

[USMA:47822] Re: superscripts for SI symbols

2010-06-16 Thread Pierre Abbat
On Wednesday 16 June 2010 09:00:14 Patrick Moore wrote: Funny, Hooper's superscripted numerals each looked like a quotation mark in his message to me but appear as intended after re-sent by Abbat, below. I run Mac OS X.5.8 on a PowerPC G5. My e-mail is MS Entourage 12.2.4 for Mac. I've seen

[USMA:47823] RE: The Oil Leak (Estimate) Increases Again

2010-06-16 Thread Pierre Abbat
On Tuesday 15 June 2010 19:27:34 John M. Steele wrote: Yes, although Pat and some others prefer to visualize it as 10 ML. Whatever works best for you, I guess. :) My apartment building (four apartments) is about 1 ML, so I visualize it that way. But if I were to explain it to someone who

[USMA:47824] Prefixes for Multiples Greater than One

2010-06-16 Thread mechtly
Many years ago, I proposed to the SI Consultive Committee on Units (CCU) that all prefixes for multiples greater than one be in upper case symbols, *allowing* D, H, and K. The Chairman appeared to have supported my proposal, even with some enthusiasm, but the Committee decided to stay with

[USMA:47825] Re: Prefixes for Multiples Greater than One

2010-06-16 Thread James R. Frysinger
A similar recommendation has been made in recent years to the CCU and again it failed to carry. I don't see much hope of this happening any time soon. Jim mech...@illinois.edu wrote: Many years ago, I proposed to the SI Consultive Committee on Units (CCU) that all prefixes for multiples

[USMA:47826] RE: The Chunnel

2010-06-16 Thread Martin Vlietstra
Bridge strikes are a known problem and the number of fatalities that they cause is documented on the Department for Transport website. In the cost benefit section of the consultation, it was estimated that one life would be saved every second year if all height, width and length restriction signs

[USMA:47827] RE: The Chunnel

2010-06-16 Thread Stephen Humphreys
I'm just intrigued in to how many people have died from a bridge strike that showed just imperial measures. If you think about it it's probably difficult to die in such circumstances. The driver is down in the cab and a pedestrian would have to be between the top of the vehicle and the bottom

[USMA:47828] RE: The Oil Leak (Estimate) Increases Again

2010-06-16 Thread Bill Hooper
On Jun 16 , at 8:23 AM, Phil Hall wrote: As for 'k' for kilo maybe that is because of the 'K' for kelvin (context would resolve ambiguity but it wouldn't be very elegent). With hindsight it may have been better to use 'k' for kelvin and 'K' for kilo There would be no ambiguity (or lack of

[USMA:47829] RE: The Oil Leak (Estimate) Increases Again

2010-06-16 Thread Pat Naughtin
On 2010/06/16, at 18:52 , Stan Doore wrote: The use to cubic meters for volume is easily visualized. Also, cubic meters are easily converted to larger and smaller volumes in the SI system of measurement. Stan Doore Dear Stan, I agree with you that cubic metres are easy to

[USMA:47830] Re: superscripts for SI symbols

2010-06-16 Thread Bill Hooper
Thanks to Patrick for his feedback. I'm sorry to note that my square and cube symbols (raised 2 and 3) did not appear correct on Patrick's computer (both appearing as question marks). I think the question marks were not an incorrect translation of the square or the cube symbols. I think the

[USMA:47831] Re: superscripts for SI symbols

2010-06-16 Thread Bill Hooper
On Jun 16 , at 9:00 AM, Patrick Moore wrote: Funny, Hooper's superscripted numerals each looked like a quotation mark in his message to me but appear as intended after re-sent by Abbat, below. That certainly is another strange twist. Bill Hooper 1810 mm tall Fernandina Beach, Florida, USA

[USMA:47832] RE: The Oil Leak (Estimate) Increases Again

2010-06-16 Thread Pat Naughtin
Dear Pierre, Here is another story from 'The Age' in Melbourne that suggests a further doubling to the amount of oil leaked each day to 40 000 barrels (6 000 000 litres or 6 megalitres). See

[USMA:47833] Re: Superscripts for SI symbols

2010-06-16 Thread Bill Hooper
Thank you to all who responded to me request for feedback concerning the square and cube symbols used for square and cubic metres. It was encouraging to find that most people received the message with the characters exactly as sent. Only Patrick had problems with them. I thought these results

[USMA:47834] Re: superscripts for SI symbols

2010-06-16 Thread Pat Naughtin
Dear Bill and All, Underlying these issues with writing and reading superscripts for square metres (m²) and for cubic metres (m³) is the thought that the original software writers (mostly at Apple and at Microsoft) are deeply opposed to the metric system and its use in the world. As an

[USMA:47835] Metrication matters blogspot

2010-06-16 Thread Pat Naughtin
Dear All, I have decided to resurrect my blogspot page at http://metricationmatters.blogspot.com/2009/06/metrication-matters-aims-to-help-people.html This is a steep learning curve for me so I would appreciate any comments and support. Cheers, Pat Naughtin Author of the ebook, Metrication

[USMA:47836] Here it is again

2010-06-16 Thread Pat Naughtin
Dear All, This brief history is cropping up in many places on the web: http://www.yardgames.biz/blog/?p=2023 I can't understand why this is happening – does anyone know? Cheers, Pat Naughtin Author of the ebook, Metrication Leaders Guide, see