[USMA:47837] a turning point?

2010-06-17 Thread John Frewen-Lord
From the BBC website today, 2010 06 17: There was a time when many of Europe's leaders and Eurocrats trembled at the thought of David Cameron as prime minister. They imagined long painful negotiations with an administration determined to roll-back the EU's powers and block mission creep from

[USMA:47838] ISO 80 000

2010-06-17 Thread Pat Naughtin
Dear Jim, Do you know what ISO 80 000 is? Is it a direct replacement for ISO 31? See http://groups.google.com/group/misc.metric-system/browse_thread/thread/538e265104bf9338?hl=en for some discussion of these documents. Cheers, Pat Naughtin Author of the ebook, Metrication Leaders Guide,

[USMA:47839] RE: The Oil Leak (Estimate) Increases Again

2010-06-17 Thread Stan Doore
Thanks Pat for your comments. However, I think the cubic metre is an exception to the terminology rule rather than retain purity of SI terminology. The beauty of the SI is that the cubic metre (1000 L) manages large well-understood volume quanitities very well, and it doesn't imply

[USMA:47840] Re: ISO 80 000

2010-06-17 Thread James R. Frysinger
Dear Pat, Yes, ISO/IEC 8 is the successor to ISO 31. Like its predecessor it comprises over a dozen parts. This new standard is nearly complete now and ISO 31 is close to being completely obsolete. IEEE Standards Coordinating Committee 14 (SCC 14) is developing a parallel standard

[USMA:47841] RE: The Oil Leak (Estimate) Increases Again

2010-06-17 Thread John M. Steele
Pat, I would probably agree that liters are a sensible unit for household water, even if the aggregate use over a billing period requires kiloliters. I get billed quarterly in gallons, but to remain on point, my usage is about 66 m³ (or kL) per quarter. However, I suspect irrigation users are

[USMA:47842] RE: The Oil Leak (Estimate) Increases Again

2010-06-17 Thread Stephen Humphreys
In all honesty (and I don't mean to burst your bubble here) do you think that the alteration of k to K could really happen? Is there a comparable example that's happened like this before that's been successful when originating from a small group of people? In reality people will write 'Km' if

[USMA:47843] RE: a turning point?

2010-06-17 Thread Stephen Humphreys
I think it's foolish to equate metrication with the EU - it's damaged metric before (tying metric with draconian legislation etc).Cameron has made a point - through his election leafleting - that he wants to be seen as a friend of 'imperial'. Similarly when I saw Cameron on the news today he

[USMA:47844] RE: a turning point?

2010-06-17 Thread Martin Vlietstra
I had a little smile when I read in the Times that recently William Hague had to rely on the translator to understand what Nick Clegg was saying. The occasion was a meeting with, amongst others, Angela Merkel and Clegg, the former Eurocrat, was speaking fluent German! _ From:

[USMA:47845] RE: The Oil Leak (Estimate) Increases Again

2010-06-17 Thread Bill Hooper
On Jun 17 , at 1:27 PM, Stephen Humphreys wrote: In all honesty (and I don't mean to burst your bubble here) do you think that the alteration of k to K could really happen? Is there a comparable example that's happened like this before Yes. The lower case L was a problem for many because

[USMA:47847] RE: The Oil Leak (Estimate) Increases Again

2010-06-17 Thread Stephen Humphreys
Fair enough - that's a good example Subject: [USMA:47845] RE: The Oil Leak (Estimate) Increases Again From: billhoope...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 16:10:13 -0400 To: usma@colostate.edu On Jun 17 , at 1:27 PM, Stephen Humphreys wrote:In all honesty (and I don't mean to burst your

[USMA:47848] Re: superscripts for SI symbols

2010-06-17 Thread Michael Payne
I have to agree with Pat, I've looked at the paper size on various computers around the planet, all generally have inches set as standard and the clock to am/pm. Paper however is normally A4. I've wondered if various programs look at the Country selection in Windows before deciding what the

[USMA:47849] Re: Superscripts for SI symbols

2010-06-17 Thread Carleton MacDonald
Just as not all nations use one standard of measurement, not all computer programs use one standard of display. Carleton From: owner-u...@colostate.edu [mailto:owner-u...@colostate.edu] On Behalf Of Bill Hooper Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 21:11 To: U.S. Metric Association Subject:

[USMA:47850] USMA member on Oprah?

2010-06-17 Thread Paul Trusten
USMA member, chemistry teacher, school-wide metricator, and metric cook extraordinaire Sally Mitchell of Manlius, New York, needs votes to catch the concscience of Oprah Winfrey for U.S. metrication. Let's get American livingrooms talking metric! Paul - Original Message - From: