[USMA:54910] Re: Even Obsolescent "Ounces" Can Be Deceptive

2015-11-26 Thread mechtly, eugene a
John, I generally have great confidence in the accuracy of your statements. But, where do you find the statement that “the Feds only require 2.84 oz in a 5 oz can (56.8%)” of tuna? Filling accuracy of canned tuna is regulated by the NCWM, a conference of state, regional, and local regulators,

[USMA:54911] Re: Even Obsolescent "Ounces" Can Be Deceptive

2015-11-26 Thread jmsteele9027
I took it directly from the article, but I was not able to "fact check" it (I hope the reporter did), as I couldn't find the Federal rule; I did try.  Remember that USDA, not FDA, regulates meat.  I was surprised that NOAA regulates fish, but I did find a source to confirm that.  Given that

[USMA:54914] Re: Even Obsolescent "Ounces" Can Be Deceptive

2015-11-26 Thread James
NOAA has promulgated (mirrored) a WHO Food and Agriculture Organization standard here. It's an international standard and not one that NOAA devised. That explains the double-ell before "-ing" and "-ed" and the use of "-our" instead of "-or". I suspect that NOAA's involvement might stem from

[USMA:54912] Re: Even Obsolescent "Ounces" Can Be Deceptive

2015-11-26 Thread mechtly, eugene a
John, All that I can find on the *inspection* of canned tuna is from NIST (NCWM) Handbook 133 (2016 Edition), Paragraph 2.5 on Page 32: (wording adapted to canned tuna) All cans in the sample will be opened and measured. The mass of each can plus the mass of each drained-away liquid is

[USMA:54913] Re: Even Obsolescent "Ounces" Can Be Deceptive

2015-11-26 Thread jmsteele9027
The following are helpful but none directly answer the question. Tuna producers petitioned for "drained weight" years ago, but "nada" happened:http://www.fda.gov/ohrms/dockets/dailys/00/Sep00/090100/c56.pdf NOAA is involved and this touches on drained weight, but as a basis for meeting

[USMA:54915] Re: Even Obsolescent "Ounces" Can Be Deceptive

2015-11-26 Thread mechtly, eugene a
Another question. Since all cans of tuna in the sample are opened and measured, (and no inspector is expected to eat the drained tuna.) Why does the NCWM test procedure not prescribe a direct measurement of the mass of the drained tuna? (ultimately to be discarded) If measured carefully, that