[USMA:36414] Re: Units used in popular science books: buy Canadian

2006-03-30 Thread Bruce Raup
To follow up on my post recommending buying popular science books from Amazon.ca to get a metric edition, I did receive The Weather Makers, by Tim Flannery, and it is indeed fully metric. The only non-metric unit I've seen in it was in a graphic that has two vertical axes -- km on the left and

[USMA:36387] Re: Multiple Units for Energy

2006-03-27 Thread Bruce Raup
This is also simply 68 choose 2 from probability theory: 68! / (68-2)!(2!)This is the same math that gives you the total number of clinks when raising glasses with a group of friends. Cheers,Bruce2006/3/23, Bill Hooper [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 2006 Mar 23 , at 3:54 PM, Pat Naughtin wrote: As a

[USMA:36356] Units used in popular science books: buy Canadian

2006-03-23 Thread Bruce Raup
that isolates us from the rest of the world. That said, with pencil in hand for frequent marginalia, I am enjoying the book. Best regards, Bruce I just thought I'd point out the option of getting books with proper units through Amazon.ca, something that wasn't so obvious to me. Cheers, Bruce Raup

[USMA:15869] RE: Spelling

2001-10-24 Thread Bruce Raup
It would be romanized as "kiromeetoru". Usually, people just say or write "kiro" (in katakana), and it's up to context whether they mean km or kg or km/h. See attached JPEG image. Bruce -- Bruce Raup National Snow and Ice Data Center Phone: 303-492-8814 Un

[USMA:15870] Re: Rules of thumb 14

2001-10-24 Thread Bruce Raup
-- Bruce Raup National Snow and Ice Data Center Phone: 303-492-8814 University of Colorado, 449 UCB Fax:303-492-2468 Boulder, CO 80309-0449[EMAIL PROTECTED]

[USMA:15872] Re: Rules of thumb 14

2001-10-24 Thread Bruce Raup
On 2001-10-24 13:25 -0700, Bill Potts wrote: Bruce: Because you're using iso-2022-jp encoding, some of your characters are coming in as either katakana, hiragana or kanji symbols. Your previous message was worse than this one and had kanji symbols substituted for some of the accented and

[USMA:15717] Re: Units of measure at http://www.dmns.org/imax/facts.html (fwd)

2001-10-19 Thread Bruce Raup
] Subject: Re: Units of measure at http://www.dmns.org/imax/facts.html Hi Bruce, We've gone ahead and made the additions you suggested to our IMAX Theater Facts page. Thanks again for the info! -Tom Fabian Web Site Manager Denver Museum of Nature Science Bruce Raup [EMAIL PROTECTED] - 10/12/01

[USMA:15559] Re: Units of measure at http://www.dmns.org/imax/facts.html (fwd)

2001-10-12 Thread Bruce Raup
to our Web site. thanks for your input! Tom Fabian Web Site Manager Denver Museum of Nature Science Bruce Raup [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/09/01 05:04PM Hello, I was just reading with interest the various pages about the IMAX theater. When I read the IMAX Theater Facts page, however, I was disappointed

[USMA:15564] Re: Units of measure at http://www.dmns.org/imax/facts.html(fwd)

2001-10-12 Thread Bruce Raup
On 2001-10-12 16:50 -0400, kilopascal wrote: 2001-10-12 I hope when they do include metric, they use the original, rational numbers. As you pointed out, 330 m is really 100 m in disguise. But, I'd hate to see, for example something that is 20 mm labelled as 3/4 inch when converted to FFU

[USMA:15498] US auto makers and metric

2001-10-10 Thread Bruce Raup
On 2001-10-10 08:58 -0500, Carter, Baron wrote: The conversion by the auto manufacturers to metric probably rates in the top 10. Can anyone point me to further information about the US auto makers' transition to metric? All I know about it has been gleaned from this list, and I'd like to

[USMA:15449] Re: Me and NH Roadsigns

2001-10-02 Thread Bruce Raup
On 2001-10-02 18:18 -0400, kilopascal wrote: I think the reason the highway department put the distance in tenths of kilometres instead of metres is because they also use tenths of miles when they aren't using quarters and halves. If they used feet and/or yards, they would risk someone

[USMA:15382] exchange with NASA web content provider

2001-09-25 Thread Bruce Raup
] To: Bruce Raup [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: NASA CONFIRMS NORTH POLE OZONE HOLE TRIGGER Thanks! I have sent this to my boss for his recommendation. Cynthia, Thanks for this interesting article. However, I wish you would use, or at least include, SI (metric) units. As I'm sure you know

[USMA:15310] Earth Observatory: What's New Week of 09/19/2001 (fwd)

2001-09-20 Thread Bruce Raup
These are pointers to some of the latest NASA satellite imagery, with commentary that usually includes metric units -- frequently only metric units. I forward this along because I think many of you will find the content interesting, but also because it's a good place to see NASA using metric

[USMA:15067] Re: Tennis US Open

2001-08-29 Thread Bruce Raup
, http://www.usopen.org/bios/profile/ws/wtaw234.html), they say kilos instead of kilograms. It's good the metric info is there, though. Bruce -- Bruce Raup National Snow and Ice Data Center Phone: 303-492-8814 University of Colorado, 449 UCB Fax:303

[USMA:14698] Re: Fw: Tirade on 20-m contours.

2001-07-30 Thread Bruce Raup
. Be honest -- how receptive would you be to 10-m contours? Duncan DT Bath, 861 Kensington Dr., Peterborough ON K9J 6J8 (705)743-4297 -- Bruce Raup National Snow and Ice Data Center Phone: 303-492-8814 University of Colorado, 449 UCB Fax:303

[USMA:14699] Re: Metric Marketing

2001-07-30 Thread Bruce Raup
Sorry for the delayed response. On 2001-07-25 17:47 -0500, Ross DeMeyere wrote in USMA:14612: on 7/25/01 17:19, Bruce Raup at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not true. I know that am/pm (or gozen/gogo) is used in Japan quite frequently, although 24 hour time is used for train schedules, etc

[USMA:14704] Re: Contour lines

2001-07-30 Thread Bruce Raup
On 2001-07-30 13:18 -0500, Michael G. Koerner wrote: Back in the 1970s and 1980s, the USGS made a BUNCH of 'all SI' 1:25000 topos covering Massachusetts and parts of other states in the northeastern USA, as well as numerous 'all SI' 1:24000 maps from elsewhere in the USA. Their contour

[USMA:14608] Re: Calif website

2001-07-25 Thread Bruce Raup
On 2001-07-25 17:53 -0400, Nat Hager III wrote: A couple intersting hits searching the State of California web site: http://www.state.ca.us/state/portal/myca_homepage.jsp The first is CalTrans reaffirming committment to metric, as was posted last fall, but now in a more readible form:

[USMA:14610] Re: Metric Marketing

2001-07-25 Thread Bruce Raup
On 2001-07-25 18:15 -0400, kilopascal wrote: In the rest of the world there is no such thing as am/pm. Not true. I know that am/pm (or gozen/gogo) is used in Japan quite frequently, although 24 hour time is used for train schedules, etc. Bruce

[USMA:14565] metric usage at www.whyfiles.org

2001-07-23 Thread Bruce Raup
Another web-site related exchange. BTW, what happened to the NIST Metric Program Office site, which used to be at http://www.nist.gov/metric ? Bruce -- Bruce Raup National Snow and Ice Data Center Phone: 303-492-8814 University of Colorado, 449 UCB

[USMA:14570] Re: Talk to the Team (fwd)

2001-07-23 Thread Bruce Raup
Apparently, more people need to write these people (without reference to me, of course!). Bruce -- Forwarded message -- Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 15:02:25 -0500 From: David Tenenbaum [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Bruce Raup [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Talk

[USMA:14313] Re: Ireland

2001-07-11 Thread Bruce Raup
On 2001-07-11 14:58 -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In Killarney I saw an ad for land. It measured 37 acres 3 roods 15 perches. The According to the GNU units program, a rood is 1/4 of an acre, which is consistent with acres, but a perch is 5.5 US yards, or about 5.03 m. This doesn't seem to

[USMA:14314] Re: Imperial Knowledge.

2001-07-11 Thread Bruce Raup
On 2001-07-11 01:04 -0400, kilopascal wrote: 2001-07-11 How many would be able to measure off 1 (oh, so familiar) acre? Duncan I couldn't until I found out that the acre is equal to 4000 m² or 200 m x 200 m. Now it is easy since I can relate it to something rational. Still, I

[USMA:14317] Re: Ireland

2001-07-11 Thread Bruce Raup
On 2001-07-11 12:49 -0400, James R. Frysinger wrote: About a year ago or a bit more, we had a discussion on perches. A perch (lineal) is the same as rod (5.5 yd or 16.5 ft). A perch (areal) is a square perch (lineal). The origin of the word, as I recall our conclusion to be, was French

[USMA:13968] Re: Wait a minute....

2001-06-21 Thread Bruce Raup
to be ml/(kg min). They also say Highest Recorded Male (Cross-Country Skier): 94 Bruce -- Bruce Raup National Snow and Ice Data Center Phone: 303-492-8814 University of Colorado, 449 UCB Fax:303-492-2468 Boulder, CO 80309-0449

[USMA:13909] RE: imperial sized vegetable bags - a Cdn place tocomplain

2001-06-19 Thread Bruce Raup
wish, let me know if it comes through with 2.3 cm margins for N.A. standard P4 (21.6 x 28 cm) paper). It did. However, Word describes it as Letter paper, not as P4. Could someone please post the letter in plain text? Thanks, Bruce -- Bruce Raup National Snow and Ice Data Center

[USMA:13921] RE: imperial sized vegetable bags - a Cdn place tocomplain

2001-06-19 Thread Bruce Raup
On 2001-06-19 10:41 -0700, Bill Potts wrote: I wrote, to Bruce Raup: Here it is. However, I'm very surprised that your word processor doesn't have RTF capability. I thought they all did. It then occurred to me that it would be better if Greg had copied the letter into his message

[USMA:13292] Re: The cultural aspect of measurement

2001-06-01 Thread Bruce Raup
On 2001-06-01 09:35 -0700, Ma Be wrote in USMA:13267: The definition listed at www.dictionary.com supports my usage of the word: The totality of socially transmitted behavior patterns... Dear Bruce, please notice that your definition talks about *totality*, not specifics, as it should

[USMA:13149] Re: non-standard charsets (was Non-SI software)

2001-05-30 Thread Bruce Raup
set to ISO-8859-1? I believe the following test contains characters from that set: p² = k A³ 1000 nm = 1 µm Could everyone read those fine? (Should say, p squared = k A cubed and 1000 nm = 1 micrometer (with micrometer symbolic).) Bruce -- Bruce Raup National Snow and Ice Data Center

[USMA:13175] Re: non-standard charsets (was Non-SI software)

2001-05-30 Thread Bruce Raup
On 2001-05-30 11:27 -0400, James R. Frysinger wrote in USMA:13151: Bruce, my browser read your message as ISO-8859-1 so your special symbols came out just fine. The real culprit is that the old default setting for years has been ASCII, which provides only 128 characters, inherited from the

[USMA:13112] RE: Units of measure in your web site (fwd)

2001-05-29 Thread Bruce Raup
On 2001-05-29 15:44 -0400, James R. Frysinger wrote: Bruce, that phrase, Information on the World Wide Web ought to be in World Wide Units, is going to be a classic. May I use it? Absolutely! I'm glad to hear you like the phrase. Bruce

[USMA:13121] Re: Journalists cannot compute (fwd)

2001-05-29 Thread Bruce Raup
I sent this to Joe before I realized his message went to the whole list. Here's my reply. --Bruce -- Forwarded message -- Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 13:45:17 -0600 From: Bruce Raup [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Joseph B. Reid [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [USMA:13102] Re: Journalists

[USMA:12926] metric on NASA web pages

2001-05-23 Thread Bruce Raup
is nicknamed the Mile High City, a consequence of its 1609-meter (5280-foot) elevation above sea level.' That's the only measurement that's translated into non-SI. Given that they were explain the source of the nickname, I'm surprised (pleasantly) that the feet didn't come first. Bruce -- Bruce Raup

[USMA:12932] Re: metric on NASA web pages

2001-05-23 Thread Bruce Raup
On 2001-05-23 13:24 -0400, James R. Frysinger wrote: Interestingly, they don't seem to point out that each of these quantities equal a mile. Apparently they assume the reader is familiar with at least one of these conversions or can deduce that by context. Good point. My familiarity with

[USMA:12935] RE: source for tape measure

2001-05-23 Thread Bruce Raup
On 2001-05-23 12:50 -0600, Jim Elwell wrote: Here is source for a metric ONLY eight meter steel tape measure, typical of the type used in construction: http://www.right-tool.com/8metconautme.html The photo in this page shows two tapes, both labeled in feet. Maybe just the photo is wrong.

[USMA:12911] Re: FW: RE: American Spectator

2001-05-22 Thread Bruce Raup
On 2001-05-22 09:01 -0600, Jim Elwell wrote in USMA:12899: I might point out that you want the same group that caused the Mars Challenger disaster to have responsibility for the way the rest of us measure! I wouldn't call it the same group. No one is calling for Lockheed Martin (the team

[USMA:12887] Re: The cultural aspect of measurement

2001-05-21 Thread Bruce Raup
On 2001-05-18 16:53 -0700, Ma Be wrote: We seem to be operating with slightly different definitions of the words culture and cultural. My definitions are probably affected by my anthropologist mother-in-law. ?? Hmm... I can only work with the rigorous definition of the word as

[USMA:12836] Re: WOMBAT

2001-05-18 Thread Bruce Raup
will eventually change. Anyway... I guess I've already spoken too much... Sorry, guys, but this culture thing always ticks me off... No problem. I think this is an important issue to understand, because human nature is a powerful force. Bruce -- Bruce Raup National Snow and Ice Data Center

[USMA:12839] Re: The cultural aspect of measurements

2001-05-18 Thread Bruce Raup
Marcus and all, Thanks for your reply. We seem to be operating with slightly different definitions of the words culture and cultural. My definitions are probably affected by my anthropologist mother-in-law. When I say culture, I'm talking not so much about the products of a society like the

[USMA:12830] Re: Fwd: RE: Fwd: FW: Fwd: WOMBAT

2001-05-17 Thread Bruce Raup
Hello all, In all this talk about the term WOMBAT, and the desires among different people for more or less derogatory terms for non-metric, I think we should keep in mind that there are different audiences, and that different approaches and terms are appropriate for those different audiences. I

[USMA:12781] Metric only on NASA page

2001-05-15 Thread Bruce Raup
. The image discussed was acquired with the Japanese-built ASTER instrument, and it's possible the caption was written in Japan. But actually I think it was probably written at JPL by a US ASTER Science Team member. Bruce -- Bruce Raup National Snow and Ice Data Center Phone: 303-492

[USMA:12709] Re: Sunday world, 2000-07-17, rip-off and downsizingof cider

2001-05-08 Thread Bruce Raup
On 2001-05-08 11:37 +0200, Han Maenen wrote: Bruce and all. Here the article about ripping off with cider comes in non-Word format. I am also sending it as an rtf format attachment from Word. And no virus! Promise! Thank you very much, Han! Bruce

[USMA:12684] Re: Sunday world, 2000-07-17, rip-off and downsizingof cider

2001-05-07 Thread Bruce Raup
Han, Thanks for your interesting postings; I enjoy your point of view. However, even though many people use it, MS Word is not a standard. Could you send the Cider story in non-proprietary format, such as plain text? Or, if fancy formatting is required, HTML would work. Thanks, Bruce On

[USMA:12488] Re: Website at http://www.dnr.state.mn.us/compass/ (fwd)

2001-04-26 Thread Bruce Raup
On 2001-04-25 22:04 -0400, James R. Frysinger wrote: Good job, Bruce! I especially like the way you approached him with your observations and suggestion. Thanks. Yes, I find it's good to adopt a tone as if I were talking to a good friend, or my dad -- someone I respect -- rather than an

[USMA:12483] Re: Website at http://www.dnr.state.mn.us/compass/ (fwd)

2001-04-25 Thread Bruce Raup
for the kind words. We do aim to please, check out the compass again, I added a second scalebar... Steve Bruce Raup [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/25/01 11:18AM Hello, A recent discussion about web-based map servers on an electronic mailing list pointed me to your web site at http://www.dnr.state.mn.us/compass

[USMA:12367] RE: Inner city kids and metric

2001-04-22 Thread Bruce Raup
On 2001-04-20 23:27 -0700, Darrick Priest wrote: The Onion is one my haunts for satire and I'm fully aware of how to navigate their site. However, after using several combinations of metric, system, and thriving I couldn't find anything that satirized the metric system. I had the same

[USMA:12327] Re: Colorado Open House

2001-04-19 Thread Bruce Raup
On 2001-04-17 18:25 -0500, Gene Mechtly wrote in USMA:12272: Bruce, Please try to visit the open house and report on SI content. Gene. I would love to, but it's not looking like it will fit into my schedule. I don't know if other USMA list subscribers will be able to make it, but I

[USMA:12336] RE: Inner city kids and metric

2001-04-19 Thread Bruce Raup
I think this article was originally published as satire by The Onion (a humorous college "newspaper"), originally available at www.theonion.com/onion3703/metric_system_thriving.html -- at least that's how Google cached it. However, when I try to go to that URL, I get redirected to the main page.

[USMA:12201] [BLUG-ANNOUNCE] Colorado Weights and Measures Open House (fwd)

2001-04-13 Thread Bruce Raup
Sorry for the local nature of this information, but I thought it might be of interest. I've never been to one of these (and may not get to this one), so I don't know how much they push SI. Bruce -- Forwarded message -- Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 16:16:17 -0600 (MDT) From: J. Wayde

[USMA:11957] Re: SI equivalent of the sabine

2001-03-30 Thread Bruce Raup
There is an entry for the "sabin" at http://www.unc.edu/~rowlett/units/index.html, but no SI equivalent is given. The GNU Units program (see, e.g., http://www.appwatch.com/Linux/App/746/data.html) gives: fastice:~$ units 2112 units, 59 prefixes You have: sabin You want: Definition:

[USMA:11619] Re: Fw: [ukma] Metric and Imperial Quiz

2001-03-14 Thread Bruce Raup
if it were made easier by the use of sensible units. I believe that non-SI units foster innumeracy. But I understand that topic was discussed on this list before I joined. Bruce -- Bruce Raup National Snow and Ice Data Center Phone: 303-492-8814 University of Co

[USMA:11520] Re: BWMA distortions. Was: Re: Re: NPT vs. PG

2001-03-09 Thread Bruce Raup
On 2001-03-09 07:58 -0500, James R. Frysinger wrote: OK. I confess. We, too, have some non-metric distance measures that may never go away: the "stone's throw" and the "hop, skip, and a jump". They won't go away in Boulder. We have bus lines called the Hop, Skip, Jump, (and also the

[USMA:11413] Re: Earthquake magnitudes (more)

2001-03-02 Thread Bruce Raup
exponent of 1.44M rather than 1.5M (e.g. http://lasker.princeton.edu/ScienceProjects/curr/eqmag/eqmag.htm). Cheers, Bruce -- Bruce Raup National Snow and Ice Data Center Phone: 303-492-8814 University of Colorado, 449 UCB Fax:

[USMA:11414] Re: Earthquake Magnitudes

2001-03-02 Thread Bruce Raup
don't think it's a precise science. Bruce Raup

[USMA:11231] Re: Language barrier broken!

2001-02-22 Thread Bruce Raup
On 2001-02-22 08:47 -0500, Fardig, Paul S. wrote: One more: 100 grams is about one (small/medium) serving of a food item. So foods that are priced by 100 gram units more or less tell you the cost per serving, and if you know how many servings you want, you can ask for that many hundreds

[USMA:11052] Re:Please add SI units to http://www.climatehotmap.org/ (fwd)

2001-02-16 Thread Bruce Raup
://www.climatehotmap.org/ Author: Bruce Raup [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2/16/01 11:17 AM Dear UCS: I enjoyed viewing your web site at http://www.climatehotmap.org/. It is great to see all these signs of global change from disparate fields collected in one place. It paints quite an alarming picture

[USMA:10932] Re: 700 mL iced tea

2001-02-09 Thread Bruce Raup
On 2001-02-09 13:48 -0700, Hillger, Don wrote: Apparently this is not a new item, but I just came across an empty aluminum can of AriZona iced tea that someone left at one of our shared workstations. The label says literally: 23.5 FL.OZ. (1PINT 7.5 OZ.) 700mL This close-but-not-exact

[USMA:10837] Re: Metric weather

2001-02-04 Thread Bruce Raup
I went through a very similar comparison when I was estimating the size of rain barrel a friend of mine would need for his house. Very easy in metric; very hard in anything else. Bruce On 2001-02-03 09:09 +1000, Peter Price wrote: The advantages of SI units are illustrated in this

[USMA:10831] UK news article with only FFU

2001-02-03 Thread Bruce Raup
no metric in site. Is The Times knows for this sort of thing? I was surprised to see this in a UK publication. Bruce -- Bruce Raup National Snow and Ice Data Center Phone: 303-492-8814 University of Colorado, 449 UCB Fax:303-492-2468 Boulder, CO

[USMA:10750] Re: Fw: A really cool conversion applicaton

2001-01-30 Thread Bruce Raup
king ingredients, so for example, you can convert from "cups sugar" to grams. Just reading through the data file, which is thoroughly commented, is quite educational. Bruce -- Bruce Raup National Snow and Ice Data Center Phone: 303-492-8814 University of Colorado, 449

[USMA:10669] Re: EIA and SI

2001-01-25 Thread Bruce Raup
tly lists the Federal Standard 376B under "REQUIRED ACTIONS: Managers are to use the publications listed below for codes, abbreviations, and acronyms:". Bruce -- Bruce Raup, 303-492-8814, Univ. of Colorado, 449 UCB, Boulder, CO 80309-0449

[USMA:10673] Please add SI units to web page (fwd)

2001-01-25 Thread Bruce Raup
-- Forwarded message -- Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 16:10:06 -0700 From: Bruce Raup [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Please add SI units to web page Hello. I was just enjoying reading http://www.bldrdoc.gov/timefreq/stations/wwv.html about WWV, and noticed

[USMA:10612] Re: metric on US network TV

2001-01-23 Thread Bruce Raup
t you getting upset!" (That's definitely not a verbatim quote, but the "within a hundred meters" part is.) Amazing. -- Bruce Raup, 303-492-8814, Univ. of Colorado, 449 UCB, Boulder, CO 80309-0449

[USMA:10545] RE: Meteorologist likes Fahrenheit

2001-01-18 Thread Bruce Raup
Thanks for your response, Dennis. On 2001-01-17 14:55 -0700, Dennis Brownridge wrote: That old argument about Fahrenheit having "finer resolution" is totally bogus. All the digital weather thermometers I've seen claim a resolution of 0.1 °C or 0.2 °F, which means that not only is it just as

[USMA:10529] Use of non-metric info on metric pages (fwd)

2001-01-17 Thread Bruce Raup
- Ann Arbor, MI 48104 __/ / \/\_ \ http://www.wunderground.com Weather Underground\`\`\ -- Forwarded message -- Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 14:02:39 -0700 From: Bruce Raup [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Su

[USMA:10391] Re: Typing SI

2001-01-10 Thread Bruce Raup
On 2001-01-09 20:55 -0500, Mike wrote: For those who don't use M$ Word, here's a short text description of what is in this Word document. Oh, wait, I forgot. I don't (can't) use M$ Word. Mike Check out the program called "antiword", which converts M$ Word files into plain text or

[USMA:10380] Re: Fwd: RE: 3.5 inch floppy disk

2001-01-09 Thread Bruce Raup
On 2001-01-09 13:45 -0800, M R wrote: Hi Leonardo Whether you say it as "Three and half" (3 words) or "Three point five" (3 words), both are lengthier in inches than "ninety" (1 word) or "nine" (1 word) in mm and cm respectively. So both 90 mm and 9 cm are easy to use than inches.