[USMA:26563] France Bans the Letter E

2003-08-14 Thread Louis JOURDAN
Elaborating on the article of the Watley Review supplied by Nat Hager, I would suggest to those interested to go to http://www.watleyreview.com/2003/072903-1.html What the article does not say is that the writer Georges Perec published in 1969 a 320-page book which does not include the letter

[USMA:26629] Re: M$

2003-08-14 Thread Louis JOURDAN
At 9:44 -0800 14/08/03, David Shatto wrote: This is a great idea! I wonder why all economists haven't widely adopted this (economics is alleged to be a science, you know.) I can just imagine having the following conversation: Dad, can I have a dekadollar to go out with my friends? No, sorry kid,

[USMA:26562] Re: Watley Archives Metric System Increased FoodPortions.htm

2003-08-11 Thread Louis JOURDAN
Title: Re: [USMA:26548] Watley Archives Metric System Increas At 4:56 -0400 11/08/03, Nat Hager III wrote: This is really off-the-wall Metric System to Blame for Increased Food Portions The problem, said White House spokesman Scott McClellan, is that the metric system was invented by the

[USMA:26157] Re: Housing lots

2003-06-20 Thread Louis JOURDAN
At 17:07 +1000 20/06/03, Pat Naughtin wrote: Andro Linklater, in his book 'Measuring America' (Walker 2003), gives a better description of the dual nature of Gunter's Chain as both a decimal and a binary measuring instrument. Linklater also explores some of the possibilities of these dual land

[USMA:25978] Re: my German friend never heard of SI

2003-06-08 Thread Louis JOURDAN
Title: Re: [USMA:25961] my German friend never heard of SI At 13:43 -0500 7/06/03, Paul Trusten, R.Ph. wrote: For just about as long as I've been following this list, I have had a German pen pal in Berlin. Last week,I sent her something I had written, and it was peppered with the acronym SI.

[USMA:25979] Re: Fw: International System of Units (SI), the metric system

2003-06-08 Thread Louis JOURDAN
At 11:24 +1000 8/06/03, Pat Naughtin wrote: Dear Norman, You refer to the adoption, by the USA, of decimal currency (in 1793 I think). Do you know if the USA was the first nation in the world to adopt decimal currency, or was there any other nation who had done so earlier? Yes, it was. France

[USMA:25873] Re: EU and 2009

2003-05-27 Thread Louis JOURDAN
Title: Re: [USMA:25870] EU and 2009 At 18:16 -0500 27/05/03, Paul Trusten, R.Ph. wrote: Hello, friends, I am now returning to the list after a long hiatus. Glad to be back. Glad you are back with us, Paul So as not to take up the list's time, where can I read about the latest on the EU and its

[USMA:25872] Re: Utilities

2003-05-27 Thread Louis JOURDAN
At 13:47 -0700 27/05/03, M R wrote: Louis wrote France: Electricity: kWh Gas: kWh Water: cubic meter That is surprising, households buy water bottles from shops in liters, but the tap water is measured in cubic meters. Do they want to be purists. No, but just imagine the number of bottles to

[USMA:24732] Re: Forum on MO labelling

2003-02-03 Thread Louis JOURDAN
At 8:19 -0800 03/02/3, Ma Be wrote: Would you or anyone else be able to ascertain the reason for their absence? Were they participants in this forum either as invited guests or otherwise? After finding that out, *then* I think we should take **immediate** action on this by alerting the

[USMA:24617] Re: Power

2003-01-24 Thread Louis JOURDAN
At 0:22 -0500 03/01/25, kilopascal wrote: I'm not sure if there is any movement to harmonise all of the different sockets in the EU into one standard socket. It really isn't that important because as noted most small appliances use the two pin plug that fits into most, if not all without an

[USMA:24494] Re: Help Needed

2003-01-18 Thread Louis JOURDAN
Title: Re: [USMA:24491] Help Needed At 8:23 +1100 03/01/19, John Nichols wrote: I am writing a paper that I have about 1 week to finish I need to know where the barrel of oil term comes from and what is 42 US galllons in SI. Not sure that this exerpt of my book (in French) can help you - sorry,

[USMA:24497] Re: Quad

2003-01-18 Thread Louis JOURDAN
Title: Re: [USMA:24493] Quad At 9:12 +1100 03/01/19, John Nichols wrote: 74.5 quads or 12.5 billion barrels of oil equivalent (bbls). Any ideas what a quad is? Again from Rowlett: quad a unit of energy equal to 10^15 (one quadrillion) Btu or about 1.055 petajoules or 293.07 terawatt hours

[USMA:24508] Re: Translation - Automatic

2003-01-18 Thread Louis JOURDAN
At 9:25 +1100 03/01/19, John Nichols wrote: curious unity, not at all belonging to the IF, dominates the industry of the oil: the barrel (barrel, symbol bl or bbl - why two b?). One rediscovers it in the estimation of the reserves - one speaks then in billion barrels or Bbbl (three b!), in the

[USMA:24507] Re: Quad

2003-01-18 Thread Louis JOURDAN
Title: Re: [USMA:24506] Re: Quad At 20:56 -0500 03/01/18, Joseph B. Reid wrote: Louis Jourdan wrote in USMA 24497: Again from Rowlett: quad a unit of energy equal to 10^15 (one quadrillion) Btu or about 1.055 petajoules or 293.07 terawatt hours (TWh). From Cardarelli: 1 quad = 1.05505585262

[USMA:23878] Re: Exam and center

2002-12-09 Thread Louis JOURDAN
Title: Re: [USMA:23872] Re: Exam and center At 16:33 -0500 02/12/9, Joseph B. Reid wrote: I had previously written about the French toise and verge. Could it be that the toise and verge were used to measure short and medium distances and that the aune was used to measure cloth, like the British

[USMA:23806] Re: exact longitude of Dunkirk-Barcelonameridian (early definition of metre)?

2002-12-05 Thread Louis JOURDAN
At 22:31 -0500 02/12/4, Bruce Hebbard wrote: The coordinates cited below are almost certainly ECEF or Earth Centered, Earth Fixed, as described by Peter H. Dana (which is about all I know about this :)... [begin quote] * Earth centered, earth-fixed, X, Y, and Z, Cartesian coordinates (XYZ)

[USMA:23742] Re: exact longit of Dunkirk-Barcelona meridian(early definitn of metre)?

2002-12-03 Thread Louis JOURDAN
At 23:16 + 02/12/2, David Jones wrote: Hi, I'm trying to find out the longitude of the Dunkirk-Barcelona meridian along which measurements were made in 1739-40 (Lacaille and J Cassini) and 1792-98 (Mechain and Delambre) in order to define the metre. Some authors wrongly state or assume that

[USMA:23758] Re: exact longit of Dunkirk-Barcelona meridian (early definitn ofmetre)?

2002-12-03 Thread Louis JOURDAN
At 17:22 + 02/12/3, David Jones wrote: Thanks for this, Louis. May I ask your source for this info? I'm curious as to the reason why they didn't use the Paris Observatory meridian. The above figures would give a (quasi-)meridian some 25-30 miles to the west of it at Paris - a lot. David My

[USMA:23759] Re: CNN.com - Why the metric system is wrong -Dec. 3, 2002.htm

2002-12-03 Thread Louis JOURDAN
At 14:58 -0500 02/12/3, Joseph B. Reid wrote: Denis Guedj in his Le Mètre du Monde, Éditions du Seuil, ISBN 2-02-040718-3, wrote: (I translate) Delambre wrote: 'We see here the Barcelona observations and the three seconds by which they differed from those at Montjouy...to conceal the

[USMA:23761] Re: exact longit of Dunkirk-Barcelona meridian (early definitn of metre)?

2002-12-03 Thread Louis JOURDAN
At 9:00 +1100 02/12/4, Pat Naughtin wrote: Dear Louis, Thanks for the longitude information (below) but could you add the longitude for the BIPM that I believe is also slightly west of Paris. longitude (deg., decimal) 2.2197 E latitude (deg., decimal) 48.8296 N Further information?

[USMA:23785] Re: exact longit of Dunkirk-Barcelona meridian (early definitn ofmetre)?

2002-12-03 Thread Louis JOURDAN
At 0:45 + 02/12/4, David Jones wrote: But the longitude for the Paris meridian, measured from Greenwich, is not 2° 50' E. The correct figure is 2° 20' E. Quite right. I don't why I took this wrong value of 2° 50'. All references give for Paris (observatory) latitude 48° 50' N longitude

[USMA:23784] Re: exact longit of Dunkirk-Barcelona meridian (early definitn of metre)?

2002-12-03 Thread Louis JOURDAN
At 10:51 +1100 02/12/4, Pat Naughtin wrote: Dear Louis, Thanks very much for this information. You remind me of a story I heard of a poet (name forgotten) who found himself in a Master of Business Administration program at Harvard. He said the experience was like wanting a sip of water to

[USMA:23691] RE: CNN, metric products

2002-11-30 Thread Louis JOURDAN
At 12:02 -0500 02/11/30, James R. Frysinger wrote: According to the Amazon web site the book is available for $54.95+S/H. Springer-Verlag is not the world's most inexpensive publisher! The paperback book is reported to have 550 pages in its second edition (1999). This detailed guide is truly

[USMA:23675] RE: CNN, metric products

2002-11-29 Thread Louis JOURDAN
At 19:43 -0500 02/11/29, kilopascal wrote: - Original Message - From: Mike Joy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 2002-11-29 19:30 Subject: Fw: [USMA:23563] RE: CNN, metric products John, Oprah interviewed an author in 2000 on his new book A Practical Guide to

[USMA:23481] RE: Today I got my PhD grade

2002-11-19 Thread Louis JOURDAN
At 14:21 -0800 02/11/18, Bill Potts wrote: Han: Let me be the first to congratulate you. With due respect to you, Bill, I contend I was the first: my (private) message to Han was sent on Monday 17:38 (MET), yours on Monday aswell, but at 23:21 (MET). I had indeed good reasons to do so: first,

[USMA:23482] Re: New and improved One Metre (Metric in Canada) web site

2002-11-19 Thread Louis JOURDAN
At 8:57 +1100 02/11/19, Pat Naughtin wrote: As a side issue, you might like to compare this last average with the apple that is supposed to have fallen on Sir Isaac Newton's head in his garden at Woolsthorpe. Presumably Newton's apple had a weight of one newton, and we can safely assume that the

[USMA:23480] Re: Let's Stick to SI

2002-11-19 Thread Louis JOURDAN
At 18:09 -0500 02/11/18, kilopascal wrote: 2002-11-18 That depends Bill. Maybe SI is the official measurement system in heaven. All those unbelievers in the holy trinity (the holy metre, the holy litre, and the holy kilogram) go straight to the FFU hell at their death, where they spend an

[USMA:23518] Re: Let's Stick to SI

2002-11-19 Thread Louis JOURDAN
At 18:07 -0500 02/11/19, kilopascal wrote: 2002-11-19 Why do you say that? It was meant to be funny. It wasn't meant to be offensive. John, You misunderstood me - probably because of my poor mastering of English language! I wanted to be funny aswell, meaning that you condemned these poor

[USMA:23266] Pack sizes in the EU

2002-11-11 Thread Louis JOURDAN
At 11:56 -0500 02/11/10, kilopascal wrote: I don't really have a problem with 370 g. I would consider it semi-rational. It is a number that ends in a zero, even though, it would be better if it was 350 g or 400 g. What I would oppose are sizes that are obviously hidden FFU. If it were labeled

[USMA:23247] Re: Pack sizes in the EU

2002-11-10 Thread Louis JOURDAN
At 11:56 -0500 02/11/10, kilopascal wrote: 2002-11-10 I don't really have a problem with 370 g. I would consider it semi-rational. It is a number that ends in a zero, even though, it would be better if it was 350 g or 400 g. What I would oppose are sizes that are obviously hidden FFU. If it

[USMA:23179] Re: Pack sizes in the EU

2002-11-08 Thread Louis JOURDAN
At 15:30 -0800 02/11/7, Ma Be wrote: On Thu, 07 Nov 2002 10:27:20 Jim Elwell wrote: At 7 November 2002, 09:04 AM, Ma Be wrote: First of all, there should be a *LEGAL* deterrent developed to PREVENT the use of weird sizes, like 227, 28, 29, 454... (you get the picture), simply because: 1)

[USMA:23155] Re: The Daily Northwestern - The measure ofsuccess

2002-11-07 Thread Louis JOURDAN
Title: Re: [USMA:23136] Re: The Daily Northwestern - The meas At 19:20 -0500 02/11/6, kilopascal wrote: 2002-11-06 These types of statements that may seem harmless to some of us can be picked up by the anti-metric crowd and by the average man and woman on the street who know nothing about the

[USMA:23024] Re: Question about date format

2002-10-31 Thread Louis JOURDAN
At 11:38 + 2002/10/31, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At the risk of contradiction, I assure you that in this anglo-saxon culture (UK), the week starts on Monday. Thanks, Terry. Today I learnt something! Also many thanks to Bill, Joe and Marcus who brought interesting information. I recognize

[USMA:23002] Re: Question about date format

2002-10-30 Thread Louis JOURDAN
At 12:56 -0700 02/10/30, Jim Elwell wrote: Does anyone know what the following date formats mean? The email is from an Intel plant in the Philippines. From: Ochoco, Larizelle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tom Oaks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Out of Office AutoReply: SM# 07221168 (RMA K4491). Date: Thu,

[USMA:23013] Re: Question about date format

2002-10-30 Thread Louis JOURDAN
At 15:50 -0700 02/10/30, Jim Elwell wrote: Mike Joy wrote: Yes, that's right Jim. In Europe, it's written as 45/1 and 1 is always a Monday. Mike Interesting, because Louis' translation to calendar dates presumes that 1 is Sunday, and Louis is from France: Correct, but I am aware that in

[USMA:22565] Re: Metric Book Review

2002-10-09 Thread Louis JOURDAN
At 14:42 -0600 02/10/8, Jim Elwell wrote: An interesting and delightful book review in the New Yorker, by David Owen: http://www.newyorker.com/critics/books/?021014crbo_books1 Has Ken Alder read my book? If so, I will certainly not exert my copyright. On the contrary, I would be delighted to

[USMA:22564] Re: Fw: Re: Fw: Re: metrication

2002-10-09 Thread Louis JOURDAN
At 13:24 -0600 02/10/8, Jim Elwell wrote: I'll quote Thomas Jefferson to close: A wise and frugal government, which shall restrain men from injuring one another, which shall leave them otherwise free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of

[USMA:22322] Re: questions to Canadians

2002-09-24 Thread Louis JOURDAN
At 18:38 +0200 02/09/24, Louis JOURDAN wrote: At 12:20 -0400 02/09/24, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, there's also an ALT button on the right side. This one lets you use additional characters, mostly accents plus that thingy that hangs under the C We call it cédille. Nice, is it not? When hanging

[USMA:22160] Re: Off-SI:New coins-1,5,10,50 cents

2002-09-10 Thread Louis JOURDAN
At 15:01 +0200 02/09/10, Wizard of OS wrote: Your uncle needs a bill redesign too! Wiz, To-morrow is the anniversary of 11 September 2001. Could you be decent to our American friends, please? Louis

[USMA:22080] Re: mole photon

2002-09-05 Thread Louis JOURDAN
Title: Re: [USMA:22072] Re: mole photon At 17:01 + 02/09/4, Barbara and/or Bill Hooper wrote: SI is a system of UNITS not a system of QUANTITIES. Length is a quantity; meter is its SI unit. Refractive index is a quantity; it is unitless (in any system of units). Taken from the book

[USMA:22098] Re: Fwd: RE: Spanish dollar

2002-09-05 Thread Louis JOURDAN
At 22:09 +0200 02/09/5, Wizard of OS wrote: easy explanation, electronic payment isn't welcome in europe, people prefer cash. almost all shops accept EC Card but virtually no one Credit Cards, no shop wants to pay for the fees! This may be true in Germany, but certainly not in France and many

[USMA:22062] Re: Korean Mile (corrected)

2002-09-04 Thread Louis JOURDAN
At 16:40 -0600 02/09/3, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is in Korean mythology a famous measuring unit that denotes a era long period of time. To gauge how long that period is, one is asked to imagine a mountain made of solid granite, exactly one mile high. Once every thousand years an angel flies

[USMA:22063] Re: Dewey Decimal System

2002-09-04 Thread Louis JOURDAN
At 18:54 -0400 02/09/3, James R. Frysinger wrote: Perhaps the very complex Library of Congress (LOC) classification scheme is the antithesis of the Dewey Decimal System. I've never understood the LOC system. Yet, that seems to be the system preferred by large libraries. As far as I can tell,

[USMA:22070] Re: mole photon

2002-09-04 Thread Louis JOURDAN
At 10:48 + 02/09/4, Barbara and/or Bill Hooper wrote: I have always found it difficult to understand how the mole can be considered a unit of anything, photons or otherwise. (I admit that SI does indeed define it as a unit. But that doesn't mean that I understand it.) I sympathize with your

[USMA:22048] Re: Fwd: [A_A] millimeter tolerance

2002-09-03 Thread Louis JOURDAN
At 11:37 +0200 02/09/3, Wizard of OS wrote: hey Louis,, you're french, you should know best. Don't write km/hr! Sorry, I just quoted the paper from the US DOT. Nobody can be perfect... Louis

[USMA:22061] Re: Fwd: [A_A] millimeter tolerance

2002-09-03 Thread Louis JOURDAN
At 11:27 -0400 02/09/3, kilopascal wrote: On the other hand, as an award, all trains except for a sleeper car and AutoZug can be used. Round-trip tickets of 3nd class need 15,000 miles, and 1st class 20,000miles. 3d class? There is a long time that 3d class has disappeared from European

[USMA:22019] Dewey Decimal System

2002-09-02 Thread Louis JOURDAN
Title: Dewey Decimal System I just found the following phrase in a book on universal expositions (World's fairs and the end of progress, Alfred Heller, World's Fair, Inc. 1999): Everything at the Centennial [the Centennial International Exhibition, Philadelphia, 1876] was classified in one of

[USMA:22018] RE: Spanish dollar

2002-09-02 Thread Louis JOURDAN
At 9:14 -0400 02/09/1, kilopascal wrote: Does anyone in Euroland use or say centieuros or just cents? Maybe the Germans still call the centieuro a pfennig, no? What about writing it out? Is it always 0.25 ? or maybe 25 c?? How is it done? Centieuro is not an official term in any of the

[USMA:22028] Re: Fwd: [A_A] millimeter tolerance

2002-09-02 Thread Louis JOURDAN
Title: Re: [USMA:22021] Fwd: [A_A] millimeter tolerance At 17:33 -0400 02/09/2, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Although posted to a railroad list, this might interest the metric list as well. Note: I replied that the inch is EXACTLY 25.4 mm, by definition. Carleton So it appears that the issue was

[USMA:21979] Re: Mechain and the metre

2002-08-29 Thread Louis JOURDAN
At 21:50 -0400 29/08/2002, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The article has a good picture of the cercle repetiteur, which also appears on page 41 of L'Aventure du Metre, but I can not figure out how it works. Somebody, tell me how it works; what is repeated? At 22:52 -0400 29/08/2002, David Owen wrote:

[USMA:21969] Re: La Grande metrication

2002-08-28 Thread Louis JOURDAN
At 14:03 -0400 26/08/2002, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2002 August 26 On July 22 I ordered La Grande Metrication from the Tattered Cover Book Store in Denver, Colorado. I received it on August 24. The total cost was $22.58 which included $5.00 for shipping. It is a

[USMA:21773] Re: cease and desist

2002-08-16 Thread Louis JOURDAN
At 20:06 -0400 16/08/2002, kilopascal wrote: 2002-08-16 I wonder if Esperanto is a metric only language. Does anyone know if Esperanto accommodates FFU? The esperanto language was developed from 1874 on by a young Jewish student, Lejzer Ludwig Zamenhof. In the city of Bialystok where he

[USMA:21693] Re: Proposal For World Calendar

2002-08-12 Thread Louis JOURDAN
At 8:05 -0700 12/08/2002, Ma Be wrote: ? Brij, the current meter can *already* be linked to that! 0.01 g = 1 km! I suspect you meant 0.01 gr. gr used to be the symbol for grade. That is what I was taught at school. A couple of years ago... Louis

[USMA:21666] Re: Unit names; consumers' rights; duodecimalsystem

2002-08-11 Thread Louis JOURDAN
At 20:08 + 02/08/10, Brij Bhushan Vij wrote: Hi Mike: The French failure of the Calendar and Time were not the reasons that it lacked its links with the NUMBER system, but the *failure to link arc-angle with TIME zones* i.e. the hour-angle. If this was done,in that *had the Nautical

[USMA:21581] Re: Speed of Light

2002-08-08 Thread Louis JOURDAN
At 11:00 -0400 8/08/2002, Joseph B. Reid wrote: I think that M.R.Madam has read too much into the CNN report. CNN mentioned that the speed of light is approximately 300 000 km/s, they gave no other figure, nor did the despatch state how fast the speed of light is slowing down. Until we get more

[USMA:21526] Re: Measure the Screen

2002-08-03 Thread Louis JOURDAN
At 19:06 -0500 3/08/2002, Gene Mechtly wrote: Trystan Mordrel or Mordrel Trystan, Is Trystan, or Mordrel, your first name, and what is your gender? I suppose I would already know without asking if I were more fluent in French. Gene Mechtly. In case Trystan does not read his recent messages:

[USMA:21432] Re: Canadian coins

2002-07-30 Thread Louis JOURDAN
in the metrication of their country! Louis -- Louis JOURDAN 12 rue Francois Menez F - 35700 RENNES Tel/fax +33 (0)2 9927 2588 port. 06 8168 8605 http://perso.wanadoo.fr/louis.jourdan/

[USMA:21248] Re: kWh vs. MJ

2002-07-18 Thread Louis JOURDAN
At 8:29 +1000 18/07/2002, Pat Naughtin wrote: By the way, do you know of any movement or gathering that was held in France in about 1304. I've seen reference to such a conference, many years ago, but unfortunately I can no longer find the original source. Pat, Could you be more precise, e.g.

[USMA:21166] RE: New 'metric' car

2002-07-16 Thread Louis JOURDAN
At 11:34 -0400 16/07/2002, Joseph B. Reid wrote: I suspect that the French car manuals use the cheval vapeur or CV. It is defined as 75 metre kilogram-force = 735.50 W = 0,986 32 horsepower. Not really. In fact in most European countries car engines power is given in two units: kW and CV DIN,

[USMA:21165] Re: kWh vs. MJ

2002-07-16 Thread Louis JOURDAN
At 11:31 +1000 16/07/2002, Pat Naughtin wrote: 'The second is the duration of 9 192 631 770 periods of the radiation corresponding to the transition between the two hyperfine levels of the ground state of the caesium 133 atom. This definition refers to a caesium atom in its ground state at a

[USMA:21112] Re: UK road signs

2002-07-15 Thread Louis JOURDAN
At 14:29 +0100 15/07/2002, Tom Wade VMS Systems wrote: The equivalent speed limit in France is 130 km/h and in Germany anything you can do without losing control. Only a few stretches of German highways, of low traffic, have no speed limit. In congested areas, speed is limited at 120 km/h, 100

[USMA:21119] Re: Punctuation

2002-07-15 Thread Louis JOURDAN
At 13:06 -0500 15/07/2002, Gene Mechtly wrote: On Mon, 15 Jul 2002, Bill Potts wrote: Strangely enough, when French sentences end in ? or !, there's a space before the punctuation. It can screw up line wrap no end in a word processor. Bill and Louis, Yes, I notice that Louis includes the

[USMA:21080] Re: GRS or g

2002-07-14 Thread Louis JOURDAN
At 11:51 -0400 14/07/2002, kilopascal wrote: 2002-07-14 Funny, I don't speak French, but I understood everything you wrote here. John - Original Message - From: James R. Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: U.S. Metric Association [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: U.S. Metric Association [EMAIL

[USMA:21024] Re: GRS or g

2002-07-13 Thread Louis JOURDAN
At 22:24 -0400 12/07/2002, James R. Frysinger wrote: Merci, mon ami, pour votre secours! Je chercherai cette femme dans la marche. (Sil vous plait, corrige ma grammaire.) Merci, mon ami, pour votre aide. Je chercherai cette dame au marché. (S'il vous plaît, corrigez ma grammaire) Jim,

[USMA:21042] Re: Americanization

2002-07-13 Thread Louis JOURDAN
Jim, I do respect your opinions, even if I don't share all of them, but there are a few points in your last message that I feel compelled to respond. First, to remain in the topic of this servlist: At 15:02 -0600 12/07/2002, Jim Elwell wrote: ...Europeans are hardly the only people using or

[USMA:20996] GRS or g

2002-07-12 Thread Louis JOURDAN
You remember the information Jim Frysinger circulated a few days ago, about jars and cans from a small company in South of France, having labels where the content was given in GRS, not in g. Jim suggested that somebody from France wrote to the company to correct them. I took up the challenge,

[USMA:20888] RE: President Carter

2002-07-08 Thread Louis JOURDAN
At 13:54 +0200 8/07/2002, Wizard of OS wrote: maybe you should add, the car is a european (german) invention Otto, Diesel and Wankel were germans, what a coincidence Right - but Lenoir, who in 1860 made the first 2-stroke engine with controlled ignition (fed with gas) was a Belgian, Beau de

[USMA:20895] Re: Public transportation

2002-07-08 Thread Louis JOURDAN
At 11:46 -0600 8/07/2002, Vigen, Gary wrote: Arlington, TX has repeatedly rejected public transportation over the last 20 years thru referendum. It has the honor of largest US city without public transportation. The city where I live, Rennes, in west part of France, has the honor of being

[USMA:20881] RE: President Carter

2002-07-07 Thread Louis JOURDAN
At 9:22 -0400 7/07/2002, kilopascal wrote: 2.) All i know about Diesel fuel is it is dirty and in the winter time it gels and the cars won't go. Trucks (lorrys) and other similar vehicles do use Diesel fuel. But, most cars don't. Also, the use of manual shifted transmissions is not as common

[USMA:20811] Re: Help, anyone? Opera question!

2002-07-04 Thread Louis JOURDAN
Title: Re: [USMA:20809] Re: Help, anyone? Opera question! At 13:23 +1000 02/07/4, Pat Naughtin wrote: Another satisfaction comes from the inbuilt operatic gestures that are possible based on this conjecture, and that they could well fit within the constraints of the 16 bars of music. whaoo!

[USMA:20764] flight accident

2002-07-01 Thread Louis JOURDAN
Last night a dramatic accident took place above Switzerland : a Tupolev plane from a Russian company and a Boeing from the DHL company have telescoped while cruising at an altitude of 11 000 m. According to first information, the Russian pilots have misinterpreted instructions from flight

[USMA:20664] EU Commissioner Lamy

2002-06-26 Thread Louis JOURDAN
I have been on line with EU Commissioner Pascal Lamy during his 2-hour chat today. He answered my question (see my message of 2002/06/24) but in general terms, saying he was 100 % for the metric system... No real commitment therefore. I noticed that John Woelflein also put a question, on what

[USMA:20546] Re: Wind Power Returns To America!

2002-06-20 Thread Louis JOURDAN
At 23:43 +0100 02/06/20, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quote: In 1882, his name was given a permanent place in the vocabulary of science and the world at the suggestion of C. W. Siemens, who, in his Presidential Address to the British Association, made the following proposal: The other unit I would

[USMA:20422] Re: Inch Perfect Award for German town!

2002-06-15 Thread Louis JOURDAN
At 20:49 +0200 02/06/15, Han Maenen wrote: I have bought Louis' book La Grande Metrication and I love it! Many thanks, Han! I understand from the publisher that the book has some success. Louis

[USMA:20343] la grande metrication

2002-06-05 Thread Louis JOURDAN
Valerie Many thanks for the copy of the last issue of Metric Today which includes a report on my book. You might be interested to know that yesterday morning I was interviewed for 1 1/2 hour on the book by a French radio program (Europe 1). Lively discussion, with numerous questions put by

[USMA:20319] Re: Fwd: 'Euro-creep' starts slowly

2002-06-01 Thread Louis JOURDAN
At 14:16 -0400 02/06/1, kilopascal wrote: 2002-06-01 The increase of the Euro at the expense of the Dollar will hurt the American economy. That is a fact! So, now do you understand where I am coming from? John OK, you convinced me. I knew that the US was taking benefit of the high volume

[USMA:20258] North korea

2002-05-30 Thread Louis JOURDAN
Who has information about metrication in Korea, both North and South ? Thanks in advance Louis

[USMA:20263] Re: Idaho

2002-05-30 Thread Louis JOURDAN
At 9:05 -0600 02/05/30, Jim Elwell wrote: I think you folks make a mistake by equating liberal = pro-metric and conservative = anti-metric. While there may be some weak correlation at the extreme anti-metric end (meaning that rabid anti-metricationists may generally be nationalistic which may

[USMA:20257] la grande metrication

2002-05-29 Thread Louis JOURDAN
I have been invited to present my book and speak about metric system and SI at a French radio program (Europe 1, Yves Calvi) next Tuesday 4 June from 9 to 10. 30 (European time). Those who understand French and are not too much concerned by the time lag could listen at it at

[USMA:20183] Re: HP wide format printer

2002-05-24 Thread Louis JOURDAN
At 23:18 -0400 02/05/23, James Frysinger wrote: Alas, the crate it was packed in is marked as having a volume of 907 cu dm. Perhaps Chris, Louis, or Leonardo can comment on acceptable labels on packing materials for goods imported into the EU. Why do they accept cu dm instead of dm3? Will that

[USMA:20170] Re: New symbol for the meter on a German web site!

2002-05-23 Thread Louis JOURDAN
At 4:29 -0800 02/05/23, James Wentworth wrote: I just found a new symbol for the meter on a German web site (the text is in English): http://members.tripod.com/e_friend/circuit/antenna.html The author used a ' to denote meters (see the German Quad Antenna and 40 Meter Loop Antenna near the

[USMA:20128] Re: Frequent Flyer Miles -- was new computer and isnow even more off topic

2002-05-18 Thread Louis JOURDAN
At 9:17 -0700 02/05/17, Bill Potts wrote: I'm at a loss to understand Han's refusal, on principle, to avail himself of the benefits of what, after all, is a competitive reward system for customer loyalty. I don't care what units they use. It is, after all, a special form of currency, rather than

[USMA:19896] Re: Elizabeth Taylor Perfume

2002-05-03 Thread Louis JOURDAN
At 20:09 -0400 02/05/3, kilopascal wrote: 2002-05-03 Is the once liquide a legal unit anywhere in the EU that it can be used as a secondary indicator? Just because the EU 80/181 directive allows for secondary indicators up to 2010, does not imply that any old unit may be used. A quote from

[USMA:19774] Metric System under threat

2002-04-29 Thread Louis JOURDAN
Next Sunday France will vote for a new President. One of the candidates is Mr Le Pen, who wants France withdraw from European Union and euro. I fear that Mr Le Pen, if elected, will also withdraw France from the Metric System and SI: as he put all his government program under the patronage

[USMA:19663] Re: La grande metrication

2002-04-26 Thread Louis JOURDAN
At 20:13 -0500 02/04/25, Gene Mechtly wrote: Louis, On April 22, you quoted an exchange rate of 0.89 at your bank. When my payment for a copy of your book was implemented this morning, the rate I paid was 0.9326 (21.45 US$ for 23.00 euros). Has the euro risen in value that much in only three

[USMA:19589] Re: Book by Louis

2002-04-23 Thread Louis JOURDAN
the appropriate identification (name? and number?) of your bank, and an account number for the deposit of my payment. Bank: BNP PARIBAS RENNES - CHAMP JACQUET Account holder: LOUIS JOURDAN Account number: 30004 00241 0025778 03 IBAN: FR76 3000 4002 4100 2577 803 (I have been told

[USMA:19590] Re: Euro in Peril

2002-04-23 Thread Louis JOURDAN
At 12:59 -0700 02/04/22, M R wrote: We talked enough in support of Euro, now the French (Engineers behind Euro) have voted for a right-wing, anti-Euro, racist candidate as the 2nd favorite choice. What makes 17 % of French vote for a person who supports the holocaust. For some time, we should

[USMA:19567] Re: common products

2002-04-22 Thread Louis JOURDAN
At 22:09 -0400 02/04/21, kilopascal wrote: 2002-04-21 One thing that might have helped increase the sale of gasoline/petrol to litre pricing would have been the switch from mechanical to electronic pumps. Not sure: with electronic pumps it is very easy to change anything, be it price per liter

[USMA:19568] Re: Book by Louis

2002-04-22 Thread Louis JOURDAN
At 10:35 -0500 02/04/20, Gene Mechtly wrote: I intend to buy your book *in French* when is is available in Illinois, or when I discover another convenient source (absent posting of credit card information on the Internet). Would you accept my personal check (in $US) for the cost of your book and

[USMA:19530] Re: Anti-metric protestors

2002-04-19 Thread Louis JOURDAN
At 16:48 +0100 02/04/18, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... il avait été finalement emprisonné, puis condamné à six mois de prison avec sursis. Does that translate to English as ...he was finally imprisoned, then given a six months suspended sentence.? If so, then it is not accurate. He was not

[USMA:19509] Re: European Commission

2002-04-18 Thread Louis JOURDAN
At 22:40 -0400 02/04/17, James R. Frysinger wrote: Louis's book (in French) will probably be available here in the U.S. in a month or so. A translation into English may follow later. Louis has posted links to the exerpts on this list and they are very appealing; I am putting an English

[USMA:19370] Re: US coinage and the euro

2002-04-10 Thread Louis JOURDAN
At 9:56 +0200 2002/04/9, Han Maenen wrote: I read more about the survey that claimed that 80% (in reality 77%) wanted to return to the guilder. It appeared that from the small minority of anti-Europeans in The Netherlands a very large proportion responded. There was a question about having a

[USMA:19373] Re: Hey, a new idea!

2002-04-10 Thread Louis JOURDAN
At 16:21 -0700 2002/04/9, Ma Be wrote: Hello, folks, Please allow me to submit a new idea before you. This whole debate I and Jim have been having on SI frameworking got me thinking. How about we focus our efforts on getting countries around the world to yield authority on the issue of

[USMA:19397] Re: Evolution of standards of measurement

2002-04-10 Thread Louis JOURDAN
At 13:13 -0400 2002/04/10, JPB Cliveden wrote: What SHOULD NOT be done, as many of my European colleagues erroneously do, is to preface the area code with a (0) to indicate that 0 is the long distance prefix for national calls within that country. You seem to know a lot about canonical telephone

[USMA:19347] Re: Tidying up SI

2002-04-08 Thread Louis JOURDAN
At 19:03 -0400 2002/04/8, James R. Frysinger wrote: Those issues, which I think are very low in priority, are: 1- a new name for the kilogram, one not employing a prefix and 2- consistency in use of uppercase or lowercase for prefix symbols. (I have a current interest in photometric quantities,

[USMA:19283] Re: Old vs. new coinage. Was: Re: Re: let's go OFFline with the OFF topics messages!

2002-04-06 Thread Louis JOURDAN
At 9:31 +0200 02/04/5, Han Maenen wrote: There is a backlash against the the euro now, but I think it will be temporary. A survey claims that 80% of the people in The Netherlands would like to revert to the guilder. What ? I thought that the Dutch people had a better appreciation of European

[USMA:19135] Re: kWh and time definition

2002-03-29 Thread Louis JOURDAN
Title: Re: [USMA:19124] Re: kWh and time definition At 17:37 + 02/03/28, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- Terry Simpson Human Factors Consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.connected-systems.com Phone: +44 7850 511794 The kilogram is the only base unit that now depends on the preservation of a

[USMA:19134] Re: more metric in newspapers

2002-03-28 Thread Louis JOURDAN
At 10:02 -0700 02/03/28, Jim Elwell wrote: Today's Investor's Business Daily has a chart at the top center of the editorial page showing the energy cost of producing ethanol exceeds the energy in the ethanol.The chart is entirely in metric, with masses and volumes in kilograms and liters. No

[USMA:19092] La Grande Métrication

2002-03-27 Thread Louis JOURDAN
Title: La Grande Métrication May be you are aware that I had undertaken to write a book (in French, sorry...) about the development of the metric system in France and in the world. The book, with the general public as target audience, has just gone out of press under the title la grande

[USMA:19050] RE: Fw: [ISO8601] Good News... Almost.

2002-03-25 Thread Louis JOURDAN
At 15:26 -0800 02/03/24, Bill Potts wrote: Even with the discount, the prices charged by ISO are outrageous. The download version of ISO-8859-1, for example, is 44 Swiss Francs -- which is about $26.50 U.S. The paper version is 56 Swiss Francs ($33.60), plus shipping. It's only a 10-page

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